L1[00:34:26] <Va​ur> %tonk

L2[00:34:26] <MichiBot> By my throth! Va​ur! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 43 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L3[00:34:27] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 43 minutes and 21 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00472 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.173266 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L4[00:50:40] <Spider​EveryOS> %sip

L5[00:50:41] <MichiBot> You drink a dangerous emerald potion (New!). The bottle turns into a mithril sling.

L6[02:52:06] *** Joins: Hawk777 (~Hawk777@2605:1700:1080:de00:d484:e882:2a8b:764e) Hawk777

L8[05:30:58] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1527185757305831525/1784179858461-14c10395a998.jpg

L9[05:52:10] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonkout

L10[05:52:10] <MichiBot> Yay! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 4 hours, 43 minutes and 21 seconds (By 34 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L11[05:52:11] <MichiBot> Spider​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 2.453954. Position #1

L12[05:52:28] <Corded> > <Forec​aster>

L13[05:52:28] <Spider​EveryOS> You got a link to the full article?

L14[05:52:41] <Spider​EveryOS> Actually I'll just look it up

L15[06:10:57] <Izzy> lil bit disappointing. "open source is not ideological" and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race and all that

L16[06:20:11] <Forec​aster> https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

L17[07:08:39] <Forec​aster> It might come back to bite him in the future when suddenly nobody knows how anything works

L19[07:14:31] <Corded> > <Spider​EveryOS> reacted 👍 to <Forec​aster> It might come back to bite him in the future when suddenly nobody knows how any…

L21[08:10:07] <Corded> > <S​3> Does it fly?

L22[08:10:07] <Kristo​bear38> Not yet

L23[08:10:16] *** Joins: simon816 (~simon816@secondary.machine.simon816.com) simon816

L24[08:26:37] <Forec​aster> Sure it does, you just have to throw it

L27[10:18:01] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!! Theres a Shiny \ \! (10%) in my soup!

L29[10:32:47] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable gold potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a ferozium robot girl until someone turns on a lamp and then off again.

L30[10:36:08] <Forec​aster> D:

L31[10:36:13] <Forec​aster> toggles lamp

L32[10:36:19] <Amanda> Hecc

L34[10:47:48] <Forec​aster> hides the batteries >:

L35[11:05:02] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable orange potion

L36[11:05:02] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable orange potion that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a seahorse girl until they steal the concept of stealing.

L38[11:05:47] <Amanda> It's now a pocket-dimension inside a pocket-dimension!

L39[11:07:00] <Forec​aster> rude >:

L40[12:41:31] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk

L41[12:41:31] <MichiBot> Huzzah! Spider​EveryOS! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 49 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L42[12:41:32] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 6 hours, 49 minutes and 21 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00682)

L43[12:41:36] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torv���

L44[12:41:36] <S​3> That video is so ancient now

L45[13:27:48] <Corded> > <S​3> That video is so ancient now

L46[13:27:48] <Forec​aster> The one that the thumbnail frame is from yes

L47[13:28:04] <Forec​aster> It's not related to the article though

L48[13:31:18] <Amanda> Hrmm....

L49[13:32:02] <Amanda> %choose space2 or try and be prudictive through the waiting mode

L50[13:32:02] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Once you get a taste of "space2" you can't stop.

L51[14:23:12] *** Joins: Vexatos (~Vexatos@2001:4647:af75:0:eb6b:e58:aa46:6102) Vexatos

L53[15:10:38] <Amanda> %choose comfort or utility

L54[15:10:39] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I had a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "utility"

L55[15:11:08] <Forec​aster> %sip

L56[15:11:08] <MichiBot> You drink a prickly sky potion (New!). Forecaster thinks "What if, like, *we* are the potions man?". This makes no sense whatsoever.

L57[15:11:17] <Forec​aster> that's no help D:<

L58[15:11:54] <Forec​aster> where are all the seahorse cure potions

L59[16:05:20] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> %choose space2 or try and be prudictive through the waiting…

L60[16:05:21] <S​3> How is se2

L61[16:05:27] <S​3> I've been very skeptical

L62[16:05:32] <S​3> And I don't want to spend money

L63[16:06:42] <Forec​aster> from what I've seen it's SE1 but better

L64[16:06:42] <luna​r_sam> i can't even get SE2 to run under proton

L65[16:06:48] <luna​r_sam> or, create a world, that is

L66[16:06:50] <Forec​aster> but it doesn't have all the features of 1 yet

L67[16:06:56] <luna​r_sam> i get to the menu and all just fine

L68[16:07:24] <Forec​aster> (and it's not optimized yet either I suppose)

L69[16:08:52] <Forec​aster> If you're fine with SE1 then just play that until 2 is actually released

L70[16:13:10] <Va​ur> %chug

L71[16:13:11] <MichiBot> You drink a rather bombastium potion (New!). A fox flies past that vaguely resembles someone Vaur knows.

L72[16:40:55] <Ne​oR> Oh boy. gonna go get myself banned!

L73[16:41:36] <Mic​hiyo> Effective.

L74[16:41:52] <Forec​aster> Nice

L75[16:46:36] <Amanda> @S3 It's pretty good, but don't in contrast to Fore, I would say don't go into it expecting "SE1, but more." They're focusing a lot more on a story-ish element to it. You don't get to immediately go from the starting pod to the end planet, at least not int he main mode it funnels you to. I get the sense they want to actually tell a story in SE2, and the mechanics so far are in furtherance to that goal

L76[16:47:10] <Amanda> Late this year we're getting p2p co-op multiplayer, no dedicated servers or competetive features

L77[16:47:31] <Forec​aster> but there is something resembling the SE1 survival mode now

L78[16:47:39] <Amanda> true

L79[16:48:14] <Amanda> but honestly, the salt I see on the keen discord seems largely from people who just want SE1, but more. Which I get the sense keen isn't really meaning to be the end goal of SE2

L80[16:48:48] <Amanda> I get the sense they're trying to make it less of a "sandbox to bash your toys together in" and more into a "proper" game

L81[16:48:58] <Forec​aster> well, I mean, I hope it ends up better than SE1, while still allowing the same creativity

L82[16:49:29] <Amanda> In VS2.3 they went and made a lot of missions be "go here, build shit with these parameters and PCU limits."

L83[16:49:59] <Amanda> Also if you have an AMD gpu, expect issues with the cutscenes, they're straight-up disabled

L84[16:51:22] <Amanda> @lunar_sam It runs fine with whatever the valve default is for me on my deck, at least I don't think I did any protontweaks or similar

L85[16:51:39] <Amanda> excluding the caviet that the cutscenes are disabled due to them being buggy on amd graphics chips

L86[16:56:21] <Ne​oR> I want to try SE2, but I can't justify it... even more so with only p2p multiplayer

L87[16:56:25] <Ne​oR> Oh

L88[16:56:25] <Ne​oR> shit

L89[16:56:39] <Mic​hiyo> Whelp.

L90[16:56:41] <Mic​hiyo> cough

L91[16:56:46] <Mic​hiyo> Forgot to swap accounts back

L92[16:58:18] <S​3> Huh. I guess that's one way to handle SE2. It's kind of hard to just improve a sandbox and call it a new game.

L93[16:58:40] <Forec​aster> well they've managed to improve the build system a lot

L94[16:58:44] <Forec​aster> that's mainly why I got it

L95[17:00:27] <Forec​aster> Also, relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzXIzJdnduw

L96[17:04:38] <Kristo​bear38> people were screaming about having some actual goals baked into SE1 for a long time, it's just that the people hired to do community management made a very good job at moderating these comments away

L97[17:05:11] <Kristo​bear38> to their credit keen did do some stuff in that direction but most of it was half-assed

L98[17:05:53] <Forec​aster> unhappy people? on the internet? I can't believe it

L99[17:16:07] <Mic​hiyo> I'm unhappy with this.

L100[17:17:28] <Forec​aster> ohno

L101[17:18:07] <Forec​aster> I will pretend I didn't hear that to protect my beliefs

L102[17:18:41] <Mic​hiyo> I am unhappy with your beliefs.

L104[17:40:16] <Mic​hiyo> pats Amanda

L106[17:51:02] <Forec​aster> huh, apparently I've just accidentally recorded a 4 hour long video

L107[17:51:04] <Forec​aster> woops

L108[17:51:54] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> Also if you have an AMD gpu, expect issues with the cutscen…

L109[17:51:54] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> huh. they're disabled on AMD specifically across all platforms? that's... honestly impressive breakage

L110[17:52:23] <Amanda> might just be on linux, but last I heard it was broken on windows too

L111[17:52:34] <Amanda> so they just disabled the cutscenes until they can fix it

L112[17:52:47] <Amanda> I'm guessing they're unintentionally using some nvidia-specific bs

L113[18:02:12] <Amanda> Worth noting, I believe the cutscenes are pre-rendered

L114[18:02:17] <Amanda> so it's some video playback issue

L115[18:03:01] <Amanda> Hrm....

L116[18:05:07] <Amanda> %choose seperate subnet for echos

L117[18:05:07] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Fine, but only if I receive pats after.

L118[18:05:28] <Amanda> Hrm... we'll see if I can convince the family to use one first

L119[18:05:53] <Amanda> %choose waves; talky or dancy or psychic or radioactive

L120[18:05:53] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: dancy waves

L121[19:41:39] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?

L122[19:41:39] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Oh, I've heard about that. You'll want to wait until tomorrow.

L123[19:44:10] <Forec​aster> I don't think that's gonna happen MichiBot

L124[19:44:29] <Amanda> Definetaly not.

L125[20:03:40] <Va​ur> %tonkout

L126[20:03:40] <MichiBot> Willikers! Va​ur! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of 6 hours, 49 minutes and 21 seconds (By 32 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L127[20:03:41] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.75324. Position #3 Need 0.157266 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L131[20:54:42] <Forec​aster> Poor golem is doomed pretty much wherever it is summoned

L132[21:04:42] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime now?

L133[21:04:42] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Oh, I've heard about that. You'll want to wait until tomorrow.

L134[21:04:46] <Amanda> ... no.

L136[21:26:17] <Izzy> did they fix any of the Issues with physics, like the speed cap?

L137[21:30:52] <Amanda> Speed cap is 300/s now

L138[21:31:06] <Amanda> M/s

L139[21:35:06] <Izzy> so no

L140[21:35:07] <Izzy> gotcha

L141[21:35:26] <Amanda> Vanilla cap in se1 was 100m/s

L142[21:35:50] <Izzy> yup

L143[21:37:27] <Amanda> Oh I get it now, yrs, there's still a speed cap. Not sure if that's due to physics issues, or just a gameplay element

L144[21:38:38] <Amanda> They claim to have slain klang, but then you can instant-extend pistons to get free thrust, so...

L146[22:15:44] <Amanda> Hrm... My tummy is demanding more tributes

L148[23:02:12] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk

L149[23:02:12] <MichiBot> Fudge! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 58 minutes and 31 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L150[23:02:13] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 2 hours, 58 minutes and 31 seconds! SpiderEveryOS also gained 0.00298 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.