L1[00:04:46] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonkout

L2[00:04:47] <MichiBot> Crud! S​piderEveryOS! You beat V​aur's previous record of 3h 41m 50s (By 8m 54s)! I hope you're happy!

L3[00:04:47] <MichiBot> S​piderEveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 3.39417703. Position #1

L6[02:44:32] <Izzy> oooh, solving the problem of the "Lore" NBT value for OC: a database should be able to verify it

L7[05:54:22] <Va​ur> %tonk

L8[05:54:23] <MichiBot> Awesome! V​aur! You beat S​piderEveryOS's previous record of 0s (By 5h 49m 35s)! I hope you're happy!

L9[05:54:23] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 5h 49m 35s! Vaur also gained 0.00583 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.33996237 more points to pass F​orecaster!

L10[06:05:38] <Va​ur> %chug

L11[06:05:39] <MichiBot> You drink a liquid dalekanium potion (New!). Gain a research point.

L13[10:23:13] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> The bug we kept hitting on Izzy's server (sks12) was that f…

L14[10:23:13] <ein​Beo> update, I've reproduced something similar again; this time a robot has disappeared after about 20k blocks of exploring. What I am confused about specifically is how the robot block could be replaced with air; the one possibility I see atm is a chunk being re-generated while a robot is in it. Does that seem plausible?

L16[12:01:56] <Corded> > <ein​Beo> update, I've reproduced something similar again; this time …

L17[12:01:56] <Forec​aster> Technically, when a robot moves, the robot block is removed and then placed again in the new position

L18[12:02:16] <Forec​aster> If for some reason the placement doesn't happen the robot would disappear

L19[12:03:01] <Amanda> The issue SKS12 was/is having isn't that the blocks disappear, it's that their inventories do, kinda. The server rack still exists, and has it's blades, the blades just have no components in them anymore

L21[12:16:46] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> The issue SKS12 was/is having isn't that the blocks disappe…

L22[12:16:47] <ein​Beo> yea, that speaks against similarity

L23[12:18:13] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> Technically, when a robot moves, the robot block is removed…

L24[12:18:13] <ein​Beo> I suspected that at first

L25[12:18:42] <ein​Beo> but I'd run several day long tests before where robots moved in circles and it didn't happen

L26[12:19:37] <ein​Beo> what happens to a robot's process when a chunk is unloaded?

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L29[12:58:21] <Corded> > <ein​Beo> update, I've reproduced something similar again; this time …

L30[12:58:21] <Redston​eParkour> can you try having two robots where they don't move at once (one takes a step while the other waits and vice versa)?

L31[12:59:10] <Redston​eParkour> and where both have a chunkloader upgrade?

L32[12:59:33] <Redston​eParkour> alternatively maybe have a drone w/ chunkloader upgrade following the robot?

L33[13:09:07] <Redston​eParkour> oh also (since from the gtnh discord i can see you have logs) did something happen to the server around the time of the last log entry?

L34[13:09:19] <Redston​eParkour> (assuming the logs have timestamps)

L37[13:25:24] <Corded> > <ein​Beo> but I'd run several day long tests before where robots move…

L38[13:25:24] <Forec​aster> It's likely related to chunks loading/unloading I'd guess

L39[13:26:19] <Corded> > <ein​Beo> what happens to a robot's process when a chunk is unloaded?

L40[13:26:19] <Forec​aster> What do you mean by process?

L41[13:41:34] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> oh also (since from the gtnh discord i can see you have log…

L42[13:41:34] <ein​Beo> nothing happened on both the original and the reproduced bug

L43[13:42:00] <ein​Beo> running the same experiment again just to see how common it is, though it happening two times in a row is not promising

L44[13:42:29] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> It's likely related to chunks loading/unloading I'd guess

L45[13:42:29] <ein​Beo> this is mirrored by other responses I've gotten

L46[13:43:42] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> What do you mean by process?

L47[13:43:42] <ein​Beo> whatever is actually executing the robot's code, be that through threads, explicit per-tick cycling through all "ticked" objects or other options

L48[13:43:58] <ein​Beo> I'm not very familiar with the 1.7.10 tile entity system, so perhaps it is related to that

L49[13:44:24] <ein​Beo> in any case, I wonder what happens if a chunk is unloaded during, e.g a robot's move

L51[13:44:58] <ein​Beo> if that is even possible in clean execution; with a round robin through ticked objects and normal chunk loading ticket behaviour that may not be possible

L52[13:57:37] <Corded> > <ein​Beo> whatever is actually executing the robot's code, be that th…

L53[13:57:38] <Forec​aster> The robots computer processes are tied to the tile entity presumably, so when that is unloaded and stops ticking the computer is suspended as well

L54[14:00:32] <Corded> > <ein​Beo> in any case, I wonder what happens if a chunk is unloaded d…

L55[14:00:32] <Forec​aster> If the chunk is unloaded after the block is removed from the old position but before it's been spawned in the new one that would probably cause it to vanish

L56[14:01:19] <Forec​aster> I don't know what the execution order is for that though or how it handles chunks unloading

L59[14:08:44] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!! There's minecraft hedge fund in my soup!

L60[14:08:59] <Amanda> %splash Forecaster with mutable pink potion

L61[14:08:59] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable pink potion that splashes onto Forecaster. Forecaster turns into a toad until they run in a square for 4 minutes.

L62[14:14:39] <Forec​aster> This is the worst...

L63[14:15:12] <Amanda> Yes, toads aren't exactly known for their endurance running

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L68[15:41:03] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonkout

L69[15:41:03] <MichiBot> Dogast! S​piderEveryOS! You beat V​aur's previous record of 5h 49m 35s (By 3h 57m 4s)! I hope you're happy!

L70[15:41:04] <MichiBot> S​piderEveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.009 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 3.41517703. Position #1

L71[16:07:12] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster

L72[16:07:12] <MichiBot> You fling a soft radiation potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster's skin turn the color of avesmingo but with a ruby glow until they recite the litany against fear.

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L78[20:00:21] <ein​Beo> https://paste.pc-logix.com/puzaroyexa

L79[20:00:35] <ein​Beo> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1561831449747922974/image.png

L80[20:00:55] <ein​Beo> now that is strange, isn't it

L81[20:01:27] <ein​Beo> the robot block itself did not get dropped

L82[20:03:03] <ein​Beo> also strangely it happened in a very similar (maybe even exactly the same) spot as the first time

L83[20:32:54] <Amanda> Is this on a server? Maybe permission claims?

L84[20:34:13] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk

L85[20:34:14] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks! S​piderEveryOS! You beat your own previous record of 0s (By 4h 53m 10s)! I hope you're happy!

L86[20:34:14] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 4h 53m 10s! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00489)

L87[21:13:28] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> Is this on a server? Maybe permission claims?

L88[21:13:29] <ein​Beo> it's a singleplayer world actually, it's a chunk like any other so I doubt that's it

L89[21:15:59] <Corded> > <ein​Beo> big update

L90[21:15:59] <Corded> 1. the robot probably dies towards the end of a…

L91[21:15:59] <Re​nno> what exactly was the robot doing?

L92[21:16:12] <ein​Beo> walking forward

L93[21:16:32] <ein​Beo> this is the 3rd time I've reproduced this bug

L94[21:16:40] <ein​Beo> at some random points the robot just seems to disappear

L95[21:17:07] <Re​nno> most likely a serialization error that is improperly handled

L96[21:17:48] <Re​nno> happened on my server some years ago, my farming robot somehow did a mitosis https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1561850879047499848/2025-12-20_04.36.00.png

L97[21:18:27] <Corded> > <ein​Beo> this is the 3rd time I've reproduced this bug

L98[21:18:27] <Re​nno> is it always the same part of the world or?

L99[21:21:35] <Re​nno> meanwhile https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1561851831439589517/javaw_z0ge4UdS9Y.mp4

L100[21:25:07] <Corded> > <Re​nno> is it always the same part of the world or?

L101[21:25:08] <ein​Beo> I'm not sure if there are any patterns. I've observed at least two distinct spots across three attempts but I'm unsure if the third attempt's spot was equal to the first