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L1[00:14:07] ⇦ Quits: Hawk777 (~Hawk777@2605:1700:10aa:6600:ee80:d371:eeff:e451) (Quit: Leaving.)
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L5[00:45:31] <Redston​eParkour> %sip
L6[00:45:41] <MichiBot> You drink a chewy transparent potion (New!). RedstoneParkour feels slightly more agile.
L7[01:33:15] <Va​ur> %chug
L8[01:33:18] <MichiBot> You drink an ommitted toxictop potion (New!). Vaur hears a scream from nearby.
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L10[03:07:45] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L11[03:41:20] <Va​ur> %chug
L12[03:41:23] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy grass potion (New!). Vaur turns into a violet crocodile girl until they find a lamp.
L13[04:54:47] <Forec​aster> %tonkout time
L14[04:55:11] <Forec​aster> I think
L15[04:55:22] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 7 hours, 10 minutes and 43 seconds (By 21 minutes and 39 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L16[04:55:23] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.3102208, Position #1
L17[05:03:41] <Amanda> %give MichiBot a doctorate in applied theology
L18[05:03:48] * MichiBot accepts the doctorate in applied theology and adds it to their inventory
L19[05:03:51] * Amanda meows and looks around
L20[05:04:05] * Amanda orders MichiBot some %soup
L21[05:04:13] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!! Theres a null non-nullable value in my soup!
L22[05:04:23] <Amanda> I'm sure that's fine
L23[05:04:41] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable orange potion
L24[05:04:52] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable orange potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a pig boy until they say the word "Nyan".
L25[05:05:01] <Amanda> But... pigs don't go nyan?
L26[05:05:01] <Forec​aster> Nyan
L27[05:05:28] <Amanda> This is bullshit, I want a refund!
L28[05:18:40] <Forec​aster> but MichiBot doesn't charge for the potions
L29[05:24:04] <Amanda> SO i demand double the money as a refund!
L30[05:40:42] <Forec​aster> %choose get takeout or dig in the freezer
L31[05:40:56] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: My grandfather always told me that "get takeout" is the way to go!
L32[05:41:02] <Forec​aster> nice
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L34[05:41:21] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk
L35[05:41:25] <Redston​eParkour> %sip
L36[05:41:28] <bob> hi guys
L37[05:41:32] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy sapphire potion (New!). The potion bottle insults RedstoneParkour's haircut.
L38[05:41:33] <MichiBot> Eh! Redston​eParkour! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 46 minutes and 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L39[05:41:34] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour's new record is 46 minutes and 23 seconds! RedstoneParkour also gained 0.00077 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.41286 more points to pass Va​ur!
L40[05:41:35] <bob> how are yall doing?
L41[05:41:38] <Redston​eParkour> hi
L42[05:42:04] <bob> pretty insane you can talk on the #oc channel using the oc mod
L43[05:42:40] <Forec​aster> you can talk to any irc channel on any irc network you want
L44[05:46:08] <bob> yea
L45[05:46:09] <bob> ik
L46[05:56:05] ⇦ Quits: bob (~bob@193.143.72.248) (Remote host closed the connection)
L47[06:58:05] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip
L48[06:58:07] <MichiBot> You drink an icy grass potion (New!). Spider EveryOS's eyebrows vanish until they eat a pie.
L49[07:06:29] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L50[07:06:30] <MichiBot> Wah! Forec​aster! You beat Redston​eParkour's previous record of 46 minutes and 23 seconds (By 38 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L51[07:06:31] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 25 minutes and 3 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00064 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L52[07:15:18] <Va​ur> %chug
L53[07:15:19] <MichiBot> You drink a 2-dimensional gold potion (New!). Vaur looks confused as nothing happens.
L54[07:33:06] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster
L55[07:33:07] <MichiBot> You fling a sour titanium potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster gains the ability to see previously unseen bricks until they sneeze.
L56[08:15:25] *** Joins: Hawk777 (~Hawk777@2605:1700:10aa:6600:ab6d:91bf:cc62:4ee8) Hawk777
L57[09:22:44] <S​3> I think it's time guys
L58[09:25:26] <S​3> I might write up a new OETF document.
L59[09:29:13] <S​3> Oh man I didn't noticed the CVE announcement for OC
L60[09:30:34] <S​3> Though, in the list of subnets, I use 100.64.0.0/10 for my v4 point to point links... Not that it would ever show up on the end servers.
L61[09:34:49] <S​3> Izaya: I have plans. I'd like to bring OCR back to life.
L62[09:35:41] <S​3> I want to make it simple enough to use but based on the principles of SONET or DWDM just like originally planned, without the per byte interlacing.
L63[09:38:36] <Amanda> Izzy: timeskips ahead!
L64[09:38:36] <S​3> By per byte interlacing I'm referencing OCR's spec
L65[09:38:37] <Corded> > <Z0id​burg> Izaya: I have plans. I'd like to bring OCR back to life.
L66[09:38:37] <Redston​eParkour> as in OCR for uploading data from an OC computer to a client?
L67[09:38:53] <S​3> OCR was my network protocol back in like, 2016
L68[09:38:57] <Redston​eParkour> oh
L69[09:39:15] <Amanda> Orange Coconut Racing
L70[09:39:20] <S​3> It does high throughput data transfer by interlacing each byte for every packet "channel" in a single full sized frame
L71[09:39:26] <Redston​eParkour> was thinking about optical character recognition
L72[09:39:32] <S​3> OCRanet actually
L73[09:39:57] <S​3> I have an idea this time though...
L74[09:41:13] <S​3> Yes, we have the protocol that can work on OC/CC... (I usually write my stuff platform independent between the two)- but what if I were to make a simple addon mod that provided rack mountable OCR switching systems.
L75[09:41:49] <Redston​eParkour> uh oh
L76[09:41:57] <S​3> This means that you can create seemingly passive networks of machines
L77[09:42:25] <Redston​eParkour> would it not be better to make those switches programmable in some way?
L78[09:42:27] <S​3> It would basically be a virtual ROADM.
L79[09:42:34] <Redston​eParkour> so they can support multiple protocols
L80[09:42:55] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> would it not be better to make those switches programmable …
L81[09:42:55] <S​3> Yes! They would be, but I was thinking using a supervisor channel.
L82[09:43:33] <S​3> The idea is that you can configure them using a channel in the OCR frame. Security is maintained by configuring NNI and UNI profiles.
L83[09:43:47] <Redston​eParkour> can't normal computers do this?
L84[09:43:50] <S​3> This means that from one OC computer you could configure each and every switch
L85[09:44:05] <S​3> Yes, but I don't want to deploy servers / computers for processing of frames
L86[09:44:19] <Redston​eParkour> uCs perhaps?
L87[09:44:20] <S​3> They will be optional
L88[09:45:29] <S​3> Think of it this way. You could have you own datacenter like I've had in MC with racks, and in each rack you insert one switch. You provide very minimal parameters, and then the system entirely configures itself.
L89[09:45:59] <S​3> But yes, doing so entirely in software using Lua is doable and that code will be available.
L90[09:46:41] <S​3> If you had five bases, you could install one switch in each base and tie it into the system
L91[09:46:48] <S​3> and it will just autoprovision
L92[09:46:48] <Redston​eParkour> so these switches would be hardcoded to only OCR?
L93[09:46:55] <S​3> yep.
L94[09:47:09] <S​3> Basically, they work like a real optical switch
L95[09:47:22] <S​3> They have a configured "state"
L96[09:47:29] <S​3> which detrmines the paths everything heads
L97[09:47:33] <Redston​eParkour> would they have instant routing?
L98[09:47:36] <S​3> then you have a supervisor that can configure that state
L99[09:47:47] <S​3> Within limitations yes.
L100[09:48:01] <S​3> I mean you still have latency reading / writing frames from an OC/CC machine
L101[09:48:15] <S​3> But the switches themselves could be instant
L102[09:48:56] <Redston​eParkour> hmmm
L103[09:49:28] <S​3> The whole itdea is to make a deployable system either way, but if you install the add on mod it makes your life even easier
L104[09:49:45] <S​3> Because then you don't have to set up nodes
L105[09:51:50] <S​3> @RedstoneParkour Virtually, here's how it would kind of work: https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1763315510301.png https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1763315510807.png
L106[09:52:20] <S​3> so the idea is you deploy the nodes, and optionally switches if you want to do it that way, and then configure "channels" that create paths in the network
L107[09:53:20] <S​3> so on the right we have an add drop multiplexer
L108[09:53:33] <S​3> so the idea is that you filter channels to get path connections
L109[09:54:55] <S​3> So let's say you had a bunch of bases with friends, and you had your little data center, and maybe like some AE2 storage facility 10 kilometers away. You can set up OCR at every site, and then connect them, and then say "I want a dedicated channel from base A to the AE2 facility"
L110[09:55:12] <S​3> You could even set up two paths to the facility and make both channels, and then if one fails, it fails over
L111[09:55:20] <S​3> i.e., somebody griefs your cable
L112[09:55:45] <S​3> Not that we need high availability in Minecraft
L113[09:58:10] <S​3> The image on the left by the way makes a very good representation of such "sub network connections" I was mentioning
L114[10:00:52] <Amanda> %choose hashbrowns/
L115[10:00:53] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Is the moon full? That means you should definitely go for it!
L116[10:00:57] <Redston​eParkour> this would be for inter-site links?
L117[10:01:14] <S​3> Yep!
L118[10:01:35] <S​3> If I wanted, I could even make a little GUI for the switches in theory...
L119[10:01:41] <Redston​eParkour> and your plan is to bundle multiple network packets into one
L120[10:01:47] <S​3> Which would let you just hand code the paths, but I like the idea of "autoprovisioning"
L121[10:01:58] <S​3> yep. That's where OCR comes in
L122[10:01:59] <Redston​eParkour> wouldn't that require some sort of delay?
L123[10:02:45] <Redston​eParkour> a normal computer can only receive one network message per tick
L124[10:03:13] <S​3> Again that's where OCR frames com in 🙂 So, imagine:
L125[10:08:16] <S​3> Here we go, so here's three possible (but not limited to) configurations of OCRTU1 (OCRanet Transport Unit category 1) https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1763316496289.png
L126[10:08:43] <S​3> The sub network connections are actually the OCRDUs, category 1, 2 and 3.
L127[10:09:03] <S​3> DU stands for data unit, and that's where a packet might be for example.
L128[10:09:16] <S​3> So , imagine you're sending 8192 byte frames
L129[10:09:49] <S​3> if OCRTU1 was 8K, then OCRDU3 would be 8K - OCRTU1 header size.
L130[10:10:04] <Redston​eParkour> mhm
L131[10:10:11] <S​3> OCRDU2 would be 4K - the header size and some extra, etc.
L132[10:10:31] <Redston​eParkour> so you're sending multiple packets in one packet?
L133[10:10:34] <S​3> So, if you were using an OC machine you would be limited on maximum packet size per NNI channels
L134[10:10:36] <S​3> yep.
L135[10:10:49] <S​3> But for UNI you don't need to
L136[10:11:00] <Redston​eParkour> whats NNI/UNI?
L137[10:11:13] <S​3> NNI is network to network interface. UNI is user to network interface.
L138[10:11:44] <S​3> So, one idea is to have the addon for example have OCRTU2, which woudl be 16L
L139[10:11:49] <S​3> 16K*
L140[10:12:06] <S​3> this would allow you to transmit almost full sized OC packets to a switch
L141[10:12:19] <S​3> if you don't have the addon mod, you're limited to OCRTU1
L142[10:13:34] <S​3> So when you create your sub network paths, the idea is that you chose the amount of bandwidth you need for that path, and that will determine how the rest works.
L143[10:14:03] <S​3> if you are using purely OC, you will be limited to the maximum size of that packet, so this is why having an addon mod makes sense, allowing it to encapsulate full sized packets from multiple OC machines.
L144[10:14:37] <S​3> Otherwise you will be fragmenting things, which I have no plan to support.
L145[10:15:45] <Redston​eParkour> sooooo you're essentially saying those switches have higher bandwidth?
L146[10:15:58] <S​3> Yes, but I didn't think of it until you asked questions 😛
L147[10:16:04] <S​3> Then I was like oh shit
L148[10:16:10] <S​3> Works out nicely.
L149[10:16:30] <S​3> It won't make your computers talk faster though, just let you have larger networks with more things talking.
L150[10:17:20] <S​3> By the way this still doesn't solve the problem of addressing and things! You may not need it, but I may want to make a tiny pure Lua routing table that's modular
L151[10:17:45] <S​3> so that you could add your own protocols, such as maybe Izaya's minitel network stuff and tunnel it over OCR.
L152[10:18:20] <Redston​eParkour> hmm
L153[10:18:41] <S​3> If we did it right UNI ports don't even need OcRTU at all.
L154[10:19:08] <S​3> the switch would just encapsulate it for you and the end to end OC machines wouldn't even know they are on an OCR network. This is how it works in real life.
L155[10:22:13] <Redston​eParkour> this *could* be done (excluding zero-tick routing) by adding a way to send and receive multiple network packets in one tick
L156[10:26:00] <Hawk777> Hmmmm, a computer can only *send* one (physical, modem-API-level) packet per tick, but is it equally limited on receiving, or can it receive an unlimited number of packets into the event queue?
L157[10:26:44] <Redston​eParkour> its equally limited to receiving
L158[10:26:46] <Hawk777> If unlimited, silly idea. Aggregating packets into a larger packet for trunk transmission is pretty straightforward: each computer sends one packet per tick, the aggregator receives *all* the packets each tick and sends one big aggregate packet per tick over the trunk.
L159[10:26:49] <Redston​eParkour> iirc pulling a signal takes a tick
L160[10:26:51] <Hawk777> Hm, that’s unfortunate (and seemed non-obvious).
L161[10:27:02] <Hawk777> Really? That seems very non-obvious.
L162[10:33:20] <Hawk777> I do not think that is true: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/machine/Machine.scala#L984
L163[10:35:18] <Hawk777> If it is indeed true that you can only send one packet per tick but you can receive multiple, then disaggregating packets is problematic, but can be solved in a silly way: the disaggregator is actually a single machine connected to the trunk, plus one machine *per leaf node* connected to the trunk machine. The trunk machine receives an incoming packet and resends it on the intra-switch link, in broadcast mode. Now every leaf-facing nod
L164[10:35:19] <Hawk777> ltaneously receives a copy of the packet, from which it extracts that specific leaf’s portion and sends it on to the leaf node.
L165[10:36:08] <Redston​eParkour> yup checked as well
L166[10:36:16] <Redston​eParkour> seems like you can pull multiple signals per tick
L167[10:37:50] <Redston​eParkour> also the leaf node could be the leaf-facing node
L168[10:38:28] <Hawk777> It could, if you’re willing to (1) add the code to pay attention to only the bit of packet you care about to that node, and (2) trust that node with reading everyone else’s traffic.
L169[10:39:02] <Redston​eParkour> encryption can solve 2
L170[10:39:06] <Hawk777> So you’d have to split them up if you want the leaf node to run unmodified code that uses modem calls or if you want a security perimeter, but otherwise yes.
L171[10:39:08] <Hawk777> It could, yes.
L172[10:45:51] <S​3> I feel like at that point you're just complicating it, but it would be interesting if it could.
L173[10:46:06] <S​3> The other thing is, how often do you need large packets?
L174[10:46:24] <S​3> Even Ethernet MTU is generally limited to 1500 UNI for ISP
L175[10:46:48] <S​3> In reality, most data you'd ever want to transfer in Minecraft could be under 100 bytes
L176[10:47:32] <S​3> Which is why I think encapsulating multiple packets in the same frame is perfectly reasonable.
L177[10:49:14] <S​3> In real world DWDM systems, this frame is generally 125 us whether you have anything to send or not. I don't have to go crazy like that, but also for a computer in Minecraft you're probably only to have one application tied to the modem at a time for most purposes.
L178[10:49:32] <S​3> So at that point it's just a matter of how much bandwidth you need.
L179[10:49:50] <luna​r_sam> great now i wanna make my own CPU arch again
L180[10:49:55] <luna​r_sam> (for OC, of course)
L181[10:49:58] <S​3> Lunar Sam!@
L182[10:50:01] <S​3> It's been forever.
L183[10:51:14] <luna​r_sam> i occasionally appear
L184[10:51:26] <luna​r_sam> i'm currently writing my own game engine, just very slowly :p
L185[10:51:47] <S​3> Same, I work full time as a network engineer these days. I don't have time.
L186[10:52:18] <S​3> At least nothing like I used to.
L187[10:52:29] <luna​r_sam> i am still trying to get another job
L188[10:53:24] <S​3> Dude working is weird these days.
L189[10:53:48] <S​3> I got CIO walking around liek Steve Ballmer except instead of repeating "Developers" he's repeating "AI"
L190[10:54:09] <luna​r_sam> pain
L191[10:54:20] <S​3> Fortunately in my line of work AI doesn't have much place.
L192[10:54:55] <S​3> Especially since I mostly work with optical systems these days in long haul networks.
L193[10:55:27] <S​3> Which is why I present the thought of reviving an old protocol idea.
L194[10:55:42] <luna​r_sam> i still have not made any tsuki related thing work :v
L195[10:56:41] <luna​r_sam> i've been working on a "simple" filesystem and i've been dragging my feet on actually finishing it
L196[10:59:41] <S​3> Be careful.
L197[10:59:50] <S​3> They say making your own filesystem can lead to going insane.,
L198[11:02:25] <luna​r_sam> true....
L199[11:02:38] <luna​r_sam> but this one is supposed to be Simple
L200[11:03:22] <S​3> The simplest filesystem I ever designed was actually for a 6502.
L201[11:03:40] <luna​r_sam> huh, fair enough
L202[11:03:46] <S​3> It just had a 256 byte "taint table" which was just a buffer that told you whether or not a block was modified or free
L203[11:03:53] <S​3> no directory support
L204[11:03:56] <luna​r_sam> i never got my zealfs implementation working correctly, i could take another try at it soon-ish
L205[11:04:52] <luna​r_sam> for the current fs i'm working on, it's basically just taking some of my ideas for foxfs, but none of the variable size fields or anything like that
L206[11:05:11] <luna​r_sam> i just want something i can install modified OpenOS on with a few extra features (like tags)
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L208[11:05:28] <S​3> That would be cool.
L209[11:05:45] <S​3> Yeah I thought about a custom FS for Trotwood at one time
L210[11:05:54] ⇦ Quits: Cars (~Cars@xdsl-213-196-244-96.nc.de) (Client Quit)
L211[11:06:17] <S​3> No sense writing one if the system doesn't work in the first place though
L212[11:06:38] <luna​r_sam> true
L213[11:06:56] <luna​r_sam> i've been wanting to make it so i can ditch managed filesystems for a while :p
L214[11:07:20] <luna​r_sam> the best part about writing my own filesystem is that symlinks will actually persist
L215[11:07:22] <luna​r_sam> \o/
L216[11:07:43] <S​3> You going to go crazy and do something like ZFS, where the filesystem is just a database? 😄
L217[11:07:50] <S​3> And all of the data is just database transactions
L218[11:08:27] <luna​r_sam> nah
L219[11:09:43] <luna​r_sam> it's pretty traditional, i just split the disk into roughly 1MiB block groups, with a certain number of inodes per group that have the actual data structures allocated as needed
L220[11:10:01] <S​3> Wow that's a large size
L221[11:10:13] <S​3> Then again makes it simple
L222[11:11:54] <luna​r_sam> i didn't feel like dealing with different levels of indirect block pointers, so i just made it so there's a pointer to the first block in linked list of block pointers after the first 8 blocks
L223[11:12:33] <S​3> That sounds similar to how I did memory management on x86 once
L224[11:12:57] <S​3> On boot I would just format entire sections of RAM that I found to be contiguous into a linked list
L225[11:13:17] <S​3> Worked good for dealing with memory holes
L226[11:13:31] <S​3> Or at least, would have
L227[11:14:04] <S​3> Well, to get OC running I guess I need 1.12, which means firing up a server, I hate playing MC without a dedicated host.
L228[11:18:20] <Hawk777> Ah, my idea with the aggregator/disaggregator architecture was to provide a way to (1) pack multiple leaf computers’ packets into a single larger packet for transmission over a trunk link, (2) do so in a way that lets unmodified software using the modem API work (i.e. the aggregation/disaggregation is somewhat transparent to the leaf nodes), and (3) do so without adding an additional mod, i.e. using only capabilities already availabl
L229[11:18:21] <Hawk777> ase OC.
L230[11:18:26] <Hawk777> However, I agree the disaggregation bit is quite silly.
L231[11:22:48] <S​3> If this is possible the way you suggest, then perhaps it could be a good "fallback" feature for when switches from the addon mod aren't detected in the supervisor channel
L232[11:23:06] <S​3> As sort of a workaround
L233[11:23:36] <S​3> That way, it still works perfectly fine without, but if you install the addon and implement hardware switches it depends on the switches to do that work.
L234[11:24:09] <S​3> I also think this would work with with my simple "red fiber" mod I was working on I might pick up again.
L235[11:24:34] <S​3> That just provides a means of running long distance multi strand fiber cables that use the animal leashes like immersive engineering does
L236[11:25:06] <S​3> Got both and you have a very powerful system
L237[11:25:33] <S​3> Because now, you could have multiple switches down the same fiber cable path but splits off at some point
L238[11:25:46] <S​3> all on one cable
L239[11:33:15] <Izzy> S3: you should see what we've been doing on the serber :3
L240[11:36:03] <S​3> Oh?
L241[11:36:32] <S​3> I have not connected to this serber mentioned
L242[11:36:50] <Izzy> We've got a big OC network going in Valle Niasmor
L243[11:37:24] <S​3> Really
L244[11:37:31] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/xmpp/a411b74f-8d0d-419e-9324-1c40ab0b59cf/flPR7NEWR8uLojmC-giaZQ.jpg
L245[11:37:44] <S​3> JFC
L246[11:39:10] <S​3> if you got space on the poles for an additional new trunk line.... I would love to test OCR on something LOL
L247[11:39:26] <Izzy> https://games.shadowkat.net/Minecraft/
L248[11:39:49] <Izzy> The top wire is the inter-router network and there's 3 empty slots in each rack
L249[11:40:10] <S​3> Interesting
L250[11:41:44] <S​3> I'm assuming this is packet based?
L251[11:41:51] <S​3> or at least, packet switched I mean
L252[11:42:11] <Izzy> ie, if you wanted to run a second protocol on the same network infra you could just slap in another server
L253[11:42:14] <Izzy> Yup, Minitel
L254[11:42:17] <S​3> My whole thing with OCR is to create a circuit switched network that's dynamic
L255[11:42:21] <S​3> Yeah that's cool
L256[11:46:15] <S​3> You know @RedstoneParkour what if my addon mod had an installable card you could enable in the config that you would install in a switch that provided a point to point interface (like wireguard for example) for interconnecting minecraft servers together?
L257[11:47:00] <S​3> use some sort of key pair auth, just paste in the public keys on each end
L258[11:47:39] <Corded> > <Z0id​burg> You know @RedstoneParkour what if my addon mod had an insta…
L259[11:47:40] <Redston​eParkour> that uhhhh already exists :P
L260[11:47:46] <S​3> I know it does.
L261[11:47:51] <S​3> But this would be OCR over WAN
L262[11:47:54] <S​3> 😛
L263[11:48:02] <Redston​eParkour> lizzy has ethermesh and i've got stemvmodem
L264[11:48:28] <S​3> so you could build OCR subnetwork connections between serves using the multiplexers
L265[11:48:55] <Izzy> And I have vtunnel :3
L266[11:48:58] <S​3> Not a replacement, just an OCR specific thing
L267[11:49:07] <S​3> That is true
L268[11:49:11] <S​3> I forgot all about vtunnel
L269[11:49:30] <Izzy> Though it sounds like ethermesh is outperforming it significantly so carry on
L270[11:49:39] <Izzy> Unfortunately the ethermesh server is written in python
L271[11:49:54] <S​3> Hm
L272[11:50:04] <S​3> for the addon mod I mean it'd be Java
L273[11:50:19] <Redston​eParkour> also i remembered GERT-e exists
L274[11:50:27] <Redston​eParkour> probably spelled it wrong
L275[11:50:29] <S​3> You'd just have a physical switch you plop down and tie it into the fiber ring, and then insert the WAN card
L276[11:50:39] <Redston​eParkour> but that's also an internet bridge
L277[11:50:39] <Lizzy> Izzy: oi
L278[11:50:43] <Lizzy> i like python!
L279[11:50:45] <Izzy> I almost miss the GERT grandstanding
L280[11:50:58] <S​3> Hahaha
L281[11:51:02] <S​3> I forgot about GERT
L282[11:51:11] <S​3> MajGenRelativity I think?
L283[11:51:14] <Izzy> Lizzy: better than nodejs I guess
L284[11:51:30] <Lizzy> Izzy: *vomit* nodejs
L285[11:51:32] <Izzy> Not by much, the package management is still unhinged
L286[11:51:38] <S​3> Anyways, first goal is to get it working entirely in Lua
L287[11:51:44] <S​3> No mind addon mods for fun
L288[11:51:57] <Lizzy> Izzy: idk about nodejs, but with the python server for Ethermesh, everything is in the standard library
L289[11:52:05] <Corded> > <Z0id​burg> You know @RedstoneParkour what if my addon mod had an insta…
L290[11:52:05] <Redston​eParkour> would still be useful if it has less latency
L291[11:52:17] <Lizzy> unlike the handful of nodejs stuff i've tried to use that need a billion fucking dependencies
L292[11:53:44] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> would still be useful if it has less latency
L293[11:53:44] <S​3> Once you end up with the public Internet, latency is out of your hands, however- there's no intermediate server with my idea. You would plop down a switch on each server, and a wAN card in each,a nd just punch in the address and port and a public key from each and it's good to go, direct connection server->server.
L294[11:53:53] <S​3> So latency should be very minimal
L295[11:53:59] <S​3> since there's no "hub"
L296[11:54:17] <Corded> > <Z0id​burg> Once you end up with the public Internet, latency is out of…
L297[11:54:17] <Redston​eParkour> fyi i believe current oc internet bridges (both stemvmodem and ethermesh) add 0.4s of latency
L298[11:54:18] <S​3> It should punch through NAT as well
L299[11:54:29] <S​3> which means you could run the servers behind a firewall
L300[11:54:52] <S​3> 0.4s sounds about right
L301[11:55:11] <Redston​eParkour> although yeah thats just the ping to izzys server :P
L302[11:55:11] <Lizzy> Ethermesh does not go out of it's way to add any latency artificially
L303[11:55:13] <S​3> you are counting the latency of the modems in OC as well polling packets right?
L304[11:55:21] <Redston​eParkour> just realised
L305[12:00:26] <S​3> Yeah I think this could work. All I have to do is create some modules in Lua for crossbar switching and some sort of API, then an abstracted network interface.
L306[12:01:01] <S​3> In fact, I could just create software representations of the components of the switching system
L307[12:03:49] <Hawk777> What, what is this screenshot? There’s a mod that provides OC cables in dangly Immersive form?
L308[12:03:59] <S​3> Yes
L309[12:04:09] <S​3> It used to be called immersive cables but I think they changed it
L310[12:04:13] <Hawk777> That’s for 1.12?
L311[12:04:17] <Lizzy> Zetta Industries
L312[12:04:25] <Lizzy> and yes, 1.12
L313[12:04:28] <S​3> Oh yeah that's the really old one
L314[12:04:28] <Hawk777> Hm!
L315[12:04:30] <Hawk777> Thanks.
L316[12:04:44] <S​3> This is actually I why I started working on redfiner
L317[12:04:51] <S​3> Redfiber*
L318[12:05:10] <Izzy> Hawk777: Zetta Industr- yeah
L319[12:05:12] <S​3> Add is basically immersive engineering cables in a mod but with all the focus on cables
L320[12:07:41] <Hawk777> I use IE extensively in my 1.12 world so these would go nicely.
L321[12:08:14] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L322[12:08:15] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 25 minutes and 3 seconds (By 3 hours, 36 minutes and 41 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L323[12:08:16] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 1 minute and 44 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00361 x 2 = 0.00722)
L324[12:09:38] <Redston​eParkour> %sip
L325[12:09:40] <MichiBot> You drink an aligned iron potion (New!). The potion bottle insults RedstoneParkour's haircut.
L326[12:10:30] <S​3> I'm going to start a write up on OCR and see what people think. I will probably be the only person interested though lol
L327[12:11:05] <S​3> I might change the name since OCR had an older unfinished spec
L328[12:11:18] <S​3> Maybe OCX for open computer cross-connect
L329[12:11:37] <S​3> Or OCT for open computer transport
L330[12:16:00] <Izzy> Also S3 you mentioned filesystems earlier, the valle niasmor file server is serving from a 10M tape :3
L331[12:16:56] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> Also S3 you mentioned filesystems earlier, the valle niasmo…
L332[12:16:56] <S​3> It's that the old computronica mod thing?
L333[12:17:06] <S​3> Man I can't type on phones
L334[12:17:37] <Izzy> Yup!
L335[12:18:10] <Lizzy> speaking of tapes... i should try getting my LTO5 one working again
L336[12:18:31] <Lizzy> or rather, work out why it craps out part-way through having a tar file sent to it
L337[12:23:49] <S​3> Oh man I'm doing this
L338[12:24:20] <S​3> I can call the CLI for this thing NOS
L339[12:24:35] <S​3> For Network aware Operating System
L340[12:26:26] <S​3> Since I'll need a CLI to make the API configurable from a user
L341[12:39:59] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Lizzy: Go and Rust are similar to Node in the dependency hell regard.
L342[12:40:36] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> I tried building the Micro text editor for OC2:R and managed to do so, but ended up with a 13 MiB binary.
L343[12:40:54] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> FZF (a fuzzy file finder) was almost the same size.
L344[12:58:41] <S​3> @RedstoneParkour Here you go. Sorry, Izzy, I mentioned Minitel in my OETF draft LOL. I can remove it if you don't wnat it there.
L345[12:58:41] <S​3> https://dpaste.com/8J9FMPDCB.txt
L346[12:58:51] <S​3> See if that sounds good to you
L347[12:59:02] <S​3> I'm working on the description section under it now.
L348[13:10:17] <Lizzy> i totally forgot about OETF... me and nadja are still the only two people on the github org we set up waayyyy back in 2014
L349[13:10:29] <S​3> haha
L350[13:10:34] <S​3> Was it that long ago?
L351[13:10:40] <Lizzy> yup
L352[13:10:47] <S​3> JFC
L353[13:10:54] <Lizzy> a lot of things have happened since then
L354[13:10:58] <S​3> I'm going to be 40 in another couple years
L355[13:11:01] <S​3> wtf
L356[13:11:09] <Lizzy> i'm gonna be 30 next year....
L357[13:11:18] <Lizzy> i don't wanna
L358[13:11:43] <S​3> My wife turned 31 this year and went back to college and everyone thinks she's 18 LOL
L359[13:11:50] <S​3> It's really weird for her.
L360[13:12:32] <S​3> Not necessarily because she looks 18, but because it's somehow unfathomable to other students and staff that she's over 30.
L361[13:12:58] <Lizzy> also in 2014 i realised i was trans and came out to this very channel :D
L362[13:13:09] <Lizzy> and yet... i still haven't started on HRT
L363[13:13:27] <Lizzy> think i'll go for the queen of anxiety-induced procrastination award
L364[13:14:11] * Lizzy sighs
L365[13:14:16] <Lizzy> i really need to do that soon
L366[13:14:28] <S​3> My unwanted advice is to just be yourself and, if HRT is what you want do it, but I tell people that you can still be happy and trans without it if that's your gig.
L367[13:14:45] <Lizzy> cause the depression about not having yet done it is starting to eat at me more and more
L368[13:14:47] <S​3> Not that I am trans or anything, but some of my closest friends are.
L369[13:15:30] <S​3> Just do what makes you happy I guess is all I'm trying to say.
L370[13:15:49] <Lizzy> HRT would probably make me happy but anxiety and RSD's a bitch
L371[13:16:15] <Lizzy> *RSD being rejection-sensitive dysphoria, quite common in ADHD, which i also have...)
L372[13:17:41] <S​3> I somehow managed to grow out of my ADHD after years of no medication and having to succeed in college and in the field. I struggled with it as a kid but when I was on my own I knew I had to find ways to deal with it. Funny thing is, in the past few years, it started troubling me again, but then I realized I started drinking coffee again a
L373[13:17:41] <Corded> few years ago...
L374[13:18:01] <S​3> So I quit coffee about 2 months ago now and those problems have now gone away mostly.. go figure..
L375[13:18:28] <S​3> I was having issues where I was hallucinating when I was trying to focus on things and would just daydream off in important conversations like I always did as a kid.
L376[13:18:36] <Lizzy> i don't drink coffee, i used to drink a lot of pepsi max but i don't drink all that much these days
L377[13:19:04] <Izzy> drink water! ^-^
L378[13:19:20] <Lizzy> Izzy: i am drinking a lot more water these days
L379[13:19:30] <Lizzy> since the summer at least
L380[13:19:40] <S​3> Yeah. I've actually replaced coffee in the morning with Chicory tea or whatever you call it.
L381[13:19:52] <Izzy> I have been aiming for at least 2L a day due to ... reasons inappropriate for this channel :3
L382[13:20:02] <S​3> Heheh. Nobody's asking 😄
L383[13:20:27] <Corded> > <Li​zzy> and yet... i still haven't started on HRT
L384[13:20:27] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah I was REALLY surprised that I beat you to HRT honestly...
L385[13:20:49] <Izzy> <-- slowest to realise, fastest to do something about it
L386[13:21:03] <Lizzy> Izzy out here fucking speedrunning HRT
L387[13:21:10] <S​3> ROFL
L388[13:21:27] <Mic​hiyo> I'd socially transitioned everywhere but work like 8 7 years ago... I came out at work, got fired a month later, and said FUCK IT LET'S ROLL
L389[13:21:34] <Mic​hiyo> Legal name change, and HRT.
L390[13:21:45] <Mic​hiyo> * 7 years ago... I came out at work, got fired a month later, and said FUCK IT LET'S ROLL
L391[13:21:54] <S​3> I hope they didn't fire you because of that.
L392[13:22:10] <Mic​hiyo> .... Yeah they did basically, but nooooo they didn't.
L393[13:22:16] <Izzy> Lizzy: my levels are OVER ONE THOUSAND
L394[13:22:22] <Lizzy> Izzy: :O
L395[13:22:32] <Izzy> (this exceeds the AusPATH guidelines but nobody can stop me)
L396[13:22:34] <S​3> What happens when they go over nine thousand?
L397[13:22:43] <Izzy> you get breast cancer and die, presumably
L398[13:22:47] <Mic​hiyo> I knew my position was coming to an end, but IT was chomping at the bit to grab me.... said I checked all the boxes and everything. Then I came out, and a month later they decided they didn't need another person in IT
L399[13:23:08] <Lizzy> i should probably at least go to the doctors before the end of the year and get a blood test / checkup or something
L400[13:23:16] <Lizzy> haven't been to the doctors since 2016....
L401[13:23:32] <Izzy> it's been really weird going to the doctor every three months after not going once for like 15 years
L402[13:23:34] <Corded> > <Li​zzy> haven't been to the doctors since 2016....
L403[13:23:34] <Mic​hiyo> Still more recent than me if we're ignoring hospital visits... :P
L404[13:23:46] <Corded> > <Mic​hiyo> I knew my position was coming to an end, but IT was chompin…
L405[13:23:46] <S​3> I mean at least you had an idea. we recently lost several % of our large IT workforce where I work a couple years ago. I lost my director and my manager...
L406[13:23:50] <Mic​hiyo> My HRT appointment was telehealth lol
L407[13:23:55] <S​3> I now report directly to the CIO which is absurd.
L408[13:24:13] <Corded> > <Z0id​burg> I mean at least you had an idea. we recently lost several %…
L409[13:24:13] <Mic​hiyo> I knew the position I was end was ending, I 100% thought I'd still have a job until I suddenly didn't
L410[13:24:18] <S​3> Does anyone realize how awkward it is to put in vacation time when your boss is the CIO of over 1000 people?
L411[13:24:26] <S​3> Dumb.
L412[13:24:42] <Mic​hiyo> Seriously the head of IT was all OVER Me wanting me ASAP.
L413[13:24:52] * Lizzy hugs Michiyo
L414[13:24:52] <Mic​hiyo> And then "Hey I'm trans"... NVM
L415[13:24:58] <S​3> ...
L416[13:25:00] <Izzy> fuck em
L417[13:25:15] <S​3> Yeah honestly that might have been for the best.
L418[13:25:24] <S​3> That could have gotten toxic real fast
L419[13:25:30] <Mic​hiyo> It'd be great if I could get another job ._.
L420[13:25:32] <Izzy> suitably amused that I am now more employable
L421[13:25:35] <Corded> > <Li​zzy> _hugs Michiyo_
L422[13:25:35] <Mic​hiyo> *hugs Lizzy*
L423[13:25:52] <Mic​hiyo> I'm about out of savings to pay the rent.
L424[13:26:02] <Izzy> complication? yes. but I don't have undead school shooter vibes any more so there's that
L425[13:26:25] <Lizzy> Michiyo: ah shit :/
L426[13:26:36] <Lizzy> hopefully you're able to find something soon
L427[13:27:24] <Izzy> also I fixed this classic meme https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/f0c2.jpg
L428[13:27:58] <Mic​hiyo> 😂
L429[13:28:01] <Mic​hiyo> Love it.
L430[13:30:37] <S​3> I actually have a friend that developed late onset muscular dystrophy. They wanted to becoem trans already, but they started making that jump after that, and I guess the thought is that going through that process may actually slow down the progression of their dystrophy.
L431[13:31:19] <S​3> I don't know much about it, though.
L432[13:32:09] <Izzy> god I need to sign up for the gym
L433[13:35:02] <Mic​hiyo> I signed up for a gym... paid for months... never went ._. lol
L434[13:35:17] <Mic​hiyo> I learned you have to actually go inside and use it to see results. huh.
L435[13:35:58] <Izzy> They do classes at the local one
L436[13:36:13] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout
L437[13:36:14] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Spider ​EveryOS, you were not able to beat Forec​aster's record of 5 hours, 1 minute and 44 seconds this time. 1 hour, 27 minutes and 59 seconds were wasted! Missed by 3 hours, 33 minutes and 44 seconds!
L438[13:36:28] <Izzy> I could really use some more core strength >.< legs may be better than ever but that's only so much help
L439[13:36:39] <Lizzy> i should maybe go to the gym... but i'd want someone to go with (who could also encourage me to actually go)
L440[13:36:41] <Spider ​EveryOS> Oh, I missed the 3:08 tonk
L441[13:38:52] <S​3> We can all encourage you! From our chairs at least
L442[13:40:35] <Izzy> I would be your gym buddy if we lived close :3
L443[13:40:41] <Lizzy> :3
L444[13:40:43] <Izzy> Multiple types of encouragement~
L445[13:40:50] * Lizzy nods
L446[13:40:53] <Lizzy> indeed
L447[13:42:25] <S​3> I actually have never had a gym membership before
L448[13:42:51] <S​3> I run a small farm with my wife and that gets me exercize, albeit I injure myself form time to time...
L449[13:43:25] <S​3> Last year I slipped on the ice with water buckets I was using for the chickens and geese and all, and pulled something in my back or something
L450[13:44:08] ⇦ Quits: xal (~xal@mx1.xal.systems) (Quit: bye)
L451[13:44:28] <Forec​aster> I think your entire back got pulled, and also pushed
L452[13:44:37] ⇨ Joins: xal (~xal@mx1.xal.systems)
L453[13:44:39] <Izzy> When I worked at a nursery my bosses swore by doing Actual Exercise
L454[13:45:01] <Lizzy> somewhat wish i lived near/had friends who owned farms and stuff, so every now and then i could go help them with stuff or something
L455[13:45:11] <Lizzy> or if not a farm, some form of homestead
L456[13:45:19] <S​3> My issue I think is that I am almost 40 and I pretend like I'm still 25
L457[13:45:20] <Izzy> Their friends in similar positions (50s, working farm things, etc) that didn't do actual exercise were like, coming apart
L458[13:45:32] <Izzy> Whereas my bosses were doing fine
L459[13:45:40] <S​3> When I was 25 or so I lifted a piano into a pickup truck bed with my dad just using some 2x4s and brute strength and coordination
L460[13:45:57] <Forec​aster> I lifted a gearbox that weighed 52 kg a while ago, I couldn't get out of bed for a few days after that
L461[13:46:12] <S​3> Now I walk weird with a bag of bird feed and I'm on the couch for the day in agony, and I'm not overweight or anything,
L462[13:46:18] <Lizzy> @S3 same with me in a sesnse, except i'm nearing 30 thinking i'm still 19 and can pull all nighters with no sweat and stuff
L463[13:46:21] <S​3> I just probably shouldn't be doing it the way I do
L464[13:46:49] <S​3> Oh man. In high school I did 3 nights in a row playing Black & White for PC
L465[13:46:56] <S​3> During a school week
L466[13:47:19] <S​3> I went to bed on day three when I started to feel cold while fully dressed LOL
L467[13:47:30] <Izzy> silly Lizzy you need your beauty sleep
L468[13:47:33] <Lizzy> i remember doing 2 12-hour GMod stints one weekend during college. i probably would have gone a full 24 hours if my dad didn't come down in the night and tell me to go to bed
L469[13:47:42] <Izzy> 21:30 to 06:00
L470[13:47:57] <Lizzy> Izzy: i do end up napping a lot more these days
L471[13:48:10] <Izzy> I don't because I sleep enough ^-^
L472[13:48:33] <Lizzy> revenge procrastination recently has kept my sleep schedule a little... fucked, but normally my sleep is from midnight to 8am
L473[13:48:41] <Lizzy> or at least that's what i try to aim for
L474[13:49:08] <Izzy> No walkies before work? :(
L475[13:49:15] <Lizzy> though tomorrow i have to be at one of my work sites *by* 8am... and it's gonna take an hour to get there, so that's gonna be fun
L476[13:49:24] <Lizzy> Izzy: i walk to work
L477[13:49:38] <Izzy> hmmmmmm
L478[13:49:47] <Izzy> Not quite the same mental health benefits
L479[13:50:01] <Lizzy> well, walk to my closest work site, then get the train that's right next to it to other work sites
L480[13:50:28] <Lizzy> Izzy: i usually have a heavy backpack on with my work laptop and other misc network management stuff in, so not just my own weight
L481[13:50:48] <Izzy> yeah but it's going to work it's not relaxing
L482[13:50:58] <Lizzy> i guess
L483[13:51:15] <Lizzy> but i generally like what i'm doing at work, so not too big of a deal
L484[13:51:30] <Izzy> If I don't get my walkies I end up spinning out because I haven't had my 40 minutes of relaxation
L485[13:51:54] <Lizzy> though i need to fix up our AlwaysOn VPN stuff cause W11 fucked it up, and it's annoying to sort
L486[13:52:13] <Lizzy> When i'm going to one of our far sites, i get to relax for ~45 minutes on the train
L487[13:52:21] <Lizzy> well
L488[13:52:34] <Lizzy> as much as you can, when the train carriage occasionally swings side to side
L489[13:52:40] <Lizzy> cause the track's slightly fucked
L490[13:52:46] <Izzy> I would not call train travel relaxing in the same way :p
L491[13:52:58] <S​3> Oh interestingly enough Emily for some reason thinks Australia is on our radar of places to try moving to.
L492[13:53:08] <Izzy> Walkies are quiet :3
L493[13:53:15] <Izzy> Australia is pretty great!!
L494[13:53:23] <Corded> > <Z0id​burg> Oh interestingly enough Emily for some reason thinks Austra…
L495[13:53:23] <Mic​hiyo> Too many things that want to kill me, no thanks. :P
L496[13:53:24] <Izzy> All my friends should move here
L497[13:53:30] <Forec​aster> Australia has lots of space to walk on
L498[13:53:47] <Izzy> I'll take spiders and snakes over fascists in government
L499[13:54:32] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, but I'm like 3 hours from sneaking into Canada. They may not be perfect, but they're better then the US.
L500[13:55:10] <Izzy> Another commonwealth country ^-^ can't be too bad
L501[13:55:10] <Forec​aster> there's a lot less swimming involved to move there to be fair
L502[13:55:16] <Mic​hiyo> I... err.. mean... Legally.. um Immigrating yeah...
L503[13:55:22] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> there's a lot less swimming involved to move there to be fa…
L504[13:55:22] <Mic​hiyo> Very true.
L505[13:57:37] <Lizzy> Izzy: if australia wasn't so far away from friends in europe, i would totally consider it
L506[13:57:53] <Lizzy> i should visit australia for a holiday at some point though
L507[13:58:10] <Izzy> Solveable problem
L508[13:58:10] <Lizzy> not that i do normal 'holidays' to places...
L509[14:03:10] <Forec​aster> only abnormal holidays?
L510[14:03:50] <Izzy> irregular holidays
L511[14:03:58] <Izzy> (A year in a basement)
L512[14:04:49] <Lizzy> well, i don't go to places generally for sight-seeing and other stuff... probably more accurate to say my approach to holidays to other counties is kinda passive? like i'll probably only go somewhere if there's something i want to do there (Like Eurofurance in Germany)
L513[14:11:09] <S​3> I think I have defined the OSI model equivalent of OCR, albeit I did it upside down
L514[14:11:44] <S​3> https://dpaste.com/2MVM7XDR5.txt
L515[14:13:15] <S​3> I think it's pretty simple.
L516[14:13:24] <S​3> It's just wordy
L517[14:17:48] <Izzy> been stewing on a windowing interface https://uranus.shadowkat.net/tmp/5bfa.html
L518[14:19:47] <S​3> JFC
L519[14:19:59] <Izzy> Or rather, something general enough that it can be used for vtys or windowing or other stuff
L520[14:20:35] <S​3> Thanks everyone.
L521[14:20:39] <S​3> I just made a typo.
L522[14:20:50] <S​3> It's related to our previous conversation. See if you can find it.
L523[14:20:54] <S​3> https://paste.pc-logix.com/jubazopifa
L524[14:21:21] <S​3> I'm just glad I noticed
L525[14:23:42] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L526[14:24:00] <Mic​hiyo> Gotta make sure the transfolks get to the correct station afterall
L527[14:24:15] <Izzy> One does often find them in train stations
L528[15:03:18] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@2001:4647:af75:0:b956:b43e:3aa:e8ef) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L529[18:27:41] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout
L530[18:27:42] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Spider ​EveryOS, you were not able to beat Forec​aster's record of 5 hours, 1 minute and 44 seconds this time. 4 hours, 51 minutes and 27 seconds were wasted! Missed by 10 minutes and 16 seconds!
L531[18:27:59] <Spider ​EveryOS> Are you for real? I thought it would surely be done
L532[18:39:00] <Amanda> It would have been. In 10m16s
L533[18:49:51] * Amanda pawhugs Elfi close, meows eepily about how she wants to invent full-dive VR so she can... Play?
L534[18:50:45] <Amanda> Night girls, don't forget to help eggs hatch by convincing them to try a fem body in VR!
L535[20:10:22] <Forec​aster> %sip
L536[20:10:23] <MichiBot> You drink a warm röd potion (New!). When Forecaster brings the bottle down they see A Coralcreep colored plastic flamingo. It stares into their soul.
L537[20:34:42] <Mic​hiyo> I need a fucking android app that will let me set an 84 hour reminder... I know that's oddly specific, but my patches are 3.5 days... EVERYTHING I can find is sure we can do 72 hours! Or 96 hours! But... not arbitrary times!
L538[20:44:52] <Forec​aster> You could calculate the target time and set a reminder for it
L539[20:47:49] <Mic​hiyo> Really considering just doing 4 days...
L540[21:42:28] <Re​nno> I'm kind of regretting having not bought a 64gb ram kit a few months ago
L541[22:24:40] <Forec​aster> Or just put the time into the calculator app
L542[22:24:44] <Forec​aster> That should work
L543[22:32:59] <Izzy> same, 2x32GB would be Optimal
L544[23:16:02] ⇦ Quits: Hawk777 (~Hawk777@2605:1700:10aa:6600:ab6d:91bf:cc62:4ee8) (Quit: Leaving.)
L545[23:54:36] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L546[23:54:37] <MichiBot> Huzzah! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 1 minute and 44 seconds (By 25 minutes and 9 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L547[23:54:38] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 26 minutes and 54 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00042 x 6 = 0.00252)
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