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L1[00:50:19] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk
L2[00:50:19] <MichiBot> Holy charred piece of bacon Batman! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 35 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L3[00:50:20] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 4 hours, 35 minutes and 47 seconds! SpiderEveryOS also gained 0.0046 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L4[00:50:34] <Corded> > <Mich​iBot> Forec​aster: You hit SpiderEveryOS! They lost 0.1882134 ton…
L5[00:50:34] <Spider​EveryOS> ):
L6[02:27:50] * Amanda collapses into a floof singularity
L7[02:27:55] <Amanda> Night girls
L8[02:45:38] <S​3> Izaya: I hope you like Forth
L9[02:48:50] <S​3> It looks like includng Lua into your mod today would be annoying
L10[02:49:12] <S​3> Nearly everything is unmaintained and I don't want to have a bunch of prebuilt libraries for every possible system
L11[03:16:28] <Izzy> guess who just scored a 7600GS AGP
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L15[07:26:59] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L16[07:26:59] <MichiBot> Woooo! Forec​aster! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of 4 hours, 35 minutes and 47 seconds (By 2 hours and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L17[07:27:00] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 36 minutes and 39 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.01005 (0.00201 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.2455012 more points to pass Spider​EveryOS!
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L22[10:06:26] <eagames21> hi
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L24[10:06:59] <Stanislaw337> hi
L25[10:07:06] <eagames21> niger
L26[10:07:16] <eagames21> 67676767677 badass
L27[10:07:18] <Stanislaw337> nigerialandia
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L30[10:08:58] <Forec​aster> @Liizzii-chan https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1532691535106281575/1785492538358-950190765f10.png
L31[10:09:42] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1532691719693271125/1785492582251-2310e42b0476.png
L32[10:10:01] <Forec​aster> No worky >:
L33[10:15:20] <Liizzi​i-chan> Ah, yeah sorry its still a little broke
L34[10:20:33] <Lizzy> hmm, may have deleted the container that had the webchat running in it
L35[10:20:35] <Lizzy> oop
L36[10:21:40] <Lizzy> @Forecaster I'll sort it later. maybe during lunch, if not then when i get home
L37[10:21:51] <Lizzy> only have my tablet right now
L38[10:22:10] <Forec​aster> that's fine, I'm not in a hurry, but I can't do anything on the irc side until it's sorted
L39[10:23:09] <Lizzy> thats fine, ping my IRC nick and i can sort stuff
L40[10:45:41] * Amanda flops atop Lizzy, demands pats or she'll make all of Lizzy's horeses and men try and put her back together with her latest ex
L41[10:48:52] <Forec​aster> ohno
L42[11:26:15] * Lizzy pats Amanda
L43[11:26:24] * Amanda purrs softly. :3
L44[11:26:40] * Amanda offers Lizzy a three-pack of lesbian-panic
L45[11:27:42] <Lizzy> i wanna read more lesbian stories. been reading So I'm a Spider, So What? light novel recently, got a bit of the way through volume 2 then put it down and keep forgetting about it
L46[11:28:39] <Amanda> Did you try IS but trans yet?
L47[11:29:04] <Lizzy> that name is not ringing any bells so probably no
L48[11:29:13] <Amanda> Frame of Reference
L49[11:29:20] <Amanda> https://www.scribblehub.com/series/2402237/frame-of-reference/
L50[11:29:40] <Lizzy> "IS" the only thing coming to my mind right now is "Information Services" which is one of the teams at my workplace
L51[11:29:56] <Izzy> infinite stratos
L52[11:30:06] <Amanda> ^
L53[11:30:11] <Izzy> a truly uninspired mecha academy harem series
L54[11:30:33] <Lizzy> ah
L55[11:31:21] <Amanda> I called Frame of Reference IS but trans because the whole premise of the harem in IS is "What if a guy could suddenly use the macguffin war machiens that previously only women can use!"
L56[11:31:56] <Amanda> Because the MC of FoR is trans, and ofc the UK never considered transwomen might be able to bond with the machines!
L57[11:33:42] <Lizzy> will give it a read over lunch
L58[11:34:09] <Amanda> The opening is... rough. Described being forced into essentially a medical procedure by a group of bullies
L59[11:36:49] <Amanda> ( The bullies will get theirs though, turns out abusing military technology to harass a student is like, super illegal when humanity is on the brink of extinction! )
L60[11:37:39] <Amanda> I'm reaising more and more that "IS but trans" is giving way more credit to IS than it deserves
L61[11:38:12] <Izzy> x3
L62[11:38:18] <Izzy> truly the most wasted ideas in one series
L63[11:39:31] * Amanda offers Izzy a totally-normal chair to sit in, that won't probe her psychically at all or restrain her
L64[11:39:45] * Izzy squints
L65[11:39:45] <Lizzy> :3
L66[11:39:46] <Izzy> suspicious
L67[11:51:02] <Amanda> %choose play some more indie space or force dad to get motivated before it gets too hot out
L68[11:51:02] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "force dad to get motivated before it gets too hot out"!
L69[11:51:20] <Amanda> bbl, need to do some prep for this weekend's camping trip
L70[11:51:38] <Forec​aster> ohno!
L71[12:04:33] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster
L72[12:04:33] <MichiBot> You fling an invisible gold potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. A Void dagger appears next to @Forecaster.
L73[12:04:54] <Forec​aster> oh nice
L74[12:05:17] <Forec​aster> %stab "@Brisingr Aerowing" "Void dagger"
L75[12:05:17] <MichiBot> Forec​aster is trying to stab @Brisingr Aerowing! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L76[12:05:37] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %dodge
L77[12:05:37] <MichiBot> Brisingr Aerowing managed to partially dodge Forecaster wielding Void dagger. With a 13 vs 12 Brisingr Aerowing only takes half of the 2 damage.
L78[12:05:49] <Forec​aster> tch
L79[12:06:16] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %stab @Forecaster with nuclear pasta
L80[12:06:16] <MichiBot> Brisingr Aerowing is trying to stab @Forec​aster! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L81[12:06:34] <Forec​aster> %counterspell
L82[12:06:34] <MichiBot> Forecaster failed to counterspell Brisingr Aerowing wielding nuclear pasta. With a 13 vs 14 (Nuclear +2) Forecaster takes the full 4 damage.
L83[12:06:38] <Forec​aster> D:<
L84[12:06:44] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> :3
L85[13:11:13] * Amanda meows about how it's not fair that it's so hot out already, and humid
L86[13:12:18] <Amanda> 74 freedom, not sure the humidity
L87[13:18:41] <Forec​aster> it was super hot here yesterday but today it's nice and cool
L88[13:30:39] <Lizzy> Amanda: welp, finished the first chapter.... really wanna continue readin but i got work stuff to do. i know i'm gonna binge it as soon as work finishes
L89[13:30:56] <Amanda> Lizzy: :D
L90[13:31:06] <Amanda> g2g again
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L93[14:44:24] <Lizzy> Amanda, update, on chap 3 now
L94[14:47:30] <Amanda> :D
L95[14:54:38] <Amanda> I've got this week's chapter downloaded to my ereader, will read it when I'm riding in the truck to the campground this afternoon
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L98[15:10:07] <Amanda> %choose space time or wait until at campsite/on road
L99[15:10:07] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick "wait until at campsite/on road"
L100[15:18:17] * Amanda flops atop Lizzy, meows about random nonsense
L101[15:19:41] <Lizzy> Chapter 3 finished on the train
L102[15:21:57] <Amanda> Hopefully the train doesn't do a dencheattack
L103[15:22:57] <Lizzy> Am now walking home
L104[15:26:38] <SoraFi​restorm> Were folks aware of this? Seems like a finished port of OC to 1.20.1
L105[15:26:38] <SoraFi​restorm> https://modrinth.com/mod/opencomputers-ce/versions
L106[15:27:04] <SoraFi​restorm> Trying it out for myself
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L108[16:35:09] <SoraFi​restorm> That dev also has a 1.21 branch, but no prebuilt jars for that
L109[16:47:45] <Kristo​bear38> Is this the vibecoded one? Yes we're aware
L110[16:48:32] <SoraFi​restorm> Is it a vibe code? :/
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L112[16:54:34] <ayaya> meow
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L114[16:56:32] <SoraFi​restorm> Hard to tell just from my phone whether I think it is vibed or not
L115[16:56:38] <SoraFi​restorm> If so, definite bummer
L116[16:58:20] <SoraFi​restorm> Yeah okay: https://codeberg.org/akki/OpenComputers-CE/commit/0801b11c7d99b17429176f28ed783474e0ca5277
L117[16:58:22] <SoraFi​restorm> sigh
L118[16:59:31] <Mic​hiyo> Still going to check out the 1.21 branch and use it if it works. I'd rather use vibe coded OC than CC
L119[17:27:17] <SoraFi​restorm> I don't want to use vibecode on principle, but legitimately also concerned that it's going to brittle and the "developer" won't be able to do much to actually improve the situation
L120[17:30:23] <SoraFi​restorm> I'd probably not yearn so much for OC if CC:T had persistence
L121[17:54:25] <Kristo​bear38> I mean any OC is better than no OC at all. At least you have a base that you can improve incrementally
L122[17:55:17] <Kristo​bear38> As opposed to having various ports that are in different state of completion and barely anything works because project lost steam before it could be finished
L123[18:02:08] <Mic​hiyo> 1.21.1 port doesn't work, I managed to make it build, but there is no CPU/RAM etc, and rendering is fuuuuuucked
L124[18:18:59] <Corded> > <Kristo​bear38> I mean any OC is better than no OC at all. At least you h…
L125[18:19:00] <SoraFi​restorm> You essentially can't know the origin of LLM-generated code, practically by design. This makes is a legal minefield that I would want no part of; I'd rather start/continue a port started by a human where the likelihood of contaminated code making its way into the project is - IME - significantly reduced.
L126[18:19:07] <Corded> > <Mic​hiyo> 1.21.1 port doesn't work, I managed to make it build, but t…
L127[18:19:07] <SoraFi​restorm> ... that
L128[18:19:20] <SoraFi​restorm> * that's probably why there isn't a build for that on Modrinth then
L129[18:30:53] <Forec​aster> I haven't played any Minecraft versions past 1.12
L130[18:31:22] <Forec​aster> Mainly because no oc
L131[18:34:36] <Corded> > <Mic​hiyo> reacted 💯 to <Forec​aster> Mainly because no oc
L132[18:37:22] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> I haven't played any Minecraft versions past 1.12
L133[18:37:22] <SoraFi​restorm> It's not exactly that I want to 'keep up with vanilla', because I don't. But every so often they actually do pull a winning move out of their hats and add something cool or adjust something for the better in a way that is hard/impossible to backport (ie ore changes that brought metals in line with coal and gems) and I do want
L134[18:37:22] <Corded> some of that stuff.
L135[18:38:12] <SoraFi​restorm> I really like OC, but the future - base game and mods alike - are very enticing
L136[18:39:04] <Forec​aster> I stopped paying attention to any of that 😛
L137[18:39:06] <Hawk777> I’m in a similar boat. I have a 1.12 world because OC (and plenty of other things too), but while I’m not quite as interested in a lot of the vanilla content, there are a lot of neat mods that you can’t have in 1.12.
L138[18:39:13] <Forec​aster> I have no idea what they've added
L139[18:39:36] <Forec​aster> Nor what mods there are
L140[18:39:46] <Forec​aster> What you don't know can't hurt you
L141[18:40:29] <Hawk777> Well… it’s gotten to the point that even a lot of mods that are available for 1.12 won’t even get bugfixes for that version any more, so if you run into some annoying bug, well, live with it forever.
L142[18:41:23] <SoraFi​restorm> I'd toyed with the idea of doing a port myself but
L143[18:41:23] <SoraFi​restorm> a) completely underqualified because I have very little experience in JVM land
L144[18:41:24] <SoraFi​restorm> b) I know that I will finish my Minecraft phase before I get even a little bit of the way through the process
L145[18:44:32] <SoraFi​restorm> that's not surprising... 1.12 is like... 5+ years old now?
L146[18:44:33] <Mic​hiyo> I'm just thinking of the fun I can have with OC and Create.
L147[18:44:44] <SoraFi​restorm> crusty ancient at this point
L148[18:44:53] <SoraFi​restorm> yeah, I think OC + Create would be a lot of fun
L149[18:45:07] <Mic​hiyo> 2017 for 1.12.2
L150[18:45:50] <SoraFi​restorm> almost 10 holy crap
L151[18:46:52] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah... damn I'm old lol
L152[18:47:05] <Hawk777> (and before anyone mentions “well just fix the bug yourself”… yeah, sure, after I spend two hours trying to figure out which commit I’m even running because nobody tags their mods’ releases properly, and then another two trying to figure out how to get their ten-year-old build system to work, and that’s if the *commit* even exists in their repo any more…)
L153[18:48:03] <RedstoneParkour> and if its ARR all bets are off
L154[18:48:05] <Kristo​bear38> @SoraFirestorm if only everyone who started their own port worked on an existing effort instead...
L155[18:48:39] <SoraFi​restorm> I very briefly ran a custom OC (included some OpenOS changes that eventually landed back into the main release) and building the thing was a chore lol
L156[18:49:35] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah that's the issue with building older mc stuff, between dependencies and other cruft it's a crapshoot if you can even build a clean workspace
L157[18:50:35] <SoraFi​restorm> I have half considered at various points putting up a bounty for someone to finish a port
L158[18:51:27] <Lizzy> at some point, whenever i have this mythical motivation and energy, i wanna try doing a proper mirroring of MC mods for older versions, and also have build stuff set up to be able to make builds of them and instructions and stuff
L159[18:52:55] <Corded> > <Mic​hiyo> Yeah that's the issue with building older mc stuff, between…
L160[18:52:55] <SoraFi​restorm> and that was like 3-4 years ago, so the situation has probably gotten even worse in the interim
L161[18:56:41] <Corded> > <Kristo​bear38> @SoraFirestorm if only everyone who started their own port …
L162[18:56:41] <SoraFi​restorm> I mean... I agree with this assessment, the problem is that wrangling people is probably harder than just doing the work
L163[18:57:47] <Hawk777> Also doesn’t help that “oh hey I should help someone with their open source project” often means submitting a PR and then waiting six months while you find out whether the person who is no longer actively working on the project at least cares enough to merge it or not.
L164[19:02:40] <SoraFi​restorm> because like... I have no interest in any version other than 1.21 at this point, because that's the version I'm playing
L165[19:03:09] <SoraFi​restorm> probably at this point in the game no one else is much interested in <1.20, but that's still a point of development friction
L166[19:07:18] <SoraFi​restorm> I also frankly would not want to be on the hook for providing support after the initial porting effort, especially when my Minecraft phase inevitably ends
L167[19:07:44] <Lizzy> yep
L168[19:07:57] <Lizzy> you have the mc itch for a month or two, then it goes for a year
L169[19:10:37] <SoraFi​restorm> I'd be willing to do it if I felt like I could reasonably get some patreon money out of it or smth
L170[19:11:10] <SoraFi​restorm> but I suspect no one is going to want to pay into a patreon purely for maintenance and porting efforts only (not adding features probably)
L171[19:23:48] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah... you can't get into modding hoping for money. Like I make ~$10 month in CF points, and that's likely all I'll ever make lol
L172[19:37:02] <Forec​aster> Sure you can, you just have to come up with a super popular idea and then make it
L173[19:37:16] <Forec​aster> Come on, get to it
L174[19:37:31] * Lizzy puts @Forecaster to work
L175[19:44:25] <Forec​aster> that's not a good idea because I'm quite stupid
L176[20:32:11] <Forec​aster> FDev just teased the next vessel https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1532848370693967872/1785529930711-0cab53cb497a.png
L177[20:32:29] <Forec​aster> Looks like it'll be a new ground vehicle, what with the wheel
L178[20:32:58] <Forec​aster> maybe something related to surface mining
L179[20:33:58] <Forec​aster> a week until it's revealed, exciting
L180[21:28:07] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> guess who just scored a 7600GS AGP
L181[21:28:08] <S​3> That's cool. I have a 3DFX Voodoo Banshee AGP
L182[21:28:20] <S​3> Oops I hit reply
L183[21:29:23] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/65/2b/21/652b21a743b202bc405d500576d0e848cb9bc918180695e496d3b6496eff91f7.jpg
L184[21:33:17] <S​3> Heck yeah
L185[21:33:21] <S​3> what version of AGP is that?
L186[21:33:29] <S​3> Is it 4x?
L187[21:39:09] <Izzy> Should be 8x I think
L188[21:39:16] <Izzy> doesn't matter tho
L189[21:39:45] <Izzy> AGP on non-x86 platforms is disabled in the kernel
L190[22:25:38] * Amanda flops atop Lizzy, meows pseudo-random numbers chosen by a fair dice roll
L191[22:27:32] <Forec​aster> Good thing it wasn't a fairy dice roll
L192[22:27:41] <Forec​aster> Can't trust those
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L194[22:54:19] <Va​ur> %tonk
L195[22:54:20] <MichiBot> Sard! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 6 hours, 36 minutes and 39 seconds (By 8 hours, 50 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L196[22:54:21] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 15 hours, 27 minutes and 20 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.06188 (0.00884 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.2606794 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L197[22:54:44] <Va​ur> that's ... a long record 😄
L198[23:03:04] <Corded> > <Spider​EveryOS> reacted 👍 to <Va​ur> that's ... a long record 😄
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