L1[00:24:03] <Ar​iri> izzy: so it seems ive never had an efi parition, but my disk is formatted as msdos and /boot is ext4

L2[00:24:10] <Ar​iri> idk how this ever worked in the first place as uefi

L3[00:24:19] <Izzy> maybe didn't

L4[00:24:30] <Izzy> need grub-pc rather than grub-efi or whatever they're called ig

L5[00:24:31] <Ar​iri> im unable to do grub-install without an efi directory

L6[00:24:37] <Ar​iri> i defineitely rebooted before

L7[00:24:43] <Ar​iri> grub-pc?

L8[00:24:49] <Izzy> for BIOS boot rather than EFI

L9[00:24:54] <Ar​iri> its an x86 machine though

L10[00:24:56] <Izzy> may not be called grub-pc

L11[00:24:58] <Izzy> yes

L12[00:24:59] <Ar​iri> and grml booted with uefi too

L13[00:25:03] <Izzy> once upon a time there was no UEFI

L14[00:25:09] <Izzy> so you had MBR booting

L15[00:25:12] <Ar​iri> everything says it was alr uefi

L16[00:25:21] <Ar​iri> once upon a time, lol

L17[00:25:23] <Izzy> the disk is not GPT?

L18[00:25:29] <Ar​iri> nope

L19[00:25:32] <Ar​iri> msdos

L20[00:25:33] <Izzy> probably wasn't UEFI

L21[00:25:50] <Ar​iri> but the bootloader rn is formatted as i386

L22[00:25:52] <Ar​iri> and that didnt work

L23[00:26:00] <Ar​iri> theres no bios boot afaict

L24[00:26:03] <Izzy> okay but if it's still trying to do UEFI mode of course it won't

L25[00:26:10] <Izzy> is there an EFI partition?

L26[00:26:15] <Ar​iri> no

L27[00:26:18] <Ar​iri> only /boot and /

L28[00:26:24] <Ar​iri> and thats the whole "disk"

L29[00:26:27] <Izzy> what fstype is /boot

L30[00:26:39] <Ar​iri> ext4

L31[00:26:39] <Izzy> oh, ext4

L32[00:26:42] <Izzy> yeah no

L33[00:26:46] <Izzy> that machine was not booting via UEFI

L34[00:27:08] <Ar​iri> so did release-upgrade just add grub-ufi-amd64 and shim-signed for no reason???

L35[00:27:12] <Izzy> install grub-pc or whatever

L36[00:27:26] <Ar​iri> if thats the case too then why do i only have uefi options when i try to boot manually

L37[00:27:31] <Ar​iri> like in the system before boot

L38[00:27:34] <Amanda> UEFI requires a FAT partition

L39[00:27:42] <Izzy> because the computer creates them by default for each disk?

L40[00:28:18] <Izzy> probably set to allow from both but the system was installed for BIOS boot

L41[00:28:39] <Izzy> and chances are the update installed the standard software which happens to include EFI tools

L42[00:29:00] <Amanda> %choose more factory-cubes?

L43[00:29:01] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Are you sure? Well alright.

L44[00:29:15] <Amanda> I guess so?

L45[00:31:51] <Ar​iri> well the story was bascially, i had this server, afaik it only had / and /boot paritions; i do a release-upgrade, it probably muks up somewhere but i didnt notice; i reboot it and its stuck on "booting from hard disk"; i ask the host for a recovery and they do that; then i mount everything and chroot, which updates stuf like

L46[00:31:51] <Corded> linux-firmware, and i manage to regen intramfs and do grub-install which does it in i386 mode; but now on reboot it comes up with this screen and has done so ever since https://cloud.blazar.observer/s/BLPrT2TfX2PtDgi/preview

L47[00:32:14] <Ar​iri> so if youre right in that it was booted in bios mode, im not sure why i only have uefi or pxe boot options

L48[00:32:29] <Izzy> is there a setting in the BIOS for it?

L49[00:32:48] <Izzy> like I'm telling you that if there's no FAT partition for EFI it was not booting in EFI mode before

L50[00:33:01] <Izzy> I don't know exactly how it broke though I'm not a psychic

L51[00:37:37] <Ar​iri> yeah i know ur not a psychic im just so confused by how there is so much evidence now of it trying to boot as uefi if it never did in the first place

L52[00:37:47] <Ar​iri> im trying to check the bios again to see if theres something i missed

L53[00:41:58] <Ar​iri> i dont see anything in the menus that indicates i can boot from bios https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1769647317613.png https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1769647317814.png

L54[00:42:50] <Izzy> got the CSM enabled?

L55[00:44:37] <Ar​iri> i dont even see that option

L56[00:44:47] <Ar​iri> theres like nothing in this bios except stuff for net booting basically

L58[02:00:02] <Amanda> Night girls

L59[02:06:21] <Ar​iri> i found it from the host that there was never an efi parition but they didnt specify if whether or not there is a hidden one, asking them for more info to see if grub-efi is present on the initial image or if it even boots in uefi mode at all

L60[02:21:37] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk

L61[02:21:37] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Flamei​ngsoul's previous record of 1 hour, 52 minutes and 49 seconds (By 1 hour, 51 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L62[02:21:38] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 3 hours, 44 minutes and 25 seconds! SpiderEveryOS also gained 0.00372 (0.00186 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L63[03:15:34] *** Joins: Hawk777 (~Hawk777@2605:1700:10aa:6600:8e6e:4a32:f3f5:3cee) Hawk777

L65[04:24:47] <Forec​aster> %sip

L66[04:24:47] <MichiBot> You drink a fractured röd potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a bavarium grass golem girl until they recite the litany against fear.

L67[04:24:54] <Forec​aster> Dangit

L68[04:25:22] <Forec​aster> Fear is the mind killer etc etc

L69[04:34:13] <Va​ur> %chug

L70[04:34:13] <MichiBot> You drink a woolly redstone potion (New!). Vaur suddenly forgets a random piece of trivia.

L71[05:11:13] *** Joins: Hawk777 (~Hawk777@2605:1700:10aa:6600:64e6:f4d:a17f:51ef) Hawk777

L72[05:23:59] <Va​ur> %chug

L73[05:23:59] <MichiBot> You drink a timeless apple potion (New!). Vaur grows whiskers until someone turns off a lamp.

L74[07:03:17] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonkout

L75[07:03:18] <MichiBot> Boo-yah! Spider​EveryOS! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 44 minutes and 25 seconds (By 57 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L76[07:03:19] <MichiBot> Spider​EveryOS has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.3091, Position #1

L77[07:17:21] <Forec​aster> no, stop it

L78[09:04:43] <Flamei​ngsoul> %tonk

L79[09:04:43] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Flamei​ngsoul! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 1 minute and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L80[09:04:44] <MichiBot> Flameingsoul's new record is 2 hours, 1 minute and 25 seconds! Flameingsoul also gained 0.00202 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.21324 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L82[10:05:00] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1769681100355.png

L84[10:40:15] *** Joins: simon816 (~simon816@secondary.machine.simon816.com) simon816

L87[10:45:27] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!! Theres a whole tetraflop npu in my soup!

L88[10:49:20] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable röd potion

L89[10:49:20] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable röd potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a jumbonium lava girl until someone turns off a lamp.

L90[10:55:33] <Forec​aster> D:

L92[11:10:21] <Flamei​ngsoul> %chug

L93[11:10:21] <MichiBot> You drink a shiny silver potion (New!). Flameingsoul's bed is suddenly slightly more comfortable until they find a lamp.

L94[11:13:13] <Forec​aster> Hey! That's my heat!

L95[12:31:45] <Flamei​ngsoul> Appears not to be anymore

L96[12:32:06] <Flamei​ngsoul> %tonkout

L97[12:32:06] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Flamei​ngsoul! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 1 minute and 25 seconds (By 1 hour, 25 minutes and 57 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L98[12:32:07] <MichiBot> Flamei​ngsoul has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.08694, Position #4 Need 0.20624 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L99[12:32:38] <Flamei​ngsoul> And a good old swig of %chug

L100[12:32:38] <MichiBot> You drink a still cyan potion (New!). It sounds like someone is dragging a large metal axe along the floor nearby... Wait, now the sound is gone...

L101[12:42:19] <AD​OBO> Hello!

L102[12:42:41] <Forec​aster> %yeshello

L103[12:42:41] <MichiBot> Hello, welcome to the opencomputers IRC channel/Discord server. If you just connected from minecraft, yes this is a real chat. There are people here. You probably have to say something more than "hello" to get a reply though.

L104[12:43:41] <AD​OBO> What the what

L105[12:43:57] <AD​OBO> Cool bot

L106[12:44:47] <Forec​aster> that sounds suspiciously like something a bot would say

L107[12:55:14] <AD​OBO> https://tenor.com/view/error-captcha-falcodrin-big-rocks-wilderness-lore-error-captcha-unsolvable-queue-gif-24396493

L108[12:56:16] <AD​OBO> I come for guidance on TIS-VS

L109[12:59:08] <Forec​aster> that might be difficult, as that mod is a niche within another niche

L110[13:00:46] <Forec​aster> oh, TIS-VS is an integration mod

L111[13:00:48] <Forec​aster> even worse

L112[13:46:17] <Forec​aster> But even with very low odds, not actually asking anything brings the chance of getting an answer right down to 0

L113[14:04:37] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonk

L114[14:04:37] <MichiBot> Crud! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Flamei​ngsoul's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 32 minutes and 31 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L115[14:04:38] <MichiBot> SpiderEveryOS's new record is 1 hour, 32 minutes and 31 seconds! SpiderEveryOS also gained 0.00154 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L116[14:15:30] <Amanda> %choose move elevator shaft or leave it where it is

L117[14:15:30] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A nearby lamp whispers "move elevator shaft" such that it's barely audible.

L118[15:21:57] <Flamei​ngsoul> %chug

L119[15:21:57] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy tan potion (New!). A tiny genie appears, gives Flameingsoul a thumbs up, and poofs away.

L120[15:22:20] <Flamei​ngsoul> i will take that as me doing good

L121[15:25:31] <Forec​aster> that depends, was that a roman genie?

L122[15:53:58] <Va​ur> %tonk

L123[15:53:58] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Va​ur! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of 1 hour, 32 minutes and 31 seconds (By 16 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L124[15:53:59] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 49 minutes and 20 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00056 (0.00028 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.01688 more points to pass Spider​EveryOS!

L125[16:47:17] <Forec​aster> It's nice to know that my carrier in E:D is safe and sound, and paid for until two years give or take

L126[16:47:31] <Forec​aster> I was pretty sure it was fine, but I had to check

L127[16:47:40] <Forec​aster> had to download a bunch of updates to do it though

L128[16:54:51] <AD​OBO> Holy crap I found a video of a workshop for OC and TIS from like 10 years ago

L129[16:54:57] <AD​OBO> This is perfect

L130[16:59:12] <Forec​aster> ugh

L131[16:59:38] <Forec​aster> I hate that Elite thinks its a good idea to just discard your controller profile when you start it without the controller connected...

L132[17:05:32] <Forec​aster> and the default controller settings are terrible

L133[17:15:59] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> that depends, was that a roman genie?

L134[17:15:59] <Flamei​ngsoul> why would that matter?

L135[17:17:43] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1769707063245.png

L136[17:29:19] <Flamei​ngsoul> huh

L137[17:29:24] <Flamei​ngsoul> im no gladiator tho

L138[17:39:13] <Forec​aster> wait what

L139[17:39:16] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1769708355935.png

L140[17:39:24] <Forec​aster> infinite life time?!

L141[17:42:00] <Forec​aster> that doesn't seem right...

L142[17:43:44] <Forec​aster> ah, it's because of the prospector limpets having infinite lifetime, it doesn't apply to the collector limpets

L143[17:43:50] <Forec​aster> but the in-game info doesn't say that

L144[17:57:44] <Forec​aster> I'm pretty sure I did the same double-take when I saw the mk1 mining limpet controller...

L145[19:06:03] <Spider​EveryOS> %tonkout

L146[19:06:03] <MichiBot> Awesome! Spider​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 1 hour, 49 minutes and 20 seconds (By 1 hour, 22 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L147[19:06:04] <MichiBot> Spider​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.31664. Position #1

L148[19:37:27] <Amanda> %choose waves; dancy or talky or no

L149[19:37:27] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: talky waves

L150[20:17:41] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?

L151[20:17:42] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I don't think I've heard of "laptopnaptime", so probably not.

L152[20:17:48] <Amanda> Liar

L153[20:19:59] <Forec​aster> you can't expect her to remember everything you ask her about

L154[20:20:05] <Forec​aster> she's got stuff to do!

L155[20:20:11] <Forec​aster> like making potions

L156[20:20:31] <Amanda> I ask her nearly daily, you'd think it'd stick in her mind

L157[20:21:29] <Forec​aster> maybe she wants to forget!

L159[20:43:30] <Va​ur> %tonk

L160[20:43:31] <MichiBot> Fudge! Va​ur! You beat Spider​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 37 minutes and 27 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L161[20:43:32] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 37 minutes and 27 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00162 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.02126 more points to pass Spider​EveryOS!

L162[20:45:34] <Forec​aster> Who is this EL-fi?

L163[21:14:48] <Forec​aster> huh, I think actually all my E:D settings were cleared

L164[21:14:57] <Forec​aster> I just realized the background music is playing

L165[21:15:03] <Forec​aster> and I always have that off

L166[21:22:41] <Amanda> Hrrrmmmm

L167[21:23:19] <Forec​aster> I know, but in space no one can hear the music, as they say

L169[21:25:44] <Forec​aster> good thing I haven't changed any settings yet

L170[21:25:57] <Forec​aster> I mean, oh no!