L1[00:01:50] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk

L2[00:01:51] <MichiBot> Yippee! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 2 hours, 24 minutes and 11 seconds (By 2 hours, 11 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L3[00:01:52] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 4 hours, 35 minutes and 56 seconds! SpiderEveryOS also gained 0.0066 (0.0022 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L6[00:32:01] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster with mutable potion

L7[00:32:01] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable aluminium potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a void lava girl until they stop thinking about it.

L8[02:23:41] <Izzy> thoughts on now stale discourse: the problem of "is LLM generated code a derivative work" (probably) does not present a problem because necessarily copyright law is good and should be supported. it presents a problem because under capitalism, a wealthy hostile actor can happily end your project if you give them any pretext whatsoever. LLM generated code represents a risk to the continuation of

L9[02:23:44] <Izzy> the project that can be avoided by just doing the fun work yourself.

L10[02:24:43] <Izzy> there's a reason that the leaks of the windows 2000 source code are considered radioactive

L11[02:51:09] <SoraFi​restorm> Additional thought on the stale discourse: the reason why I bang the 'radioactivity' drum is that it's probably the only way to convince a suit that the use of LLMs is problematic

L14[03:08:04] *** Joins: MichiBot (~michibot@2604:2dc0:200:54::2) Michibot

L16[04:05:11] <Lord N​ikolas> @Vexatos I am building a modpack with railcraft and Computronics-1.12.2-1.6.7-railcraft-beta-8.jar. Problem is, publicly the latter is only available in source form, not an actual build. I am planning on uploading my modpack onto curseforge. What in your view would be the recommended approach to avoid breaking your licence and

L17[04:05:11] <Corded> ensure curseforge doesn't reject modpack for files outside manifest?

L19[04:21:23] <Lord N​ikolas> Since your mod isn't on Curseforge or Modrinth

L20[04:25:10] <Lord N​ikolas> I could make a fork and create my own release of a built of Computronics-1.12.2-1.6.7-railcraft-beta-8.jar if that's okay with you

L21[04:25:35] <Lord N​ikolas> -of

L22[04:25:48] <Mic​hiyo> You're about 12 hours out of sync for getting a response from Vexatos. You'll need to wait.

L23[04:25:58] <Lord N​ikolas> That's fine

L24[04:26:07] <Lord N​ikolas> I live in eu anyway

L25[04:26:45] <Corded> > <Mic​hiyo> You're about 12 hours out of sync for getting a response fr…

L26[04:26:45] <Lord N​ikolas> wdyt on the matter?

L27[04:27:20] <Lord N​ikolas> * publish

L28[04:27:45] <Mic​hiyo> ¯\(ツ)/¯

L29[04:28:03] <Lord N​ikolas> Glad to not be the only one

L30[05:13:36] <Corded> > <Lord N​ikolas> @Vexatos I am building a modpack with railcraft and Computr…

L31[05:13:36] <Vex​atos> Computronics is allowed to be shipped as a third-party mod.on curseforge, including its betas. You should be allowed to include the jar itself in your mod pack, it's been done before

L32[05:13:49] <Vex​atos> * mod on

L33[05:17:06] <Vex​atos> That's how all mod packs that use computronics include it

L34[05:17:45] <Vex​atos> So just use the existing beta build and it should be no problem

L35[05:18:26] <Vex​atos> So no, please don't make a curseforge project for that

L36[05:55:38] <Va​ur> %tonk

L37[05:55:38] <MichiBot> By my throth! Va​ur! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of 4 hours, 35 minutes and 56 seconds (By 1 hour, 17 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L38[05:55:39] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 5 hours, 53 minutes and 47 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0065 (0.0013 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.3483394 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L40[10:12:50] <Corded> > <Vex​atos> So no, please don't make a curseforge project for that

L41[10:12:50] <Lord N​ikolas> I meant not curseforge, but github fork

L42[10:13:12] <Corded> > <Vex​atos> Computronics is allowed to be shipped as a third-party mod …

L43[10:13:13] <Lord N​ikolas> Thanks

L44[10:13:45] <Vex​atos> Just use the jar file I made

L45[10:13:53] <Vex​atos> And include it in the mod pack

L46[10:13:59] <Vex​atos> It should be accepted

L47[10:14:21] <Vex​atos> There have never been any issues regarding including computronics as a third party mod

L50[10:41:08] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!! Theres a morb in my soup!

L51[10:41:14] <Amanda> Oh no!

L55[11:43:37] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: take the http directive out of HA

L56[12:24:19] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L57[12:24:19] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 5 hours, 53 minutes and 47 seconds (By 34 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L58[12:24:20] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 28 minutes and 40 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00348 (0.00058 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.2641212 more points to pass Spider​EveryOS!

L59[13:02:25] <Izzy> _man_

L60[13:03:16] <Izzy> Blog post about "hey, sublime text still exists and you can use it and it's not hellish"

L61[13:03:16] <Izzy> Remember when it was the hot shit?

L62[13:03:34] <Izzy> https://dbushell.com/2026/08/07/sublime-text/

L63[13:58:07] *** Joins: Vexatos (~Vexatos@2001:4647:af75:0:9b53:c52e:d1b9:c77c) Vexatos

L65[15:01:42] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> there's a reason that the leaks of the windows 2000 source …

L66[15:01:42] <as​ie> and yet, ReactOS has been long accused of relying on leaked Windows kernel code a little too extensively, to the point WINE no longer accepts contributions derived from ReactOS. this has not stopped ReactOS from being cherished and celebrated as a project

L67[15:02:23] <as​ie> likewise, some Nintendo/Sony homebrew libraries were found to have flown too close to the sun with regards to usage of leaked copyrighted material

L70[15:47:21] <Forec​aster> Nice, Sandustry is releasing soon

L71[16:17:12] <Amanda> %remindme 30m go buy more jewelfruit

L72[16:17:13] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "go buy more jewelfruit" in 30m at 08/07/2026 04:47:12 PM

L73[16:47:14] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: go buy more jewelfruit

L74[16:52:03] <SoraFi​restorm> I honestly do not know why Sublime was such a big deal

L75[16:52:10] <SoraFi​restorm> It really didn't seem all that revolutionary

L76[16:52:39] <SoraFi​restorm> I think maybe it popularized the multiple cursors thing that people like?

L77[16:53:07] <Amanda> It was simple, when the normal was bloated IDEs or barebones nothing like vim

L78[16:53:18] <Amanda> and fast

L79[16:54:38] <SoraFi​restorm> I suppose

L80[16:56:47] <SoraFi​restorm> I guess by that point I had been bitten by the Emacs and Lisp bugs so I was happiest doing that

L81[16:58:19] <Amanda> hecc. the trader hasn't refreshed yet

L82[16:58:32] <Amanda> %remindme 50m check the trader again

L83[16:58:32] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check the trader again" in 50m at 08/07/2026 05:48:32 PM

L84[17:00:58] <SoraFi​restorm> the last time I interacted with ST, it was to tell a coworker to not only stop

L85[17:01:51] <SoraFi​restorm> +'pirating it' (yes, it does officially have an 'unlimited evaluation period', but an individual can get away with that, a company can't...) and that it was a crusty ST2 version on top of that

L86[17:02:42] <Amanda> I actually switched back to using ST earlier this year, something in neovim frustrated me to the point of breakaing

L87[17:04:15] <SoraFi​restorm> and that was like 2 years ago or smth

L88[17:16:20] <Forec​aster> ST?

L89[17:18:03] <Mic​hiyo> Sublime Text I'd assume

L90[17:20:52] <SoraFi​restorm> * but

L91[17:20:59] <SoraFi​restorm> ^^^

L92[17:24:13] <Forec​aster> That makes sense

L93[17:24:43] <Forec​aster> I remember looking at it years ago but I didn't like it

L94[17:48:33] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check the trader again

L95[19:31:49] <Forec​aster> %tonkout

L96[19:31:49] <MichiBot> Yay! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours, 28 minutes and 40 seconds (By 38 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L97[19:31:50] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.3989394, Position #2 Need 0.2451212 more points to pass Spider​EveryOS!

L98[20:25:16] <Amanda> %remindme 30m buy more jewelfruit

L99[20:25:17] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "buy more jewelfruit" in 30m at 08/07/2026 08:55:17 PM

L100[20:25:45] <Amanda> Hrm... My O2 situation isn't looking good...

L101[20:29:29] <Forec​aster> You're gonna have to steal some more

L102[20:35:59] <Amanda> Apparently I can't buy more from this station, so I'm just hanging out in their lobby breathing it while I wait

L103[20:37:04] <Va​ur> %chug

L104[20:37:04] <MichiBot> You drink a light tiberium potion (New!). The bottle splits into two revealing a smaller Dull Naqahdah potion.

L105[20:42:32] <Amanda> %choose try the abandoned mine poi or keep veging

L106[20:42:32] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Haven't you always gone with "keep veging"? Hm, maybe not.

L107[20:42:53] <Forec​aster> %sip dull naqahdah

L108[20:42:53] <MichiBot> You drink a dull naqahdah potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a golem until hell freezes over.

L109[20:42:59] <Forec​aster> Dangit

L110[20:43:08] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Was just about to splash you with that

L111[20:55:18] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: buy more jewelfruit

L112[21:00:50] <Amanda> Bah, too soon

L113[21:01:04] <Amanda> %remindme 15m check again

L114[21:01:04] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check again" in 15m at 08/07/2026 09:16:04 PM

L115[21:06:51] <Amanda> Oops, forgot about o2 again

L116[21:16:05] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check again

L117[21:26:02] <Amanda> Hecc. I'm going to have to find somewhere else to get azure jewelfruits. The bee keeper is selling less and less every time

L118[21:26:22] <Amanda> First couple time I got 18. Then 17, and just now it was 15

L119[21:26:35] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk

L120[21:26:35] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 54 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L121[21:26:36] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 1 hour, 54 minutes and 45 seconds! SpiderEveryOS also gained 0.00191 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L122[22:33:48] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster with mutable potion

L123[22:33:48] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable aegisalt potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a sapphire crocodile boy for 3 hours.

L124[22:38:25] <Amanda> Bah. I need to get an empyrion server setup again. The deck just doesn't have enough memory for this