L4[03:31:26] <MichiBot> Waiter!! Waiter!! Theres a concert ticket to the orchestra of bards following Forec​aster in my soup!

L5[03:32:37] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable nectar potion

L6[03:32:39] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable nectar potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a fairy boy until they steal the concept of stealing.

L7[03:32:46] <Amanda> !

L8[03:32:53] <Amanda> Elfi, fairy!

L9[04:26:06] <Forec​aster> D:<

L10[04:30:25] <Forec​aster> _dusts Amanda_

L14[06:07:12] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout

L15[06:07:13] <MichiBot> Kapow! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 6 hours, 15 minutes and 14 seconds (By 3 hours, 52 minutes and 32 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L16[06:07:14] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.01 tonk points! plus 0.009 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 2.100515. Position #2 Need 0.05871 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L17[06:07:33] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L18[06:07:34] <MichiBot> You drink a hexagonal citrus potion (New!). Spider EveryOS turns into a boneboo fish dog boy until they steal a lamp.

L19[06:15:55] *** Joins: doskel (~doskel@doskel.net) doskel

L20[07:36:24] <Forec​aster> %sip %tonk

L21[07:36:26] <MichiBot> You drink an included currentcorn potion (New!). A voice whispers a secret into Forecaster's ear only they can hear.

L22[07:36:27] <MichiBot> Golly! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 29 minutes and 13 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L23[07:36:28] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 29 minutes and 13 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00149 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L25[08:25:18] <Jaja ​Steele> %sip

L26[08:25:19] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable dilithium potion (New!). Jaja Steele turns into a robot boy until they steal a lamp.

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L34[09:53:36] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> @asie as the only semi-active maintainer of OC, do you know why Eris on 5.4 refuses to build?

L35[09:53:36] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> I suspect simply adding `-Wno-incompatible-pointer-types` to CFLAGS is not a good idea...

L36[09:53:44] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> 5.3 builds good and well enough, at least.

L37[09:54:03] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> @asie as the only semi-active maintainer of OC, do you know…

L38[09:54:03] <as​ie> Eris on 5.4 was never fully validated, so no

L39[09:54:05] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> Ah.

L40[09:54:06] <as​ie> it could be GCC 15 breakage

L41[09:54:28] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> ~~surely it's not as simple as "downgrade the compiler"~~

L42[09:54:33] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> (it's almost certainly not lmao)

L43[09:54:51] <as​ie> the 5.4 port was buggy, that's why I never updated it past the 5.4.x version it got stuck on

L44[09:54:53] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> ah

L45[09:54:54] <as​ie> * a little buggy, that's why I never updated it past the 5.4.x version it got stuck on

L46[09:54:58] <as​ie> and Lua 5.5 is coming very soon, too

L47[09:55:06] <as​ie> I would stick to Lua 5.3 Eris for the time being

L48[09:55:11] <as​ie> that one is very battle tested

L49[09:55:13] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> Are there any plans to support 5.5 when it comes out?

L50[09:55:22] <as​ie> OpenComputers is essentially dead

L51[09:55:30] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> "essentially" is putting it nicely

L52[09:55:43] <as​ie> I do not expect any further updates from me, I've done some semblance of LTS for years but this year I think I got exhausted of even that

L53[09:55:53] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> "If only it wasn't in Scala"™

L54[09:55:54] <as​ie> your best bet is forming an alliance around KosmosPrime's fork

L55[09:55:59] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> the whatnow

L56[09:56:15] <as​ie> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/3572

L57[09:56:39] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> Ah, it's for a similarly dead version

L58[09:56:59] <Lilyfl​owerFDL> There's probably at least eight or so forks at this point

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L61[10:39:34] <Redston​eParkour> %tonkout

L62[10:39:36] <MichiBot> Yippee! Redston​eParkour! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 1 hour, 29 minutes and 13 seconds (By 1 hour, 33 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L63[10:39:37] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.68116. Position #4 Need 0.39063 more points to pass Va​ur!

L64[10:39:39] <Redston​eParkour> %sip

L65[10:39:40] <MichiBot> You drink a safe salmon potion (New!). RedstoneParkour turns into a bird until they steal the concept of stealing.

L67[11:05:57] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L68[11:05:58] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy caterium potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! It changed Spider EveryOS's theme to one they don't like!

L69[11:07:04] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> There's probably at least eight or so forks at this point

L70[11:07:04] <Spider ​EveryOS> Could always contribute to our version the 2 days per year we work on it 🙃

L71[11:22:18] <Ocawes​ome101> 1.16.5 is a big jump at least. i would think past that it would mostly be rendering stuff / at least a much easier port than 1.12 → 1.16

L72[11:22:32] <Ocawes​ome101> granted, i know almost nothing about modding, sooooooo

L75[11:59:19] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> @Ocawesome101 One of the biggest changes was the Flattening in 1.13. 1.16.x to newer versions does have a lot of changes, but they're much easier than the flattening, especially for a majorly metadata-based mod like OC.

L76[11:59:35] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Rendering has changed a bunch though, which may be an issue.

L77[12:17:58] <Va​ur> %sip

L78[12:18:00] <MichiBot> You drink a spooned strawberry potion (New!). Vaur has a sudden desire to run around in a circle until they say the phrase "Wenk Rather".

L79[12:18:19] <Va​ur> %tonk

L80[12:18:20] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Va​ur! You beat Redston​eParkour's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 38 minutes and 43 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L81[12:18:21] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 38 minutes and 43 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00165 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.027075 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!

L82[12:18:27] <Va​ur> Wenk Rather

L83[12:42:25] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L84[12:42:27] <MichiBot> You drink a powdery transparent potion (New!). Spider EveryOS falls into a shaft and drop 3 floors!

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L90[14:06:11] <Forec​aster> %tonkout

L91[14:06:12] <MichiBot> Wut! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 1 hour, 38 minutes and 43 seconds (By 9 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L92[14:06:13] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 2.161715. Position #1

L94[14:48:51] <Corded> > <Brisingr​ Aerowing> @Ocawesome101 One of the biggest changes was the Flattening…

L95[14:48:51] <Ocawes​ome101> that matches the impression that i had.

L96[14:54:26] <ash​ley!> anyone have any ideas as to why the computer is telling me im trying to call a nil value when trying to call a function from one of my own modules?

L97[14:54:43] <ash​ley!> ive imported it at the top of the file, and afaik the module's syntax is all correct

L98[14:55:11] <ash​ley!> ive also tried adding `module_name.__index = module_name` to no luck either

L99[14:56:25] <ash​ley!> wait oops

L100[14:56:38] <ash​ley!> https://paste.pc-logix.com/atimilovon

L101[14:56:43] <ash​ley!> lemme try this lol

L102[15:00:27] <ash​ley!> yea no luck

L103[15:00:28] <ash​ley!> hmm

L104[15:03:28] <ash​ley!> oh, i've been opening and closing the singleplayer world every time i made a change to the code

L105[15:03:38] <ash​ley!> now that ive rebooted the computer itself it's giving a different error message...

L106[15:06:09] <ash​ley!> k nvm fixed it lmao

L107[15:06:20] <ash​ley!> just had to reboot the computer, rebooting the game wasnt enough

L108[15:10:42] <Izzy> libraries are cached in memory once loaded

L109[15:13:49] <Izzy> additionally, there is some level of caching in OC with bufferChanges=true that you can get around by pulling the drive and rebooting

L111[15:16:57] <khaligufzel> Hi hello everyone! IRC... I missed you!

L112[15:23:58] <khaligufzel> I started using OC a few days ago- and I don't know fully why, but it reminds me good old times playing with Amiga. But but... how are you all!?

L116[15:51:07] <Hawk777> Well, dunno how anyone else is, but I’m alright. Unfortunately, my ideas outweigh my free time…

L117[15:52:08] <Hawk777> Haven’t touched OC in far too long. Been too captivated by Create: Arcane Engineering instead.

L118[15:55:30] <khaligufzel> Hah, yeah- I always have trouble with too big scope of my projects :<

L119[15:55:52] <khaligufzel> Oh, Create is funnn

L120[15:56:59] <khaligufzel> But it's hard for me to go back to anything NOT GregTech: NH haha

L121[15:57:22] <Hawk777> I’ve never Gregged myself.

L122[15:57:24] <Izzy> Create is so cool I wish Minecraft >1.12.2 was real

L123[15:57:54] <Hawk777> I did a lot of IndustrialCraft and then I remember early on when GregTech started happening, but my impression of it was just “tech pack but painful and grindy” so I never tried.

L124[15:57:59] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk

L125[15:58:00] <MichiBot> Bingo! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 51 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L126[15:58:01] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 1 hour, 51 minutes and 47 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00186 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.05934 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L127[15:58:06] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L128[15:58:07] <MichiBot> You drink a muddy unobtanium potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind Spider EveryOS. They don't stop.

L129[15:58:34] <Izzy> I have been enjoying having my game balanced around Immersive Engineering

L130[15:58:45] <Izzy> Unfortunately the SAG mill overshadows the crusher

L131[15:59:12] <Hawk777> My previous world (before CAE) was Immersive-heavy. Really like it. And good OC support!

L132[15:59:15] <khaligufzel> Create is a lot of fun too! GregTech... it's a marathon, not a sprint. Playing current game (on and off) since April and I'm Tier 3 (out of 12?)

L133[16:00:22] <Izzy> I've been implementing a cursed HomeAssistant/SCADA system with OC controlling IE stuff :3

L134[16:00:31] <Hawk777> I am planning to do exactly the same thing :D

L135[16:01:06] <khaligufzel> Nice! Unfortunately to get to really fun stuff in OC I need... to progress more in Greg uhhhh

L136[16:01:07] <Hawk777> In my case it would be controlling Immersive Petroleum refinery tower thingy, some Immersive Technology gas and steam turbines, and a big capacitor bank.

L137[16:01:39] <Izzy> Yeah we've got the IT turbines running off IP diesel and petrol

L138[16:01:52] <Hawk777> Do you do the steam thing too?

L139[16:02:14] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/31/0e/75/310e75ca8d78242f379d9f9d9223e5f180009f5112ecafc216e91e6588a3c6bf.jpg

L140[16:02:22] <Izzy> No gas turbine (yet?l

L141[16:02:30] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/0d/cd/a6/0dcda69904784f519b4e8342a8b6c5fb5da383326c44c3ebebee10b4324210db.jpg

L142[16:02:33] <Hawk777> “yet” is the right word :)

L143[16:02:43] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/4d/dc/9b/4ddc9bc3ba76a5fd975117653b95254f30369c4947e1a46e4e385100f041e54b.png

L144[16:02:45] <khaligufzel> ohhhh that looks cool

L145[16:02:51] <Hawk777> Very nice! Mine are outdoors.

L146[16:03:02] <Hawk777> With a cooling tower as well.

L147[16:03:04] <Izzy> Actually stewing on rebuilding the building...

L148[16:03:18] <Izzy> We've got some cooling towers out the back but idk if they'll stay

L149[16:03:49] <Hawk777> Currently mine are controlled by Project Red integrated circuits hooked up to Industrial Wires control panels, but I’m not super-happy about that arrangement.

L150[16:03:54] <Hawk777> Hence wanting to OC the whole thing!

L151[16:04:00] <Izzy> Yup yup

L152[16:04:32] <Hawk777> Do you do sneaky PWM of your gas turbine?

L153[16:04:58] <Izzy> I've written a system to watch the values and activate/de-activate based on thresholds that takes plugins for I/O modules

L154[16:05:14] <Hawk777> Ah, like charge levels of capacitors or something?

L155[16:05:20] <Izzy> yup!

L156[16:05:29] <Hawk777> Yeah, I was thinking high-speed PWM while the turbine is running

L157[16:05:32] <Izzy> Redstone, tank and cap levels, etc

L158[16:06:40] <Izzy> The idea is to be able to network these systems so the power plant can check the tank levels in the refinery

L160[16:06:57] <Hawk777> I was wondering if anyone else discovered the weird thing I did. The mechanics of the turbine are: while enabled and fuelled, it increases +3 RPM per time unit (I think per tick, can’t remember for sure). While not enabled or out of fuel, it decreased by -6 RPM per time unit. However, it caps at the maximum RPM. Which means you can just get it really close to maximum RPM, then enable it for 0.666… seconds and disable it for 0.333… seco

L161[16:06:57] <Hawk777> nds, and it carries on at almost exactly the same speed, but using only 2/3 the fuel.

L162[16:07:24] <Izzy> And of course have a bigge central control system

L163[16:08:08] <Izzy> https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/3a/f5/7e/3af57e27f27aca829b8b1d6353e4495d067dc433f3669dd1da407916ec63a5e9.jpg

L164[16:08:27] <khaligufzel_> woah! So pretty :O

L165[16:08:30] <Hawk777> Nice! My village is quite a bit smaller than that.

L166[16:09:01] <khaligufzel_> On my server I can't keep up with pretty builds because others progress so fast and I'm fixated on OC haha

L167[16:09:02] <Izzy> We've got something like 17 people there now :3

L169[16:09:18] <Izzy> 17 entities, rather

L170[16:09:37] <Izzy> Some would object to being called people ;)

L171[16:09:47] <Hawk777> Mine was just me, with an occasional visitor.

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L180[18:20:10] <Corded> > <Haw​k777> nds, and it carries on at almost exactly the same speed, bu…

L181[18:20:10] <Re​nno> I noticed that if you feed the turbine enough steam it'll use it with no benefit to the output

L182[18:33:56] <Hawk777> I never got that with steam personally because two gas turbines and one steam turbine are a perfect balance. I imagine it would be the same though. Definitely does work with gas turbines.

L183[18:34:32] <Hawk777> I turn my gas turbines on and off rapidly once they reach full speed.

L185[19:00:42] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout

L186[19:00:44] <MichiBot> Kapow! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 51 minutes and 47 seconds (By 1 hour, 10 minutes and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L187[19:00:45] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.109375, Position #2 Need 0.05234 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L188[19:00:47] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L189[19:00:48] <MichiBot> You drink a redacted electrum potion (New!). The bottle turns into a cyan sling.

L194[20:46:10] *** Joins: Hawk777 (~Hawk777@216-71-199-204.dyn.novuscom.net) Hawk777

L195[22:16:57] <Corded> > <Haw​k777> I turn my gas turbines on and off rapidly once they reach f…

L196[22:16:57] <Re​nno> I might have to check that out for my server

L197[22:55:57] <Va​ur> %tonk

L198[22:55:58] <MichiBot> Yeah! Va​ur! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 55 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L199[22:55:59] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 55 minutes and 14 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00392 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.032015 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!

L200[22:57:02] <Va​ur> %sip

L201[22:57:03] <MichiBot> You drink a steady aluminium potion (New!). Vaur has a single tear roll down their cheek for some reason.

L202[22:58:11] <Jaja ​Steele> %sip

L203[22:58:13] <MichiBot> You drink a proprietary apple potion (New!). Jaja Steele: Nothing seemed to happen...

L204[23:33:27] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L205[23:33:28] <MichiBot> You drink a porous röd potion (New!). Spider EveryOS gains the ability to summon safety pins until they see a star fall.

L206[23:35:32] <Jaja ​Steele> Woah you can open a safety pin factory

L207[23:36:01] <Jaja ​Steele> just wear a blindfold to make sure it doesn't randomly collapse

L208[23:38:47] <Ar​iri> Izzy: https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1761028727431.mov