L1[00:00:24] 
<Ocawesome101> No need to go anywhere then
:p
<Ocawesome101> No need to go anywhere then
:pL2[00:00:26] <Izzy> at this stage I would
just die
L3[00:00:36] <Ocawesome101> Lmao
<Ocawesome101> LmaoL4[00:01:19] <Izzy> it's 1/4 my weight
without any drives in it
L5[00:03:29] <Izzy> being able to lift my
own weight would be good though. dunno if it's possible but
like. :3
L6[00:05:15] <Ocawesome101> I can lift slightly over
2/3 my weight
<Ocawesome101> I can lift slightly over
2/3 my weightL7[00:05:25] <Ocawesome101> I am also only barely not
underweight
<Ocawesome101> I am also only barely not
underweightL8[00:05:44] <Izzy> I have put a lot of work
into being exactly the middle of the BMI scale
L9[00:06:30] <Izzy> I am no longer making my
doctor say "you should probably eat more" :bless:
L10[00:08:53] *
Amanda flops atop Izzy
L11[00:08:58] * Izzy
patpatpats
L12[00:09:10] *
Amanda purrs softly
L13[00:17:46] <Amanda> %choose halucinate
or irrradiate
L14[00:17:46] <MichiBot> I sense some
"irrradiate" in your future!
L15[00:57:11] <Ocawesome101> anyone know of a streaming
zlib/inflate implementation in pure lua?
<Ocawesome101> anyone know of a streaming
zlib/inflate implementation in pure lua?L16[00:59:42] <Izzy> oh, on a semi-related
topic
L17[00:59:49] <Izzy> I want to replace and
portable-ise libdownload
L18[01:00:11] <Izzy> (which is the PsychOS
wrapper for HTTP(S), fget, etc)
L19[01:00:19] <Izzy> thoughts on the
API?
L20[01:00:42] <Amanda> Izzy: did you notice
me talking about how the svc-download I made (same idea, for
kittens) simply only works with rica?
L21[01:00:51] <Izzy> I did x3
L22[01:01:00] <Amanda> I really need to
investigate that
L23[01:01:11] <Izzy> does it work on
1.12?
L24[01:01:18] <Amanda> Nope!
L25[01:01:22] <Izzy> huh!
L26[01:01:44] <Amanda> I think it may have
at some point of the coding process, but then I broke it
L27[01:01:57] <Amanda> Because I coded and
tested it on sks12
L28[01:01:59] <Izzy> but yeah I'm
thinking either a callback when there's data available, or an
event like the internet API
L29[01:02:20] <Izzy> maybe both?
L30[01:02:31] <Izzy> default callback that
queues an event
L31[01:02:49] <Amanda> What is a call back
but an event handled with event.listen?
L32[01:03:22] <Ocawesome101> Izzy: a way to deal with
sockets similarly might be nice. the api looks okay though.
<Ocawesome101> Izzy: a way to deal with
sockets similarly might be nice. the api looks okay though.L33[01:03:26] <Izzy> You can't pass
complex data structures through the event queue
L34[01:03:51] <Izzy> sockets are harder
because there isn't really a socket URI spec
L35[01:04:00] <Izzy> I guess there could
be
L36[01:04:14] <Izzy> minitel:hostname:port
or tcp:hostname:port
L37[01:04:53] <Ocawesome101> i wanna say i've seen
`tcp://hostname:port` used, but i might be making that up
<Ocawesome101> i wanna say i've seen
`tcp://hostname:port` used, but i might be making that upL38[01:05:34] <Izzy> inet and inet6 appears
to be the standard
L39[01:05:51] <Izzy> Or... not
standard?
L40[01:05:51] <Ocawesome101> aha
<Ocawesome101> ahaL41[01:05:55] <Ocawesome101> ...
<Ocawesome101> ...L42[01:06:16] <Izzy> https://raphael.medaer.me/2020/08/20/define-socket-w-uris.html
L43[01:06:24] <Izzy> This appears to be
some guy
L44[01:07:01] <Izzy> I have seen
ws://
L45[01:07:22] <Ocawesome101> same
<Ocawesome101> sameL46[01:07:41] <Izzy> wss rather
L47[01:07:51] <Ocawesome101> both are valid
<Ocawesome101> both are validL48[01:08:10] ⇨
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L49[01:08:14] <walksanator> there we
go
L50[01:08:18] <walksanator> now I am in the
right channel
L51[01:08:26] <walksanator> I found the
working 1.21.1 OC build
L52[01:08:30] <Izzy> In unix-like systems
you specify a socket class but I don't like that
L53[01:08:46] <walksanator> still no clue
how the KVM works (or mabey I just suck at sharing the floppy
between the servers
L54[01:09:28] <walksanator> the KVM is
entirely unique to this version...
L55[01:10:15] <Izzy> Is the KVM the remote
terminal server renamed?
L56[01:11:01] <Ocawesome101> remote terminal server but
can serve three servers
<Ocawesome101> remote terminal server but
can serve three serversL57[01:11:10] <Hawk777> ws:// and wss://
are WebSocket URIs, not regular sockets.
L58[01:11:12] <Ocawesome101> a kvm switch
<Ocawesome101> a kvm switchL59[01:11:22] <walksanator> oh wait
<walksanator> oh waitL60[01:11:24] <Izzy> Ocawesome101: okay so
if you have a host, port, or auth component, you have the :// but
otherwise it's just :
L61[01:11:26] <walksanator> #oc-rebooted
<walksanator> #oc-rebootedL62[01:11:41] <walksanator> darn not a IRC channel
😔
<walksanator> darn not a IRC channel
😔L63[01:11:44] <Izzy> So it'd be
unix:/path but minitel://host:port
L64[01:12:08] <Hawk777> (WebSockets are
*not* sockets!)
L65[01:12:23] <Ocawesome101> ahaaa
<Ocawesome101> ahaaaL66[01:12:31] <Izzy> I know Hawk777
it's related but not exactly the same
L67[01:12:43] <Izzy> It does mean
websockets would fit in our scheme though
L68[01:12:55] <Hawk777> Sure… I just think
it would be *really* confusing if someone used ws:// as a way to
set the URL for a regular TCP socket.
L69[01:13:07] <Hawk777> So… in case someone
was thinking of literally just using that.
L70[01:13:15] <Amanda> I've definitely
seen tcp:// -- especially around go stuff, I believe likely
influenced from Rob's plan9 days
L71[01:13:15] <Izzy> not me at least dw
:p
L72[01:13:40] <Izzy> tcp:// is probably the
more OC-applicable choice
L73[01:13:54] <Amanda> Fun fact, until it
became self-hosted, the go compiler was aododied plan9 c
compuler
L74[01:14:09] <Izzy> I can't really
ask for the IPv4 or IPv6 connection to a domain in OC
L75[01:14:09] <Amanda> Wow, I really
bungled those words
L76[01:14:27] <Amanda> There's tcp and
tcp4 and tcp6
L77[01:14:50] <Amanda> The former uses
whatever's available, 4/6 should be obvious
L78[01:15:24] <Amanda> %choose one more
episode or be responsible
L79[01:15:25] <MichiBot> I received a
message from future you, said to go with "be
responsible".
L80[01:15:26] <Izzy> Okay so probably just
implement tcp:// for OC
L81[01:15:39] <walksanator> I thought we
allready had tcp://?
L82[01:16:10] <Amanda> Izzy is talking
about for a library she's going to write abstracting download
sources
L83[01:16:13] <Izzy> Library design to wrap
different socket types, not ground-up implementation :p
L84[01:16:25] <Izzy> Hate it when my
implementation is mince
L85[01:17:02] *
Amanda leaves a heavily traumatized mouse in Izzy's shoe,
curls up around Elfi and starts to meow bedtime
stories
L86[01:17:19] <Izzy> Anyway. Theoretical
protocol-pluggable download library. This something people other
than me would use?
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L88[01:18:54] <Amanda> I might if I wrote
something for openos
L89[01:19:06] <Izzy> Would mean you could
use the same library to download over HTTP, fget, other
protocols
L90[01:19:16] <Amanda> But I've mostly
been doing stuff in kos
L91[01:19:48] <Izzy> I intend to make
PsychOS more practical for server use on v13
L92[01:19:53] <Amanda> Anyways, it's
bedtime, night night girls
L93[01:20:00] <Izzy> So I'm aiming to
write semi-portable software
L94[01:20:04] <Izzy> o7 sleeb well!
L95[01:22:51] <Ocawesome101> Izzy: i would bundle such a
library / implement a compatible interface for ulos3
<Ocawesome101> Izzy: i would bundle such a
library / implement a compatible interface for ulos3L96[01:23:06] <Izzy> lovely
L97[01:24:15] <Izzy> My usecase was
originally for the PsychOS package manager not caring about HTTP vs
fget and I've since implemented a package manager for OpenOS
that's similar
L98[01:28:11] <Ocawesome101> i also need to get my act
together and like
<Ocawesome101> i also need to get my act
together and likeL99[01:28:24] <Ocawesome101> write useful software
that's not just a string of operating systems
<Ocawesome101> write useful software
that's not just a string of operating systemsL100[01:30:14] <Izzy> x3
L101[01:30:22] <Izzy> Play SKS v13 when it
starts
L102[01:30:28] <Izzy> Lots of problems to
solve
L103[01:31:13] <Izzy> It's why mtpm
exists and Minitel has gotten big improvements recently and the
nightmare that is imanage happened x3
L104[01:39:33] <Izzy> on the ongoing topic
of LLMs, https://blog.fallible.net/it-breaks-a-village/
L105[02:37:33] <Ocawesome101> > Play SKS v13
<Ocawesome101> > Play SKS v13L106[02:37:33] <Ocawesome101> bold of you to assume i
have time for that
<Ocawesome101> bold of you to assume i
have time for thatL107[03:16:20] <Izzy> real
L108[03:20:15] <lunar_sam>
genuinely in awe of the epic memory leak i had
<lunar_sam>
genuinely in awe of the epic memory leak i hadL109[03:20:25] <lunar_sam>
"holy shit why is a single computer using 5gb of
ram"
<lunar_sam>
"holy shit why is a single computer using 5gb of
ram"L110[03:23:19] <The
Patmann> Interesting, now I know to stay away from Bevy and
anything built off it
<The
Patmann> Interesting, now I know to stay away from Bevy and
anything built off itL111[03:27:05] <Izzy> hopefully they can
recover
L112[03:27:14] <Izzy> but it's not a
great situation
L113[03:28:51] <Corded> >
<Ocawesome101> write useful software that's not just a
string of operating…
L114[03:28:51] <lunar_sam>
also, unfortunately, i have to write an OS lol
<lunar_sam>
also, unfortunately, i have to write an OS lolL115[03:28:57] <lunar_sam>
and a multiuser OS, no less
<lunar_sam>
and a multiuser OS, no lessL116[04:24:01] <Izzy> actually on the
topic of hex head bolts, the standard PC screws are hex heads of
some sort
L117[04:24:27] <Izzy> unfortunately
they're not metric so they're probably not gonna fit in a
standard socket set
L118[04:24:45] <Izzy> me omw to replace
them with the nearest metric head equivalent
L119[06:17:53] <RedstoneParkour> Izzy: oh
yeah on the topic of imanage: have you taken a look at the pr i
made yet?
L120[06:23:00] <Izzy> I forgor
L121[06:23:02] <Izzy> that's a
lot
L122[06:28:05] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL123[06:28:05] <MichiBot> Fudge!
Forecaster! You beat SpiderEveryOS's previous record of 4h
27m 13s (By 2h 12m 54s)! I hope you're happy!
L124[06:28:06] <MichiBot>
Forecaster's new record is 6h 40m 7s! Forecaster also gained
0.0111 (0.00222 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#2. Need 0.4616512 more points to pass SpiderEveryOS!
L125[06:29:36] <RedstoneParkour> yup
L126[07:05:58] <TheEpicFishAgain> I have been out of the
loop, did OC get abandoned for 1.7/1.12.2? Repo got archived
<TheEpicFishAgain> I have been out of the
loop, did OC get abandoned for 1.7/1.12.2? Repo got archivedL127[07:05:59] <TheEpicFishAgain> I noticed a GTNH fork
exists, whats that about
<TheEpicFishAgain> I noticed a GTNH fork
exists, whats that aboutL128[07:07:03] <SoraFirestorm> Original OpenComputers
repo has been defacto abandoned for quite some time, it just
wasn't official until OC:R became the officially designated
successor project
<SoraFirestorm> Original OpenComputers
repo has been defacto abandoned for quite some time, it just
wasn't official until OC:R became the officially designated
successor projectL129[07:07:37] <Corded> >
<SoraFirestorm> Original OpenComputers repo has been defacto
abandoned for …
L130[07:07:37] <TheEpicFishAgain> ah that explains why a
gtnh fork has existed for a long while it seems even before the
original got archived
<TheEpicFishAgain> ah that explains why a
gtnh fork has existed for a long while it seems even before the
original got archivedL131[07:07:48] <Corded> >
<Ocawesome101> write useful software that's not just a
string of operating…
L132[07:07:48] <Kristobear38> We should write more silly
software, just for the sake of it
<Kristobear38> We should write more silly
software, just for the sake of itL133[07:07:50] <SoraFirestorm> The GTNH folk have custom
forks of basically all of the mods they are using in that
pack
<SoraFirestorm> The GTNH folk have custom
forks of basically all of the mods they are using in that
packL134[07:08:18] <TheEpicFishAgain> ya I am using quite a
few of
<TheEpicFishAgain> ya I am using quite a
few ofL135[07:08:19] <Kristobear38> Izzy: when is SKS 13 coming
out?
<Kristobear38> Izzy: when is SKS 13 coming
out?L136[07:08:23] <TheEpicFishAgain> +them
<TheEpicFishAgain> +themL137[07:08:34] <SoraFirestorm> My understanding is that
it's mostly to enable higher degrees of integration for
GTNH
<SoraFirestorm> My understanding is that
it's mostly to enable higher degrees of integration for
GTNHL138[07:09:02] <SoraFirestorm> and allows them to update
mods to - for example - be compatible with things they backport
from future vanilla versions
<SoraFirestorm> and allows them to update
mods to - for example - be compatible with things they backport
from future vanilla versionsL139[07:09:04] <TheEpicFishAgain> is a real shame but
understandable that it got abandoned for these older versions
<TheEpicFishAgain> is a real shame but
understandable that it got abandoned for these older versionsL140[07:09:14] <Corded> >
<SoraFirestorm> and allows them to update mods to - for
example - be compat…
L141[07:09:14] <TheEpicFishAgain> angelica
<TheEpicFishAgain> angelicaL142[07:09:31] <SoraFirestorm> (apparently they have
off-hand support that they backported?)
<SoraFirestorm> (apparently they have
off-hand support that they backported?)L143[07:11:30] <Corded> >
<TheEpicFishAgain> is a real shame but understandable that
it got abandoned fo…
L144[07:11:31] <SoraFirestorm> Yeah, it is kind of a
shame... on the other hand, 1.12 is like 10 years old now
<SoraFirestorm> Yeah, it is kind of a
shame... on the other hand, 1.12 is like 10 years old nowL145[07:12:10] <SoraFirestorm> 1.7.10 is like 12-13 years
old
<SoraFirestorm> 1.7.10 is like 12-13 years
oldL147[07:12:20] <TheEpicFishAgain> damn
<TheEpicFishAgain> damnL148[07:12:48] ⇦
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L149[07:13:09] <Izzy> Kristobear38:
waiting on saturation values from lizardqueen
L150[07:15:08] <Kristobear38> Uh
<Kristobear38> UhL151[07:15:20] <Izzy> (Food
rebalance)
L152[07:15:27] <Kristobear38> Ah
<Kristobear38> AhL153[07:15:27] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/xmpp/c98933e5-6091-4753-b243-ab2be607eb7a/hAGmSaVMSeW742opZ_GO1g.jpg
L154[07:23:26] <Kristobear38> Oh look, it's a sun
and a few cheese graters :D
<Kristobear38> Oh look, it's a sun
and a few cheese graters :DL155[07:27:51] <Izzy> very normal about
cheese graters
L156[07:28:07] <Izzy> I gotta get a Sun
Ultra 45 eventually
L157[07:28:09] <Izzy> complete the
set
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L161[11:45:38] *
Amanda meows and looks around
L162[11:45:44] *
Amanda orders MichiBot some %soup
L163[11:45:44] <MichiBot> Waiter!!
Waiter!! There's crimes against the JVM in my soup!
L164[11:46:19] <Amanda> %splash
@Forecaster with mutable iron potion
L165[11:46:19] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable iron potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster.
@Forecaster turns into a tomato pig until someone looks at
them.
L166[11:46:36] <Amanda> Hrm... dang
useless potions
L167[13:22:10] <Corded> >
<TheEpicFishAgain> https://how-old-is-mc.today/1.7.10
L168[13:22:10] <TheFox> I
could have lived a long, long life without seeing this
quantified
<TheFox> I
could have lived a long, long life without seeing this
quantifiedL169[13:23:40] <TheFox>
%tonk
<TheFox>
%tonkL170[14:39:56] *** Joins: Hawk777
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L174[16:39:13] <Corded> >
<TheFox> I could have lived a long, long life without seeing
this qu…
L175[16:39:14] <Forecaster> But you didn't die of
shock, so you can live a long long life with it too 😄
<Forecaster> But you didn't die of
shock, so you can live a long long life with it too 😄L176[16:41:04] <Coyotan>
Not from that, but I was born again when I saw there are 1.21
forks!
<Coyotan>
Not from that, but I was born again when I saw there are 1.21
forks!L177[16:42:27] <Forecaster> And then you died of shock
and is now a lich
<Forecaster> And then you died of shock
and is now a lichL178[16:42:57] <Coyotan>
That'll come after the lack of sleep
<Coyotan>
That'll come after the lack of sleepL179[17:14:44] <Forecaster> I have bad news if anyone was
going to get into digging as a hobby
<Forecaster> I have bad news if anyone was
going to get into digging as a hobbyL180[17:14:57] <Forecaster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1549106188946509904/1789406096645-04d1b75138f5.jpg
<Forecaster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1549106188946509904/1789406096645-04d1b75138f5.jpgL181[17:15:00] <Forecaster> I can't recommend
it
<Forecaster> I can't recommend
itL182[17:19:24] <Hawk777> Pretty sure
that’s AI. If it were real all the dirt would be in cubes,
right?
L183[17:26:40] <Forecaster> I wish
<Forecaster> I wishL184[18:05:51] <SpiderEveryOS> %tonkout
<SpiderEveryOS> %tonkoutL185[18:05:52] <MichiBot> Boo-yah!
SpiderEveryOS! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 6h
40m 7s (By 4h 57m 38s)! I hope you're happy!
L186[18:05:52] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS
has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.011 tonk
points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 3.2790806. Position #1
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L188[18:55:40] <Amanda> Izzy is the
version on main of mtpm working? Seems to be throwing some random
error when calling thread.waitForAll
L189[19:38:22] <Amanda> Oh... it's
something with the process.lua in openos
L190[19:58:29] <Amanda> Izzy nvm,
it's a bug in OC:R
L191[21:47:20] <Amanda> %choose cubes or
halucinate
L192[21:47:20] <MichiBot> Some
"cubes" sounds nice
L193[21:47:32] <Amanda> Hrn... Maybe after
halucinating
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