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L9[04:17:35] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L10[04:17:35] <MichiBot> Wah! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 13 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L11[04:17:36] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 13 minutes and 8 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00522 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L13[06:18:59] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip
L14[06:18:59] <MichiBot> You drink a silent emerald potion (New!). Spider EveryOS barely manages to catch a green shell that appears in front of them! (Rem. uses: 4)
L15[06:20:06] <Spider ​EveryOS> Free shells for everybody, because they'll definitely come in handy now
L16[07:05:23] <Va​ur> %chug silent emerald potion
L17[07:05:23] <MichiBot> You drink a silent emerald potion. Vaur barely manages to catch a green shell that appears in front of them! (Rem. uses: 3)
L18[07:05:32] <Va​ur> probably wont get to use it
L19[08:39:00] <Forec​aster> %sip
L20[08:39:00] <MichiBot> You drink a shimmering strawberry potion (New!). Forecaster gains the ability to summon safety pins until they steal the concept of stealing.
L21[09:04:09] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip
L22[09:04:09] <MichiBot> You drink a 5th-dimensional pearlpeas potion (New!). Dramatic music briefly plays in the distance.
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L24[09:33:32] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L25[09:33:32] <MichiBot> Wow! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 13 minutes and 8 seconds (By 2 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L26[09:33:33] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.7070028, Position #1
L27[11:32:09] <Va​ur> %chug
L28[11:32:09] <MichiBot> You drink a hexagonal sky potion (New!). Vaur's hair turn blue until the next time they hug someone.
L29[11:32:21] <Va​ur> blue hair !
L30[11:32:46] <Forec​aster> congratulations you're now a protagonist
L31[11:32:52] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L32[11:32:52] <MichiBot> Woooo! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 59 minutes and 20 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L33[11:32:53] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 59 minutes and 20 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00199)
L34[11:33:05] <Forec​aster> aw, I should have waited 40 seconds
L35[11:33:05] <Va​ur> damn, I was waiting for the 2 hours mark
L36[11:33:12] <Forec​aster> or maybe not
L37[11:33:32] <Va​ur> you are getting a shell when you are out of cooldown so ... 😄
L38[11:33:54] <Forec​aster> I hope you miss so I get to win a year
L39[11:34:14] <Forec​aster> %time
L40[11:34:14] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: 2025-Dec-31 11:34:14
L41[11:34:16] <Va​ur> Spider has a blue shell remaining
L42[11:34:31] <Va​ur> so do I
L43[11:34:36] <Forec​aster> the blue shell has a terrible transfer ratio though
L44[11:34:49] <Va​ur> %shellcount
L45[11:34:49] <MichiBot> Va​ur: You have 1 Blue Shell, 5 Red Shells, 17 Green Shells, and 2 Bricks
L46[11:35:06] <Va​ur> damn I'm loaded
L47[11:36:11] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> the blue shell has a terrible transfer ratio though
L48[11:36:11] <Va​ur> yeah but if Spider hit that, given that I'm right behind you ... 😄
L49[11:36:39] <Forec​aster> I also have a blue shell :>
L50[11:39:22] <Va​ur> then we'll be at equal amont 😄
L51[11:39:30] <Va​ur> and you'll protect me
L52[11:42:28] <Izzy> I made a thing https://vid.shadowkat.net/w/fVsqtwEVNiDzcHRYNRqSzY
L53[12:12:29] * Amanda meows and looks around
L54[12:12:38] * Amanda orders MichiBot some %soup
L55[12:12:39] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!! Theres a blackmail folder of catboi Inari in my soup!
L56[12:12:47] <Amanda> nooo, the photos!
L57[14:08:39] <Forec​aster> %time
L58[14:08:39] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: 2025-Dec-31 14:08:39
L59[14:09:03] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L60[14:09:03] <MichiBot> Woooo! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 59 minutes and 20 seconds (By 36 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L61[14:09:04] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 36 minutes and 10 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00061 x 2 = 0.00122)
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L67[15:04:20] <Va​ur> %blueshell Forecaster
L68[15:04:20] <MichiBot> Va​ur: You hit Forecaster! They lost 0.00517318 tonk points which you gain! Congratulations! Position #2 Need 0.01551955 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L69[15:15:43] <Redston​eParkour> %shellcount
L70[15:15:43] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour: You have 0 Blue Shells, 11 Red Shells, 8 Green Shells, and 2 Bricks
L71[15:19:32] <Corded> > <Mich​iBot> Redston​eParkour: You have 0 Blue Shells, 11 Red Shells, 8 …
L72[15:19:32] <Va​ur> https://tenor.com/view/whos-feeling-lucky-leo-pap-giancarlo-esposito-kaleidoscope-yellow-gif-8822237103570106240
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L74[16:06:01] <Amanda> stephan48: do you know if older kubectl can talk to newer kube?
L75[16:07:48] <Amanda> stephan48: Cause I'm stuck on kubectl 1.34 because I'm hitting https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/issues/135858 when updating using my cli tool updater pretty consistantly so I didn't want to update my k3s cluster to 1.35 and risk losing admin
L76[16:07:49] <MichiBot> Title: Unable to verify cosign signature for kubectl 1.35.0 on amd64 | Posted by: nicholasdille | Posted: Fri Dec 19 21:11:50 UTC 2025 | Status: open
L77[16:11:41] <stephan48> theoretically yes
L78[16:11:48] <stephan48> one minor up and down is guaranteed
L79[16:11:57] <stephan48> more is... probably works but dragons
L80[16:13:16] <Amanda> one is fine. hopefully they fix that cosign issue soon
L81[16:16:21] <Va​ur> %chug
L82[16:16:21] <MichiBot> You drink a forked aluminium potion (New!). Vaur turns into a sloth golem boy for 4 hours.
L83[16:28:29] <Corded> > <Mich​iBot> Va​ur: You hit Forecaster! They lost 0.00517318 tonk points…
L84[16:28:30] <Spider ​EveryOS> Thanks, but now I can't target Forecaster. Guess I'm not getting the good spot this year.
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L86[17:07:24] <Amanda> %remindme 2h check if CI's done
L87[17:07:24] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check if CI's done" in 2h at 12/31/2025 07:07:24 PM
L88[17:09:13] <Corded> > <Spider ​EveryOS> Thanks, but now I can't target Forecaster. Guess I'm not ge…
L89[17:09:13] <Va​ur> yeah ... I may have chosen poorly, I was intending on letting you shell then I would have endedon top or near the top
L90[17:09:35] <Va​ur> I also avoided tonking so Forecaster could stay in front
L91[17:09:47] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L92[17:09:47] <MichiBot> Crud! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 36 minutes and 10 seconds (By 24 minutes and 33 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L93[17:09:48] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 2.69231008. Position #2 Need 0.00951955 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L94[17:11:13] <Corded> > <Va​ur> yeah ... I may have chosen poorly, I was intending on letti…
L95[17:11:13] <Spider ​EveryOS> Well thanks still (:
L96[17:13:04] <Va​ur> I think, part from me getting hit with a shell, we are pretty much locked for the final ranks
L97[17:14:29] <Spider ​EveryOS> Well I was trying to get first, but I'll be nice and let you keep second, unless somebody from lower ranks shells me last second
L98[17:14:55] <Va​ur> I'm a better target for shelling anyway
L99[17:16:04] <Spider ​EveryOS> Don't let me forget to remove the space from my username after the reset. Not sure if I plan to be as active or not at tonk next year, I suppose I'll decide tomorrow
L100[17:16:11] <Spider ​EveryOS> * per-server username after the reset. Not sure if I plan to be as active or not at tonk next year, I suppose I'll decide tomorrow
L101[17:16:21] <Va​ur> will do
L102[17:17:10] <Va​ur> what I dont like about shells is how unfair they can be
L103[17:17:38] <Va​ur> like, you can be first all year long and someone from the bottom row just dethrone at the last time
L104[17:17:59] <Spider ​EveryOS> I would have removed the space a couple of months ago, but didn't want to reset my place
L105[17:17:59] <Spider ​EveryOS> My unfair advantage was never intentional
L106[17:18:07] <Va​ur> its why I wasn't as active in the later part of the year, cause I knew I could catch up with shells
L107[17:18:38] <Forec​aster> but if it wasn't for that there'd be no point in participating if you haven't done it all year
L108[17:18:49] <Corded> > <Va​ur> its why I wasn't as active in the later part of the year, c…
L109[17:18:49] <Spider ​EveryOS> Isn't there a name for that? Sandbagging or something?
L110[17:18:55] <Forec​aster> also we can transfer points between names, so changing name isn't an issue
L111[17:19:58] <Va​ur> yeah but it isn't just catching up, it also kneecap the one who did
L112[17:20:54] <Spider ​EveryOS> Oh, I didn't even think of that
L113[17:20:57] <Va​ur> who did do it all year*
L114[17:22:17] <Forec​aster> well yes, but that's part of the game
L115[17:22:29] <Forec​aster> you might not want to be in first because it's dangerous
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L117[17:23:18] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L118[17:24:32] <Forec​aster> I could make it disable sniping within x days of the new year
L119[17:25:07] <Forec​aster> say the final 7 days
L120[17:25:17] <Forec​aster> I should also make the reset be automatic
L121[17:27:19] <Forec​aster> hm, maybe at that time remaining shells could be converted into points, is an idea...
L122[17:27:57] <Forec​aster> well, at the reset, and only if you're already on the scoreboard
L123[17:28:20] <Spider ​EveryOS> I like that idea
L124[17:29:00] <Spider ​EveryOS> Also, maybe give a warning about doing a first tonk when you have a space in your name?
L125[17:30:47] <Forec​aster> I mean, that's mainly on the players to keep track of that 😛
L126[17:31:28] <Forec​aster> the main issue I think is that the system allows sniping players that don't exist
L127[17:31:47] <Forec​aster> if I do some work on the bot I should fix that as well
L128[17:33:13] <Forec​aster> and it should also strip ZWS from the inputs
L129[17:34:26] <Spider ​EveryOS> Is it smart enough to distinguish pings from plaintext names? I suppose since it runs on the IRC side, probably not
L130[17:35:42] <Forec​aster> what the bot sees looks the same as what irc users see
L131[17:36:11] <Forec​aster> the bridge bot converts pings into plaintext
L132[17:36:25] <Spider ​EveryOS> Oh, ok, that's convenient
L133[17:36:44] <Spider ​EveryOS> It's been forever since I joined OC via IRC
L134[17:37:05] <Forec​aster> @Spider EveryOS
L135[17:37:23] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1767202642879.png
L136[17:38:08] <Spider ​EveryOS> I mostly do tonking in this server tbh
L137[17:38:09] <Spider ​EveryOS> I sometimes (rarely) work on that OCReloaded project, and sometimes work on some OC programs I never published, but I sometimes worry I don't do enough actual OC for this server 😅
L138[17:38:24] <Corded> > <Forec​aster>
L139[17:38:24] <Spider ​EveryOS> So the bot should probably ignore the @ sign then
L140[17:38:34] <Forec​aster> it does
L141[17:38:45] <Spider ​EveryOS> Oh, cool
L142[17:39:35] <Forec​aster> %splash "@Spider EveryOS" solid blue
L143[17:39:35] <MichiBot> You fling a solid blue potion (New!) that splashes onto @Spider EveryOS. @Spider EveryOS turns into a titanium octopus until they steal the concept of stealing.
L144[17:40:16] <Forec​aster> hm, I think the tonk stuff specifically strips out @
L145[17:40:44] <Corded> > <Mich​iBot> You fling a solid blue potion (New!) that splashes onto @Sp…
L146[17:40:44] <Spider ​EveryOS> I like to transform into random creatures, I always imagine them as cute
L147[17:41:14] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable lemon potion
L148[17:41:15] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable orange potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a sky bird girl until hell celebrates midsummer.
L149[17:41:27] <Amanda> eh, lemon, orange, both come from trees.
L150[17:41:30] <Corded> > <Spider ​EveryOS> I mostly do tonking in this server tbh
L151[17:41:31] <Corded> I sometimes (rarely)…
L152[17:41:31] <Spider ​EveryOS> Do you think I do enough OC?
L153[17:41:53] <Forec​aster> every other command doesn't because nothing is persistent
L154[17:42:21] <Spider ​EveryOS> Hmm, gettiing splashed with a shell granting potion is
L155[17:43:07] <Forec​aster> yeah, but that passes the name into the tonk module, and in there the @ is stripped, probably
L156[17:43:13] <Redston​eParkour> %redshell Vaur
L157[17:43:13] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour: You hit Vaur! They lost 0.15434333 tonk points which you gain! Congratulations! Position #4 => #3 (Overtook Vaur) Need 0.13573015 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L158[17:43:46] <Forec​aster> oranges and lemons are both citrus fruits, which is probably more relevant that them growing on trees
L159[17:43:50] <Redston​eParkour> %sip
L160[17:43:51] <MichiBot> You drink a shaky cyan potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! It sent a message to all of RedstoneParkour's friends telling them that they love them!
L161[17:44:32] <Spider ​EveryOS> And Vaur already used their shell for the day...
L162[17:44:42] <Spider ​EveryOS> ig that seems to put me in second
L163[17:45:04] <Redston​eParkour> there's still the possibility of a point-changing potion
L164[17:45:12] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip
L165[17:45:12] <MichiBot> You drink an endless oculemon potion (New!). Spider EveryOS's bed is suddenly slightly more comfortable until they use "Nyan" in a sentence.
L166[17:45:23] <Forec​aster> pretty unlikely though
L167[17:50:16] <Forec​aster> Vaur's won the last 3 yeras...
L168[17:50:22] <Forec​aster> * years...
L169[17:50:41] <Forec​aster> can't say I'm terribly upset about him dropping a place at the last second
L170[17:55:45] <Forec​aster> great, the fireworks have started it seems
L171[17:55:58] <Forec​aster> it's 7 pm
L172[17:58:54] <Spider ​EveryOS> Huh, they do New Years fireworks where you are? Interesting. Where I am, you tune into television to see a ball drop, but they never actually really show a good view of it
L173[18:01:39] <Forec​aster> no it's individual people/families doing it
L174[18:15:25] <Corded> > <Spider ​EveryOS> I mostly do tonking in this server tbh
L175[18:15:25] <Corded> I sometimes (rarely)…
L176[18:15:25] <Re​nno> What OC programs? I dont remember yours
L177[18:18:30] <Corded> > <Re​nno> What OC programs? I dont remember yours
L178[18:18:30] <Spider ​EveryOS> As I said, they're private
L179[18:18:30] <Spider ​EveryOS> Most of my stuff is meant to work on both OC and CC anyways
L180[18:18:38] <Spider ​EveryOS> The one finished thing is <https://github.com/JasonTheKitten/gitl/tree/main&gt;
L181[18:19:00] <Spider ​EveryOS> I have some projects meant to be like cross-platform SDKs, but I always restart writing them without finishing anything
L182[18:19:25] <Spider ​EveryOS> * <https://github.com/JasonTheKitten/gitl/tree/main&gt;
L183[18:19:26] <Corded> Oh, also Funclu <https://github.com/JasonTheKitten/Funclu&gt;
L184[18:22:59] <Spider ​EveryOS> For the cross-platform SDKs, there was ccAppKit (which, despite the name, is also meant to work with OC), and Scork. ccAppKit was the newer of the two, but Scork was further along https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1767205378910.png
L185[18:23:34] <Spider ​EveryOS> It had modules like this. Build systems are painful though, which is why I never finished them, and also you know I have a tendency to start projects then drop them
L186[18:24:35] <Spider ​EveryOS> Technically this really, really old version of Webicity had OC support (though it doesn't even seem to work anymore) <https://github.com/JasonTheKitten/Webicity-Lua-OLD&gt;
L187[18:25:01] <Spider ​EveryOS> But Webicity development has been moved to Java for the longest time, and now it's dropped and replaced by a different project I'm working on in a private repo
L188[18:25:32] <Spider ​EveryOS> Then obviously you already know of OC Reloaded and how we never work on it
L189[18:26:32] <Forec​aster> I want to make a game that's similar to Screeps, but using Lua
L190[18:26:43] <Forec​aster> this has nothing to do with OC really, but it's tangental
L191[18:28:27] <Spider ​EveryOS> I, uh, played the tiniest bit of Screeps demo, purchased it, and then never played it again https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1767205707223.png
L192[18:28:39] <Spider ​EveryOS> I totally forgot I had it, I should try it out again sometime
L193[18:29:00] <Forec​aster> I played part of the tutorial recently
L194[18:44:28] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> Vaur's won the last 3 years...
L195[18:44:28] <Va​ur> I did not, you won last year
L196[18:45:47] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1767206747078.png
L197[18:45:50] <Corded> > <Spider ​EveryOS> ig that seems to put me in second
L198[18:45:50] <Va​ur> you can still get hit with a shell though 😄
L199[18:46:02] <Va​ur> was it 2024 ?
L200[18:46:16] <Va​ur> years blend together at this point
L201[18:46:23] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1767206783230.png
L202[18:46:51] <Forec​aster> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1767206811271.png
L203[18:47:06] <Corded> > <Va​ur> you can still get hit with a shell though 😄
L204[18:47:06] <Spider ​EveryOS> I mentioned that a bit earlier
L205[18:47:34] <Forec​aster> these are all -1 year, because I always do the reset after newyears
L206[18:48:39] <Va​ur> oh damn, I did win all those years
L207[18:50:20] <Spider ​EveryOS> You need to find a way to overtake Forecaster and win another year. Maintain your streak
L208[18:50:31] <Spider ​EveryOS> chaos chaos
L209[18:52:01] <Corded> > <Spider ​EveryOS> You need to find a way to overtake Forecaster and win anoth…
L210[18:52:02] <Va​ur> yeah .... I can't find a way to get 0.15 tonk points
L211[18:52:10] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip
L212[18:52:10] <MichiBot> You drink a forked caterium potion (New!). Gravity reverses for Spider EveryOS until someone turns off a lamp.
L213[18:52:45] <Va​ur> I would need to get you and Redstone shelled by someone from lower rank
L214[18:52:47] <Forec​aster> https://paste.pc-logix.com/vuyigupuvo
L215[18:53:13] <Corded> > <Va​ur> I would need to get you and Redstone shelled by someone fro…
L216[18:53:14] <Spider ​EveryOS> Oh, that's right, I forgot redstone took your spot
L217[18:53:21] <Va​ur> and I would only get second place
L218[18:53:46] <Va​ur> %tonk
L219[18:53:46] <MichiBot> Bingo! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 43 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L220[18:53:47] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 43 minutes and 58 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00173)
L221[18:53:53] <Spider ​EveryOS> Never know, you might sip and get lucky. Just spam it in #bots until they yell at you that it's not what that channel is for
L222[18:54:06] <Spider ​EveryOS> That's what I did
L223[18:54:12] <Va​ur> 30min cooldown hurt
L224[18:54:35] <Va​ur> %chug
L225[18:54:35] <MichiBot> You drink a prickly dirt potion (New!). Vaur gains knowledge about a random useless subject.
L226[18:54:57] <Va​ur> 0.15 pretty much never happens with potions 😄
L227[18:55:56] <Spider ​EveryOS> Oh that's right, it ranges between .01 and .099, right? I misremembered the range
L228[18:57:17] <Amanda> Well that's not encuraging
L229[18:57:38] <Amanda> "S.M.A.R.T. status bad, backup and replace drive"
L230[18:57:57] <Va​ur> oh yep, if that's an ssd this is bad, really bad
L231[19:00:36] <Amanda> M.2 ssd, yup
L232[19:01:02] <Amanda> And I was just saying to my friend the other day, "PNY hasn't been a problem in my NUC servers for awhile" -- now a second one is failing
L233[19:01:16] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> "S.M.A.R.T. status bad, backup and replace drive"
L234[19:01:16] <Spider ​EveryOS> At least you got a warning. I once had my main SSD die after just 6 months with no warning. It was replaced under warranty, and most of my stuff was on GitHub, but it was still really annoying for the things that weren't
L235[19:01:38] <Spider ​EveryOS> * warning (SMART thought it was still good). It was replaced under warranty, and most of my stuff was on GitHub, but it was still really annoying for the things that weren't
L236[19:02:01] * Amanda checks her finances to see if she can afford two replacement drives instead of one, just incase the AI cunts drive the ssd price up any further
L237[19:02:10] <Forec​aster> 3 hours remain
L238[19:02:27] <Forec​aster> %time
L239[19:02:27] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: 2025-Dec-31 19:02:27
L240[19:02:38] <Forec​aster> wait no, I mean 5 hours
L241[19:02:40] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> _checks her finances to see if she can afford two replaceme…
L242[19:02:40] <Spider ​EveryOS> I thought it was just the RAM prices they were driving up. Didn't we have an excess of silicon from overproduction during Covid?
L243[19:04:04] <Spider ​EveryOS> * SSD silicon from overproduction during Covid?
L244[19:04:18] <Corded> > <Spider ​EveryOS> I thought it was just the RAM prices they were driving up. …
L245[19:04:18] <Va​ur> mostly RAM but also SSD
L246[19:04:39] <Va​ur> SSD have been slower, but they have been increasing, if you plan on purchasing one, do it now
L247[19:05:12] <Va​ur> GPU are also going to increase given Nvidia stop selling the DRAM with the chip
L248[19:05:37] <Va​ur> so AIB will have to furnish those on their own
L249[19:06:05] <Va​ur> VRAM*
L250[19:06:28] <Amanda> For reference, I paid 76$ total for this same 1TB drive in september when the -c node failed.
L251[19:06:37] <Amanda> It's 127$ pre-tax now
L252[19:06:47] <Amanda> That 76 included tax
L253[19:07:24] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check if CI's done
L254[19:07:30] <Corded> > <Va​ur> SSD have been slower, but they have been increasing, if you…
L255[19:07:30] <Spider ​EveryOS> Well I always wanted to build a PC, and I was *so* lucky to finally get the opportunity to build it literally right before prices spiked. To think what would've happened if I had delayed at all...
L256[19:08:09] <Va​ur> yep ... I also decided to purchase my ram upgrade given the warnings I keep hearing about the price hikes
L257[19:08:15] <Va​ur> that was in early november
L258[19:08:20] <Amanda> Rather, when the -c node started flashing that same S.M.A.R.T. failure
L259[19:08:22] <Amanda> I only got around to installing it like, mid-dec
L260[19:08:33] <Va​ur> bought the kit at 175 €
L261[19:09:03] <Va​ur> that kit is now sold at 480€ or even 584€
L262[19:09:29] <Va​ur> the same kit is now more expensive than my planned CPU ...
L263[19:10:26] <Spider ​EveryOS> I got a RAM-SSD combo kit because it was cheaper than the RAM alone
L264[19:10:27] <Spider ​EveryOS> I already had the spare warranty replacement SSD (which was unused because I was worried about it bricking itself again). But since getting a RAM-SSD combo was somehow cheaper than just the RAM alone, I did that
L265[19:10:27] <Spider ​EveryOS> I still used the untrustworthy SSD as my main since it has a higher capacity, hopefully I don't regret that
L266[19:11:00] <Va​ur> keep a good backup policy and you should be fine
L267[19:12:10] <Corded> > <Va​ur> bought the kit at 175 €
L268[19:12:10] <Spider ​EveryOS> Did you go 64 gigs or something? It says online that's about $200 USD. My RAM-SSD combo was cheaper than that so...
L269[19:12:20] <Forec​aster> Asus is apparently going to start making more ram to counter the shortage
L270[19:12:23] <Spider ​EveryOS> * your RAM alone so...
L271[19:12:29] <Va​ur> 32GB at CL 30
L272[19:12:41] <Mic​hiyo> I just bought 128GB of DDR4... Almost $900 now
L273[19:12:42] <Va​ur> but prices were already slowly climbing
L274[19:13:14] <Spider ​EveryOS> Ah. I got mine in late October, so maybe I beat the climb if there was a slow climb before the sudden jump
L275[19:13:45] <Va​ur> yeah mid october is when it started climbing
L276[19:14:13] <Va​ur> oh also those prices include VAT
L277[19:14:25] <Spider ​EveryOS> Also yours does have a slightly lower CL
L278[19:14:26] <Spider ​EveryOS> But I just found it so cool I got a kit including SSD for cheaper than standalone RAM
L279[19:14:37] <Spider ​EveryOS> * a bonus SSD for cheaper than standalone RAM
L280[19:14:56] <Amanda> Damn, estimates delivery the 7th
L281[19:14:56] <Va​ur> yeah I targeted low CL
L282[19:15:50] <Amanda> CL?
L283[19:16:18] <Va​ur> CAS Latency
L284[19:16:25] <Spider ​EveryOS> Well I bought the RAM with a different build combo in mind (where it would not have made a difference), but switched last second for various reasons. I bought the RAM/SSD kit before everything else so couldn't change that
L285[19:16:41] <Va​ur> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency
L286[19:16:48] <Spider ​EveryOS> I got an absolute monster of a processor. Can do a full component build of Chromium in 1.5 hours
L287[19:17:31] <Va​ur> basicly "how fast" can your ram react to data
L288[19:17:57] <Va​ur> lower number is better
L289[19:18:03] <Amanda> I see
L290[19:18:14] <Amanda> Hardware is very much not my wheelhouse
L291[19:20:03] <Va​ur> for ram there is 3 key point that differenciate each sets, capacity, data rates and CAS latency, the last one is often neglected
L292[19:20:19] <Va​ur> (assuming same generation)
L293[19:20:22] <Spider ​EveryOS> It took me like 6 hours to build my PC, because I hadn't built a PC before, and also the header for power-related IO is so confusing so I had multiple issues there.
L294[19:20:22] <Spider ​EveryOS> On my first attempt at boot, there was no sign of life and my heart sunk. But it turns out I just miswired the power button and everything else I did correctly beyond that.
L295[19:20:22] <Spider ​EveryOS> (The 6 hours does not include OS install time and software installation, you know how that is. That was spread over the next couple days)
L296[19:21:23] <Va​ur> I've built several computers and I have ship of theseus'd my computer
L297[19:22:26] <Spider ​EveryOS> Well until I finally managed to get an actual programming job, I didn't have the budget to do so. And since I was at college I was always a laptop user so when I did have a good budget, it was for laptops
L298[19:22:26] <Spider ​EveryOS> Even once I started my job, I still had to build security first
L299[19:23:34] <Va​ur> yep, I know the struggle, I've been there
L300[19:23:47] <Amanda> Hrm... I don't seem to have any SMART software on my nucs, so I can't easisly check what exactly the failure is, maybe it's uptime? They have been on mostly 24/7 for the last few years
L301[19:24:23] * Amanda goes to see what she needs to do to get SMART status in debian 12
L302[19:24:43] <Va​ur> I assume linux ? use smartmontools
L303[19:26:39] <Amanda> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!
L304[19:26:40] <Amanda> - NVM subsystem reliability has been degraded
L305[19:26:55] <Amanda> Power On Hours: 23,211
L306[19:29:30] <Va​ur> well, I have to officially annonce that I have opened a bottle of wine to send off 2025
L307[19:29:31] <Va​ur> cheers everyone
L308[19:33:45] <Amanda> gratz
L309[19:56:47] <Corded> > <Va​ur> well, I have to officially annonce that I have opened a bot…
L310[19:56:48] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip wine
L311[19:56:48] <MichiBot> You drink a hairy nectar potion (New!). A warp zone opens up next to Spider EveryOS. (Use %warp to jump in)
L312[19:56:52] <Spider ​EveryOS> Congrats to you
L313[19:56:58] <Spider ​EveryOS> also %warp
L314[19:56:58] <MichiBot> You end up at the location of a great treasure. The treasure of friendship!
L315[20:20:49] <Va​ur> %chug
L316[20:20:49] <MichiBot> You drink a safe coral potion (New!). The sun turns into a giant baby face for a second. It's horrific.
L317[20:24:23] <Corded> > <Spider ​EveryOS> The one finished thing is <https://github.com/JasonTheKitte���
L318[20:24:23] <Re​nno> Funclu reminds me of Racket
L319[20:25:24] <Spider ​EveryOS> I'll check out Racket later
L320[20:46:04] <Amanda> %choose halucinate about $; girlkissers or good doggos
L321[20:46:04] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: halucinate about girlkissers
L322[20:46:14] <Amanda> Hrm...
L323[21:18:37] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L324[21:18:37] <MichiBot> Shoot! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 1 hour, 43 minutes and 58 seconds (By 40 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L325[21:18:38] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 2.70532962. Position #1
L326[21:59:49] <Va​ur> %tonk
L327[21:59:49] <MichiBot> Kapow! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 41 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L328[21:59:50] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 41 minutes and 11 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00069 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4 => #3. (Overtook RedstoneParkour) Need 0.13504015 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L329[22:18:15] <Redston​eParkour> %sip
L330[22:18:15] <MichiBot> You drink a proprietary purple potion (New!). RedstoneParkour doesn't seem to have any research points. (Rem. uses: 2)
L331[22:21:45] <Va​ur> %chug
L332[22:21:46] <MichiBot> You drink a crunchy red potion (New!). It sounds like someone is dragging a large metal axe along the floor nearby... Wait, now the sound is gone...
L333[22:35:39] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip proprietary purple potion
L334[22:35:40] <MichiBot> You drink a proprietary purple potion. Spider EveryOS doesn't seem to have any research points. (Rem. uses: 1)
L335[22:35:45] <Spider ​EveryOS> darn
L336[22:47:31] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L337[22:47:31] <MichiBot> Eh! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 41 minutes and 11 seconds (By 6 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L338[22:47:32] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0 tonk points! Current score: 2.53865674, Position #3 Need 0.13504015 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L339[22:50:01] <Va​ur> %chug
L340[22:56:29] <Redston​eParkour> %sip
L341[22:56:29] <MichiBot> You drink a timeless ocean potion (New!). RedstoneParkour's bones turn the color of strawberry until they find a lamp.
L342[22:57:06] <Va​ur> %chug
L343[22:57:06] <MichiBot> You drink an icy white potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! It sent a message to all of Vaur's friends telling them that they love them!
L344[22:57:20] <Va​ur> last one of the year
L345[22:57:37] <Va​ur> good news is that the virus didn't sent any message
L346[23:02:26] <Mic​hiyo> %time
L347[23:02:26] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: 2025-Dec-31 23:02:26
L348[23:11:10] <Spider ​EveryOS> Is that UTC?
L349[23:11:35] <gruetzkopf> yep
L350[23:12:17] <Spider ​EveryOS> Thanks
L351[23:12:42] <Redston​eParkour> hour left i suppose
L352[23:16:42] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip
L353[23:16:42] <MichiBot> You drink a steady coralcreep potion (New!). It tastes bitter.
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