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L1[00:51:03] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/aS1DiW8Um48hyVlH3a5WjNM7WRM6R7jYMWuaAVvr/4ad2d594-5a43-46e5-bbb4-c63654fdbaa0.png
L2[00:51:05] <lunar_sam> \o/
L3[00:51:32] <lunar_sam> playing a 44.1kHz dfpwm stream works
L4[01:29:56] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, meows about her day, and her fancy shiny hat she sto-- found
L5[01:32:45] <Amanda> Night girls
L6[01:33:10] <Amanda> Don't forget to florgal your spangonum before bed
L7[02:12:16] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L8[02:12:17] <MichiBot> Holy corn on the cob Batman! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 54 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L9[02:12:17] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 5 hours, 54 minutes and 50 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00591 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.0418411 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L10[02:16:00] <Li​ly> lunar_sam: remember that DFPWM**1a** is 44.1 iirc
L11[02:16:07] <Li​ly> DFPWM1 is 32767Hz
L12[02:16:25] <Li​ly> oh, no, 1a is 48000
L13[02:16:53] <Li​ly> 32768*
L14[02:16:54] <Li​ly> close enough
L15[02:17:03] <Li​ly> 1.7.10 uses 1, 1.12.2 is 1a
L16[02:20:10] <Izzy> apparently you can set the tape drive speed to anything between 0.25 and 2.0
L17[02:20:19] <Izzy> so you can do 44.1
L18[02:20:35] <Izzy> oh wait you mean that you have to keep in mind the difference when setting the speed
L19[02:20:36] <Izzy> don't mind me
L20[02:20:42] <Li​ly> yeah
L21[02:21:00] <Li​ly> you CAN play 1a in 1.7.10 it just sounds horrible
L22[02:21:46] <Li​ly> ...wait, ffmpeg does dfpwm now?
L23[02:21:53] <Izzy> yup!
L24[02:21:57] <Li​ly> H u h .
L25[02:22:02] <Li​ly> guess I don't need lionray anymore
L26[02:22:06] <Izzy> wild, huh?
L27[02:22:19] <Li​ly> how long has that been a feature?
L28[02:22:32] <Izzy> I think it surprised me like a year ago?
L29[02:23:23] <Li​ly> oh damn
L30[04:30:06] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> how long has that been a feature?
L31[04:30:06] <as​ie> https://patchwork.ffmpeg.org/project/ffmpeg/patch/43daccc7-c618-993e-912d-54e633e8c7f2@gmail.com/#70455 over 2 years now!
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L34[05:14:11] <Izzy> Bluh, kind of a pain that Ender Chest items are stored in the player.dat files
L35[05:14:23] <Izzy> If they were separate I could use syncthing or similar to synchronise them between multiple servers
L36[05:15:58] <Izzy> poor man's ark cluster style
L37[05:46:02] <lunar_sam> @Lily thanks I hate it, guess i'll have a setting in tapeutils to make it switch between both base sample rates (based on minecraft version)
L38[05:46:28] <lunar_sam> like "set this to true if you're running minecraft 1.7.10"
L39[05:47:14] <lunar_sam> because otherwise the math is the same, just taking the sample rate of the track and dividing it by the playback sample rate to set the tape speed lol
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L42[06:46:31] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L43[07:22:01] <Redston​eParkour> lunar_sam: can't you autodetect it somehow?
L44[07:29:58] <Izzy> friends I have made an extremely dubious decision and bought a used Optane H10 module for $20
L45[07:30:12] <Izzy> purely because I want to find out whether I can use it in a ThinkPad A285
L46[07:30:39] <Izzy> (if I can I'll probably end up replacing it with a 1TB variant)
L47[08:03:32] <Kristo​pher38> 🤔
L48[08:03:38] <Kristo​pher38> Lmk how it went
L49[08:03:43] <Izzy> will do
L50[10:39:22] <lunar_sam> @RedstoneParkour *shrug* above my paygrade atm
L51[11:05:48] <Corded> > <Iz​zy> If they were separate I could use syncthing or similar to s…
L52[11:05:48] <Li​ly> Izzy: You could always hack something together to sync *only* the ender chest tag!
L53[11:18:25] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonkout
L54[11:18:25] <MichiBot> Awesome! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 54 minutes and 50 seconds (By 3 hours, 11 minutes and 18 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L55[11:18:26] <MichiBot> Spider ​EveryOS has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.009 tonk points! plus 0.016 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.63987708, Position #2 Need 0.0168411 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L56[11:20:39] <Corded> > <as​ie> https://patchwork.ffmpeg.org/project/ffmpeg/patch/43daccc7-���
L57[11:20:39] <Li​ly> Huh. *Neat.* Now I just have to hope `-ar 32768` works lol
L58[11:21:09] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> lunar_sam: can't you autodetect it somehow?
L59[11:21:09] <Li​ly> the... minecraft version?
L60[11:21:23] <Li​ly> I mean, I'm suire OC 1.12 has some quirks that 1.7 doesn't or maybe the other way around, but
L61[11:29:51] <Amanda> There's a global called _MINECRAFT or something
L62[11:32:34] <Forec​aster> are you sure it's not _MINCERAFT
L63[11:32:47] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> the... minecraft version?
L64[11:32:47] <Redston​eParkour> yes just measure how many bytes are played in a second
L65[11:50:37] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/eUdadLjNWBglhC4KlavEJrBmqg9OTeq94G3jGLAI/7ce1941e-58f6-4a48-b52f-75b97692cc51.png
L66[11:50:58] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/er8bJ6btb5P41guIef03qU9iw7dPEVcY8pPFxrQe/e5189e38-ef6d-4f78-bd5d-e0b33696d42c.png
L67[11:51:01] <lunar_sam> huh okay
L68[12:06:27] <Amanda> %choose factory time or try and be productive first
L69[12:06:27] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Once you get a taste of "factory time" you can't stop.
L70[12:06:43] <Amanda> Sounds good
L71[12:08:38] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/VeZFtlG55Om9TyplXyWjIVXBALqNhFQwqkNOOX1U/975f60ed-6193-483c-8d7e-63baf583cecc.png
L72[12:09:24] <lunar_sam> damn the quality is quite a bit more grim than i first expected
L73[12:11:28] <ff​_66> I finally have a new PC, but the specs are a real scam
L74[12:12:04] <ff​_66> it is as fast, or maybe slower than my PC from 2016
L75[12:12:37] <ff​_66> but it has an Athlon after all...
L76[12:12:59] <ff​_66> (and it runs windows 11 😱 )
L77[12:14:26] <lunar_sam> i need to write something up before i go to bed though
L78[12:31:28] <Amanda> %choose RHD or LHD
L79[12:31:28] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Eeny, meeny, miny, RHD.
L80[12:47:14] <ff​_66> let's go JDM car !!!
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L84[13:35:14] <Corded> > <Ocawes​ome101> Also try updating Java if you haven't already
L85[13:35:15] <Kok​ice5> 8u421, latest java 8 version.
L86[13:35:54] <ff_66> latest is 422 but...
L87[13:36:00] <Corded> > <Ocawes​ome101> Either way I don't think that chipset is supported on Windo…
L88[13:36:01] <Kok​ice5> Wait, did it break because of an update?
L89[13:36:32] <Kok​ice5> Since it did work a year ago.
L90[13:37:22] <Corded> > <ff​_66> latest is 422 but...
L91[13:37:23] <Kok​ice5> Oh sorry, on the site it said 421.
L92[13:38:17] <Corded> > <Kok​ice5> Wait, did it break because of an update?
L93[13:38:18] <Ocawes​ome101> Might be worth trying, like, u381 or something just to see if this is the case
L94[13:38:36] <Ocawes​ome101> At least if it's a Java issue
L95[13:40:03] <ff_66> maybe 422 is an official version idk...
L96[13:40:11] <ff_66> unofficial*
L97[13:40:20] <Corded> > <ff​_66> (and it runs windows 11 😱 )
L98[13:40:20] <Li​ly> consider linux, or at least win10ame
L99[13:40:27] <Li​ly> or tiny11 if you MUST use 11 for some inane reason
L100[13:40:42] <ff_66> it came with it preinstalled, it is a prebuilt
L101[13:40:57] <ff_66> well, more than a prebuilt, a laptop
L102[13:41:23] <Corded> > <Ocawes​ome101> Might be worth trying, like, u381 or something just to see …
L103[13:41:23] <Kok​ice5> Where can I download older versions of java though?
L104[13:41:25] <Li​ly> an athlon, in '24?
L105[13:41:32] <Li​ly> on a laptop, no less
L106[13:41:32] <ff_66> and it is still fine, the manufacturer just didn't have money for a celeron
L107[13:41:42] <Li​ly> what
L108[13:41:43] <Corded> > <Kok​ice5> Where can I download older versions of java though?
L109[13:41:43] <Ocawes​ome101> adoptium.net
L110[13:41:53] <Li​ly> what model athlon, btw
L111[13:42:55] <ff​_66> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1726580575017.jpg
L112[13:43:34] <ff_66> it is an athlon in 2024
L113[13:44:07] <Corded> > <Kok​ice5> Where can I download older versions of java though?
L114[13:44:07] <Ocawes​ome101> https://adoptium.net/temurin/archive/?version=8 specifically, u382 is available
L115[13:44:36] <ff_66> ah, yes, adoptium, i remember that's where i downloaded 422
L116[13:45:02] <Li​ly> the 7120U is about as good as an A12-9800B, apparently
L117[13:45:06] <Li​ly> so it's... actually decent
L118[13:45:15] <Li​ly> (the 9800B is my thinkpad a475's chip)
L119[13:45:23] <ff_66> when it was plugged in, it took ages to load Chrome so...
L120[13:45:34] <Li​ly> that might just be win11's fault.
L121[13:46:48] <ff_66> that's true, but since it is a PC gift by the High school, i can't change the OS i think
L122[13:47:29] <Corded> > <Ocawes​ome101> https://adoptium.net/temurin/archive/?version=8 specificall…
L123[13:47:30] <Kok​ice5> Windows x64 JRE installer, right?
L124[13:47:30] <Kok​ice5> Or binary?
L125[13:47:33] <Ocawes​ome101> Any modern computer with only 8gb of ram is basically e waste
L126[13:47:40] <Corded> > <Kok​ice5> Windows x64 JRE installer, right?
L127[13:47:40] <Corded> Or binary?
L128[13:47:40] <Ocawes​ome101> Yes
L129[13:47:58] <Kok​ice5> Alright.
L130[13:48:11] <ff_66> Ocawesome101: Then i theoretically have 3 e-waste at home
L131[13:48:38] <Corded> > <Ocawes​ome101> Any modern computer with only 8gb of ram is basically e was…
L132[13:48:38] <Li​ly> Ehhhh
L133[13:48:43] <Li​ly> Depends
L134[13:48:58] <Li​ly> I used to use a machine with 2GB, once
L135[13:49:02] <ff_66> it is true when you're gaming :)
L136[13:49:03] <Li​ly> (DDR2)
L137[13:49:18] <ff_66> i have 8GB DDR2 on my Core2 PC
L138[13:49:19] <Ocawes​ome101> Same. I had one with 4GB for a while
L139[13:49:29] <Ocawes​ome101> +also
L140[13:49:37] <ff_66> 8GB on my 2016 PC
L141[13:49:46] <ff_66> 8GB on my new PC
L142[13:50:25] <ff_66> at this point I think my 2016 PC is better than the new laptop...
L143[13:50:29] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> I used to use a machine with 2GB, once
L144[13:50:30] <Li​ly> and an athlon II, funnily enough
L145[13:50:42] <Corded> > <ff​_66> at this point I think my 2016 PC is better than the new lap…
L146[13:50:42] <Li​ly> What specs were your old laptop?
L147[13:50:54] <Ocawes​ome101> Come to think of it I've had laptops with several different power-of-2 amounts of RAM. 2, 4, 8, 16, and 32 lmao
L148[13:50:57] <ff_66> oh, our old PC (before the PSU died) had an athlon 64
L149[13:51:05] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> and an athlon II, funnily enough
L150[13:51:05] <Li​ly> X245, 2.9GHz iirc
L151[13:51:17] <Li​ly> OCed to 3.5 or 3.6 though
L152[13:51:26] <Li​ly> Board was (is, actually!) an ASRock N68-S UCC
L153[13:51:36] <Li​ly> I say "is" because I can turn my head 90 degrees left and still see it :^)
L154[13:51:41] <ff_66> is it me or whe are really speaking about AMD Athlons because of me ?
L155[13:52:23] <Li​ly> Yes and no. an Athlon II X245 is just what that board had
L156[13:52:35] <Li​ly> Funnily enough, IIRC it can support AM3
L157[13:52:42] <Li​ly> Yeah. AM2/AM2+/AM3.
L158[13:53:21] <ff_66> AMD was horrible before the Ryzens, and Intel was dominating the market at that time...
L159[13:56:14] <Ocawes​ome101> Aiui AMD's big strength for a long time was multithreading. Ryzen, specifically zen 3/4, was when they finally got their act together wrt single core performance
L160[13:56:51] <Corded> > <Kok​ice5> Alright.
L161[13:56:51] <Kok​ice5> Turns out, it's probably not a java issue.
L162[13:56:51] <Kok​ice5> I *did* update a lot of drivers between the last time I used OC and now.
L163[13:57:02] <Kok​ice5> So that's probably the issue.
L164[13:57:02] <ff_66> Now that's the invers. Intel is the best when multithreading, that's why Intel stuff is recommended when editing videos for example
L165[15:39:17] <Amanda> Hrm...
L166[15:41:17] <Amanda> Due to my lack of foresight, I can't make these coal plants max out three water pipes
L167[15:41:57] <Amanda> So I guess I'll just have to live with know two mk2 pipes and a single mk1
L168[16:36:09] <Forec​aster> well you know what they say, hindsight is a nat 20
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L171[18:31:58] <gruetzkopf> "best" is a loaded answer
L172[18:32:05] <gruetzkopf> really depends
L173[18:32:09] <gruetzkopf> also reliability
L174[18:37:28] <Forec​aster> It's whichever floats the best obviously
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L176[19:53:51] <Izzy> don't AMD still sell more cores for the money?
L177[20:10:56] * CompanionCube waves his 4gb laptop from 2010 in ocawesome101's face, but i don't think that really counts as modern
L178[20:13:18] <Izzy> more a case of direct-to-ewaste machines nowadays I think
L179[20:13:40] <Izzy> so I am thinking about minitel firewalls again
L180[20:14:54] <Izzy> for a proof-of-concept I'm thinking the idea will be to have a modified minitel daemon that has a per-interface suffix
L181[20:16:49] <Izzy> so any traffic matching that suffix will be sent only to those interfaces, traffic from outside those interfaces matching the suffix will be ignored, and maybe traffic from those interfaces without said suffix will be ignored
L182[20:17:15] <Izzy> but the problem I have to work out is
L183[20:17:29] <Izzy> do I store a FQDN-equivalent in /etc/hostname, or do I make a /etc/domain, or..?
L184[20:20:37] <Amanda> %choose capacity or hoard the spheres
L185[20:20:37] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A wizard is never late, and sometimes engages in some "hoard the spheres".
L186[20:20:43] <Amanda> Hrm. No
L187[20:21:54] <CompanionCube> Izzy: in believe /etc/domainname was historically a thing, so
L188[20:26:36] <Izzy> aha, excellent
L189[20:26:58] <Izzy> I might look into having the minitel daemon construct the node hostname from the two
L190[20:41:39] <Sat​oor> hi, im still bet confused with this mod! does it run in survival ? any way to understand how to install it correctly, because the wikis only explain i need 1 , 2 , 3 items. still not running with me :/
L191[20:42:12] <Forec​aster> What?
L192[20:42:30] <Forec​aster> Are you asking how to build a computer?
L193[20:42:44] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> Are you asking how to build a computer?
L194[20:42:45] <Sat​oor> yes, i mean to use this mod correctly
L195[20:43:02] <Sat​oor> i know lua im still studing this programming language
L196[20:43:23] <Sat​oor> but i get stuck to implement this mod 😄
L197[20:43:49] <Forec​aster> A computer needs a CPU and ram to work, as well as some software to boot
L198[20:44:35] <Forec​aster> Starting out this would be the Lua bios eeprom and an openos floppy
L199[20:45:03] <Sat​oor> i'll check this again
L200[20:45:22] <Forec​aster> To use a screen you obviously need a GPU
L201[20:45:34] <Forec​aster> But technically that's optional
L202[20:46:05] <Sat​oor> https://ftbwiki.org/Lua_BIOS this right?
L203[20:46:22] <Sat​oor> i think i need to read all the wiki again
L204[20:46:29] <Sat​oor> thanks for the assistance
L205[20:46:59] <Forec​aster> If suggests looking at the mod's wiki
L206[20:47:06] <Forec​aster> * I'd suggests looking at the mod's wiki
L207[20:47:36] <Sat​oor> ok i will do now
L208[20:47:40] <Sat​oor> still working on it
L209[20:47:43] <Forec​aster> There are a few tutorials there
L210[20:51:31] <Va​ur> %tonk
L211[20:51:33] <MichiBot> Awesome! Va​ur! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By 9 hours, 33 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L212[20:51:34] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 9 hours, 33 minutes and 6 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00955 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.09101296 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L213[20:52:48] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> There are a few tutorials there
L214[20:52:48] <Sat​oor> ok i think i know where was my error , i choosed the worng version .. i should start with the latest update
L215[20:54:51] <Amanda> %choose wake the laptop for stories or just continue vegging
L216[20:54:52] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A faraway lamp replies something inaudible.
L217[20:54:55] <Sat​oor> thanks a lot @Forecaster it's worked with me now all good
L218[20:55:07] <Sat​oor> i can start play with this and test it 😄
L219[21:32:05] <Va​ur> %sip
L220[21:32:06] <MichiBot> You drink a sour tomato potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind Vaur. They don't stop.
L221[22:39:29] <Amanda> Elfi~ why isn't the last coal plant in row three getting enough water?
L222[22:42:38] <Amanda> Are you doing a heccen sippie of the water, Elfi?
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L224[22:58:28] <Amanda> Ah-ha! one of the water extractors wasn't overclocked like it should have been
L225[23:27:15] <Amanda> Hrm
L226[23:30:36] <Amanda> Elfi~ Should I settle for 480 coal/min or hold out so I can get the extra 20coal/min in the future?
L227[23:35:28] <Amanda> I'll settle for 3x 480 coal belts
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