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L1[00:49:32] <S​3> Moo
L2[00:49:39] <S​3> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1718930978843.jpg
L3[00:54:52] * Amanda flops down atop Elfi,does a heccen zzzmew
L4[00:55:49] <Amanda> Hopefully I don't sleep weird again and I can stand without something in my pelvis hurting
L5[00:56:50] <Amanda> Night girls
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L11[06:00:17] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk
L12[06:00:18] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Redston​eParkour! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of 10 hours, 49 minutes and 45 seconds (By 31 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L13[06:00:19] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour's new record is 11 hours, 21 minutes and 34 seconds! RedstoneParkour also gained 0.00583 (0.00053 x 11) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #11. Need 0.02829 more points to pass walks​anator!
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L29[11:19:17] * Amanda meows and looks around
L30[11:19:29] <Forec​aster> Aaaaah!
L31[11:19:38] <Forec​aster> oh wait, you didn't scream this time
L32[11:28:32] <Amanda> I didn't wake up I'm pain today, so why would I scream?
L33[11:29:04] <Amanda> I'm not like those noisy foxen who just scream outside people's windows for no reason
L34[11:29:04] <Forec​aster> existential dread? I dunno
L35[11:29:33] <Forec​aster> pretty sure that's one of the things cats are known for
L36[11:34:26] <Forec​aster> %sip
L37[11:34:27] <MichiBot> You drink an excluded electrum potion (New!). Gravity reverses for Forecaster until they have some bacon.
L38[11:34:34] <Forec​aster> uh oh
L39[11:41:58] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable electrum potion
L40[11:41:58] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable electrum potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a citrus frog boy until they have a muddy transparent potion.
L41[11:42:01] <Amanda> This'll help
L42[11:42:34] <Forec​aster> How D:<
L43[11:44:36] <Amanda> Now you can jump off of planes as you float up!
L44[11:44:45] <Amanda> duh
L45[11:48:09] <Forec​aster> There aren't that many planes > - >
L46[12:43:57] <Amanda> Just have to find one and keep jumping on it!
L47[13:06:35] <Izzy> %remindme 2d8h remind pa to call k
L48[13:06:35] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "remind pa to call k" in 2d8h at 06/23/2024 09:06:35 PM
L49[13:15:28] <Amanda> %choose take the base-ship out or wait and gather some O2 first
L50[13:15:29] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A wizard is never late, and sometimes engages in some "take the base-ship out".
L51[13:20:28] <Amanda> ... base-ship is moving at 4m/s
L52[13:22:33] * Amanda meows at Izzy to stop deleting her viruses on mars
L53[13:36:00] <Forec​aster> have you considered not trying to infect mars?
L54[13:36:38] <Amanda> that's no fun
L55[13:57:41] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> *Gives @Forecaster bacon*
L56[13:57:53] <Forec​aster> hooray
L57[13:57:57] <Forec​aster> ground sweet ground
L58[13:58:04] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster
L59[13:58:04] <MichiBot> You fling a goopy iron potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster: Nothing seemed to happen...
L60[13:58:09] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> ...
L61[13:58:15] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Well that was anticlimatic.
L62[13:59:23] <Forec​aster> %splash @Brisingr Aerowing
L63[13:59:24] <MichiBot> You fling a safe radiation potion (New!) that splashes onto @Brisingr. The next remote @Brisingr looks for is extra hard to find.
L64[15:11:04] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> They're usually extra hard to find, as my mom tends to lose them in the weirdest places (like the refrigerator or her bathroom cabinets).
L65[15:12:04] <Amanda> I've dropped a remote and lost it for a couple hours, because it fell into the tissue box
L66[15:12:16] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Had that happen once as well.
L67[15:12:51] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> She's also put them in her purse and ended up taking them to various appointments.
L68[15:24:16] <Va​ur> %sip
L69[15:24:17] <MichiBot> You drink a woolly tiberium potion (New!). Vaur feels chill.
L70[15:56:57] <Forec​aster> %sip
L71[15:56:58] <MichiBot> You drink a powdery solarium potion (New!). Forecaster sees the sky briefly flash solid dark blue then go back to normal.
L72[15:57:28] <Forec​aster> someone is playing with the sky's video cable again
L73[16:03:28] <Va​ur> %sip
L74[16:03:28] <MichiBot> You drink a rising coralcreep potion (New!). A voice whispers a secret into Vaur's ear only they can hear.
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L76[16:33:22] <Va​ur> %sip
L77[16:33:22] <MichiBot> You drink a concentrated rock potion (New!). Vaur now has a mullet until they eat a pie.
L78[16:33:50] <Forec​aster> The best haircut
L79[17:34:48] <Va​ur> so ... its seems I have misunderstood that words
L80[17:35:01] <Va​ur> I always thought it was a mule 😄
L81[17:38:52] <Forec​aster> that's very different
L82[17:40:51] <Va​ur> indeed
L83[17:42:04] <Forec​aster> a mule would make a terrible haircut
L84[17:46:00] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L85[17:46:00] <MichiBot> Yow! Forec​aster! You beat Redston​eParkour's previous record of 11 hours, 21 minutes and 34 seconds (By 24 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L86[17:46:01] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.011 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 2.16146. Position #2 Need 0.0188718 more points to pass Spider ​EveryOS!
L87[17:46:22] <Forec​aster> gonna need another one of those
L88[17:46:53] <Va​ur> %sip
L89[17:46:53] <MichiBot> You drink a boiling tuna potion (New!). Vaur gains the proportional strength of a frog for 9 moons.
L90[17:47:12] <Va​ur> hey, I'm stronger
L91[17:47:24] <Forec​aster> well, frogs have strong legs
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L93[18:39:33] <Amanda> aaaaAAAaaaa
L94[18:39:43] <Amanda> I forgot the fucking mushrooms for this trade mission back at base
L95[18:47:18] <Forec​aster> you should have thought of that before you forgot the mushrooms
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L97[19:11:54] <Va​ur> %sip
L98[19:11:54] <MichiBot> You drink a soft sky potion (New!). The bottle turns into a sword.
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L102[20:56:15] <Amanda> Bah
L103[20:56:35] <Amanda> I wish the wallbag extension for firefox allowed you to select text to be uploaded to wallabag, instead of guessing
L104[20:57:06] <Amanda> Because it never seems to guess right for patreon, downloading random other posts in the page instead of the one I have loaded
L105[20:57:44] <Forec​aster> But eventually it'll get the right one!
L106[20:57:48] <Forec​aster> Probably
L107[21:05:40] <Amanda> Hahaha, I win!
L108[21:05:58] <Amanda> I just went into the firefox dev tools and just deleted the fucking "Related Posts" box entirely
L109[21:06:16] <Amanda> I should try and figure out a greasemonkey script to do that for me
L110[21:08:46] <Amanda> %choose let self be nerd-sniped or laptopnaptime
L111[21:08:46] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "let self be nerd-sniped"
L112[21:08:50] <Amanda> Hrm. nah
L113[21:10:05] <Forec​aster> But I was just about to go get my umm-actually-rifle D:
L114[21:15:25] <Ha​zel> does anybody here know anything about OC2
L115[21:16:12] <Hawk777> I’m an anybody, I’m here, and I know something. Not a lot, but something!
L116[21:17:18] <Amanda> @Hazel don't ask to ask, just ask. If somebody knows they'll answer
L117[21:17:19] <Ha​zel> what is this https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1719004639535.png
L118[21:17:33] <Forec​aster> It's a login screen
L119[21:17:39] <Ha​zel> yeah but for what
L120[21:17:42] <Amanda> Type "root"
L121[21:17:42] <Hawk777> Sedna is the name of the mod that implements the CPU emulation, IIRC. And then yes, it’s asking you to log into Linux.
L122[21:18:05] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> Type "root"
L123[21:18:05] <Ha​zel> is that it
L124[21:18:24] <Amanda> Oc2 is an emulator running a full Linux image
L125[21:18:29] <Ha​zel> alright
L126[21:18:32] <Amanda> Yes, iirc there's no root password
L127[21:18:54] <Ha​zel> can it run linux operating systems
L128[21:19:12] <Hawk777> Yes, it already is, that”s what you’re logging into.
L129[21:19:21] <Ha​zel> yeah but i mean
L130[21:19:39] <Ha​zel> gui operating systems
L131[21:19:45] <Hawk777> You mean desktop environments?
L132[21:19:47] <Ha​zel> yeah
L133[21:19:49] <Ha​zel> sorry
L134[21:19:51] <Hawk777> Probably not.
L135[21:19:58] <Hawk777> I don’t think the screen is graphics-capable.
L136[21:20:24] <Forec​aster> Did you not try looking up what "sedna" is
L137[21:20:30] <Ha​zel> i did
L138[21:21:31] <Forec​aster> Huh, some kind of database system comes up when you do that apparently, interesting
L139[21:23:11] <Hawk777> I get mostly a distant dwarf planet.
L140[21:30:40] <Ocawes​ome101> OC2 can do 640x480 with projectors iirc ... slowly
L141[21:31:30] <Hawk777> Oh, I guess you could possibly make some kind of Xorg driver for that then… I can imagine it being really really really slow though.
L142[21:31:44] <Ha​zel> what is xorg
L143[21:31:51] <Ha​zel> i dont know much about linux
L144[21:32:00] <Ha​zel> or software in general
L145[21:32:19] <Ha​zel> i used mineos with oc but im using 1.20.1 currently
L146[21:32:36] <Ha​zel> so i only have oc2
L147[21:33:45] <Hawk777> Xorg is the software that provides the foundation of Linux GUIs on general-purpose platforms.
L148[21:34:01] <Ha​zel> oh
L149[21:34:02] <Hawk777> So it has parts of e.g. GPU drivers, input device handling, window management, and that sort of thing.
L150[21:34:10] <Ha​zel> neat
L151[21:36:41] <Ha​zel> how could i get that to work, do you think?
L152[21:36:44] <Ha​zel> theoretically
L153[21:39:07] <Hawk777> I guess you’d grab the source code of Xorg and add a new driver to it.
L154[21:39:20] <Ocawes​ome101> much of this has been moved outside of the X server in the past decade or two. it either happens in the kernel or in separate libraries now.
L155[21:39:20] <Hawk777> One that uses the projector API.
L156[21:39:42] <Hawk777> Oh, really? My understanding was that a GPU driver had a kernelspace bit but also a bit that lived in Xorg and talked to the kernelspace bit.
L157[21:40:00] <Ocawes​ome101> it doesn't live in Xorg anymore
L158[21:40:02] <Hawk777> Possibly separate .so files, but from the Xorg source.
L159[21:40:04] <Hawk777> Hm, OK.
L160[21:41:47] <ThePiGuy24> how does oc2 even do the output? is it a plain tty or a framebuffer?
L161[21:41:59] <Ha​zel> framebuffer
L162[21:42:03] <ThePiGuy24> if its the latter, then you can probably get xorg working with some amount of effort
L163[21:42:31] <Hawk777> Wait, OC2’s regular screen is a framebuffer? Not a character array?
L164[21:42:41] <Ha​zel> its a framebuffer yeah
L165[21:42:55] <Hawk777> Earlier OCAwesome said the projector did graphics, but if the built-in screen does too, then that would presumably be easier.
L166[21:43:28] <Hawk777> Although, I’m not sure if you get a mouse. Original OC only had touch positions, not the ability to move anything mouse-like without touching, IIRC; not sure about OC2
L167[21:44:08] <Hawk777> Anyway, here are the drivers for real hardware https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver indeed not part of the Xorg server itself, but separate packages now.
L168[21:44:12] <Ha​zel> it has a mouse
L169[21:44:33] <Hawk777> If it has a framebuffer device then the fbdev driver might work.
L170[21:45:52] <Ocawes​ome101> most accelerated graphics stuff these days is done using the Direct Rendering Manager or, at a higher level, Mesa
L171[21:49:38] <ThePiGuy24> yeah but the older slow method of doing thing is still possible (presumably) ;3
L172[21:50:06] <ThePiGuy24> (and when i say slow i really do mean it, the chance of this resulting in a usable graphical environment is close to nil)
L173[21:52:38] <Hawk777> CONFIG_DRM_SIMPLEDRM might also be relevant?
L174[21:52:47] <Hawk777> Never tried using that, but might be helpful.
L175[21:58:45] <Ha​zel> smh
L176[21:59:08] <Ha​zel> why choose linux instead of the original framework
L177[21:59:34] <Hawk777> You mean Lua?
L178[22:00:29] <Ha​zel> yeah
L179[22:00:44] <Hawk777> Well, there’s a Lua interpreter in the shipped Linux image if you want to use it.
L180[22:01:04] <Hawk777> But there are lots of advantages of making an actual CPU, like the fact that everyone isn’t *forced* to use Lua, they can use whatever programming language they want.
L181[22:01:42] <Hawk777> As long as it can either compile to or be interpreted on a RISC-V CPU.
L182[22:03:28] <Izzy> speaking of, any news on the OC 1.16 port?
L183[22:08:06] <CompanionCube> Hawk777: also the bit you were thinking of is known as the 'DDX'
L184[22:08:17] <CompanionCube> for 'device-dependent x'
L185[22:10:23] <Hawk777> Ah OK. I really don’t know how all the pieces fit together.
L186[22:12:08] <CompanionCube> simpledrm is essentially a replacement for fbdev, but using the same interfaces as your fully-fledged gpu drivers
L187[22:12:34] <CompanionCube> so you'd want to swap fbdev for modesetting in that case
L188[22:13:05] <CompanionCube> not sure if there's any visible benefit from that, though
L189[22:15:15] <Hawk777> Right, that’s what I figured it was, making it a DRM driver instead, which might be better.
L190[22:16:24] <CompanionCube> if you wanted wayland it's more useful, but for xorg not sure it makes a difference?
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L193[23:37:05] * Amanda offers elfi some snackies in exchange for services rendered
L194[23:38:50] <Mic​hiyo> *sigh* I REALLY Wish I had bought a 2TB ssd for my VM server
L195[23:39:06] <Mic​hiyo> "Oh 1TB should be plenty! I don't have much planned for it."
L196[23:45:00] * Amanda goes back in time and creates an alternate timeline where Michiyo did buy a 2tb ssd
L197[23:45:19] <Amanda> You have no wishes remaining
L198[23:47:12] <Mic​hiyo> Sadly that timeline doesn't help me any :(
L199[23:48:01] <Amanda> Not with that attitude it doesn't!
L200[23:48:50] <Amanda> Here, this'll help! %splash @Forecaster with mutable peach potion
L201[23:48:50] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable apple potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a violet wolf girl until someone baps them.
L202[23:50:32] <Amanda> Peach, apple, same difference
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