L1[01:30:45] * Amanda
meows goodnight to Elfi, fizzles into static
L2[01:31:10] <Amanda> Night girls,
don't forget to put a pull-up register on your button
input
L3[02:47:41] 
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkout
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkoutL4[02:47:42] <MichiBot> Awesome! Spider
EveryOS! You beat Little Yawn's previous record of 2 hours,
37 minutes and 53 seconds (By 11 minutes and 3 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L5[02:47:43] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk
points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 1.11966. Position #2 Need
0.01026 more points to pass CompanionCube!
L6[03:43:57] ⇦
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L7[03:43:57] ⇦
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L8[04:23:53] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL9[04:23:53] <MichiBot> Jeepers!
Forecaster! You beat Spider EveryOS's previous record of
<0 (By 1 hour, 36 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L10[04:23:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster's
new record is 1 hour, 36 minutes and 11 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.0016 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #5. Need
0.11993 more points to pass RedstoneParkour!
L11[05:24:06] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL12[05:24:06] <MichiBot> You drink a
boiling honey potion (New!). Vaur gains a negligible amount of
luck.
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(~Vexatos@p200300eaef04610096f62779df0b92af.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
Vexatos
L14[06:04:45] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L15[06:07:49] <RedstoneParkour> %tonk
<RedstoneParkour> %tonkL16[06:07:49] <MichiBot> Uh-oh!
RedstoneParkour! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 1
hour, 36 minutes and 11 seconds (By 7 minutes and 45 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L17[06:07:50] <MichiBot>
RedstoneParkour's new record is 1 hour, 43 minutes and 56
seconds! RedstoneParkour also gained 0.00026 (0.00013 x 2) tonk
points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.08474 more points
to pass Vaur!
L18[06:07:52] <RedstoneParkour> %sip
<RedstoneParkour> %sipL19[06:07:52] <MichiBot> You drink a square
quicksilver potion (New!). A tiny cloud appears with a ridiculous
smile on it. It follows RedstoneParkour until they steal the
concept of stealing.
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(samis@thonk.9net.org) CompanionCube
L21[07:06:23] <CompanionCube> lol auto
reconnect got stuck on an expired ssl cert, i wonder if they really
missed it or i was unlucky?
L22[07:18:44] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L23[07:18:45] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat RedstoneParkour's
record of 1 hour, 43 minutes and 56 seconds this time. 1 hour, 10
minutes and 55 seconds were wasted! Missed by 33 minutes!
L24[07:18:55] <CompanionCube> %drink
L25[07:19:05] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy
unobtanium potion (New!). The bottle turns into a water
trident.
L26[07:34:27] <Renno>
When a modem message is sent, is it queued up somewhere in the
servers memory until the device or devices it's set to reach
pick it up with an event pull?
<Renno>
When a modem message is sent, is it queued up somewhere in the
servers memory until the device or devices it's set to reach
pick it up with an event pull?L27[07:34:50] <Forecaster> there is an event queue
yes
<Forecaster> there is an event queue
yesL28[07:35:05] <Renno> How
long does it stay in the queue before it's discarded?
<Renno> How
long does it stay in the queue before it's discarded?L29[07:36:06] <Forecaster> iirc there is no time limit,
but the queue has a max size
<Forecaster> iirc there is no time limit,
but the queue has a max sizeL30[07:36:19] <Forecaster> if new events come in and its
full the oldest one is discarded
<Forecaster> if new events come in and its
full the oldest one is discardedL31[07:36:29] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL32[07:36:30] <MichiBot> You drink a woolly
water potion (New!). Vaur sees the sky briefly flash solid dark
blue then go back to normal.
L33[07:43:50] <RedstoneParkour> %sip
<RedstoneParkour> %sipL34[07:43:51] <MichiBot> You drink a
redacted moonstone potion (New!). When RedstoneParkour brings the
bottle down they see A Bombastium colored plastic flamingo. It
stares into their soul.
L35[07:56:04] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> iirc there is no time limit, but the queue has
a max size
L36[07:56:04] <Renno> Is
this a global queue?
<Renno> Is
this a global queue?L37[07:56:11] <Forecaster> no
<Forecaster> noL38[07:56:43] <Renno> Or
is it a queue per device?
<Renno> Or
is it a queue per device?L39[07:56:59] <Forecaster> devices don't share
events...
<Forecaster> devices don't share
events...L40[07:57:39] <RedstoneParkour> its a queue per
computer
<RedstoneParkour> its a queue per
computerL41[08:03:08] <Renno> So
that's a yes I take it
<Renno> So
that's a yes I take itL42[08:04:55] <Renno> Is
the message strength calculation done at the time the modem event
in queue is pushed to the device or at the time it enters the
queue?
<Renno> Is
the message strength calculation done at the time the modem event
in queue is pushed to the device or at the time it enters the
queue?L43[08:05:32] <Forecaster> what strength
calculation?
<Forecaster> what strength
calculation?L44[08:05:47] <Renno> I
noticed (iirc) that a device with a modem strength of 5
doesn't receive any messages from devices more than 5 blocks
away, even though theoretically the message from another device
should reach it
<Renno> I
noticed (iirc) that a device with a modem strength of 5
doesn't receive any messages from devices more than 5 blocks
away, even though theoretically the message from another device
should reach itL45[08:06:03] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> what strength calculation?
L46[08:06:03] <Renno>
Modem.setStrength()?
<Renno>
Modem.setStrength()?L47[08:06:14] <Renno>
Goes up to 400
<Renno>
Goes up to 400L48[08:06:20] <Renno> On
a tier 2 wireless
<Renno> On
a tier 2 wirelessL49[08:07:16] <Corded> > <Renno>
Is the message strength calculation done at the time the mo…
L50[08:07:16] <RedstoneParkour> pushed to the
device?
<RedstoneParkour> pushed to the
device?L51[08:07:39] <Corded> >
<RedstoneParkour> pushed to the device?
L52[08:07:40] <Renno>
Emptied from the queue to the device
<Renno>
Emptied from the queue to the deviceL53[08:07:47] <Renno> Idk
how else to describe that
<Renno> Idk
how else to describe thatL54[08:07:56] <RedstoneParkour> so you mean pulled from
the queue via `computer.pullSignal`?
<RedstoneParkour> so you mean pulled from
the queue via `computer.pullSignal`?L55[08:08:02] <Renno>
Sure
<Renno>
SureL56[08:08:14] <Corded> > <Renno>
Emptied from the queue to the device
L57[08:08:14] <Forecaster> the queue is on the
device
<Forecaster> the queue is on the
deviceL58[08:08:20] <RedstoneParkour> on the cpu*
<RedstoneParkour> on the cpu*L59[08:08:33] <RedstoneParkour> perhaps best to make
that clear
<RedstoneParkour> perhaps best to make
that clearL60[08:08:34] <Renno>
Good to know
<Renno>
Good to knowL61[08:08:46] <Forecaster> we explained this
already
<Forecaster> we explained this
alreadyL62[08:08:57] <Renno>
?
<Renno>
?L63[08:09:16] <Renno> I
don't see where we've had this convo before
<Renno> I
don't see where we've had this convo beforeL64[08:09:50] <Forecaster> we told you 10 minutes ago
that there is no global queue
<Forecaster> we told you 10 minutes ago
that there is no global queueL65[08:09:50] <RedstoneParkour> the cpu has a 256-long
signal queue, but from your messages it seems you think the network
card also has a signal queue
<RedstoneParkour> the cpu has a 256-long
signal queue, but from your messages it seems you think the network
card also has a signal queueL66[08:09:52] <RedstoneParkour> it doesnt
<RedstoneParkour> it doesntL67[08:10:33] <Forecaster> the strength calculation
should happen before a message is added to the queue
<Forecaster> the strength calculation
should happen before a message is added to the queueL68[08:10:50] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> we told you 10 minutes ago that there is no
global queue
L69[08:10:50] <Renno>
That doesn't necessarily explain the answer
<Renno>
That doesn't necessarily explain the answerL70[08:11:03] <Renno>
When you could of just said yes
<Renno>
When you could of just said yesL71[08:11:31] <Forecaster> yes to what
<Forecaster> yes to whatL72[08:11:48] <Corded> >
<RedstoneParkour> the cpu has a 256-long signal queue, but
from your messages…
L73[08:11:48] <Renno> I
don't think it has a queue at all
<Renno> I
don't think it has a queue at allL74[08:12:14] <Renno> My
guess was there is a per device queue that events get pushed into
and consumed on computer.pullSignal
<Renno> My
guess was there is a per device queue that events get pushed into
and consumed on computer.pullSignalL75[08:12:28] <Renno> But
instead of saying yes to my question you said there is no global
queue
<Renno> But
instead of saying yes to my question you said there is no global
queueL76[08:12:43] <Renno> My
question being "is it per device"
<Renno> My
question being "is it per device"L77[08:12:49] <RedstoneParkour> i think we misunderstood
what you mean by 'device'
<RedstoneParkour> i think we misunderstood
what you mean by 'device'L78[08:13:18] <Forecaster> because RedstoneParkour
answered it
<Forecaster> because RedstoneParkour
answered itL79[08:13:28] <Forecaster> by saying the queue is per
computer
<Forecaster> by saying the queue is per
computerL80[08:13:35] <RedstoneParkour> so is a
'device' a component? is it a CPU (the thing that
actually runs the code)? or something else?
<RedstoneParkour> so is a
'device' a component? is it a CPU (the thing that
actually runs the code)? or something else?L81[08:13:58] <Renno> A
device being an electronic device
<Renno> A
device being an electronic deviceL82[08:14:12] <Renno>
Anything with cpu that runs program
<Renno>
Anything with cpu that runs programL83[08:14:18] <Renno>
Generally speaking
<Renno>
Generally speakingL84[08:14:23] <Forecaster> I don't see why that
matters, there is one queue per computer, that's all you need
to know
<Forecaster> I don't see why that
matters, there is one queue per computer, that's all you need
to knowL85[08:14:35] <Renno>
Cool
<Renno>
CoolL86[08:14:50] <Renno> I
had moved on several minutes ago with the "I'll take that
as a yes"
<Renno> I
had moved on several minutes ago with the "I'll take that
as a yes"L87[08:15:30] <Forecaster> yeah but then you said
`"Emptied from the queue to the device"` which makes no
sense
<Forecaster> yeah but then you said
`"Emptied from the queue to the device"` which makes no
senseL88[08:16:02] <Renno>
Semantics
<Renno>
SemanticsL89[08:16:16] <Renno>
Whether it's pulled or consumed or whatever terminology it
is
<Renno>
Whether it's pulled or consumed or whatever terminology it
isL90[08:16:22] <Renno> It
goes from the queue into the program
<Renno> It
goes from the queue into the programL91[08:16:33] <Renno>
Doesn't matter to me how it's worded
<Renno>
Doesn't matter to me how it's wordedL92[08:17:39] <Forecaster> I think the problem is that
you keep using "device" to mean different things instead
of using more specific terms
<Forecaster> I think the problem is that
you keep using "device" to mean different things instead
of using more specific termsL93[08:18:25] <Renno> Is
a drone a device? Is a robot a device? Is a computer a device? Is a
microcontroller a device?
<Renno> Is
a drone a device? Is a robot a device? Is a computer a device? Is a
microcontroller a device?L94[08:18:30] <Renno> I
generally think, yes
<Renno> I
generally think, yesL95[08:19:14] <Forecaster> yes, but you also said
`"Emptied from the queue to the device"` in which you
seemed to mean the program when you said device
<Forecaster> yes, but you also said
`"Emptied from the queue to the device"` in which you
seemed to mean the program when you said deviceL96[08:19:40] <Forecaster> anyway, the strength
calculation happens when the event is added to the queue, not when
you pull it off of the queue in the program
<Forecaster> anyway, the strength
calculation happens when the event is added to the queue, not when
you pull it off of the queue in the programL97[08:22:21] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> anyway, the strength calculation happens when
the event is …
L98[08:22:22] <Renno>
That's what I thought, trying to figure out why a device with
the strength of 5 on its modem doesn't receive a message from
a device with a strength of 400 when it's well within range
because theoretically it should receive it but not be able to
respond
<Renno>
That's what I thought, trying to figure out why a device with
the strength of 5 on its modem doesn't receive a message from
a device with a strength of 400 when it's well within range
because theoretically it should receive it but not be able to
respondL99[08:23:45] <Forecaster> that would make sense from a
realistic perspective, but I guess that's just how the mod is
coded to handle it
<Forecaster> that would make sense from a
realistic perspective, but I guess that's just how the mod is
coded to handle itL100[08:23:51] <Forecaster> or its a bug
<Forecaster> or its a bugL101[08:23:52] <Renno>
Well, more specifically it could respond but the response
wouldn't make it back since it'd be more than 5
away
<Renno>
Well, more specifically it could respond but the response
wouldn't make it back since it'd be more than 5
awayL102[08:32:30] <RedstoneParkour> it seems like a
bug
<RedstoneParkour> it seems like a
bugL103[08:33:00] <RedstoneParkour> but holding a wireless
card on max strength (but not using it) shouldn't cost any
more power
<RedstoneParkour> but holding a wireless
card on max strength (but not using it) shouldn't cost any
more powerL104[08:59:54] ⇦
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L106[09:01:28] <RedstoneParkour> %sip
<RedstoneParkour> %sipL107[09:01:31] <MichiBot> You drink an
nth-dimensional dalekanium potion (New!). As RedstoneParkour drinks
the potion they become the target of a wad of llama spit! They fail
to evade it with a 2 vs DC 12 and takes 1d4 => 1 damage.
L108[09:02:02] <Kristobear38> I remember a bug like this
where the tier1 wireless card wouldn't receive messages from
tier2 (or vice versa?)
<Kristobear38> I remember a bug like this
where the tier1 wireless card wouldn't receive messages from
tier2 (or vice versa?)L109[09:02:18] <Kristobear38> This was something like 4
years ago
<Kristobear38> This was something like 4
years agoL110[09:02:27] <Kristobear38> And I believe it has been
fixed
<Kristobear38> And I believe it has been
fixedL111[09:20:28] <RedstoneParkour> %tonkout
<RedstoneParkour> %tonkoutL112[09:20:29] <MichiBot> Woooo!
RedstoneParkour! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 43
minutes and 56 seconds (By 17 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L113[09:20:30] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour
has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points!
plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.9969, Position #4 Need 0.08074 more points to pass Vaur!
L114[09:47:43] <RedstoneParkour> %sip
<RedstoneParkour> %sipL115[09:47:45] <MichiBot> You drink a
frosty mithril potion (New!). Sitting down suddenly seems like a
really terrible idea.
L116[10:47:34] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL117[10:47:36] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
Vaur! You beat RedstoneParkour's previous record of <0
(By 1 hour, 27 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L118[10:47:37] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 1 hour, 27 minutes and 6 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00145 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need
0.04057 more points to pass Spider EveryOS!
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L121[11:17:17] *
Amanda meows and looks around
L122[11:17:53] *
Amanda orders MichiBot some more %soup
L123[11:17:54] <MichiBot> Waiter!!
Waiter!! Theres the Dahak-AZI03 in my soup!
L124[11:18:15] <Amanda> That sounds like
an electronic. I'm sure that's fine
L125[11:26:31] <Rooky> how
does the remote terminal work? i have a server and a remote
terminal in my server rack i try to shift + RC the server but
nothing happend
<Rooky> how
does the remote terminal work? i have a server and a remote
terminal in my server rack i try to shift + RC the server but
nothing happendL126[11:29:35] <Izzy> have to put them on
the same component network (thick line) then shift-right-click the
terminal server, from memory
L127[11:31:00] <Corded> > <Izzy>
have to put them on the same component network (thick line)…
L129[11:31:46] <Izzy> yup
L130[11:31:46] <Rooky> it
worked
<Rooky> it
workedL131[11:31:47] <Rooky>
thx
<Rooky>
thxL132[11:37:34] <RedstoneParkour> hey izzy how's
adding nat support for minitel going?
<RedstoneParkour> hey izzy how's
adding nat support for minitel going?L133[11:43:43] <Forecaster> hrm
<Forecaster> hrmL134[11:44:16] <Forecaster> when you find a cloning
facility that is full of conveyors with body bags on them I think
it's safe to assume it's not a good facility
<Forecaster> when you find a cloning
facility that is full of conveyors with body bags on them I think
it's safe to assume it's not a good facilityL135[11:47:04] <Izzy> I got distracted
playing minecraft x
L136[11:47:05] <Izzy> x3
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L139[14:15:13] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL140[14:15:13] <MichiBot> Eureka!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of 1 hour, 27
minutes and 6 seconds (By 2 hours and 30 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L141[14:15:14] <MichiBot>
Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 27 minutes and 37 seconds!
Forecaster also gained 0.00402 (0.00201 x 2) tonk points for
stealing the tonk. Position #5. Need 0.12017 more points to pass
RedstoneParkour!
L142[14:15:41] ⇦
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L143[18:38:48] <Forecaster> E:D had revealed info about
the new Panther Clipper
<Forecaster> E:D had revealed info about
the new Panther ClipperL144[18:39:15] <Forecaster> Apparently it's
estimated to be able to care around 1k tons
<Forecaster> Apparently it's
estimated to be able to care around 1k tonsL145[18:39:19] <Forecaster> I'm excited
<Forecaster> I'm excitedL146[19:01:54] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL147[19:01:55] <MichiBot> Wild! Vaur! You
beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 hours, 27 minutes and
37 seconds (By 1 hour, 19 minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L148[19:01:56] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 4 hours, 46 minutes and 41 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00528 (0.00132 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#3. Need 0.03529 more points to pass Spider EveryOS!
L149[19:37:39] <Brisingr
Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster
<Brisingr
Aerowing> %splash @ForecasterL150[19:37:41] <MichiBot> You fling an
invisible emerald potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster.
@Forecaster turns into a pig turtle girl until they find an
unlabeled key.
L151[19:48:29] <RedstoneParkour> %sip
<RedstoneParkour> %sipL152[19:48:30] <MichiBot> You drink a
forbidden jumbonium potion (New!). RedstoneParkour's skin turn
the color of oculemon until they exit the room.
L153[20:02:57] <Amanda> %choose halucinate
or save it for dinner
L154[20:02:57] <MichiBot> Amanda:
"halucinate" is for cool kids!
L155[20:06:45] <Amanda> %choose low-temp
goat kitten?
L156[20:06:45] <MichiBot> Amanda: Fine,
but only if I receive pats after.
L157[20:06:54] <Amanda> Hrm
L158[20:37:31] <Amanda> %choose take deck
or just tablet
L159[20:37:31] <MichiBot> Amanda:
You'll want to go with "take deck".
L160[21:10:26] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L161[21:10:27] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 4
hours, 46 minutes and 41 seconds this time. 2 hours, 8 minutes and
31 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 38 minutes and 10
seconds!
L162[21:59:31] <CompanionCube>
%drink
L163[21:59:33] <MichiBot> You drink a
crumbling electrum potion (New!). CompanionCube is suddenly wearing
gloves they don't remember putting on.
L164[22:06:14] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL165[22:06:15] <MichiBot> You drink an
ommitted avesmingo potion (New!). Vaur: Nothing seemed to
happen...
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L167[22:35:36] <Spider
EveryOS> %sip
<Spider
EveryOS> %sipL168[22:35:37] <MichiBot> You drink a
freezing radiation potion (New!). The ghost of a plant haunts
Spider EveryOS until hell has a mild winter.
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