L1[01:53:13] 
<Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL2[01:53:15] <MichiBot> Holy inverted hole
Batman! Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours,
7 minutes and 20 seconds (By 2 hours, 37 minutes and 26 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L3[01:53:16] <MichiBot> Forecaster's
new record is 4 hours, 44 minutes and 46 seconds! No points gained
for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00262 x 3 =
0.00786)
L4[03:05:13] <Lizzy> %remindme 6h stuff for
izzy
L5[03:05:17] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"stuff for izzy" in 6h at 11/18/2025 09:05:15 AM
L6[03:17:09] <Spider
EveryOS> Wow, Forecaster is being real aggressive with the
tonks now
<Spider
EveryOS> Wow, Forecaster is being real aggressive with the
tonks nowL7[03:18:26] <Forecaster> there's about a month
and a half left, and a lot of shells hanging around
<Forecaster> there's about a month
and a half left, and a lot of shells hanging aroundL8[03:18:51] <Spider
EveryOS> Most of which are yours
<Spider
EveryOS> Most of which are yoursL9[03:19:29] <Forecaster> I'm more concerned about
other peoples shells
<Forecaster> I'm more concerned about
other peoples shellsL10[03:32:14] <RedstoneParkour> %sip
<RedstoneParkour> %sipL11[03:32:15] <MichiBot> You drink a warm
pink potion (New!). RedstoneParkour feels the need to smash.
(%smash)
L12[03:36:28] *
Amanda meows and looks around
L13[03:54:49] *
Amanda orders MichiBot some %soup
L14[03:54:51] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!!
Theres exactly 68.9 megatons of TNT in my soup!
L15[03:55:05] <Amanda> Oh, I was wondering
where I left that!
L16[03:55:28] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster
with mutable iron potion
L17[03:55:30] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable iron potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster.
@Forecaster turns into a pearlpeas unicorn girl until they use
"Jeez Wat" in a sentence.
L18[03:55:54] <Forecaster> jeez wat, unicorn
again?!
<Forecaster> jeez wat, unicorn
again?!L19[03:58:04] <Amanda> I imagined it as
like an umamusame but with a unicorn horn
L20[03:58:26] <Amanda> Which would be very
inconvenient
L21[03:58:50] <Forecaster> well apparently it wore off
very quickly, weird
<Forecaster> well apparently it wore off
very quickly, weirdL22[03:59:53] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> there's about a month and a half left, and
a lot of shells …
L23[03:59:53] <Vaur> you
know, tonking as much as you want, wont save you
<Vaur> you
know, tonking as much as you want, wont save youL24[04:00:13] <Forecaster> no but it'll give me
more points!
<Forecaster> no but it'll give me
more points!L25[04:01:00] <Amanda> Huh, seems cloud
flare is having issues
L26[04:02:00] <Amanda> Lmao
L27[04:02:33] <Amanda> The cf status page
linked is... "Protected" by cf, so, ofc, it also is
down
L28[04:03:06] <RedstoneParkour> cf status works for
me
<RedstoneParkour> cf status works for
meL29[04:03:17] <RedstoneParkour> downdetector doesnt
:P
<RedstoneParkour> downdetector doesnt
:PL30[04:03:32] <Amanda> Or maybe that's
now their status page
L31[04:03:36] <Amanda> Not*
L32[04:04:04] <Forecaster> I just got a cloudflare error
in Thunderbird
<Forecaster> I just got a cloudflare error
in ThunderbirdL33[04:04:11] <Amanda> Ah, nope, it's
a "more information" link, not a status page
L34[04:05:49] <Amanda> I wish MITMaaS a
very merry fuck iff
L35[04:05:56] <Amanda> Off*
L36[04:12:23] <Vaur>
cloudflare is having a bad time yes https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1763467943555.png
<Vaur>
cloudflare is having a bad time yes https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1763467943555.pngL37[04:16:44] <Amanda> Hrrmmmm
L38[04:26:49] <Amanda> %choose try the 2.0
or keep on 1.0 for meow
L39[04:26:51] <MichiBot> Amanda:
You'll want to go with "keep on 1.0 for meow".
L40[05:22:47] ⇦
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L42[06:34:28] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL43[06:34:29] <MichiBot> You drink a
fractured green potion (New!). Forecaster's hair grows 2 times
longer until they see a unicorn.
L44[06:35:10] <Forecaster> my hair is really short right
now so that's fine
<Forecaster> my hair is really short right
now so that's fineL45[06:46:39] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL46[06:46:40] <MichiBot> Swell!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 44
minutes and 46 seconds (By 8 minutes and 39 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L47[06:46:41] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points!
plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
2.32917032, Position #1
L48[06:46:50] <Forecaster> almost forgot..
<Forecaster> almost forgot..L49[07:31:24] <Bleb1k>
Hello! I want to program my own robot but tossing a hard drive back
and forth between a robot and computer is not cool. Can I have
something like ssh connection to its screen or at least something
like sending commands? (though ssh would be better for rc
commands)
<Bleb1k>
Hello! I want to program my own robot but tossing a hard drive back
and forth between a robot and computer is not cool. Can I have
something like ssh connection to its screen or at least something
like sending commands? (though ssh would be better for rc
commands)L50[07:32:27] <Forecaster> you could program it outside
of the game if you're in singleplayer
<Forecaster> you could program it outside
of the game if you're in singleplayerL51[07:32:52] <Forecaster> there's no builtin
solution for what you've suggested @Bleb1k
<Forecaster> there's no builtin
solution for what you've suggested @Bleb1kL52[07:33:18] <Forecaster> Izzy may have a solution for
you
<Forecaster> Izzy may have a solution for
youL53[07:34:03] <Forecaster> you could also just program
directly on the robot, if you have complexity to spare for a
screen, gpu, and keyboard
<Forecaster> you could also just program
directly on the robot, if you have complexity to spare for a
screen, gpu, and keyboardL54[07:34:48] <Bleb1k>
huh? wait I didn't try the simplest thing smh
<Bleb1k>
huh? wait I didn't try the simplest thing smhL55[07:35:51] <Bleb1k> I
use APU just for assumption of making it work with remote
terminal
<Bleb1k> I
use APU just for assumption of making it work with remote
terminalL56[07:36:04] <Bleb1k> or
like if remote access requires it
<Bleb1k> or
like if remote access requires itL57[07:36:21] <Bleb1k> so
it should work
<Bleb1k> so
it should workL58[07:36:28] <Forecaster> remote terminal acts like a
screen + keyboard
<Forecaster> remote terminal acts like a
screen + keyboardL59[07:36:37] <Forecaster> it does require a gpu/apu in
the computer
<Forecaster> it does require a gpu/apu in
the computerL60[07:36:53] <Forecaster> those are for server racks
though
<Forecaster> those are for server racks
thoughL61[07:37:21] <Bleb1k>
yeah that, not for robots
<Bleb1k>
yeah that, not for robotsL62[07:37:49] <Bleb1k>
btw is there something like lsp for it (outside of the game)
<Bleb1k>
btw is there something like lsp for it (outside of the game)L63[07:38:01] <Forecaster> lps?
<Forecaster> lps?L64[07:38:06] <Bleb1k>
lsp
<Bleb1k>
lspL65[07:38:09] <Forecaster> * lsp?
<Forecaster> * lsp?L66[07:38:14] <Bleb1k> *
lsp*
<Bleb1k> *
lsp*L67[07:39:00] <Bleb1k>
basically it shows what functions are available in the scope or
what fields an object has
<Bleb1k>
basically it shows what functions are available in the scope or
what fields an object hasL68[07:39:06] <Bleb1k> in
the editor
<Bleb1k> in
the editorL69[07:39:18] <Forecaster> not that I'm aware
<Forecaster> not that I'm awareL70[07:41:47] <Bleb1k>
well there are snippets and two other https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1763480507341.png
<Bleb1k>
well there are snippets and two other https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1763480507341.pngL71[07:42:23] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL72[07:42:24] <MichiBot> Eh! Vaur! You
beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 55 minutes and
43 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L73[07:42:24] <Forecaster> 6 and 3 years ago...
<Forecaster> 6 and 3 years ago...L74[07:42:25] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 55 minutes and 43 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00093 tonk
points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.13845968 more
points to pass Spider EveryOS!
L75[07:44:33] <Bleb1k>
How do I import scripts into the game?
<Bleb1k>
How do I import scripts into the game?L76[07:45:04] <Bleb1k>
can I export filesystem out of minecraft save file?
<Bleb1k>
can I export filesystem out of minecraft save file?L77[07:46:17] <Forecaster> hardrives are stored as
folders in the world save
<Forecaster> hardrives are stored as
folders in the world saveL78[07:46:34] <Forecaster> they have the name of the
address of the harddrive
<Forecaster> they have the name of the
address of the harddriveL79[07:47:38] <Bleb1k>
thank you!
<Bleb1k>
thank you!L80[07:48:15] <Bleb1k>
now I need to understand how to interact with the bot itself, like,
give it commands etc
<Bleb1k>
now I need to understand how to interact with the bot itself, like,
give it commands etcL81[07:48:26] <Bleb1k>
ingame
<Bleb1k>
ingameL82[07:49:10] <Bleb1k> i
suppose sending messages with network card from tablet would
work
<Bleb1k> i
suppose sending messages with network card from tablet would
workL83[07:49:22] <Forecaster> it sure would
<Forecaster> it sure wouldL84[07:49:27] <Bleb1k>
now it's the deal of learning all the apis
<Bleb1k>
now it's the deal of learning all the apisL85[07:49:43] <Bleb1k>
and then beating the greg tech with it
<Bleb1k>
and then beating the greg tech with itL86[07:49:48] <Bleb1k>
:)
<Bleb1k>
:)L87[07:49:59] <Bleb1k>
not gtnh though..
<Bleb1k>
not gtnh though..L88[07:50:01] <Bleb1k>
..for now
<Bleb1k>
..for nowL89[07:53:22] *** Joins: Vexatos
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L90[07:53:22] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L91[08:38:28] <Spider
EveryOS> %sip %tonkout
<Spider
EveryOS> %sip %tonkoutL92[08:38:29] <MichiBot> You drink a
seeping purple potion (New!). Spider EveryOS's eyes turn the
color of rock for 2 moons.
L93[08:38:30] <MichiBot> Yow! Spider
EveryOS! You beat Vaur's previous record of 55 minutes and
43 seconds (By 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L94[08:38:31] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS
has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0 tonk
points! Current score: 2.29646968. Position #2 Need 0.03270064 more
points to pass Forecaster!
L95[08:38:40] <Spider
EveryOS> Oh, 0
<Spider
EveryOS> Oh, 0L96[08:39:29] <Spider
EveryOS> %greenshell Forecaster
<Spider
EveryOS> %greenshell ForecasterL97[08:39:33] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS:
You hit Forecaster! They lost 0.00981019 tonk points which you
gain! Congratulations! Position #2 Need 0.01308026 more points to
pass Forecaster!
L98[09:05:15] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER:
stuff for izzy
L99[09:05:36] <Lizzy> Well, I
miscalcuoated
L100[09:06:09] <Lizzy> %remindme 2h stuff
for izzy
L101[09:06:11] <MichiBot> I'll tell
you "stuff for izzy" in 2h at 11/18/2025 11:06:10
AM
L102[09:22:19] <Corded> > <Spider
EveryOS> Oh, 0
L103[09:22:20] <Forecaster> Tonking out with less than an
hour is kinda pointless 😆
<Forecaster> Tonking out with less than an
hour is kinda pointless 😆L104[09:33:13] ⇦
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L108[09:46:56] <Amanda> Oh wait
L109[09:46:59] <Amanda> Here I am
L110[09:47:12] <Amanda> why the fuck did
Heisenbridge recreate the channel in matrix?
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L114[10:10:36]
zsh sets mode: +o on Michiyo
L115[10:10:53] <Michiyo>
Oh, you figured it out lol
<Michiyo>
Oh, you figured it out lolL116[10:12:16] <Amanda> Yeah, for some
reason my bouncer created a whole new matrix room for #oc instead
of reusing the existing one
L117[10:16:32] <RedstoneParkour> %sip
<RedstoneParkour> %sipL118[10:16:33] <MichiBot> You drink a
still emerald potion (New!). After drinking the potion
RedstoneParkour notices a label that says "Side effects may
include giggle fits and excessive monologuing."
L119[10:16:39] <RedstoneParkour> %tonk
<RedstoneParkour> %tonkL120[10:16:40] <MichiBot> Eh!
RedstoneParkour! You beat Spider EveryOS's previous record
of <0 (By 1 hour, 38 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L121[10:16:41] <MichiBot>
RedstoneParkour's new record is 1 hour, 38 minutes and 10
seconds! RedstoneParkour also gained 0.00164 tonk points for
stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.41473 more points to pass
Vaur!
L122[10:17:28] <Amanda> %splash
@Forecaster with mutable copper potion
L123[10:17:29] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable copper potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster.
@Forecaster turns into a naqahdah dog girl until they say the word
"Doom".
L124[10:18:01] <Amanda> pupy!
L125[10:18:03] <Forecaster> Doom!
<Forecaster> Doom!L126[10:18:11] <Amanda> D: pupy go
away!
L127[10:28:26] <lunar_sam>
i lied about giving up on the wiremod zcpu https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1763490505949.png
<lunar_sam>
i lied about giving up on the wiremod zcpu https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1763490505949.pngL128[11:06:10] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER:
stuff for izzy
L129[11:14:40] <Corded> >
<MichiBot> Spider EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has
been reset…
L130[11:14:40] <Vaur>
that's probably one of the saddest tonkout that
succeeded
<Vaur>
that's probably one of the saddest tonkout that
succeededL131[11:29:44] ⇦
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L132[11:34:57] <unitazer>
didnt know that oc has an official discord
<unitazer>
didnt know that oc has an official discordL133[11:36:13] <unitazer>
will vent here when i have to read more esoteric language code
(scala) that is practically impossible to translate to a real
language (rust)
<unitazer>
will vent here when i have to read more esoteric language code
(scala) that is practically impossible to translate to a real
language (rust)L134[11:42:53] *** Joins: KindOne
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L135[11:56:44] <Forecaster> I have bad news
<Forecaster> I have bad newsL136[11:57:06] <Forecaster> All programming languages are
made up for the sole purpose of talking to rocks
<Forecaster> All programming languages are
made up for the sole purpose of talking to rocksL137[11:57:46] <Forecaster> None of them are real, only
math is real
<Forecaster> None of them are real, only
math is realL138[11:59:02] <RedstoneParkour> %tonkout
<RedstoneParkour> %tonkoutL139[11:59:03] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
RedstoneParkour! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 38
minutes and 10 seconds (By 4 minutes and 13 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L140[11:59:04] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour
has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points!
Current score: 1.74428, Position #4 Need 0.41373 more points to
pass Vaur!
L141[11:59:06] <RedstoneParkour> %sip
<RedstoneParkour> %sipL142[11:59:07] <MichiBot> You drink a
fluffy void potion (New!). RedstoneParkour grows whiskers until
someone turns off a lamp and then on again.
L143[12:00:10] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> All programming languages are made up for the
sole purpose …
L144[12:00:11] <unitazer>
i would like my rock to speak a tongue that the other parts of my
rock can understand and not require java 8 to compile 💔
<unitazer>
i would like my rock to speak a tongue that the other parts of my
rock can understand and not require java 8 to compile 💔L145[12:25:33] <Amanda> Of course, which
is why you program in Intel/AMD Microcode, right?
L146[12:29:30] <unitazer>
i program in anything that has a working lsp and syntax that doesnt
cause me to bleach my eyes
<unitazer>
i program in anything that has a working lsp and syntax that doesnt
cause me to bleach my eyesL147[12:34:54] <unitazer>
scala was made by the devil to torture us for the sin of tricking
electrons into doing math for us, it is a divine punishment to make
me guess class names because it allows you to rename them for no
good reason
<unitazer>
scala was made by the devil to torture us for the sin of tricking
electrons into doing math for us, it is a divine punishment to make
me guess class names because it allows you to rename them for no
good reasonL148[12:37:09] <unitazer>
billions of years of evolution just to devolve into having traits
with properties attached to them
<unitazer>
billions of years of evolution just to devolve into having traits
with properties attached to themL149[12:39:00] <Forecaster> I've never used
Scala
<Forecaster> I've never used
ScalaL150[12:39:14] <Forecaster> Sounds like a fun time
<Forecaster> Sounds like a fun timeL151[12:41:36] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> I've never used Scala
L152[12:41:36] <unitazer>
from the great sample size of 2 people (maybe 1 person and 1 dwarf)
i can say that anyone who has ever tried to read the oc source code
has gone insane
<unitazer>
from the great sample size of 2 people (maybe 1 person and 1 dwarf)
i can say that anyone who has ever tried to read the oc source code
has gone insaneL153[12:42:39] <fingercomp> I really
don't understand why people hate Scala so much
L154[12:43:18] <fingercomp> the source
code of OC, as long as you don't delve into asm transformers
and the node graph, reads pretty much like Java
L155[12:43:19] <CompanionCube> oh are you
doing RiiR for OC?
L156[12:43:36] <unitazer>
nope
<unitazer>
nopeL157[12:43:38] <fingercomp> very sugary
Java, granted, but it's still imperative code with classes and
OOP
L158[12:44:46] <Corded> >
<fingercomp> the source code of OC, as long as you
don't delve into asm …
L159[12:44:46] <unitazer>
just happen to be the parts i need to simulate my drone swarm
unfortunately
<unitazer>
just happen to be the parts i need to simulate my drone swarm
unfortunatelyL160[12:47:18] <unitazer>
the Object[] jumpscare is real
<unitazer>
the Object[] jumpscare is realL161[12:48:31] <fingercomp> I'm
afraid I really don't see how the two things I've
mentioned are related in any way to what you say you're trying
to do
L162[12:50:38] <Corded> >
<fingercomp> I really don't understand why people hate
Scala so much
L163[12:50:38] <unitazer>
i just dont like it because i dont want to dedicate a few days on
learning scala as a language because im never ever going to see it
again after im done since oc is seemingly the only piece of
software written in that language. also i think that minecraft mods
should be written in java because apparently some people dont
understand
<unitazer>
i just dont like it because i dont want to dedicate a few days on
learning scala as a language because im never ever going to see it
again after im done since oc is seemingly the only piece of
software written in that language. also i think that minecraft mods
should be written in java because apparently some people dont
understandL164[12:50:38] <Corded> why using a
different language from what 99% of the code base uses makes it
annoying to modify
L165[12:51:00] <unitazer>
cough cough gregtech curvy pipes
<unitazer>
cough cough gregtech curvy pipesL166[12:53:58] <unitazer>
probably shouldve just implemented proper error handling to begin
with instead of trying to write an entire program to simulate how
it *could* break in game but oh well
<unitazer>
probably shouldve just implemented proper error handling to begin
with instead of trying to write an entire program to simulate how
it *could* break in game but oh wellL167[12:56:44] <fingercomp> yes,
that's exactly the part of Scala hate I see here often that I
don't understand
L168[12:57:08] <Amanda> %remindme 5m try
again
L169[12:57:09] <MichiBot> I'll tell
you "try again" in 5m at 11/18/2025 01:02:09 PM
L170[12:57:25] <fingercomp> I don't
believe you need to dedicate several days to learning Scala if all
you need is read the mod's source code
L171[12:57:57] <unitazer>
i just dont like that there are no ; line terminators man 🙏
<unitazer>
i just dont like that there are no ; line terminators man 🙏L172[12:58:26] <fingercomp> oh well, I
see
L173[13:00:04] <unitazer>
also it is painful to follow since i cant jump to definition
because the lsp doesnt even work since whatever version oc uses is
too old for the lsp i have and i dont want to try to compile even
older versions
<unitazer>
also it is painful to follow since i cant jump to definition
because the lsp doesnt even work since whatever version oc uses is
too old for the lsp i have and i dont want to try to compile even
older versionsL174[13:00:15] <fingercomp> why... why are
you using LSP?
L175[13:00:44] <fingercomp> for Scala the
best option is IntelliJ IDEA
L176[13:01:17] <unitazer>
im too used to my autistic text editor neovim to use intelij🙏
<unitazer>
im too used to my autistic text editor neovim to use intelij🙏L177[13:01:51] <unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881234101103890454/1428389393273458788/oh-no.gif
<unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881234101103890454/1428389393273458788/oh-no.gifL178[13:02:09] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
try again
L179[13:02:18] <unitazer>
it works well for everything except scala
<unitazer>
it works well for everything except scalaL180[13:03:11] <unitazer>
its decent for java and it doesnt start munching on swap if i have
the editor and the game open
<unitazer>
its decent for java and it doesnt start munching on swap if i have
the editor and the game openL181[13:03:18] <fingercomp> I'm a
heavy neovim user as well, but when it comes to writing in any
JVM-based language (Java, Scala, Kotlin)... their LSP servers are
utter garbage
L182[13:04:02] <unitazer>
jdtls works well enough for me
<unitazer>
jdtls works well enough for meL183[13:05:39] <fingercomp> maybe I'm
just that biased after several years of writing Java in IDEA, but
for me jdtls is just very painful to use
L184[13:05:53] <unitazer>
whats wrong with it?
<unitazer>
whats wrong with it?L185[13:06:03] <fingercomp> it keeps
crashing, things keep not working correctly, going to definition
randomly breaks
L186[13:06:47] <unitazer>
yeah it does that once in like 3 hours ish for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<unitazer>
yeah it does that once in like 3 hours ish for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯L187[13:07:01] <unitazer>
i just :LspRestart and it works
<unitazer>
i just :LspRestart and it worksL188[13:08:07] <unitazer>
gotta beat it with a stick from time to time because its in java i
guess
<unitazer>
gotta beat it with a stick from time to time because its in java i
guessL189[13:08:52] <unitazer>
also its pretty slow to start but thats not a big deal
<unitazer>
also its pretty slow to start but thats not a big dealL190[13:09:17] <fingercomp>
yeah........
L191[13:09:31] <fingercomp> you'd
think that, given that Java is much simpler than Rust, its LSP
story would be that much better
L192[13:09:33] <fingercomp> and yet
L193[13:10:24] <fingercomp> so, anyway, if
you're forcing yourself away from IDEA, I can totally
understand the frustration with Scala
L194[13:10:41] <unitazer>
./gradlew runClient also takes like 130s for me
<unitazer>
./gradlew runClient also takes like 130s for meL195[13:10:55] <Izzy> would be a little
careful with drone swarms
L196[13:10:56] <fingercomp> especially
since OC's code is structured fairly weirdly because
Forge
L197[13:11:11] <Izzy> I've crashed
servers with drone swarms
L198[13:11:21] <Corded> >
<fingercomp> especially since OC's code is structured
fairly weirdly bec…
L199[13:11:21] <unitazer>
*maybe shouldnt use forge with anything other than java..*
<unitazer>
*maybe shouldnt use forge with anything other than java..*L200[13:11:29] <Corded> > <Izzy>
I've crashed servers with drone swarms
L201[13:11:29] <unitazer>
cool
<unitazer>
coolL202[13:11:32] <nadja> Amanda: The
lesbians! They are lesbianing! In microgravity!
L203[13:11:46] <Amanda> nadja: meow?
L204[13:12:16] <fingercomp> @unitazer
FWIW, I do agree that Java is a better option for modding
L205[13:12:20] <Izzy> You have my
attention
L206[13:12:29] <unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029723495577419859/1414328448767234219/3dgifmaker89637.gif
<unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029723495577419859/1414328448767234219/3dgifmaker89637.gifL207[13:12:40] <nadja> Izzy: yes how *are*
your lesbians doing actually?
L208[13:12:51] *
Izzy cries
L209[13:13:07] <Izzy> Been too busy
engaging in praxis to write theory
L210[13:13:23] <nadja> I see :p
L211[13:15:37] <Corded> >
<unitazer> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029723495577419859/���
L212[13:15:37] <unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881234101103890454/1405083631088570439/maruwuin.gif
<unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881234101103890454/1405083631088570439/maruwuin.gifL213[13:16:16] <unitazer>
also the machines running on a separate clock from game ticks is a
little 😔 but thats not scala to blame
<unitazer>
also the machines running on a separate clock from game ticks is a
little 😔 but thats not scala to blameL214[13:17:05] <nadja> Amanda: Book.
Contains an adequate amount of lesbians being lesbians. And also
microgravity, I guess.
L215[13:17:16] <Amanda> nadja: what
book?
L216[13:17:18] <Izzy> nadja: I will say
that the outline is getting more detailed :3
L217[13:17:39] <nadja> Amanda: If you mean
name then dunno, haven't decided yet.
L218[13:17:48] <nadja> Izzy: oh, very good
:3
L219[13:17:49] <unitazer>
only crazy people surrounding this mod
<unitazer>
only crazy people surrounding this modL220[13:17:49] <Amanda> ah, you're
writing it!
L221[13:18:00] <Izzy> I now have a
concrete inciting incident that is also a thinly veiled historical
allegory
L222[13:18:17] <nadja> To the crashening
or to the lesbianing?
L223[13:18:25] <nadja> Because I thought
you had one for the former already
L224[13:18:30] <Izzy> Crashening
L225[13:18:43] <Izzy> or rather uhhh
L226[13:18:50] <Corded> >
<nadja> Amanda: The lesbians! They are lesbianing! In
microgravity!
L227[13:18:50] <unitazer>
its either the second coming of the unabomber writing in lua for 3
years to dunk on people in any event that has oc in it or lesbians
lesbianing in microgravity
<unitazer>
its either the second coming of the unabomber writing in lua for 3
years to dunk on people in any event that has oc in it or lesbians
lesbianing in microgravityL228[13:19:10] <nadja> Wasn't that
because the life support systems were written in js and the
.node_modules folder grew too big and broke everything?
L229[13:19:30] <Izzy> that's the root
cause
L230[13:19:45] <fingercomp> @unitazer most
of the mod's complexity comes from its being a Forge mod and
using native Lua, not Scala
L231[13:20:09] <Izzy> but the actual
inciting incident of the Story™ is now planned out more or
less
L232[13:20:18] <nadja> Ooooh, fun!
L233[13:20:32] <Izzy> And yes it's
something I'm still mad about despite it happening 25+ years
before I was born
L234[13:20:40] <Corded> >
<fingercomp> @unitazer most of the mod's complexity
comes from its being…
L235[13:20:41] <unitazer>
you can only go so far without looking for bugs in the code, and
the code is in scala..
<unitazer>
you can only go so far without looking for bugs in the code, and
the code is in scala..L236[13:21:09] <unitazer>
lua is the easy part
<unitazer>
lua is the easy partL237[13:21:17] <Izzy> unitazer: god forbid
people talk on IRC huh
L238[13:21:28] <unitazer>
real
<unitazer>
realL239[13:21:30] <Izzy> god forbid women do
anything smh
L240[13:21:30] <nadja> Izzy: And I get to
have fun calculating orbital mechanics! And relativity. So much
relativity being a major pain in the ass.
L241[13:21:58] <Izzy> Maths, my
beloathed
L242[13:23:06] <unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881234101103890454/1417171151922401322/3dgifmaker07686.gif
<unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881234101103890454/1417171151922401322/3dgifmaker07686.gifL243[13:23:59] <Izzy> > This content is
no longer available.
L244[13:25:00] <Corded> >
<unitazer> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881234101103890454/1���
L245[13:25:00] <unitazer>
everything on the lua side wouldve been so much easier if you could
check if any messages are in the signal queue but other than that
oc is basically perfect for terrorising modded servers
<unitazer>
everything on the lua side wouldve been so much easier if you could
check if any messages are in the signal queue but other than that
oc is basically perfect for terrorising modded serversL246[13:25:36] <Corded> > <Izzy>
> This content is no longer available.
L247[13:25:37] <unitazer>
is the wonderful gif of a cat on an oc drone dead? works on my
machine™ somehow
<unitazer>
is the wonderful gif of a cat on an oc drone dead? works on my
machine™ somehowL248[13:26:01] <nadja> Also I changed to
writing in Obsidian and it's *so good*. All the info is in the
same place and I can do stupid fun stuff like plotting orbitals in
the wiki pages or have a calendar telling me all the moons'
phases for any given day / scene :3
L249[13:27:57] <Izzy> zim is neat for that
:3
L250[13:28:12] <nadja> The latter's
only useful for the planetbound story though, the space one has …
other problems.
L251[13:28:32] <Izzy> well, having info in
one place, anyway
L252[13:29:09] <nadja> Yeah zim's
cool but it's not that good for having fancy stuff ^^
L253[13:29:34] <Izzy> Mmm, probably
L254[13:29:47] <Izzy> I need to work out a
way to write when I'm out
L255[13:29:56] <Izzy> My laptop is too big
for my handbag...
L256[13:30:44] <Izzy> Maybe time to dig
the S10e back out
L257[13:31:03] <nadja> I should get a
small keyboard for my phone for that ^^
L258[13:31:28] <Izzy> I do actually have a
folding bluetooth keyboard...
L259[13:31:29] <Izzy> Hmhm
L260[13:45:00] <Lizzy> nadja: i request
copy of said space lesbian-containing book when it's
done
L261[13:45:35] <lunar_sam>
been working all day to get the doohickey working but
<lunar_sam>
been working all day to get the doohickey working butL262[13:45:37] <lunar_sam>
now it is
<lunar_sam>
now it isL263[13:45:41] <lunar_sam>
(yippie)
<lunar_sam>
(yippie)L264[13:46:23] <nadja> Lizzy: yes
obviously
L265[13:46:27] <Lizzy> :3
L266[13:56:12] <Corded> >
<unitazer> only crazy people surrounding this mod
L267[13:56:12] <Renno>
I'm not that crazy
<Renno>
I'm not that crazyL268[13:56:42] <unitazer>
that means that you dont understand the mod enough
<unitazer>
that means that you dont understand the mod enoughL269[13:56:59] <Renno> na
I have a pretty good understanding
<Renno> na
I have a pretty good understandingL270[13:57:42] <Amanda> You have to be a
particular kind of crazy to want to do computertouching while
you're playing a game
L271[13:57:54] <Renno>
there are levels to it
<Renno>
there are levels to itL272[13:58:11] <Renno>
once you get over the peak of the crazy train it gets less
crazy
<Renno>
once you get over the peak of the crazy train it gets less
crazyL273[13:58:26] <Amanda> %choose
laptopnaptime?
L274[13:58:27] <MichiBot> Amanda:
Amanda's hair turns orange
L275[13:58:38] <Amanda> hey! I don't
wanna be an orangie!
L276[13:59:29] *
Amanda reverts her fur to black, curls up atop Lizzy with an Elfi,
loads up the story machine
L277[14:01:12] *
Lizzy pats Amanda
L278[14:01:20] <Corded> >
<Renno> there are levels to it
L279[14:01:20] <unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881234101103890454/1417243036139913276/output-onlinegiftools-ezgif.com-optimize.gif
<unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881234101103890454/1417243036139913276/output-onlinegiftools-ezgif.com-optimize.gifL280[14:01:54] <unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029723495577419859/1414326943502831768/3dgifmaker75407.gif
<unitazer>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029723495577419859/1414326943502831768/3dgifmaker75407.gifL281[14:02:02] <unitazer>
they are not levels they are circles
<unitazer>
they are not levels they are circlesL282[14:02:11] <unitazer>
and im not even close to the bottom
<unitazer>
and im not even close to the bottomL283[14:03:19] <Renno>
circles don't have bottoms though
<Renno>
circles don't have bottoms thoughL284[14:03:43] <unitazer>
good thing that hell does
<unitazer>
good thing that hell doesL285[14:04:15] <unitazer>
or whatever dante wrote before computers started to talk
<unitazer>
or whatever dante wrote before computers started to talkL286[14:24:45] <Izzy> It's kinda more
of a spiral I gather
L287[14:36:49] <Ariri> can
confirm
<Ariri> can
confirmL288[14:36:54] <Ariri> i
know a thing or two about spiraling
<Ariri> i
know a thing or two about spiralingL289[14:37:31] <Izzy> I'm aiming to
turn into a witch somewhere between here and there
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L291[16:53:51] <Izzy> okay so GPU buffers.
how do people think it would be sane to handle sub-buffers? that
is, buffers that are an area of another buffer?
L292[16:55:19] <Izzy> my thinking is that
this would be primarily useful for a windowing system making
sub-buffers out of areas on the screen BUT it could also be useful
for sufficiently buffer aware software to even embed other software
within?
L293[17:07:19] <Renno> So
you have a practical scenario for this? Im not sure I
understand
<Renno> So
you have a practical scenario for this? Im not sure I
understandL294[17:07:40] <Izzy> when you were
drawing a window that is not obstructed you'd give it a
sub-buffer of the actual screen
L295[17:20:18] <Renno> I
mean, do overlapping buffers conflict with each other?
<Renno> I
mean, do overlapping buffers conflict with each other?L296[17:23:46] <Izzy> ?.? yes?
L297[17:23:56] <Izzy> you can't have
two things occupy the same space on the same layer
L298[17:26:21] <Izzy> idk, implementation
detail maybe
L299[17:26:30] <Izzy> thinking it might be
the idea to not even specify a top-level API
L300[17:38:05] <Renno>
Couldn't remember if they conflicted or not
<Renno>
Couldn't remember if they conflicted or notL301[17:40:18] <Renno> Do
you mean running other software inside of a window that has its own
buffer separate from the windows buffer but drawn in the same
space?
<Renno> Do
you mean running other software inside of a window that has its own
buffer separate from the windows buffer but drawn in the same
space?L302[17:43:30] <Izzy> I'm talking
about a buffer object that represents an area of an actual VRAM
buffer
L303[17:43:43] <Izzy> rather than its own
actual VRAM buffer
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L305[17:57:45] <THEGLOCKTOR> hello?
L306[18:04:30] <Michiyo>
%yeshi
<Michiyo>
%yeshiL307[18:04:31] <MichiBot> Hi, welcome to
the opencomputers IRC channel/Discord server. If you just connected
from minecraft, yes this is a real chat. There are people here. You
probably have to say something more than "hi" to get a
reply though.
L308[18:10:36] <THEGLOCKTOR> nah
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L310[18:25:09] *
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does a heccen zzzearflick
L311[18:25:12] <Amanda> Night girls
L312[18:26:16] <Izzy> sleeb well
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<Forecaster> %tonkL315[19:20:13] <MichiBot> Shoot!
Forecaster! You beat RedstoneParkour's previous record of
<0 (By 7 hours, 21 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L316[19:20:14] <MichiBot>
Forecaster's new record is 7 hours, 21 minutes and 10 seconds!
Forecaster also gained 0.00735 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L318[20:33:43] <Corded> > <Izzy>
I'm talking about a buffer object that represents an area
o…
L319[20:33:43] <Renno> Oh,
I thought you had already decided on this and were trying to figure
out buffer area collision
<Renno> Oh,
I thought you had already decided on this and were trying to figure
out buffer area collisionL320[20:34:24] <Izzy> If software wants to
make intentionally overlapping sub-buffers that's not my
problem
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L326[22:34:23] <Corded> >
<unitazer> everything on the lua side wouldve been so much
easier if y…
L327[22:34:23] <RedstoneParkour> you can,
computer.pullSignal(0) returns immediately, with a signal if there
is one
<RedstoneParkour> you can,
computer.pullSignal(0) returns immediately, with a signal if there
is oneL328[22:35:57] <RedstoneParkour> atleast aiui
<RedstoneParkour> atleast aiuiL329[22:55:52] <RedstoneParkour> Izzy: any way
you're planning to get normal gpu buffers, for software that
uses those?
<RedstoneParkour> Izzy: any way
you're planning to get normal gpu buffers, for software that
uses those?L330[22:56:24] <Izzy> not really
L331[22:56:33] <Izzy> you're not
meant to use the GPU directly on PsychOS
L332[22:58:33] <Izzy> you might ask
"so why are you specifying an interface at all then?" and
the answer is because I want to use the same terminal emulator code
for both vtys and the windowing system
L333[22:58:41] <RedstoneParkour> ah
<RedstoneParkour> ahL334[22:59:05] <Izzy> there are maybe some
other places it would make sense to write to a buffer
directly
L335[22:59:26] <Izzy> but that's like
uhhh, the deskbar integrated into the window manager
L336[23:02:09] <Izzy> I'm not 100%
against software being able to write to a buffer itself _but_ it
should not be the norm; if one wants to swap out the terminal
emulator, sure, but actual applications should be well
behaved
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