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L1[00:00:20] <luna​r_sam> yippie https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1501010623604199465/1777939220243-b27ebcb9b1902.png
L2[00:04:46] <luna​r_sam> i completely forgot i had this https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1501011738018054225/1777939485944-026f6a51674f9.png
L3[00:04:55] <luna​r_sam> (ziptie's config format)
L4[00:17:47] * Amanda pawhugs Elfi, meows eepily about how she hopes to get more than ~6h total of sleep tonight
L5[00:18:14] <Amanda> (6h in two ~3h chunks. Being sick sucks. )
L6[00:39:35] <Amanda> Right, with me luck girls
L7[00:39:50] * Amanda collapses into a eepy floof singularity, does a heccen zzzmew
L8[00:53:48] <luna​r_sam> okay now it's actually sorting
L9[01:07:50] <Izzy> Renno: SKS v13 soon probably :3 v12 is probably well past endgame. Got the planning stuff up on the wiki https://wiki.shadowkat.net/doku.php?id=mcv13:start
L10[01:54:37] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> So Fluidlogged API kept crashing Liizzii?
L11[01:54:40] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Weird
L12[01:55:19] <Izzy> singleplayer specifically
L13[01:55:32] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> What version of the mod?
L14[01:55:35] <Izzy> think it handles hard closes worse
L15[01:55:44] <Izzy> latest as of a few months ago
L16[01:57:12] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> I've never had a crash with the 3.x versions
L17[01:57:40] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> And I only play singleplayer
L18[01:58:25] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> I had lots of MC crashes and hangs when my OS was using Wayland
L19[01:58:44] <Izzy> to be clear it was breaking the worlds on load
L20[01:58:56] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Very weird
L21[02:02:21] <Forec​aster> %sip dull radiation
L22[02:02:21] <MichiBot> You drink a dull radiation potion. Forecaster barely manages to catch a green shell that appears in front of them! (Rem. uses: 3)
L23[02:21:59] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster dull radiation
L24[02:21:59] <MichiBot> You fling a dull radiation potion that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster barely manages to catch a green shell that appears in front of them! (Rem. uses: 2)
L25[03:44:07] ⇦ Quits: Stary (Stary@thonk.9net.org) (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
L26[03:44:07] ⇦ Quits: CompanionCube (samis@thonk.9net.org) (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
L27[03:48:38] *** Joins: Stary (Stary@thonk.9net.org) Stary2001
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L29[04:04:59] <Forec​aster> %sip dull radiation
L30[04:05:00] <MichiBot> You drink a dull radiation potion. Forecaster barely manages to catch a green shell that appears in front of them! (Rem. uses: 1)
L31[05:32:38] <Spider​EveryOS> %sip dull radiation
L32[05:32:39] <MichiBot> You drink a dull radiation potion. SpiderEveryOS barely manages to catch a green shell that appears in front of them! (Rem. uses: 0)
L33[05:33:03] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonkout
L34[05:33:03] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Flamei​ngsoul's previous record of 5 hours, 29 minutes and 10 seconds (By 5 hours, 21 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L35[05:33:04] <MichiBot> Spider​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.01 tonk points! plus 0.009 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.392654. Position #1
L36[05:33:19] <Spider​EveryOS> Wow, that's quite a few points
L37[06:02:36] <Va​ur> %chug
L38[06:02:37] <MichiBot> You drink a circular solarium potion (New!). Vaur's nails turn the color of amethyst until someone turns off a lamp and then on again.
L39[07:14:04] ⇦ Quits: Hawk777 (~Hawk777@2605:1700:10aa:6600:2a2b:b306:ae25:939f) (Quit: Leaving.)
L40[07:44:47] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L41[07:44:47] <MichiBot> Sard! Forec​aster! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 11 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L42[07:44:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 11 minutes and 44 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.0022 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.170258 more points to pass Spider​EveryOS!
L43[08:32:56] ⇦ Quits: xal (~xal@mx1.xal.systems) (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
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L45[09:51:31] * Amanda pokes her head up, meows and looks around
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L48[10:02:36] * Amanda orders MichiBot some %soup
L49[10:02:37] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!! Theres turbo seed bullets in my soup!
L50[10:02:49] <Amanda> Oh nice, you can grow crops really fast with those!
L51[10:03:02] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable yellow potion
L52[10:03:02] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable yellow potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a ruby horse girl until someone looks at them.
L53[10:03:12] <Amanda> ... it did nothing! Nothing!
L54[10:09:25] * Amanda curls up around Elfi to protecc, debates space time
L55[10:24:53] <Forec​aster> good!
L56[10:31:09] <Amanda> %remindme 1h drink the vitiman c stuff
L57[10:31:09] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "drink the vitiman c stuff" in 1h at 05/05/2026 11:31:08 AM
L58[10:48:21] <Amanda> %choose comfort or utility
L59[10:48:21] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A nearby lamp replies "utility".
L60[10:48:27] <Amanda> Hrm...
L61[10:51:50] <Va​ur> %tonk
L62[10:51:50] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 11 minutes and 44 seconds (By 55 minutes and 18 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L63[10:51:51] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 7 minutes and 2 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00276 (0.00092 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.140636 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L64[11:10:28] ⇦ Quits: vftdan_irc (~vftdan@185.238.219.89) (Ping timeout: 201 seconds)
L65[11:31:09] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: drink the vitiman c stuff
L66[12:35:38] <vftdan> It was mentioned in another channel that analyzer sends the device's uuid into the player's chat. But if I want a programmatically controlled string, I can only send it in a radius (via Computronics), and not to at-most-one player?
L67[12:37:40] <Redston​eParkour> seems like it
L68[12:38:09] <Redston​eParkour> though you could have everyone have a tablet ready then beep that tablet if you want their attention
L69[12:38:44] <Redston​eParkour> hmm crazier idea: connect to irc and ping them on there
L70[12:39:12] <Redston​eParkour> i hope thats allowed
L71[12:40:08] <vftdan> Well, my use-case is the opposite direction clipboard
L72[12:41:03] <Redston​eParkour> oh
L73[12:41:17] <Redston​eParkour> internet bridge
L74[12:41:17] <vftdan> Would chatbox or mc remove control characters from the message?
L75[12:41:59] <Redston​eParkour> not sure
L76[12:42:07] <Redston​eParkour> try it i guess
L77[12:42:09] <vftdan> Well, it would require a public ip address
L78[12:42:29] <Redston​eParkour> nope
L79[12:42:53] <Redston​eParkour> https://oc.cil.li/topic/1967-stem-easy-internet-bridge/
L80[12:43:39] <Forec​aster> I need a second E:D account...
L81[12:45:09] <Forec​aster> I want to mine with two ships at once
L82[12:52:33] <luna​r_sam> lol you can make a super trimmed down version of the BIOS if you want now https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1501204957075083415/1777985553062-29a4ff68b8cff.png
L83[12:53:01] <luna​r_sam> dunno why you would cut out _everything_ but you can if you want
L84[12:55:53] <Redston​eParkour> hmm lunar_sam how big is the config?
L85[12:56:30] <luna​r_sam> what
L86[12:57:28] <Redston​eParkour> *maybe* you can use some of the eeprom's data area for more code
L87[12:58:11] <luna​r_sam> oh lol no
L88[12:58:49] <luna​r_sam> _currently_ the config is only like 46 bytes but still
L89[12:59:50] <Redston​eParkour> `..component.invoke(component.list("eeprom")(),"getData"):sub(1,-47)` seems less than 200 bytes to me
L90[12:59:57] <luna​r_sam> the extra 200-ish bytes won't be enough for anything significant
L91[13:00:17] <Redston​eParkour> alr
L92[13:00:22] <luna​r_sam> however i'm gonna have an 8k version
L93[13:00:32] <luna​r_sam> perhaps i can fit a config tool and better boot menu in that
L94[13:22:32] ⇦ Parts: vftdan (b5cb05d1b9@2a00:c70:1:178:170:40:189:1) (Error from remote client))
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L96[13:32:21] <luna​r_sam> wow
L97[13:32:41] <luna​r_sam> i'm trying to make a fun little script that gets the info about different OC BIOSes
L98[13:32:58] <luna​r_sam> i didn't realize how vile the config storage of the legacy zorya was
L99[13:33:21] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster with mutable potion
L100[13:33:22] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable octiron potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a dryad girl until they eat a pie.
L101[13:42:45] <Forec​aster> D:
L102[13:42:57] <Forec​aster> great now I have to buy a pie on the way home
L103[13:42:59] <Forec​aster> the horror!
L104[13:47:47] <luna​r_sam> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1501218857279553616/1777988867067-679862bc0f2f6.png
L105[13:47:48] <luna​r_sam> lol
L106[13:48:01] <luna​r_sam> it detects BIOSes that don't set globals by just checking the EEPROM checksum
L107[14:14:59] <vftdan> It would be nice if instead of removing `debug.sethook` and `debug.getinfo` altogether, the runtime instead implemented virtualized wrappers that conceal everything happening outside of the computer's code
L108[14:20:23] <vftdan> Tho for a proper stealthiness, lua would need to provide a way to retrieve the remaining counter value of the active hooks.
L109[14:23:52] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk
L110[14:23:52] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 3 hours, 7 minutes and 2 seconds (By 24 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L111[14:23:53] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 3 hours, 32 minutes and 2 seconds! SpiderEveryOS also gained 0.00168 (0.00042 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L112[14:25:44] <Corded> > <vft​dan> Tho for a proper stealthiness, lua would need to provide a …
L113[14:25:44] <Redston​eParkour> have the supervising hook run its own counter
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L115[14:28:55] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L116[14:32:59] <vftdan> Then to have a precise value, I would need to call it every instruction violating the [efficiency property](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popek_and_Goldberg_virtualization_requirements#VMM_definition)
L117[14:34:29] ⇦ Quits: ping (~uwu@femboy.me) (Quit: 🥕🐡)
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L119[14:39:00] <Va​ur> %chug
L120[14:39:00] <MichiBot> You drink a slimy sky potion (New!). Vaur: Nothing seemed to happen...
L121[15:13:26] <vftdan> Do I understand correctly that the logic responsible for the removal of debug functions resides in `machine.lua`?
L122[16:01:55] <Ocawes​ome101> Yes
L123[16:07:37] <Kristo​bear38> Izzy: the "trading between towns" never really worked I feel like
L124[16:09:04] <Kristo​bear38> Not on such small scales
L125[16:11:21] <Kristo​bear38> Though I do yearn for a setup that would force players to build rail networks (e.g. by having some resources spawn only in specific areas far away)
L126[16:15:48] <Forec​aster> I do want to finish that project, but time is a premium resource
L127[16:40:13] <Kristo​bear38> I totally get it
L128[16:49:33] <Amanda> %choose hashbrowns or candy
L129[16:49:33] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I tried reading my tea leaves this morning. There was something about death and doom. Anyway, go with "hashbrowns"
L130[16:49:40] <Amanda> Hrm...
L131[16:50:02] <Amanda> I'm guessing the "death and doom" would be me falling down the basement steps to bring up more hashbrowns, so candy it is
L132[16:52:52] <Forec​aster> But cats always land on their feet
L133[16:58:19] <Forec​aster> or was it "cats always land on someone's feet"
L134[18:21:35] <Corded> > <vft​dan> Then to have a precise value, I would need to call it every…
L135[18:21:36] <Redston​eParkour> no, you can have the outer hook run every `math.min(outer_counter, inner_counter)`, changing it when the inner counter (or outer counter) is about to trigger
L136[18:29:57] <Va​ur> %tonk
L137[18:29:58] <MichiBot> Yay! Va​ur! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of 3 hours, 32 minutes and 2 seconds (By 34 minutes and 3 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L138[18:29:59] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 6 minutes and 5 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00228 (0.00057 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.138356 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L139[18:34:20] <Amanda> %choose swap towers or just sit around doing nothing all night
L140[18:34:20] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Why not both? Okay fine. "swap towers".
L141[18:48:45] <Forec​aster> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-meow-mrrp-00.html
L142[18:48:54] <Forec​aster> _side-eyes Amanda_
L143[18:48:59] <Forec​aster> < - <
L144[19:22:58] <Amanda> wasn't me!
L145[20:49:08] <Amanda> Elfi~ Where's the ice on Pertam? I need to get h2 generation going, my starting rover only has about half a tank left....
L146[21:05:44] <Forec​aster> North pole!
L147[21:08:38] <Izzy> Kristobear38: I expect trade will fall off over time as settlements branch out, but yes I want to encourage infra between towns :3
L148[21:20:09] <Izzy> I was considering making the portal to the dungeon dimension generate in the world and not be buildable
L149[21:35:19] <Elfi> Check under the grass
L150[21:49:51] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@2001:4647:af75:0:42d6:e386:e2e8:57cd) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L151[21:53:25] <Izzy> ffs
L152[21:53:39] <Izzy> so not only did they make luakit functionally useless if you want to change your browser's behaviour
L153[21:54:08] <Izzy> they're using LuaJIT so if your distro doesn't ship Lua 5.1 packages any more (many don't because Lua 5.1 is OLD) you can't build it
L154[21:55:48] * Amanda curls up around Elfi
L155[21:56:12] <Amanda> Think it's time to build a flying ship, driving around with just the rover is a bit too slow considering the mortal needs of the enginer
L156[21:56:24] <Amanda> on the up side, I've now got seeds for every food type except for mushrooms
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L158[22:25:53] <Amanda> %choose build a $ ship; mining or small cargo
L159[22:25:53] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: build a mining ship
L160[22:31:30] <Amanda> Hrm, will have to get more iron metinks
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