L1[01:00:20] 
<Ocawesome101> Watching the VP debate,
wish me luck ig
<Ocawesome101> Watching the VP debate,
wish me luck igL2[01:00:53] <Corded> > <ff_66> -#
if you ever want to ban me, do it. I'll come back.
L3[01:00:53] <The
Patmann> I'm surprised that we didn't ban them when they
decided to pull that instead of shutting up about piracy because of
the communal impact it would have
<The
Patmann> I'm surprised that we didn't ban them when they
decided to pull that instead of shutting up about piracy because of
the communal impact it would haveL4[01:05:33] <Amanda> %give MichiBot
peans
L5[01:05:34] *
MichiBot accepts peans and adds it to their inventory
L6[01:05:46] * Amanda
lays her head on Elfi, does a heccen zzzmew
L7[01:05:49] <Amanda> Night girls
L8[01:31:15] <Spider
EveryOS> %tonkout
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkoutL9[01:31:16] <MichiBot> Holy copy of
"the lusty argonian maid" Batman! Spider EveryOS! You
beat RedstoneParkour's previous record of 4 hours, 47 minutes and
58 seconds (By 49 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L10[01:31:17] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS
has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk
points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 2.85840708. Position #1
L11[02:01:16] <Brisingr
Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster
<Brisingr
Aerowing> %splash @ForecasterL12[02:01:16] <MichiBot> You fling a steady
purple potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster's
bed is suddenly slightly less comfortable until they use
"Wenk" in a sentence.
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Joins: Hawk777
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L14[05:22:17] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL15[05:22:18] <MichiBot> Zoinks! Vaur! You
beat Spider EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 51
minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!
L16[05:22:19] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record
is 3 hours, 51 minutes and 1 second! Vaur also gained 0.00385 tonk
points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.02781407 more
points to pass Forecaster!
L17[05:23:10] <Spider
EveryOS> I'll be in bed by the time that's over
<Spider
EveryOS> I'll be in bed by the time that's overL18[05:25:51] <Forecaster> Not quite peas, not quite
beans...
<Forecaster> Not quite peas, not quite
beans...L19[05:34:04] ⇨
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L22[06:29:56] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L23[06:43:13] <Forecaster> CEO of Nvidia says
"don't learn to code, AI will do all coding in the
future"
<Forecaster> CEO of Nvidia says
"don't learn to code, AI will do all coding in the
future"L24[06:43:15] <Forecaster> amazing
<Forecaster> amazingL25[06:43:45] <Forecaster> I'm sure that will work out,
and he's definitely not saying that because they sell chips for
AI
<Forecaster> I'm sure that will work out,
and he's definitely not saying that because they sell chips for
AIL26[06:53:37] <Forecaster> hm...
<Forecaster> hm...L27[06:53:45] <Forecaster> I just had a dumb idea
<Forecaster> I just had a dumb ideaL28[06:54:23] <Forecaster> I was going to have a touch
screen as the interface for the dispenser for choosing which glass
to use and which drink to dispense
<Forecaster> I was going to have a touch
screen as the interface for the dispenser for choosing which glass
to use and which drink to dispenseL29[06:54:31] <Forecaster> but what if I used punch
cards instead...
<Forecaster> but what if I used punch
cards instead...L30[06:55:04] ⇦
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L31[06:55:21] <Forecaster> I just need two sets, one for
the glass and one for the drink, they can be very simple, just one
row of 8 bits to give a single number
<Forecaster> I just need two sets, one for
the glass and one for the drink, they can be very simple, just one
row of 8 bits to give a single numberL32[06:55:46] <Forecaster> then I can print an image of
the glass and the drink on the cards
<Forecaster> then I can print an image of
the glass and the drink on the cardsL33[07:49:54] ⇨
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L34[07:55:37] <stephanj> well, i have a led
nixie clock I control the colours/modes/etc of with tea
containers(the cardboard boxes tea packets come in) - via small
rfid dots
L35[07:55:57] <stephanj> was a party gag
for many a meeting
L36[07:56:06] <Forecaster> rfid dots?
<Forecaster> rfid dots?L37[08:18:12] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> but what if I used punch cards instead...
L38[08:18:12] <Nadja> Do
it.
<Nadja> Do
it.L39[08:30:34] <Forecaster> ah, rfid dots are just very
small rfid tags, makes sense
<Forecaster> ah, rfid dots are just very
small rfid tags, makes senseL40[08:34:00] <Forecaster> definitely overkill for this
though
<Forecaster> definitely overkill for this
thoughL41[08:34:25] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> CEO of Nvidia says "don't learn to code,
AI will do all cod…
L42[08:34:26] <ff_66> if
it is true, then i will never be useful...
<ff_66> if
it is true, then i will never be useful...L43[08:34:41] <Forecaster> it's not...
<Forecaster> it's not...L44[08:55:11] ⇦
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L46[08:56:18] <Forecaster> Here's a good example of why
that is
<Forecaster> Here's a good example of why
that isL47[11:08:27] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> I'm sure that will work out, and he's
definitely not saying…
L48[11:08:28] <Lily> The
pickaxe seller claiming mining is the future and we should all buy
a pickaxe
<Lily> The
pickaxe seller claiming mining is the future and we should all buy
a pickaxeL49[11:10:18] <Lily> I'm
sure absolutely zero ulterior motives are involved
<Lily> I'm
sure absolutely zero ulterior motives are involvedL50[11:17:30] <Forecaster> it's more like, don't buy
pickaxes anymore, big mining machines run by big companies will
take care of all mining in the future
<Forecaster> it's more like, don't buy
pickaxes anymore, big mining machines run by big companies will
take care of all mining in the futureL51[11:19:49] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> it's more like, don't buy pickaxes anymore, big
mining mach…
L52[11:19:49] <ff_66>
that's minecraft when you have Create installed
<ff_66>
that's minecraft when you have Create installedL53[11:20:16] <Forecaster> except you don't buy pickaxes
in minecraft generally
<Forecaster> except you don't buy pickaxes
in minecraft generallyL54[11:20:39] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> except you don't buy pickaxes in minecraft
generally
L55[11:20:39] <ff_66> if
you live in a village ?
<ff_66> if
you live in a village ?L56[11:20:41] <Forecaster> and theres no big company
doing it for you
<Forecaster> and theres no big company
doing it for youL57[11:21:01] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> and theres no big company doing it for
you
L58[11:21:01] <ff_66> if
you are the CEO of the said company ?
<ff_66> if
you are the CEO of the said company ?L59[11:21:44] <Forecaster> also create is far from the
only mod that lets you automate mining
<Forecaster> also create is far from the
only mod that lets you automate miningL60[11:23:29] <ff_66> my
sentence was a realistic example, machines like the digital miner
from mekanism don't exist ... yet
<ff_66> my
sentence was a realistic example, machines like the digital miner
from mekanism don't exist ... yetL61[11:24:21] <Izzy> buildcraft go
brr
L62[11:24:33] <Izzy> ... god, buildcraft is
older than ff_66
L63[11:24:42] <ff_66>
2009 ???
<ff_66>
2009 ???L64[11:25:23] <Corded> > <Izzy>
buildcraft go brr
L65[11:25:23] <ff_66> you
have drones doing everything for you, and i never saw irl a drone
hunting a pig
<ff_66> you
have drones doing everything for you, and i never saw irl a drone
hunting a pigL66[11:25:41] <ff_66> but
mechanical drill...
<ff_66> but
mechanical drill...L67[11:26:04] <Forecaster> what are you talking
about
<Forecaster> what are you talking
aboutL68[11:26:42] <ff_66> in
create, you have mechanical drills to do minig for you
<ff_66> in
create, you have mechanical drills to do minig for youL69[11:26:49] <ff_66> *
mining for you
<ff_66> *
mining for youL70[11:29:47] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL71[11:29:48] <MichiBot> Crud! Forecaster!
You beat Vaur's previous record of 3 hours, 51 minutes and 1
second (By 2 hours, 16 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L72[11:29:49] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 6 hours, 7 minutes and 29 seconds! Forecaster also gained
0.00908 (0.00227 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#2. Need 0.0737189 more points to pass Spider EveryOS!
L73[11:33:31] *
Amanda teaches Elfi the value of the floof, meows and looks
around
L74[11:45:41] <Corded> > <Izzy>
... god, buildcraft is older than ff_66
L75[11:45:42] <Lily>
Izzy: pls, modfest 1.21 is already repeatedly hitting me in the
nostalgia
<Lily>
Izzy: pls, modfest 1.21 is already repeatedly hitting me in the
nostalgiaL76[11:45:55] <Lily> (the
theme is time, technology, and throwbacks)
<Lily> (the
theme is time, technology, and throwbacks)L77[11:46:42] <Corded> > <ff_66>
if you live in a village ?
L78[11:46:43] <Lily>
...ho buys pickaxes from villagers?
<Lily>
...ho buys pickaxes from villagers?L79[11:46:48] <Lily> *
...who buys pickaxes from villagers?
<Lily> *
...who buys pickaxes from villagers?L80[11:46:57] <Lily>
that's incredibly inefficient
<Lily>
that's incredibly inefficientL81[11:48:13] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> also create is far from the only mod that lets
you automate…
L82[11:48:13] <Lily>
buildcraft, IC2 (kinda), mekanism, pneumaticraft, thaumcraft,
...
<Lily>
buildcraft, IC2 (kinda), mekanism, pneumaticraft, thaumcraft,
...L83[11:48:58] <Lily> most
of them end in -craft.
<Lily> most
of them end in -craft.L84[11:50:57] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> ...who buys pickaxes from villagers?
L85[11:50:57] <ff_66>
what if you're in an superflat emerald world ?
<ff_66>
what if you're in an superflat emerald world ?L86[11:52:17] <Corded> > <ff_66>
what if you're in an superflat emerald world ?
L87[11:52:17] <Lily> How
do you mine them in the first place
<Lily> How
do you mine them in the first placeL88[11:52:41] <ff_66> 1.
kill the iron golem
<ff_66> 1.
kill the iron golemL89[11:52:42] <ff_66> 2.
make a pickaxe
<ff_66> 2.
make a pickaxeL90[11:52:55] <Lily>
Also, that sounds very Sisyphean
<Lily>
Also, that sounds very SisypheanL91[11:52:56] <ff_66>
very simple
<ff_66>
very simpleL92[11:53:40] <Lily> An
infinite world of emeralds and their only real use is buying more
pickaxes to mine more emeralds to oh God I've reinvented
capitalism
<Lily> An
infinite world of emeralds and their only real use is buying more
pickaxes to mine more emeralds to oh God I've reinvented
capitalismL93[11:54:21] <Corded> > <ff_66>
1. kill the iron golem
L94[11:54:21] <Corded> 2. make a
pickaxe
L95[11:54:21] <Lily> Also
what if it doesn't drop three
<Lily> Also
what if it doesn't drop threeL96[11:55:28] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> An infinite world of emeralds and their only
real use is bu…
L97[11:55:28] <Lily>
Speaking of emeralds, %splash @Forecaster with emerald potion
<Lily>
Speaking of emeralds, %splash @Forecaster with emerald potionL98[11:55:28] <MichiBot> You fling a knifey
emerald potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster
feels like they should clean up the broken bottle.
L99[11:55:49] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> Also what if it doesn't drop three
L100[11:55:49] <ff_66>
either you wait for another to respawn or you go to another
village
<ff_66>
either you wait for another to respawn or you go to another
villageL101[11:56:57] <Lily> oh,
they respawn?
<Lily> oh,
they respawn?L102[11:57:32] <ff_66>
yes, just wait one day or two
<ff_66>
yes, just wait one day or twoL103[11:58:05] <ff_66> an
i thought the minimal amount the golem drops is... 3 🙂
<ff_66> an
i thought the minimal amount the golem drops is... 3 🙂L104[11:58:14] <nadja> @Lily free psychic
damage: Aether is now on modrinth. The … old one. *Risugami's
ModLoader* old one :P
L105[12:00:54] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> (the theme is time, technology, and
throwbacks)
L106[12:00:54] <Forecaster> I don't want my back thrown
though
<Forecaster> I don't want my back thrown
thoughL107[12:03:38] <Corded> >
<nadja> @Lily free psychic damage: Aether is now on
modrinth. The ……
L108[12:03:38] <Lily>
Nadja: Aargh!
<Lily>
Nadja: Aargh!L109[12:04:05] <Lily> But
why? Preservation, I guess?
<Lily> But
why? Preservation, I guess?L110[12:04:15] <Lily> Also
speaking of Aether: aerbnuuy plush!
<Lily> Also
speaking of Aether: aerbnuuy plush!L111[12:07:00] <nadja> @Lily I assume
preservation, yes. The archivist in me certainly approves of that,
given how Maven works git repositories of mods are not good enough
for archival.
L112[12:24:54] <Corded> >
<nadja> @Lily I assume preservation, yes. The archivist in
me certa…
L113[12:24:54] <Lily> I
kind of wish more mods had CD-based merch
<Lily> I
kind of wish more mods had CD-based merchL114[12:25:03] <Lily>
Botania did one, and it's great
<Lily>
Botania did one, and it's greatL115[12:25:18] <Lily> This
thing'll probably outlive *me!*
<Lily> This
thing'll probably outlive *me!*L116[12:25:30] <Izzy> Did you delete
META-INF?
L117[12:47:41] <nadja> @Lily CDs really
don't live that long, so it should be your stated goal to very much
outlive it ^^
L118[13:08:53] <Forecaster> sssh, the CDs will hear
you
<Forecaster> sssh, the CDs will hear
youL119[13:32:13] <Corded> >
<nadja> @Lily CDs really don't live that long, so it should
be your…
L120[13:32:13] <Lily>
Nadja: How long does the average pressed CD last?
<Lily>
Nadja: How long does the average pressed CD last?L121[13:32:28] <Corded> > <Izzy>
Did you delete META-INF?
L122[13:32:28] <Lily>
Also, Izzy: No but I'm totally going to do this in my Modfest 1.21
submission
<Lily>
Also, Izzy: No but I'm totally going to do this in my Modfest 1.21
submissionL123[13:34:29] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL124[13:34:30] <MichiBot> You drink a soft
grass potion (New!). The next pie Forecaster eats tastes slightly
less good.
L125[13:34:53] <Forecaster> I don't eat pie very often so
I probably wont notice
<Forecaster> I don't eat pie very often so
I probably wont noticeL126[13:40:54] <nadja> @Lily if they're
not designed for archival storage, 20 years at most. If they are
archival media (Sony has some of those) significantly more than 100
years.
L127[13:59:20] <Flameingsoul> wait they are only ment to
last 20?
<Flameingsoul> wait they are only ment to
last 20?L128[14:00:08] <Flameingsoul> i dont belive that
<Flameingsoul> i dont belive thatL129[14:00:16] <Ocawesome101> Does that differ for a
burned CD?
<Ocawesome101> Does that differ for a
burned CD?L130[14:00:47] <Flameingsoul> i mean, i'd assume after
its burn its unusable given its plastic and fire doesent like
plastic all that much
<Flameingsoul> i mean, i'd assume after
its burn its unusable given its plastic and fire doesent like
plastic all that muchL131[14:01:04] <Flameingsoul> ~~thats a joke dont
worry~~
<Flameingsoul> ~~thats a joke dont
worry~~L132[14:01:10] <Ocawesome101> Lmao
<Ocawesome101> LmaoL133[14:01:29] <Flameingsoul> but i got some cd's of
games from before even my older brother was born
<Flameingsoul> but i got some cd's of
games from before even my older brother was bornL134[14:01:43] <Flameingsoul> well there my dad's but
still, i played on some
<Flameingsoul> well there my dad's but
still, i played on someL135[14:02:01] <Flameingsoul> recently-ish too
<Flameingsoul> recently-ish tooL136[14:02:04] <Forecaster> the average lifespan of a cd
is 20 to 50 years
<Forecaster> the average lifespan of a cd
is 20 to 50 yearsL137[14:02:12] <Flameingsoul> ok 50 makes more
sense
<Flameingsoul> ok 50 makes more
senseL138[14:02:23] <Forecaster> so 20 is the minimum you can
reasonably expect
<Forecaster> so 20 is the minimum you can
reasonably expectL139[14:02:29] <Forecaster> but not every cd is the
same
<Forecaster> but not every cd is the
sameL140[14:02:32] <Flameingsoul> by that point i'd expect
them to wear down enough, or get too scratched
<Flameingsoul> by that point i'd expect
them to wear down enough, or get too scratchedL141[14:03:10] <Forecaster> the actual life span depends
on a lot of things, both during manufacturing and usage
<Forecaster> the actual life span depends
on a lot of things, both during manufacturing and usageL142[14:03:20] <Forecaster> and what type of cd it
is
<Forecaster> and what type of cd it
isL143[14:03:52] <Flameingsoul> keep it in a time capsule
and burry it, give it a few long lasting snacks in a seperate
container in it too
<Flameingsoul> keep it in a time capsule
and burry it, give it a few long lasting snacks in a seperate
container in it tooL144[14:04:03] <Flameingsoul> then it will be stored and
safe for a long time :)
<Flameingsoul> then it will be stored and
safe for a long time :)L145[14:04:14] <Forecaster> a commercial audio cd is
expected to last between 50 and 100 years
<Forecaster> a commercial audio cd is
expected to last between 50 and 100 yearsL146[14:04:30] <Forecaster> a DVD-RW is only 5 to 10
years
<Forecaster> a DVD-RW is only 5 to 10
yearsL147[14:04:56] <asie> the
only way to preserve something is to maintain it
<asie> the
only way to preserve something is to maintain itL148[14:05:03] <asie>
circulate the tapes
<asie>
circulate the tapesL149[14:05:08] <Forecaster> you can find a nice table on
this page: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes/longevity-recordable-cds-dvds.html
<Forecaster> you can find a nice table on
this page: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes/longevity-recordable-cds-dvds.htmlL150[14:05:41] <Lily> Huh,
neat.
<Lily> Huh,
neat.L151[14:05:49] <Forecaster> the ones at the top are
specific archival disks that are a tad more expensive then regular
ones
<Forecaster> the ones at the top are
specific archival disks that are a tad more expensive then regular
onesL152[14:06:13] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> a commercial audio cd is expected to last
between 50 and 10…
L153[14:06:13] <Lily> Does
it still count as a commercial audio CD if it's a commercial
audio+data CD?
<Lily> Does
it still count as a commercial audio CD if it's a commercial
audio+data CD?L154[14:06:37] <Forecaster> I believe those are the same
kinds of disk process and material wise yes
<Forecaster> I believe those are the same
kinds of disk process and material wise yesL155[14:06:49] <Lily> Then
yes, this disk is almost certainly going to outlive me
<Lily> Then
yes, this disk is almost certainly going to outlive meL156[14:07:40] <Lily>
Still, even if it doesn't it's a neat piece of merch
nonetheless.
<Lily>
Still, even if it doesn't it's a neat piece of merch
nonetheless.L157[14:07:59] <Lily>
That, and it offsets the plushie-to-nonplushie ratio nicely
:D
<Lily>
That, and it offsets the plushie-to-nonplushie ratio nicely
:DL158[14:08:03] <Lily>
...How many plushies is too many
<Lily>
...How many plushies is too manyL159[14:08:17] <Forecaster> also obviously if you keep
then away from uv light and never use them they'll last
longer
<Forecaster> also obviously if you keep
then away from uv light and never use them they'll last
longerL160[14:08:32] <Lily>
Keeping them away from UV means not exposing them to sunlight,
right
<Lily>
Keeping them away from UV means not exposing them to sunlight,
rightL161[14:08:49] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> ...How many plushies is too many
L162[14:08:49] <Forecaster> there's such a thing as too
many?
<Forecaster> there's such a thing as too
many?L163[14:08:54] <Lily> Good
point!
<Lily> Good
point!L164[14:09:41] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> Keeping them away from UV means not exposing
them to sunlig…
L165[14:09:41] <Forecaster> and people (or other
creatures) walking around with UV flashlights, of course
<Forecaster> and people (or other
creatures) walking around with UV flashlights, of courseL166[14:10:09] <Lily>
Well, I rarely open my curtains and I live on a fourth floor
apartment so I think I'm good
<Lily>
Well, I rarely open my curtains and I live on a fourth floor
apartment so I think I'm goodL167[14:11:19] <Forecaster> * them away from uv light and
never use them they'll last longer
<Forecaster> * them away from uv light and
never use them they'll last longerL168[14:12:18] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> I believe those are the same kinds of disk
process and mate…
L169[14:12:18] <Nadja> Not
necessarily. Pressed CDs do last longer than burned ones, but not
all commercial disks are pressed ones and even the ones that are
aren't all equals, as the Library of Congress very spectacularly
found out. (There's one specific charge of CD produced by one plant
for like 5 years that undergoes a basically unpreventable
chemical
<Nadja> Not
necessarily. Pressed CDs do last longer than burned ones, but not
all commercial disks are pressed ones and even the ones that are
aren't all equals, as the Library of Congress very spectacularly
found out. (There's one specific charge of CD produced by one plant
for like 5 years that undergoes a basically unpreventable
chemicalL170[14:12:18] <Corded> degradation after
just a few years)
L171[14:13:09] <Lily>
...is that degradation intentional?
<Lily>
...is that degradation intentional?L172[14:13:12] <Nadja>
No
<Nadja>
NoL173[14:13:21] <Lily>
Sounds like they should maybe fix their process-
<Lily>
Sounds like they should maybe fix their process-L174[14:13:23] <Lily> Also
I assume you mean, like, pressing plant
<Lily> Also
I assume you mean, like, pressing plantL175[14:13:27] <Nadja>
They did. In 1999.
<Nadja>
They did. In 1999.L176[14:13:29] <Lily> And
not the kind you water
<Lily> And
not the kind you waterL177[14:13:29] <Lily>
Oh.
<Lily>
Oh.L178[14:13:56] <Forecaster> thats why I said actual
lifespan depends on a lot of things 😛
<Forecaster> thats why I said actual
lifespan depends on a lot of things 😛L179[14:14:11] <Lily> I
assume since you said 'very spectacularly' it was a Big Thing
tm
<Lily> I
assume since you said 'very spectacularly' it was a Big Thing
tmL180[14:14:19] <Nadja>
Yeah, but the 20 to 50 years you give are *very* optimistic time
ranges.
<Nadja>
Yeah, but the 20 to 50 years you give are *very* optimistic time
ranges.L181[14:14:34] <Forecaster> well it was from one
source
<Forecaster> well it was from one
sourceL182[14:14:43] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> I assume since you said 'very spectacularly'
it was a Big T…
L183[14:14:43] <Nadja> It
was in the Archival community because everybody started really
panicking all at once.
<Nadja> It
was in the Archival community because everybody started really
panicking all at once.L184[14:14:44] <Forecaster> which is rarely super
accurate
<Forecaster> which is rarely super
accurateL185[14:20:56] <Nadja>
Anyway, archival of digital media is a fun rabbit hole partly
because we actually don't have too much experience with storing
digital data for long times. We have plenty of experience how long
archival-grade paper dyed with archival-grade ink will last (hint:
very, *very* long), but for compact digital media we're still
figuring that
<Nadja>
Anyway, archival of digital media is a fun rabbit hole partly
because we actually don't have too much experience with storing
digital data for long times. We have plenty of experience how long
archival-grade paper dyed with archival-grade ink will last (hint:
very, *very* long), but for compact digital media we're still
figuring thatL186[14:20:56] <Corded> out. That all
being said, archival grade optical disks exist and they do appear
to be very stable for very long times so what asie said also isn't
quite correct :)
L187[14:21:48] <Forecaster> I'll just encode my data and
paint QR codes on paper
<Forecaster> I'll just encode my data and
paint QR codes on paperL188[14:22:09] <Nadja>
Yes, that is one of the ways how we store digital data at the
moment.
<Nadja>
Yes, that is one of the ways how we store digital data at the
moment.L189[14:22:17] <Nadja> Not
*quite* that simplistic, but basically
<Nadja> Not
*quite* that simplistic, but basicallyL190[14:22:38] <Forecaster> hand-paint
<Forecaster> hand-paintL191[14:23:01] <Forecaster> and I'll boldly declare that
I will never regret this decision 😄
<Forecaster> and I'll boldly declare that
I will never regret this decision 😄L192[14:24:26] <Forecaster> a few years ago I read
something about research into storing data in crystals
(diamonds?)
<Forecaster> a few years ago I read
something about research into storing data in crystals
(diamonds?)L193[14:24:38] <Forecaster> I remember it sounded very
Superman-y
<Forecaster> I remember it sounded very
Superman-yL194[14:27:07] <Nadja>
Diamond semiconductors for data storage sounds impressively
expensive.
<Nadja>
Diamond semiconductors for data storage sounds impressively
expensive.L195[14:27:15] <Lily> is
"very very long" in the hundreds or thousands of
years?
<Lily> is
"very very long" in the hundreds or thousands of
years?L196[14:27:16] <Nadja>
Possible, but prohibitively expensive.
<Nadja>
Possible, but prohibitively expensive.L197[14:27:40] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> a few years ago I read something about research
into storin…
L198[14:27:41] <Lily>
Wasn't it quartz?
<Lily>
Wasn't it quartz?L199[14:27:53] <Forecaster> maybe, I just remember the
crystals part
<Forecaster> maybe, I just remember the
crystals partL201[14:28:58] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> is "very very long" in the
hundreds or thousands of years?
L202[14:28:58] <Nadja>
Good archival paper is expected to last at the very least a
millennium. Beyond that it's hard to say because our methods of
simulating/predicting deterioration are not really up to that. So
there's a good chance it's quite a bit longer than a millennium, if
stored correctly.
<Nadja>
Good archival paper is expected to last at the very least a
millennium. Beyond that it's hard to say because our methods of
simulating/predicting deterioration are not really up to that. So
there's a good chance it's quite a bit longer than a millennium, if
stored correctly.L203[14:29:00] <Corded> >
<nadja> Diamond semiconductors for data storage sounds
impressively…
L204[14:29:00] <ff_66>
ohhh... that's why 4MB HDDs costs so much diamo- oh wait, it's
minecraft
<ff_66>
ohhh... that's why 4MB HDDs costs so much diamo- oh wait, it's
minecraftL205[14:29:28] <Corded> >
<nadja> Good archival paper is expected to last at the very
least a…
L206[14:29:28] <Lily> The
answer to "How long?" is "Yes", then
<Lily> The
answer to "How long?" is "Yes", thenL207[14:30:32] <Corded> >
<LilyflowerFDL> The answer to "How long?" is
"Yes", then
L208[14:30:32] <Nadja>
Yes. There's a reason why the symbol for ISO 9706 archival grade
paper is "♾"
<Nadja>
Yes. There's a reason why the symbol for ISO 9706 archival grade
paper is "♾"L209[14:52:47] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL210[14:52:48] <MichiBot> You drink a wild
automato potion (New!). Forecaster gains a negligible amount of
luck.
L211[14:52:57] <Forecaster> Hooray
<Forecaster> HoorayL212[15:34:05] <Brisingr
Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster
<Brisingr
Aerowing> %splash @ForecasterL213[15:34:05] <MichiBot> You fling a
smelly green potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. Dramatic
music briefly plays in the distance.
L214[15:46:29] <Forecaster> huh
<Forecaster> huhL215[15:47:29] <Forecaster> I just got an email from the
CEO of a company that my previous boss worked for, who I have done
some freelance work for over the years
<Forecaster> I just got an email from the
CEO of a company that my previous boss worked for, who I have done
some freelance work for over the yearsL216[15:47:56] <Forecaster> by previous boss is the only
one at that company I've been in contact with, but apparently he
left half a year ago
<Forecaster> by previous boss is the only
one at that company I've been in contact with, but apparently he
left half a year agoL217[15:48:19] <Forecaster> now the CEO wants to meet me
for coffee apparently
<Forecaster> now the CEO wants to meet me
for coffee apparentlyL218[16:06:53] <Ashirg>
Sounds like they're desperate for employees.
<Ashirg>
Sounds like they're desperate for employees.L219[16:10:12] <Ashirg>
%sip coffee
<Ashirg>
%sip coffeeL220[16:10:13] <MichiBot> Ashirg: You
splash Ashirg with coffee. It's scalding hot! Ashirg takes 1d6
=> 3 fire damage!
L221[16:10:25] <Ashirg>
Not what I meant to do
<Ashirg>
Not what I meant to doL222[16:11:07] <Ashirg>
%splash MichiBot
<Ashirg>
%splash MichiBotL223[16:11:07] <MichiBot> You fling a
dashed bombastium potion (New!) that splashes onto MichiBot.
MichiBot feels slightly weaker.
L224[16:11:17] <Ashirg>
Take that
<Ashirg>
Take thatL225[16:11:30] <Michiyo> I
thought she had protections against that...
<Michiyo> I
thought she had protections against that...L226[16:11:32] <ff_66>
Meanwhile me testing bad mods to discover viruses
<ff_66>
Meanwhile me testing bad mods to discover virusesL227[16:11:33] <Michiyo>
guess not.
<Michiyo>
guess not.L228[16:11:53] <ff_66> and
i discovered one virustotal had never seen before !
<ff_66> and
i discovered one virustotal had never seen before !L229[16:12:30] <Corded> >
<Michiyo> I thought she had protections against
that...
L230[16:12:30] <Ashirg>
Yeah, that's the real programmer experience
<Ashirg>
Yeah, that's the real programmer experienceL231[16:12:54] <Ashirg>
Never gets old
<Ashirg>
Never gets oldL232[16:13:33] <Forecaster> she does in some
commands
<Forecaster> she does in some
commandsL233[16:13:41] <Elfi> MichiBot keeps
getting the crappy poor-fitting coffee lids :(
L234[16:13:46] <Elfi> %sip tea
L235[16:13:46] <MichiBot> You drink a
hairy boneboo potion (New!). Elfi thinks "What if, like, *we*
are the potions man?". This makes no sense whatsoever.
L236[16:13:49] <Forecaster> %stab MichiBot
<Forecaster> %stab MichiBotL237[16:13:50] *
MichiBot uses crashed HGV to vaporize Forecaster who takes
[5,3,7,3,9,1,6,8,7,10] damage. Crashed HGV received a call it had
won a million money, it wasn't seen again.
L238[16:13:58] <Michiyo>
lol
<Michiyo>
lolL239[16:14:04] <Forecaster> ouch
<Forecaster> ouchL240[16:14:12] <Elfi> That's a lotta
damage
L241[16:14:27] <Elfi> %splash MichiBot
with coffee
L242[16:14:27] <MichiBot> You fling a
redacted ocean potion (New!) that splashes onto MichiBot. MichiBot
is now Borg for 3 hours.
L243[16:14:34] <Elfi> ...
L244[16:14:37] <Elfi> GOTTA GO
L245[16:15:00] <Michiyo>
Oh hey would you look at that thing over there -> *runs8
<Michiyo>
Oh hey would you look at that thing over there -> *runs8L246[16:15:03] <Michiyo> *
*runs*
<Michiyo> *
*runs*L247[16:16:10] <Ashirg>
Out of random curiosity, what language is she written in?
<Ashirg>
Out of random curiosity, what language is she written in?L248[16:16:39] <Forecaster> the current version is
written in Java
<Forecaster> the current version is
written in JavaL249[16:16:45] <Michiyo>
%source
<Michiyo>
%sourceL250[16:16:46] <MichiBot> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/
L251[16:16:48] <Forecaster> the new version I'm working
on is Node.js
<Forecaster> the new version I'm working
on is Node.jsL252[16:17:38] <Ashirg>
TypeScript?
<Ashirg>
TypeScript?L253[16:18:07] <Forecaster> regular JS
<Forecaster> regular JSL254[16:18:35] <Ashirg>
Not my cup of tea, but it's your bot, not mine.
<Ashirg>
Not my cup of tea, but it's your bot, not mine.L255[16:19:10] <Forecaster> I've never used
typescript
<Forecaster> I've never used
typescriptL256[16:19:53] <Ashirg>
Honestly, I haven't used it much either, I'm just annoyed as JS
sometimes.
<Ashirg>
Honestly, I haven't used it much either, I'm just annoyed as JS
sometimes.L257[16:20:21] <Ashirg> *
at JS sometimes.
<Ashirg> *
at JS sometimes.L258[16:20:49] <Ashirg>
But hey, at least you're not using Brainfuck or something
similar.
<Ashirg>
But hey, at least you're not using Brainfuck or something
similar.L259[16:21:04] <Ashirg>
*Attempt at humour*
<Ashirg>
*Attempt at humour*L260[16:21:36] <Michiyo>
%bf
++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.
<Michiyo>
%bf
++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.L261[16:21:37] <MichiBot> Hello
World!
L262[16:22:00] <Corded> >
<MichiBot> Ashirg: You splash Ashirg with coffee. It's
scalding hot! …
L263[16:22:00] <Lily> Does
she specialcase coffee?
<Lily> Does
she specialcase coffee?L264[16:22:11] <Ashirg>
Seems so
<Ashirg>
Seems soL265[16:22:19] <Ashirg> I
just wanted to drink some coffee...
<Ashirg> I
just wanted to drink some coffee...L266[16:22:35] <Ashirg>
But no, apparently she discriminates against coffee drinkers.
<Ashirg>
But no, apparently she discriminates against coffee drinkers.L267[16:25:23] <Corded> >
<Michiyo> %bf
++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.++++++…
L268[16:25:23] <ff_66>
what was that command ?
<ff_66>
what was that command ?L269[16:25:33] <Michiyo>
Brainfuck
<Michiyo>
BrainfuckL271[16:25:59] <Corded> >
<Ashirg> Sounds like they're desperate for employees.
L272[16:25:59] <Forecaster> This might be correct. He
specifically said a "meeting for coffee without any
commitments"
<Forecaster> This might be correct. He
specifically said a "meeting for coffee without any
commitments"L273[16:26:54] <Forecaster> and if he wanted me to help
on a freelance basis he could have just said that in the
email
<Forecaster> and if he wanted me to help
on a freelance basis he could have just said that in the
emailL274[16:27:24] <Forecaster> also my old boss used to ask
me if I was happy at my current job now and then
<Forecaster> also my old boss used to ask
me if I was happy at my current job now and thenL275[16:27:46] <Corded> >
<Michiyo> Brainfuck
L276[16:27:46] <ff_66>
they did things correctly. now my brain is f*cked because i can't
understand a single character of that code
<ff_66>
they did things correctly. now my brain is f*cked because i can't
understand a single character of that codeL277[16:28:31] <Ashirg>
It's turing complete, but not much more.
<Ashirg>
It's turing complete, but not much more.L278[16:29:09] <Ashirg> In
fact, I think I would rather write a configuration for an universal
turing machine again than learn BF.
<Ashirg> In
fact, I think I would rather write a configuration for an universal
turing machine again than learn BF.L279[16:29:25] <Michiyo>
%bf [->+<]
<Michiyo>
%bf [->+<]L280[16:29:42] <Michiyo>
lol.. I might have broken it...
<Michiyo>
lol.. I might have broken it...L281[16:29:44] <Michiyo>
%test
<Michiyo>
%testL282[16:29:44] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
No.
L283[16:29:48] <Michiyo>
ok good.
<Michiyo>
ok good.L284[16:43:05] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL285[16:43:05] <MichiBot> You drink an
awful yellow potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus!
It sent a message to all of Vaur's friends telling them that they
love them!
L286[16:52:04] ⇦
Quits: Amanda
(~m-yt727s@pool-108-2-215-178.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) (Remote host
closed the connection)
L287[16:53:57]
⇨ Joins: Amanda
(~m-yt727s@pool-108-2-215-178.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
L288[17:39:01] <Vaur>
%tonkoout
<Vaur>
%tonkooutL289[17:39:04] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL290[17:39:04] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
Vaur! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 6 hours, 7 minutes
and 29 seconds (By 1 minute and 46 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L291[17:39:05] <MichiBot> Vaur has stolen
the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points!
plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50%
because stealing) Current score: 2.76129412. Position #3 Need
0.02339407 more points to pass Forecaster!
L292[17:50:35] <Corded> > <Vaur>
%tonkoout
L293[17:50:36] <Michiyo>
Vaur is Canadian convirmed.
<Michiyo>
Vaur is Canadian convirmed.L294[17:50:42] <Michiyo> *
confirmed.
<Michiyo> *
confirmed.L295[17:53:41] <Forecaster> %tonkaboot
<Forecaster> %tonkabootL296[18:16:18] <ff_66>
even us french have these kind of jokes about canada (especially
quebec : "Parce que vous êtes des québécoicoubehs")
<ff_66>
even us french have these kind of jokes about canada (especially
quebec : "Parce que vous êtes des québécoicoubehs")L297[18:56:38] <Amanda> %choose
laptopnaptime?
L298[18:56:38] <MichiBot> Amanda: Ah, I
was just about to do that!
L299[18:56:47] <Amanda> Sounds good
L300[18:57:17] *
Amanda flops down atop Elfi, meows stories to her about a botanist
in a forest full of deadly plants
L301[18:59:59] <Brisingr
Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster
<Brisingr
Aerowing> %splash @ForecasterL302[18:59:59] <MichiBot> You fling a
runny silver potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster.
@Forecaster feels like one particular wasp has it out for them
suddenly.
L303[19:12:43] <Corded> >
<Michiyo> Vaur is Canadian confirmed.
L304[19:12:43] <Nadja>
Thanks now I have to read all of MichiBots messages in
dialect.
<Nadja>
Thanks now I have to read all of MichiBots messages in
dialect.L305[19:14:11] <Michiyo>
MichiBit isn't Canadian though! I'm in the US, Lochie was in
Australia (I think...), and Fore is, wherever Fore is!
<Michiyo>
MichiBit isn't Canadian though! I'm in the US, Lochie was in
Australia (I think...), and Fore is, wherever Fore is!L306[19:15:09] <Michiyo> *
MichiBot isn't Canadian though! I'm in the US, Lochie was in
Australia (I think...), and Fore is, wherever Fore is!
<Michiyo> *
MichiBot isn't Canadian though! I'm in the US, Lochie was in
Australia (I think...), and Fore is, wherever Fore is!L307[19:16:06] <Forecaster> The land of my Forefathers,
of course
<Forecaster> The land of my Forefathers,
of courseL308[20:06:51] <Corded> >
<Michiyo> MichiBot isn't Canadian though! I'm in the US,
Lochie was …
L309[20:06:52] <ff_66>
From what i know, forecaster lives in western europe, like
me.
<ff_66>
From what i know, forecaster lives in western europe, like
me.L310[20:12:23] <Amanda> False. Fore lives
in The Enclosure, he just doesn't realise it yet
L311[20:28:40] <Forecaster> < - <
<Forecaster> < - <L312[20:31:12] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> The land of my Forefathers, of course
L313[20:31:12] <Nadja> Oh
poor you. That must be so sad and boring.
<Nadja> Oh
poor you. That must be so sad and boring.L314[20:33:19] <Forecaster> ?
<Forecaster> ?L315[20:34:56] <Nadja> Ah
mean, imagine growing up in the land of your forefathers. No new
stories, no new experiences, just same old same old not just for
years but for generations!
<Nadja> Ah
mean, imagine growing up in the land of your forefathers. No new
stories, no new experiences, just same old same old not just for
years but for generations!L316[20:36:32] <Nadja> And
instead you could live somewhere entirely different to your
parents, and different yet to your grandparents. Every generation
can tell you a plethora of stories of far off places, can teach you
their different cultures and values
<Nadja> And
instead you could live somewhere entirely different to your
parents, and different yet to your grandparents. Every generation
can tell you a plethora of stories of far off places, can teach you
their different cultures and valuesL317[20:37:06] <Nadja> How
is "living in the land of my forefathers" not the saddest
fate?
<Nadja> How
is "living in the land of my forefathers" not the saddest
fate?L318[20:46:37] <Forecaster> Well, that was a joke,
because **Fore**fathers
<Forecaster> Well, that was a joke,
because **Fore**fathersL319[20:47:23] <Forecaster> also I have plenty of things
to do other than thinking about what my family has been doing
<Forecaster> also I have plenty of things
to do other than thinking about what my family has been doingL320[20:49:11] <Forecaster> and there are worse places to
live than here, like the US...
<Forecaster> and there are worse places to
live than here, like the US...L321[20:55:40] <Michiyo>
Oof.
<Michiyo>
Oof.L322[21:06:33] <Amanda> Hey, it's not all
bad! Occasionally we get a leader who doesn't see us as disposable
peons, until the corporrocty gets them elected out 4 years
later
L323[21:09:15] <Amanda> Plus there's
always some macabre comedy in the leadership, like when we changed
the white house kitchen menu to "Freedom Fries"
L324[21:11:18] <Amanda> %choose
re-computer to wallabag the missing chapters?
L325[21:11:18] <MichiBot> Amanda: Once
the moon cycle restarts you should definitely do it!
L326[21:11:34] <Amanda> Well, it's
constantly in flux, so I guess I shall
L327[21:11:48] <Amanda> But first I'll see
if I can use my tablet to load the site
L328[21:15:15] <Corded> >
<Amanda> False. Fore lives in The Enclosure, he just doesn't
realise…
L329[21:15:15] <ff_66>
Remember the timezone trick ? He has the exact time zone as me,
which means : western europe
<ff_66>
Remember the timezone trick ? He has the exact time zone as me,
which means : western europeL330[21:21:45] <Forecaster> "trick"
<Forecaster> "trick"L331[21:21:47] <Forecaster> right
<Forecaster> rightL332[21:23:54] <Corded> >
<ff_66> Remember the timezone trick ? He has the exact time
zone as…
L333[21:23:54] <Nadja> I
like how you continuously forget that most of Africa is on the same
timezone as "western europe"
<Nadja> I
like how you continuously forget that most of Africa is on the same
timezone as "western europe"L334[21:24:39] <ff_66> You
forgot DST, which is applied in europe but not in africa
<ff_66> You
forgot DST, which is applied in europe but not in africaL335[21:26:54] <Izzy> DST starts here
soon, what a pain
L336[21:28:08] <Forecaster> "Western europe"
isn't really much to show off with
<Forecaster> "Western europe"
isn't really much to show off withL337[21:29:22] <Corded> >
<ff_66> You forgot DST, which is applied in europe but not
in africa
L338[21:29:22] <Nadja>
Which would be a really good point if you *also* didn't forget
about CEST existing last time you did that spiel
<Nadja>
Which would be a really good point if you *also* didn't forget
about CEST existing last time you did that spielL339[21:29:41] <ff_66> At
least i know you're not canadian
<ff_66> At
least i know you're not canadianL340[21:47:09] <Forecaster> Are you sure aboot that
<Forecaster> Are you sure aboot thatL341[21:49:55] <Forecaster> Also, Canada definitely isn't
in "western Europe", so I'm pretty sure that was already
covered
<Forecaster> Also, Canada definitely isn't
in "western Europe", so I'm pretty sure that was already
coveredL342[21:52:13] <Amanda> I wonder if I
could cajole Wolfram alpha or something to give me the approximate
square land mass that a given timezone encompasses
L343[21:54:02] <Forecaster> I mean, it's just a vertical
slice of the earth between two longitudes isn't it?
<Forecaster> I mean, it's just a vertical
slice of the earth between two longitudes isn't it?L344[21:54:33] <Forecaster> There's some formula
somewhere to calculate the area of that for sure
<Forecaster> There's some formula
somewhere to calculate the area of that for sureL345[21:54:36] <Amanda> Have you seen a
map of the earth with timezones overlayed?
L346[21:54:44] <Forecaster> Not recently
<Forecaster> Not recentlyL347[21:55:01] <Amanda> Politics makes it
very much not that
L348[21:55:20] <CompanionCube> e.g the
whole of china is one timezone
L349[21:55:39] <Forecaster> Oh yeah, that... Right I
remember that
<Forecaster> Oh yeah, that... Right I
remember thatL350[21:55:49] <Forecaster> Yeah that would make it
interesting
<Forecaster> Yeah that would make it
interestingL351[21:56:29] <Amanda> The international
date line has a carving struck out of it
L352[21:56:43] <Izzy> love some
UTC+14
L353[21:59:11] <Forecaster> The easiest might be to use a
map where the zones are coloured, find out how much of the image it
takes up, and compare it with a country with a known area to get a
quick and dirty answer
<Forecaster> The easiest might be to use a
map where the zones are coloured, find out how much of the image it
takes up, and compare it with a country with a known area to get a
quick and dirty answerL354[22:00:11] <Forecaster> Although the projection will
make that incredibly unreliable actually...
<Forecaster> Although the projection will
make that incredibly unreliable actually...L355[22:11:45] <Nadja>
Yeah, was about to say. Curse the Mercator projection
<Nadja>
Yeah, was about to say. Curse the Mercator projectionL356[23:13:12] <Spider
EveryOS> %tonk
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkL357[23:13:12] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit!
Spider EveryOS! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 5
hours, 34 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L358[23:13:13] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's
new record is 5 hours, 34 minutes and 8 seconds! Spider EveryOS
also gained 0.00557 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#1.
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