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L2[00:46:04] * Amanda drags Elfi into a pawhug, purrs softly and does a heccen zzzmew as she's exhausted today already
L3[00:52:31] <Amanda> Night girls
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L8[03:44:28] <ECSX> Хеллоу
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L13[04:24:50] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L14[04:24:51] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Forec​aster! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of 3 hours, 35 minutes and 29 seconds (By 1 hour, 7 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L15[04:24:52] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 42 minutes and 38 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00448 (0.00112 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.01288092 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L18[06:39:40] <Mic​hiyo> *sigh* I lost all of my MC instances
L19[06:40:17] <Jas​onS> How
L20[06:40:25] <Jas​onS> Failed HDD/SSD?
L21[06:44:14] <Forec​aster> damn passage of time, why wont anyone put a stop to it D:
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L23[06:53:07] <ff​_66> lesson 1 : always make a copy of important things every month
L24[06:54:37] <ff​_66> lesson 2 : store copies at different places in case you have a fire for example
L25[06:56:25] <Redston​eParkour> the 3 2 1 rule?
L26[06:56:51] <Redston​eParkour> (3 backups, 2 of them on a different computer, 1 of them off-site)
L27[06:57:47] <Forec​aster> not sure minecraft saves qualify as important
L28[06:58:40] <Redston​eParkour> depends
L29[06:59:20] <Forec​aster> well, excluding the one I use to keep all my passwords in an OC computer
L30[07:11:40] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> the 3 2 1 rule?
L31[07:11:41] <ff​_66> yes
L32[07:12:08] <Izzy> big brain for databases: live replication and taking separate backups at each site
L33[07:12:26] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> not sure minecraft saves qualify as important
L34[07:12:27] <ff​_66> if the save is the first time you ever played minecraft... i think you would cry
L35[07:13:33] <Redston​eParkour> if its a directory you could make a git repo in it, set up a cron job (or windows scheduler task) to automatically commit every week or so and use something like Syncthing to sync the .git directory (potentially encrypted) to the other 2 computers
L36[07:14:26] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> if its a directory you could make a git repo in it, set up …
L37[07:14:27] <ff​_66> basically that's what onedrive does, right ?
L38[07:14:38] <Redston​eParkour> no clue how onedrive wroks
L39[07:14:40] <Redston​eParkour> works*
L40[07:15:12] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> no clue how onedrive wroks
L41[07:15:12] <ff​_66> every time you change a file in a synced directory it syncs with the cloud
L42[07:15:55] <Redston​eParkour> that would also work instead of syncthing then
L43[07:16:06] <ff​_66> but if you need a lot of space then onedrive is paid
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L47[07:19:26] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> (3 backups, 2 of them on a different computer, 1 of them of…
L48[07:19:26] <ff​_66> no its not 2 of them in a different computer its 2 types of storage (for example one HDD and one SSD)
L49[07:19:34] <Redston​eParkour> oh
L50[07:19:51] <Redston​eParkour> wait 2 types of storage?
L51[07:23:12] <Li​ly> **it still works** https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722496992464.jpg
L52[07:23:14] <ff​_66> you can't just put everything in 1 type of storage, you always need at least 2
L53[07:23:37] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> **it still works**
L54[07:23:38] <Li​ly> context: olivetti M10
L55[07:23:53] <Forec​aster> as long as the storage method is reasonably reliable that hardly matters
L56[07:24:06] <ff​_66> for example a CD can last hundreds of years when an SSD can last way less but is faster
L57[07:24:25] <Redston​eParkour> makes sense
L58[07:24:52] <ff​_66> some planes even uses today floppies
L59[07:25:27] <ff​_66> if i remember the airbus a320 is one of these
L60[07:26:58] <Forec​aster> depends on the type of CD and the conditions
L61[07:28:09] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> depends on the type of CD and the conditions
L62[07:28:09] <ff​_66> it can last very long if it is in a well protected box since it is made out of plastic
L63[07:30:30] <Forec​aster> one of the best format by far in terms of longevity is M-disc
L64[07:30:36] <Forec​aster> * formats by far in terms of longevity is M-disc
L65[07:31:15] <Va​ur> %sip
L66[07:31:15] <MichiBot> You drink a serif-only pear potion (New!). A tiny cloud appears with a ridiculous smile on it. It follows Vaur until someone stabs them.
L67[07:31:29] <ff​_66> "Until 2019, the US still used floppy disks to store codes for their nuclear arsenal though they have since modernised their computers and thus ditched the floppy."
L68[07:31:29] <ff​_66>
L69[07:31:29] <ff​_66> - [The Star](<https://www.thestar.com.my/news/true-or-not/2023/08/07/quickcheck-is-it-true-that-floppy-disks-are-still-in-use&gt;)
L70[07:32:12] <Forec​aster> I use industrial machines from the early 90s that still have floppy drives in them
L71[07:32:20] <Forec​aster> but it's not because it's a good format
L72[07:32:43] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> but it's not because it's a good format
L73[07:32:43] <ff​_66> because computers from the 90s have them
L74[07:32:48] <ff​_66> and floppies are cheap
L75[07:33:19] <Forec​aster> cheap and unreliable
L76[07:33:21] <Forec​aster> I hate them
L77[07:33:28] <Forec​aster> and avoid using them as much as possible
L78[07:41:44] <Li​ly> OK, "work" might be stretching it. https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722498104148.png https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722498104325.png
L79[07:41:56] <Li​ly> It turns on though!!
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L81[07:57:05] <Va​ur> %sip
L82[07:57:05] <MichiBot> You drink a runny violium potion (New!). Suddenly there's a swarm of wasps behind Vaur that chase them for 53 seconds!
L83[08:09:04] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> OK, "work" might be stretching it.
L84[08:09:04] <Li​ly> yeah https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722499743942.jpg
L85[08:09:14] <Li​ly> is this what pain looks like
L86[08:09:52] <Forec​aster> what is that
L87[08:13:14] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> what is that
L88[08:13:14] <Li​ly> olivetti M10, in apparently excruciating pain
L89[08:13:24] <Li​ly> given by the, uh, contents of the screen'
L90[08:13:25] <Li​ly> * screen
L91[08:15:31] <Forec​aster> cute thing
L92[08:35:24] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> olivetti M10, in apparently excruciating pain
L93[08:35:24] <ff​_66> what processor inside ?
L94[08:35:49] <ff​_66> i only know that the M19 has an 8088
L95[09:18:42] <lily> 80C85, apparently.
L96[09:19:10] <ff​_66> ah it is very old then, before the PC existed
L97[09:19:45] <Forec​aster> but it looks like it came out yesterday
L98[09:20:02] <ff​_66> time machine moment
L99[09:20:33] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> but it looks like it came out yesterday
L100[09:20:33] <Li​ly> ha, nah. this one is surprisingly well preserved
L101[09:20:38] <Li​ly> for... being found in a box
L102[09:29:52] <Forec​aster> boxes are a common place for things to be found
L103[09:30:12] <Forec​aster> especially cats
L104[09:30:17] <ff​_66> that's where you find treasure loot
L105[09:30:33] <ff​_66> oh wait that's in chests sorry
L106[10:36:43] <Va​ur> %tonk
L107[10:36:43] <MichiBot> Swell! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 4 hours, 42 minutes and 38 seconds (By 1 hour, 29 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L108[10:36:44] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 6 hours, 11 minutes and 53 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00745 (0.00149 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.05183816 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L109[10:41:01] * Amanda meows and looks around
L110[10:45:10] * Amanda spots Elfi sleepy-clinging to the controls for the potion thrower, meows at her
L111[10:46:37] <lily> This is why you always carry a portable one:
L112[10:46:41] <lily> %splash Forecaster mutable potion
L113[10:46:41] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable titanium potion (New!) that splashes onto Forecaster. Forecaster turns into a coralcreep turtle girl until they recite the litany against fear.
L114[10:47:46] <Amanda> Kappa girl! Elfi, lookit!
L115[10:51:50] <Forec​aster> Fear is the mind killer, fear is the little death that brings total obliteration!
L116[11:00:49] <Amanda> D:
L117[11:06:28] <Va​ur> %sip
L118[11:06:28] <MichiBot> You drink an aligned tiberium potion (New!). It tastes salty.
L119[11:25:28] <lily> Must have been chaotically aligned
L120[11:25:30] <lily> %sip
L121[11:25:30] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating white potion (New!). lily: Nothing seemed to happen...
L122[11:31:54] <Va​ur> %sip
L123[11:31:54] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating quicksilver potion (New!). Vaur gains some curse. Vaur has 1 curse. (Rem. uses: 2)
L124[12:05:54] <Forec​aster> %sip
L125[12:05:54] <MichiBot> You drink a rather weather potion (New!). Forecaster: Nothing seemed to happen...
L126[12:13:08] <Forec​aster> I can't believe you would do this to me MichiBot
L127[12:15:31] <Corded> > <Forec​aster> Fear is the mind killer, fear is the little death that brin…
L128[12:15:31] <Na​dja> That's not the entire litany!
L129[12:20:46] <Forec​aster> No but she didn't say it had to be the entire thing either
L130[12:21:12] <Forec​aster> (It's definitely not because I don't know the rest)
L131[12:23:44] <Li​ly> wonder if this M10 will stop screaming
L132[12:24:42] <Forec​aster> No, may it suffer eternally. It knows what it did.
L133[12:24:50] <Li​ly> The display DOES light up
L134[12:25:02] <Li​ly> But, uh, all of it is active.
L135[12:25:09] <Li​ly> So it just fills the screen
L136[12:27:40] <Li​ly> There's an audible click on power-on, but that might be a capacitor.
L137[12:30:40] <Li​ly> hmm, I may need these replaced. https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722515440372.jpg
L138[12:30:55] <Li​ly> (the orange... capacitors, I think?)
L139[12:31:40] <Li​ly> ...it just beeped at me!
L140[12:32:02] <Li​ly> Still not, uh, usable. But, progress!
L141[12:32:32] <Li​ly> ...no? https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722515551831.jpg
L142[12:32:41] <Li​ly> "29638 Bytes free" "Memory full" Make up your mind! >:C
L143[12:36:08] <ff​_66> you can have sound at least ? (i mean, other than beeps ?)
L144[12:36:29] <Li​ly> Other than beeps? No idea.
L145[12:36:38] <Li​ly> I wonder if one of the memory expansion chips is faulty?
L146[12:37:15] <ff​_66> there are memory expansions on it ?
L147[12:37:43] <Li​ly> Yeah
L148[12:37:51] <Li​ly> You can expand the M10 up to 32K
L149[12:38:00] <Li​ly> This one has all three
L150[12:38:03] <ff​_66> and it has 16 KB base ?
L151[12:38:07] <Li​ly> And the other board I found *also* has all three
L152[12:38:08] <Li​ly> No, 8K
L153[12:38:23] <ff​_66> found the wiki about it
L154[12:38:41] <ff​_66> but it is in italian 😭
L155[12:38:53] <Li​ly> Various non-Italian user manuals exist online
L156[12:39:02] <Li​ly> https://electrickery.hosting.philpem.me.uk/comp/m10/guide/
L157[12:39:27] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> Various non-Italian user manuals exist online
L158[12:39:27] <ff​_66> some infos doesn't exist on the manuals (maybe)
L159[12:40:12] <Li​ly> It also comes with 32K of ROM
L160[12:40:22] <ff​_66> and basic ?
L161[12:40:29] <Li​ly> Yes, a BASIC interpreter
L162[12:57:26] <lily> Holy shit it's 1am
L163[12:57:28] <lily> I need a sleep
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L165[12:57:39] <Li​ly> Night folks
L166[13:07:35] <ff​_66> just saw that you can connect a barcode reader to the m10
L167[13:28:04] <Va​ur> %sip
L168[13:28:04] <MichiBot> You drink a woolly caterium potion (New!). Vaur grows slightly for 29 minutes.
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L171[14:30:56] <Forec​aster> Pretty sure capacitors shouldn't click...
L172[14:48:26] <Va​ur> %sip
L173[14:48:26] <MichiBot> You drink a salty boneboo potion (New!). Gravity reverses for Vaur until someone baps them.
L174[14:49:01] <ff​_66> i hope you're not outside 🤣
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L176[14:51:57] <Corded> > <Lilyfl​owerFDL> Still not, uh, usable. But, progress!
L177[14:51:57] <ff​_66> my main concern is that things that should be at the bottom are at the top
L178[14:52:02] <Va​ur> I'm not
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L180[14:56:13] <ff​_66> and also did you try removing any RAM/ROM expansion and see if it works ?
L181[14:56:13] <ff​_66> -# I don't think it'll work but at least give it a try
L182[16:34:27] <Kristo​pher38> @Lily what's this device?
L183[16:45:02] <Corded> > <Kristo​pher38> @Lily what's this device?
L184[16:45:02] <Forec​aster> She said it's an "olivetti M10"
L185[16:51:22] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L186[16:51:22] <MichiBot> Wah! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours, 11 minutes and 53 seconds (By 2 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L187[16:51:23] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.62589092, Position #2 Need 0.03583816 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
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L192[17:47:52] <Corded> > <Kristo​pher38> @Lily what's this device?
L193[17:47:52] <ff​_66> it is a device produced from 1983 to 1985 and it embeds an 80C85 (compatible with the i8085), 8kb of ram (can be expanded to 32kb) and 32kb of ROM
L194[17:52:12] <ff​_66> its basically a portable computer
L195[17:58:22] <Amanda> ... -a rebooted itself again
L196[17:59:12] <Amanda> about 12h ago
L197[17:59:58] <ff​_66> do you think a 14-year old computer can play beamNG.drive 0.3 ? (no vulkan support and no linux support at the time -> must use vbox)
L198[18:01:21] <ff​_66> oh i think i forgot the insane boot time of windows
L199[18:02:48] <ff​_66> ok now i've got a black screen after login 😭
L200[18:05:32] <ff​_66> huuuuuuuhhhh how can windows know its a VM ??? https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722535532486.png
L201[18:05:47] <Amanda> By the hardware the VM is emulating
L202[18:06:19] <ff​_66> i mean, ok viruses are able to do that, but why windows would ever need to do that ?
L203[18:06:50] <ff​_66> and no i don't consider windows as a spyware for what i'm doing
L204[18:08:00] <ff​_66> and also why it doesn't have any cache ?
L205[18:09:43] <ff​_66> i've got so many questions right now...
L206[18:10:51] <ff​_66> apparently tiny10 is based of windows enterprise LTSC, so i think in october 2025 i'll use it for my secondary PC
L207[18:13:17] <ff​_66> oh i know why its so laggy
L208[18:13:37] <ff​_66> pls why microsoft ??? https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722536017171.png
L209[18:16:05] <ff​_66> i just checked windows update and i have 5 critical updates 😭
L210[18:17:46] <Amanda> %choose wait for stable or use betas
L211[18:17:46] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I sense some "use betas" in your future!
L212[18:18:09] <Amanda> Hrm
L213[18:20:29] <Forec​aster> but is it a good future
L214[18:21:49] <Amanda> Welp, I've got no choice
L215[18:21:53] <Amanda> stable it is
L216[18:24:34] <Va​ur> %sip
L217[18:24:34] <MichiBot> You drink a shiny ruby potion (New!). After drinking the potion Vaur realizes the bottle has their face on it.
L218[18:33:26] <Amanda> Neat. krfb-virtualmonitor is pretty cool
L219[18:33:41] <ff​_66> what ?
L220[18:33:46] <Amanda> My tablet is now acting as a second monitor for my laptop
L221[18:34:01] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> My tablet is now acting as a second monitor for my laptop
L222[18:34:01] <ff​_66> ideal for drawing
L223[18:34:18] <Amanda> If I could draw worth a damn, maybe
L224[18:35:24] <Amanda> I just manually did what a plugin in kde-connect does, but the kde-connect plugin is currently bugged. That's what was making me consider beta software, it's possibly fixed in the latest betas, but I'll just wait for the update to hit proper
L225[18:36:05] <ff​_66> i think i didn't start the vm for a while
L226[18:37:01] <ff​_66> it's telling me its missing important security and quality updates
L227[18:37:25] <ff​_66> i can't even pause updates
L228[18:38:25] <ff​_66> the computer is so slow i can see the menus being constructed
L229[18:44:51] <ff​_66> ok meanwhile its updating i'm copying - oh sh*t thats 0.27 not 0.3
L230[18:45:02] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?
L231[18:45:03] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I've heard that such things lead to bad luck
L232[18:45:19] <Amanda> Well, it's inevitable, so might as well do it now
L233[18:45:42] <ff​_66> she has heard that could happen, it can be fake news
L234[18:51:33] <ff​_66> sure this web page is not responding, microsoft edge, because windows update is downloading five updates at the same time, so now let me download the techdemo !
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L237[18:58:33] <ff​_66> ok so apparently the version i've picked up is the full version, but thats not a problem...
L238[18:59:49] <ff​_66> guess i'll die... https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1722538789456.png
L239[19:00:23] <ff​_66> i'm not using a modem, i'm just using windows
L240[19:01:32] <Forec​aster> get a faster ~~modem~~ windows
L241[19:01:51] <ff​_66> its tiny10, and i need to use a vm
L242[19:02:27] <ff​_66> because my pc is too old for vulkan and is too old for direct linux support
L243[19:02:40] <ff​_66> and i've tried wine
L244[19:04:05] <ff​_66> i just received a loud notification about the virus protection being outdated
L245[19:04:34] <ff​_66> and my network is not even 100%, its just a slow vm
L246[19:10:57] <ff​_66> oh wait i'm dumb i could use windows xp
L247[19:11:33] <ff​_66> beamng only requires D3D9.0c, which is available on SP3
L248[19:12:21] <ff​_66> i'll retry tomorrow then
L249[19:36:42] <Amanda> Oh no, the bad luck curse hit. I realized I forgot to update one of my stories, the horror
L250[19:37:32] <Amanda> %remindme 16h update girl gun
L251[19:37:33] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "update girl gun" in 16h at 08/02/2024 11:37:32 AM
L252[19:38:53] <Forec​aster> if that's the actual name they could have been a bit more creative
L253[19:40:10] <Amanda> Nah
L254[19:40:47] <Amanda> It's actually gun girl from another world
L255[19:41:04] <Amanda> ( https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/75408/gun-girl-from-another-world )
L256[19:41:08] <Forec​aster> I wouldn't say that's much better...
L257[19:44:14] <Amanda> Good story though.
L258[19:54:36] <Amanda> %choose factory?
L259[19:54:36] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: What even is that? Oh right, sure!
L260[21:54:06] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L261[21:54:06] <MichiBot> Boom! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 2 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L262[21:54:07] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 2 minutes and 44 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00505 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.03128092 more points to pass Va​ur!
L263[22:24:03] <Corded> > <ff​_66> because my pc is too old for vulkan and is too old for dire…
L264[22:24:03] <Ocawes​ome101> can it do dx11? that may be the minimum version for modern beamng but don't quote me on that
L265[23:41:07] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p200300eaef06a8009cfe374a6e8125f0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L266[23:58:03] <scj643> I wonder if anyone still remembers me
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