L1[00:42:09] <! Little​Timmy52 !> has anyone made some running in the background program that basically loggs any and all modem messages recieved by the computer? I need to do soome odd debugging and a program like this woulds be perfect

L2[00:43:55] <! Little​Timmy52 !> what would be even better (but probly impossible) is if there was a way to look at all net data sent over a cable period

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L4[00:52:18] <Izzy> you could pretty simply write an event handler for it

L5[00:52:20] <! Little​Timmy52 !> https://github.com/LittleTimmy52/OpenComputers/blob/master/Agriculture/AggriculturalControllerInterface.lua

L6[00:52:20] <! Little​Timmy52 !> Anyone able to help?

L7[00:52:20] <! Little​Timmy52 !> I am getting some odd behavior probbly due to how I handle messages from modem, and I know I messed up some logic somewhere in regards to address for something, but some functions work but say they timed out some just brick the program and doing the same function consecuitively also bricks it, im lost.

L8[00:53:02] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> you could pretty simply write an event handler for it

L9[00:53:02] <! Little​Timmy52 !> you know... that slipped my mind entirely I could just log it in my event handling

L10[00:54:09] <Izzy> function log(...) local f = io.open("/tmp/modem.log","ab") f:write(table.concat({...},"\t").."\n") f:close() end event.listen("modem_message",log)

L11[02:06:04] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout

L12[02:06:05] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 14 minutes and 36 seconds (By 3 hours, 24 minutes and 31 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L13[02:06:06] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.62659, Position #2 Need 0.03267 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!

L14[02:06:13] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L15[02:06:14] <MichiBot> You drink a timeless sky potion (New!). Spider EveryOS feels the need to use "%fling".

L16[02:06:21] <Spider ​EveryOS> %fling

L17[02:06:21] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS: Invalid arguments. %fling Target:string [Item:string]

L18[02:12:54] <Izzy> thinkin about

L19[02:12:57] <Izzy> stack language for drones

L21[04:51:54] <CompanionCube> %tonkout

L22[04:51:55] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube: You gotta tonk before you can tonk out. For this transgression the timer has been reset.

L23[04:52:14] <CompanionCube> oh, how did i not see the previous tonkout

L24[05:01:32] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L25[05:01:33] <MichiBot> You drink a bubbly tuna potion (New!). Spider EveryOS zones out for 6 minutes.

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L27[05:53:25] <Izzy> Also, Renno, would you care to hit me up with the info for new SecondCraft?

L28[06:08:19] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk

L29[06:08:19] <MichiBot> Yay! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 16 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L30[06:08:20] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 1 hour, 16 minutes and 24 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00127)

L31[06:08:32] <Spider ​EveryOS> oh

L32[06:15:39] <Va​ur> 🤣

L33[06:15:42] <Va​ur> %sip

L34[06:15:43] <MichiBot> You drink a diluted spice potion (New!). Vaur gains the proportional strength of a bird until someone baps them.

L35[06:25:03] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> maybe hashing the output name would result in more evenly s…

L36[06:25:03] <Redston​eParkour> why not have one Really Big Database File?

L37[06:29:26] <Izzy> access time

L38[06:30:09] <Izzy> you split up the file into sections and you have to seek a lot less

L39[06:30:36] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L40[06:30:37] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable spice potion (New!). Spider EveryOS turns into a bird boy until they see a unicorn.

L41[06:31:59] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> you split up the file into sections and you have to seek a …

L42[06:32:00] <Redston​eParkour> why would you have to seek less though?

L43[06:34:58] <Redston​eParkour> seeking 1 MB takes the same time as seeking 1 KB right?

L44[06:35:09] <Izzy> bold of you to assume I had an index

L45[06:35:17] <Izzy> and also no, because this was an LZ16 file

L46[06:36:03] <Redston​eParkour> oh yeah

L47[06:36:06] <Izzy> you could maybe halve the seek time vs reading it linearly

L48[06:36:23] <Izzy> more if you're using big blocks, but that uses more memory to decompress

L49[06:36:28] <Izzy> this was just the simplest approach

L50[06:38:43] <Izzy> hence thinking about grouping by the first so many characters of the hash of the recipe output, it should end up roughly evenly split between however many files I make, so you wouldn't end up with some mods resulting in giant files because they have ten trillion items then a mod with a unique first letter that adds one (1) recipe

L51[06:39:26] <Redston​eParkour> yeah that makes sense

L52[06:39:37] <Redston​eParkour> although are you not using an index?

L53[06:40:02] <Izzy> while that could work, the recipe database was too big to fit on a T3 HDD uncompressed

L54[06:40:16] <Redston​eParkour> raid?

L55[06:40:24] <Izzy> can't stick one of those in a robot x3

L56[06:40:30] <Redston​eParkour> oh

L57[06:40:45] <Izzy> don't get me wrong the design is Not Ideal

L58[06:40:53] <Redston​eParkour> do it over the network perhaps?

L59[06:40:55] <Izzy> but it fit within constraints and wasn't hard to implement

L60[06:41:13] <Izzy> yeah that's the strategy I went with in later systems, literally just proxying the function over RPC

L61[06:41:59] <Izzy> you do that and you can stick the recipe database on a computronics tape and it can be 128M with near zero seek time

L62[06:42:34] <Izzy> ... that's not the right number, but the point is that it's absolutely huge

L63[06:43:21] <Izzy> though a compressed recipe database using a simple hash for grouping is much easier to _deploy_

L64[06:43:30] <Redston​eParkour> yep

L65[06:43:44] <Izzy> than a potentially involved Database System that serves recipes

L66[06:44:07] <Izzy> also, reading a disk is much faster than talking over the network

L67[06:44:49] <Izzy> so if you can get the disk I/O low enough while still fitting the constraints, a local database will be faster

L68[06:48:07] <Izzy> This also suggests that if one were to use hashes, grouping by longer strings would effectively reduce I/O

L69[06:49:11] <Redston​eParkour> shouldn't you group by most used?

L70[06:49:42] <Izzy> Maybe sort the contents of the files by most used, but there's no advantage to putting them in the same file

L71[06:51:22] <Izzy> Hashing is functionally constant time in this context so it makes little difference which files commonly used recipes get put in

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L75[07:29:54] <Forec​aster> need a tape upgrade for robots

L76[09:05:18] <CompanionCube> %tonkout

L77[09:05:19] <MichiBot> Crud! Compan​ionCube! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of 1 hour, 16 minutes and 24 seconds (By 1 hour, 40 minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L78[09:05:20] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.66276. Position #1

L79[09:05:30] <CompanionCube> %drink

L80[09:05:31] <MichiBot> You drink a salty violet potion (New!). Everything CompanionCube says is now in Wingdings until they exit the room.

L81[14:04:30] <CompanionCube> %tonk

L82[14:04:30] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Compan​ionCube! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 59 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L83[14:04:31] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 4 hours, 59 minutes and 11 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00499)

L84[14:44:43] <CompanionCube> %drink

L85[14:44:43] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy water potion (New!). There's an acidic tinge to the potion... A label on the bottle reads "Who needs internal organs anyway?". CompanionCube takes 3d​6 => [6,2,6] acid damage.

L88[19:04:12] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout

L89[19:04:13] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of 4 hours, 59 minutes and 11 seconds (By 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L90[19:04:14] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.63509. Position #2 Need 0.02767 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!

L93[19:08:12] <Redston​eParkour> %sip

L94[19:08:14] <MichiBot> You drink a steady salmon potion (New!). RedstoneParkour grows whiskers until they steal the moon.

L97[19:21:09] *** zsh sets mode: +q *!*@femboy.me

L100[20:00:45] <Re​nno> @Izzy it's now called ThirdCraft

L105[20:05:00] <Re​nno> I think I was still using your method of recipe retrieval (Izzy) but noticed it was quite slow due to the IO operations even with increasing the cache which is why I was experimenting with compiling all of the databases into an LZSS compressed & cbor serialized dictionary in memory

L106[20:08:44] <Izzy> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/thirdcraft ?

L107[20:08:49] <Re​nno> yes

L108[20:09:58] <Corded> > <Re​nno> I think I was still using your method of recipe retrieval (…

L109[20:09:58] <Re​nno> to which I managed to keep the entire combined dictionary in memory for like 350kb of memory out of the 2mb a tier 3 PC can have

L110[20:09:58] <Re​nno> 10000 retrieval operations in the dictionary takes 0.7 seconds whereas 10000 retrievals of random recipes would take 500 seconds (700 times slower than the dictionary)

L111[20:10:15] <Izzy> heh, it's freaked out Prism Launcher pretty well. "No version is available!"

L112[20:12:14] <Va​ur> %tonk

L113[20:12:15] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Va​ur! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 8 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!

L114[20:12:16] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 8 minutes and 1 second! Vaur also gained 0.00113 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.24121 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!

L115[20:13:07] <Re​nno> one day I will eventually get my autocrafting stuff finished

L116[20:15:52] <Izzy> wow the curseforge launcher is even more obnoxious than the technic launcher

L117[20:17:21] <Izzy> who the hell puts files in ~/Documents rather than ~/.config

L118[20:18:30] <Izzy> Renno: > Players are required to join the discord to gain access to the server whitelist.

L119[20:18:42] <Izzy> This is ... not an option for me, what do?

L120[20:33:25] <Re​nno> I suppose I could whitelist you

L121[20:33:33] <Re​nno> what was your ign?

L122[20:40:43] <Izzy> Izzy

L123[20:41:07] <Izzy> Wait no

L124[20:41:10] <Izzy> Izaya

L125[20:41:29] <Izzy> Fuckin, been using nickname mods for so long I forgot

L126[20:44:20] <Re​nno> whitelisted

L127[20:47:58] <Izzy> Thank you! Are the rules materially different to SC?

L128[20:50:38] <Re​nno> it's a little different

L129[20:50:44] <Re​nno> economy is backed by diamond standard

L130[20:50:49] <Re​nno> daily login rewards

L131[20:50:57] <Re​nno> server quests that are actually useful and pay okay

L132[20:51:08] <Re​nno> better admin shop

L133[20:51:26] <Re​nno> train card has a set range of like 50000 blocks

L134[20:51:36] <Re​nno> spawn is a lot nicer

L135[20:51:51] <Re​nno> I'm presuming you'd like to join my state/mun Automata?

L136[20:52:13] <Re​nno> it's dedicated to OC and cool technical stuff

L137[20:55:09] <Izzy> I'll take a look around I think

L138[21:27:04] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L139[21:27:05] <MichiBot> You drink a sweet aegisalt potion (New!). The bottle turns into a ferozium dagger.

L140[21:36:35] <Va​ur> %tonkout

L141[21:36:37] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 8 minutes and 1 second (By 16 minutes and 19 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L142[21:36:38] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 0.39488, Position #3 Need 0.24021 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!

L143[22:42:22] <Forec​aster> %sip

L144[22:42:24] <MichiBot> You drink a porous pussplum potion (New!). The bottle turns into a pie.

L149[23:42:13] *** Joins: Corded (~MichiBot@2607:5300:203:1016::1) Michibot

L151[23:58:17] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk

L152[23:58:17] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 21 minutes and 41 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L153[23:58:18] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 2 hours, 21 minutes and 41 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00236 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.02531 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!

L154[23:58:22] <Spider ​EveryOS> %sip

L155[23:58:23] <MichiBot> You drink an nth-dimensional red potion (New!). A tiny cloud appears with a ridiculous smile on it. It follows Spider EveryOS until they say the word "Nice".