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zzzmews
L2[01:23:16] <Izzy> %remindme 3h move
folder
L3[01:23:17] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"move folder" in 3h at 10/13/2024 04:23:16 AM
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<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkout
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkoutL14[02:39:57] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks!
Spider EveryOS! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 36
minutes and 32 seconds (By 3 hours, 11 minutes and 18 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L15[02:39:58] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS
has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points!
plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
3.06567419, Position #1
L16[02:41:05] <Spider
EveryOS> I just had a terrible idea
<Spider
EveryOS> I just had a terrible ideaL17[02:41:05] <Spider
EveryOS> What if somebody saved all their shells for the week
before tonk season ended, and then used them all back-to-back
<Spider
EveryOS> What if somebody saved all their shells for the week
before tonk season ended, and then used them all back-to-backL18[02:48:58] ⇦
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L19[03:18:52] <Ocawesome101> I've thought about doing
that
<Ocawesome101> I've thought about doing
thatL20[03:18:55] <Ocawesome101> %shellcount
<Ocawesome101> %shellcountL21[03:18:56] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101: You
have 0 Blue Shells, 3 Red Shells, 5 Green Shells, and 2
Bricks
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L29[04:23:17] <MichiBot> Izzy REMINDER:
move folder
L30[04:40:44] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL31[04:40:45] <MichiBot> Fudge!
Forecaster! You beat Spider EveryOS's previous record of <0
(By 2 hours and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L32[04:40:46] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 2 hours and 47 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00201
tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.07528882
more points to pass Vaur!
L33[06:01:55] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> Will these ones have a new-and-improved 100%
failure rate?
L34[06:01:56] <ff_66> New
microarchitecture = surely, yes
<ff_66> New
microarchitecture = surely, yesL35[06:01:56] <ff_66> I
won't buy it now because that's not sure and because they cost a
lot in europe rn (can i afford international shipping ?)
<ff_66> I
won't buy it now because that's not sure and because they cost a
lot in europe rn (can i afford international shipping ?)L36[06:02:46] <Izzy> wonder whether intel
or AMD will be the way to go in 2034.
L37[06:03:04] <Izzy> or maybe it will be a
completely different set because Intel hasn't made ARM chips in
quite a while AFAIK, and AMD never has(?)
L38[06:03:12] <Corded> > <Izzy>
wonder whether intel or AMD will be the way to go in 2034.
L39[06:03:13] <ff_66>
Maybe none of them
<ff_66>
Maybe none of themL40[06:04:00] <Lily> Yes,
that's what she (?) just said
<Lily> Yes,
that's what she (?) just saidL41[06:04:58] * Izzy
nods
L42[06:05:00] <Izzy> :)
L43[06:05:50] <Lily> ty,
wasn't 100% sure haha
<Lily> ty,
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L47[06:20:23] <Izzy> tangentially, anyone
inclined to take bets on how long it will take our friend here to
go through the pipeline?
L48[06:45:23] <nadja> Izzy: Are the AMD
Opteron A1100 a joke to you? :P
L49[06:45:40] <Izzy> I have never heard of
such a thing
L50[06:51:55] <nadja> I figured, yes.
L51[06:53:37] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL52[06:53:39] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! Vaur!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours and 47 seconds
(By 12 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L53[06:53:40] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record
is 2 hours, 12 minutes and 53 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0006
(0.0002 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need
0.12776719 more points to pass Spider EveryOS!
L54[06:57:05] <nadja> Izzy: And if you're
referring to the trans pipeline, stop. It's okay to be cis, and
pushing people into your favourite mold isn't nice.
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L56[07:25:08] <The
Patmann> agreed
<The
Patmann> agreedL57[07:52:24] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL58[07:52:25] <MichiBot> You drink a
searing titanium potion (New!). Tonk moved forward 2 hours. (Rem.
uses: 0)
L59[07:52:34] <Forecaster> Aw
<Forecaster> AwL60[08:04:05] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> sis there a fast way to open
every port on a modem in OC
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> sis there a fast way to open
every port on a modem in OCL61[08:06:42] <ff_66>
uninstall your OC firewall (just joking, don't do it IRL, and it
doesn't exists in OC anyways)
<ff_66>
uninstall your OC firewall (just joking, don't do it IRL, and it
doesn't exists in OC anyways)L62[08:07:41] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> for the thing i am working
on for it to be fully functional i need it to be able to listen on
every port which requires me opening them all
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> for the thing i am working
on for it to be fully functional i need it to be able to listen on
every port which requires me opening them allL63[08:11:37] <Forecaster> There's no shortcut
<Forecaster> There's no shortcutL64[08:11:52] <Forecaster> Just do a loop and open each
port
<Forecaster> Just do a loop and open each
portL65[08:13:50] <ff_66> i
presume that it'll take like, 5 minutes to start the program
but...
<ff_66> i
presume that it'll take like, 5 minutes to start the program
but...L66[08:14:34] <Izzy> think modems have a
16-port limit
L67[08:16:16] <Forecaster> I've never tried opening
every port so that might be true
<Forecaster> I've never tried opening
every port so that might be trueL68[08:16:49] <Izzy> the really cheap
wireless card can only support one also IIRC
L69[08:19:53] <Corded> > <Izzy>
think modems have a 16-port limit
L70[08:19:53] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> oh, so it does thats a bit
disappointing
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> oh, so it does thats a bit
disappointingL71[08:20:14] <Izzy> I tend to treat the
modem ports as VLANs rather than actual network ports
L72[08:20:40] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> guess i gotta install 4096
computers in order to observe every port
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> guess i gotta install 4096
computers in order to observe every portL73[08:20:52] <Izzy> dare I ask why you'd
want to do this?
L74[08:22:27] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> i am an admin on a server
that is using the JSG mod which adds stargates that are capable of
relaying modem messages through them and i am installing a system
at every gate that allows me to log everything that happens at the
gate and i thought while i am at it i could just also log the modem
messages aswell
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> i am an admin on a server
that is using the JSG mod which adds stargates that are capable of
relaying modem messages through them and i am installing a system
at every gate that allows me to log everything that happens at the
gate and i thought while i am at it i could just also log the modem
messages aswellL75[08:23:24] <Izzy> I'd probably just
focus on the most likely then
L76[08:23:30] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> guess ill just haev to add
the ability to open and close specific ports at will from the
control system
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> guess ill just haev to add
the ability to open and close specific ports at will from the
control systemL77[08:29:05] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> although i do still have 2
more card slots free so i could have 3 network cards thus allowing
me to monitor 48 ports so im not as limited
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> although i do still have 2
more card slots free so i could have 3 network cards thus allowing
me to monitor 48 ports so im not as limitedL78[08:33:30] <Corded> > <Izzy>
think modems have a 16-port limit
L79[08:33:31] <ff_66> is
it possible to change that in the config ?
<ff_66> is
it possible to change that in the config ?L80[08:40:41] <Izzy> I think so.
L81[08:43:54] <Forecaster> yes
<Forecaster> yesL82[08:44:22] <Forecaster> `maxOpenPorts`
<Forecaster> `maxOpenPorts`L83[08:45:58] <Forecaster> apparently though you can't
configure the port range
<Forecaster> apparently though you can't
configure the port rangeL84[09:00:14] <ff_66>
then : problem resolved
<ff_66>
then : problem resolvedL85[09:14:39] ⇦
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L93[09:54:23] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> has anybody else noticed
this weird behaviour i just notcied in OC that it seems that the
first call of finishConnect on a TCP scoket object ALWAYS returns
false
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> has anybody else noticed
this weird behaviour i just notcied in OC that it seems that the
first call of finishConnect on a TCP scoket object ALWAYS returns
falseL94[09:57:42] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> it also needs an os.sleep
call between opening the socket and the scond call of
finishConnect()
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> it also needs an os.sleep
call between opening the socket and the scond call of
finishConnect()L95[10:17:18] <Kristopher38> I wonder what finishConnect
does under the hood but my guess is it checks whether or not the
connection has been established so that requires at least one
RTT
<Kristopher38> I wonder what finishConnect
does under the hood but my guess is it checks whether or not the
connection has been established so that requires at least one
RTTL96[10:18:03] <Kristopher38> To establish the connection
itself
<Kristopher38> To establish the connection
itselfL97[10:18:37] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> well i found myself a
solution to my problem being 2 calls and a sleep of 1 second at
some point between the creation fo the socket object and the second
call to finishConnect
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> well i found myself a
solution to my problem being 2 calls and a sleep of 1 second at
some point between the creation fo the socket object and the second
call to finishConnectL98[10:18:49] <Kristopher38> So if you call it too
quickly after opening a socket it will understandably return
false
<Kristopher38> So if you call it too
quickly after opening a socket it will understandably return
falseL99[10:18:54] <Kristopher38> That's just my guess
though.
<Kristopher38> That's just my guess
though.L100[10:19:16] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> it jsut felt a bit weird
that i couldnt jsut call it once after a wait
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> it jsut felt a bit weird
that i couldnt jsut call it once after a waitL101[10:19:59] <Kristopher38> Hmm
<Kristopher38> HmmL102[10:23:13] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL103[10:23:14] <MichiBot> You drink a
shining solarium potion (New!). Vaur is suddenly wearing a tiny
glove on each finger.
L104[10:27:24] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> is os.execute
asynchronous?
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> is os.execute
asynchronous?L105[10:31:34] <Amanda> I don't think
so
L106[10:31:41] *
Amanda meows and looks around
L107[10:40:54] <MR_SPᐰGETTY> it was just being a bit
weird because in my script i hvae it download a file then download
anouther file then reboot as 3 differnet execute calls and it only
downlaoded the first file before rebooting but when i tried again
it downloaded both files
<MR_SPᐰGETTY> it was just being a bit
weird because in my script i hvae it download a file then download
anouther file then reboot as 3 differnet execute calls and it only
downlaoded the first file before rebooting but when i tried again
it downloaded both filesL108[10:48:24] <Izzy> Could check the
status in a loop
L109[13:21:15] *
Amanda teaches Elfi that she can dance when she wants to, she can
leave those squirrels behind
L110[13:22:35] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL111[13:22:37] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of 2 hours, 12
minutes and 53 seconds (By 2 hours, 16 minutes and 4 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L112[13:22:38] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 4 hours, 28 minutes and 57 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00681 (0.00227 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #3. Need 0.06907882 more points to pass Vaur!
L113[14:14:05] <Forecaster> %choose $ food; lazy or
proper
<Forecaster> %choose $ food; lazy or
properL114[14:14:06] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
lazy food
L115[14:14:15] <Forecaster> alright, kebab it is!
<Forecaster> alright, kebab it is!L116[14:17:49] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL117[14:17:50] <MichiBot> You drink a
serif bombastium potion (New!). Vaur turns into a bear boy until an
angel gets their wings.
L118[14:45:23] <Elfi> %quaff
L119[14:45:23] <MichiBot> You drink a warm
apple potion (New!). Elfi turns into a robot bear girl until they
have a crunchy sky potion.
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L121[15:06:38] <Forecaster> %sip crunchy sky
<Forecaster> %sip crunchy skyL122[15:06:38] <MichiBot> You drink a
crunchy sky potion (New!). Forecaster's radiation level goes up by
4. Forecaster's radiation level is 6. (Rem. uses: 0)
L123[15:37:07] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL124[15:37:07] <MichiBot> You drink a sour
violium potion (New!). Vaur hears a scream from nearby.
L125[15:40:16] <ff_66>
AAAAHHHHHHH
<ff_66>
AAAAHHHHHHHL126[15:40:30] <ff_66>
sorry, it was me
<ff_66>
sorry, it was meL127[15:51:33]
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L134[17:26:46] <Vaur>
%so
<Vaur>
%soL135[17:26:50] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL136[17:26:50] <MichiBot> You drink a
slimy silver potion (New!). Vaur is suddenly wearing a tiny glove
on each finger.
L137[17:42:05] <Forecaster> Vacuum computer repair
anyone?
<Forecaster> Vacuum computer repair
anyone?L139[17:42:37] <Forecaster> Vacuum tube computer*
<Forecaster> Vacuum tube computer*L140[18:23:21] ⇦
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L141[18:32:12] <ff_66> do
you think i can make a computer with VHDL ? (I know it would be
insanely long but it would be awesome to run a virtual 80486 with
windows 95 on an FPGA)
<ff_66> do
you think i can make a computer with VHDL ? (I know it would be
insanely long but it would be awesome to run a virtual 80486 with
windows 95 on an FPGA)L142[18:34:28] <Hawk777> Should certainly
be possible.
L143[18:34:43] <Hawk777> Not sure what
kind of hardware you’d need to get a 486 going.
L144[18:35:04] <Hawk777> It’d take a lot
of work but I don’t see why it would be impossible.
L145[18:38:39] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL146[18:38:39] <MichiBot> Bejabbers!
Vaur! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 4 hours, 28
minutes and 57 seconds (By 47 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L147[18:38:40] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 5 hours, 16 minutes and 3 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.0039 (0.00078 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#2. Need 0.12386719 more points to pass Spider EveryOS!
L148[18:40:12] <Corded> >
<Hawk777> Not sure what kind of hardware you’d need to get a
486 goin…
L149[18:40:12] <ff_66> i
have an FPGA and the processor can run at up to around 66 MHz so i
presume it would be possible, but i would need to emulate IDE buses
out of the USB ports and make a VGA card on the same FPGA (i could
add song but at this point...)
<ff_66> i
have an FPGA and the processor can run at up to around 66 MHz so i
presume it would be possible, but i would need to emulate IDE buses
out of the USB ports and make a VGA card on the same FPGA (i could
add song but at this point...)L150[18:40:22] <ff_66> *
sound cards but at this point...)
<ff_66> *
sound cards but at this point...)L151[18:40:44] <Corded> >
<Hawk777> It’d take a lot of work but I don’t see why it
would be imp…
L152[18:40:44] <ff_66> 4MB
of RAM, potential VRAM included
<ff_66> 4MB
of RAM, potential VRAM includedL153[18:44:46] <Hawk777> My original
computer was a 486 running at 33 MHz with 8 MB RAM. I
suspect 4 would be sufficient.
L154[18:44:53] <Hawk777> Or you could add
external RAM.
L155[18:45:08] <Hawk777> Maybe Win95
wouldn’t work super-well on 4 MB, not sure.
L156[18:45:25] <Hawk777> Something like
3.1 might be a better target at that level.
L157[18:49:03] <Corded> >
<Hawk777> Or you could add external RAM.
L158[18:49:03] <ff_66> can
I use tthe GPIO for this ?
<ff_66> can
I use tthe GPIO for this ?L159[18:49:44] <Corded> >
<Hawk777> Maybe Win95 wouldn’t work super-well on 4 MB,
not sure.
L160[18:49:44] <ff_66>
win98 could work on 4 MB, but it would be insanely slow
<ff_66>
win98 could work on 4 MB, but it would be insanely slowL161[18:50:43] <ff_66> but
imagine showing this at school
<ff_66> but
imagine showing this at schoolL162[18:51:44] <ff_66> oh
wait, the GPIO are usable for... IDE drives ??? that's insane how
much features you can have in a small board...
<ff_66> oh
wait, the GPIO are usable for... IDE drives ??? that's insane how
much features you can have in a small board...L163[18:52:14] <ff_66> i
have an Altera Cyclone II EP2C35F672C6 btw
<ff_66> i
have an Altera Cyclone II EP2C35F672C6 btwL164[18:53:21] <ff_66>
exactly like my PC : i got it from the university where my father
works in
<ff_66>
exactly like my PC : i got it from the university where my father
works inL165[18:55:35] <Hawk777> I think lots of
FPGAs have dedicated hardware blocks for attaching external
DRAM.
L166[18:56:02] <Hawk777> I never used them
nor remember what they’re called, I just know they exist (at least
on the higher end ones).
L167[18:56:30] <Hawk777> Probably could do
IDE via the GPIOs, yeah.
L168[18:59:11] <ff_66> i
am not even sure if i have to handle USB as i should be okay with a
PS/2 keyboard in the setup...
<ff_66> i
am not even sure if i have to handle USB as i should be okay with a
PS/2 keyboard in the setup...L169[18:59:57] <Hawk777> Did Win95 even
support USB?
L170[19:00:02] <Hawk777> I thought it came
around later than that.
L171[19:01:34] <Forecaster> according to a quick search
usb support in win95 was "limited"
<Forecaster> according to a quick search
usb support in win95 was "limited"L172[19:01:57] <Corded> >
<Hawk777> Did Win95 even support USB?
L173[19:01:57] <ff_66>
there was an update in 1996 or 1997 that added support for it,
yeah
<ff_66>
there was an update in 1996 or 1997 that added support for it,
yeahL174[19:02:18] <ff_66> and
i think even windows 98 would be able to run on it bruh
<ff_66> and
i think even windows 98 would be able to run on it bruhL175[19:03:35] <stephanj> win98 usb was
tricky
L177[19:03:55] <stephanj> if you can use
ps/2 for least pain.
L178[19:04:17] <ff_66> i
said yes, but there is a single combo port if i remember, no
mouse
<ff_66> i
said yes, but there is a single combo port if i remember, no
mouseL179[19:04:44] <stephanj> up until win7
usb for keyboard/mice was pseudo hotplug i.e. in most cases the
drivers where only installed post login
L180[19:04:55] <stephanj> had much fun on
a lan that way
L181[19:06:34] <Corded> >
<stephanj> up until win7 usb for keyboard/mice was pseudo
hotplug i.e.…
L182[19:06:35] <ff_66> you
can certainly make it to the desktop without a mouse
<ff_66> you
can certainly make it to the desktop without a mouseL183[19:06:59] <ff_66> or
make no password
<ff_66> or
make no passwordL184[19:07:34] <ff_66> (to
be fair, a BIOS password would be stronger than a Windows 98
password)
<ff_66> (to
be fair, a BIOS password would be stronger than a Windows 98
password)L185[20:54:37] ⇦
Quits: Hawk777 (~Hawk777@2001:569:7ca4:2a00:3285:a9ff:fe40:a36)
(Quit: Leaving.)
L186[21:06:26] <Amanda> Probably depends
on the bios
L187[21:09:03] *
Amanda flops down atop Elfi, meows about her day playing with TCP
Example Servers of Smartness
L188[21:10:12] *
Amanda debates between story time and irradiating
L189[21:16:26] <Forecaster> it's definitely bedtime
<Forecaster> it's definitely bedtimeL190[21:16:49] <Amanda> Here, this'll make
your bed more comfortable %splash @Forecaster with mutable iron
potion
L191[21:16:49] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable iron potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster.
@Forecaster turns into a pig boy until hell has a nice fall.
L192[21:17:01] <Forecaster> D:<
<Forecaster> D:<L193[21:19:10] <Amanda> What? Now you're
smol!
L194[21:22:37] *
Amanda lets her laptop do a heccen zzzmew, the story machine all
loaded up
L195[21:29:58] <Forecaster> There are large pigs
too...
<Forecaster> There are large pigs
too...L196[21:34:06] *** zsh sets mode: -b
*!*@2605:59c8:7199:6000:ddc5:4d38:6a09:1928
L197[22:32:55] <Izzy> CompanionCube:
https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2024/10/refurb-weekend-symbolics-macivory-lisp.html