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L1[04:03:01] <Forec​aster> Oh hey a lamp
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L4[05:56:40] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L5[05:56:40] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 11 hours, 11 minutes and 16 seconds (By 1 hour, 26 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L6[05:56:41] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points! plus 0.011 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.8518682. Position #2 Need 0.1503518 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L11[08:00:20] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L12[08:00:20] <MichiBot> Eureka! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 3 minutes and 39 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L13[08:00:21] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 3 minutes and 39 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00206 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L14[08:00:26] <Forec​aster> %sip
L15[08:00:26] <MichiBot> You drink a diluted toxictop potion (New!). Oh no, Forecaster got a health potion, there's probably a boss fight coming!
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L17[09:11:10] <karto​onzz.> why does this happen when i try to download music on to a tape?.. https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1717405869737.png
L18[09:21:39] <Izzy> is that actually a direct link to the file?
L19[10:38:51] <Izzy> Elfi: https://movsw.0x0.st/files/webpublic-b3771ae0-0b7f-487c-8a08-95482f985127 [word that will get one kicked off school computers, for those it matters to]
L20[12:12:02] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L21[12:12:02] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 3 minutes and 39 seconds (By 2 hours, 8 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!
L22[12:12:03] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 4 hours, 11 minutes and 41 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00639 (0.00213 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.0352364 more points to pass Va​ur!
L23[12:42:00] * Amanda meows and looks around
L24[12:50:53] <Amanda> @kartoonzz. Change the dl=0 on the end to dl=1 and try that
L25[12:51:27] <Amanda> Otherwise Dropbox isn't sending the actual file, but a webpage to download it
L26[12:55:50] <Redston​eParkour> @kartoonzz. what is likely happening is that you are taking too long to download the file (the `tape` program downloads in blocks of 2048 bytes by default) so the server cuts off the connection; increasing the block size should help
L27[13:06:31] <Kristo​pher38> The 2048 bytes is the limit of the internet card iirc
L28[13:07:27] <Amanda> Oh, I didn't notice it didn't even finish the download. I guess dl=0 is right
L29[13:07:49] <Amanda> or dropbox is serving fucking huge html
L30[13:54:29] <S​3> 2048 is a megaton.
L31[13:54:46] <S​3> That's larger than most ISPs will even give you for an MTU across the Internet
L32[13:55:18] <S​3> Jumbo frames don't -usually- work across the public Internet at least in the US
L33[13:55:30] <S​3> so by using so much, you're just encouraging fragmentation
L34[13:56:09] <S​3> I should look at the code for the Internet card, and see if it buffers correctly to prevent fragmentation maybe
L35[13:56:24] <S​3> That's a curious note
L36[13:57:14] <fingercomp> I don't think MTUs enter the picture here; OC just limits the max amount of data you can read in one call from a TCP socket to 2048 bytes
L37[13:57:39] <fingercomp> and further makes it so you can only call it once per tick
L38[13:58:02] <fingercomp> so 40k/s is the top download speed you can achieve with the internet card
L39[14:12:51] <S​3> What I mean is that, I wonder if the internet card code is smart enough to not send jumboframes itself
L40[14:14:09] <S​3> Because say if the socket just randomly sent 2000+ bytes of data blindly, and the MTU of the interface was configured at 1500. It would fragment them. It should at least check the size before sending.
L41[14:14:47] <S​3> You could just trust the OS's network stack to handle that for you but, that's a dangerous thing to do
L42[14:15:14] <S​3> Since you can never prove how it's going to behave
L43[14:21:59] <fingercomp> well, it just does whatever Java does by default, which as far as I know mostly defers to the OS
L44[14:22:26] <fingercomp> and isn't the DF flag set on TCP packets by default on modern operating systems anyway?
L45[14:23:24] <fingercomp> that is, IP packets carrying TCP fragments
L46[14:25:44] <Amanda> You don't want your minecraft mod to be the thing that's generating the IP packets to send.
L47[14:26:17] <Amanda> Though I guess that's kinda exactly what the OC2 fork gruetzkopf has does
L48[14:26:34] <Amanda> but that's because it doesn't interact on the same abstraction layer as OC1 does
L49[14:35:34] <S​3> So weird that I found out uncured meat at the store is still cured
L50[14:36:05] <S​3> uncured just means it was cured organically, organic in the sense that manmade chemicals weren't used.
L51[14:36:17] <S​3> i.e., lemon juice
L52[15:08:13] <Elfi> Izzy: joke's on them, I'm already a lesbian
L53[15:58:46] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster with mutable potion
L54[15:58:46] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable crimson potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into water until they have a gold potion.
L55[15:58:59] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Amanda: Need the bucket again
L56[15:59:32] * Amanda buckets @Forecaster puts them in the water chest
L57[17:06:29] <Forec​aster> Hey D:
L58[17:10:49] <Flamei​ngsoul> Though yall might find this intresting https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1717434648672.jpg https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1717434648838.jpg https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1717434649007.jpg
L59[17:11:03] <Flamei​ngsoul> For IT class I had to clean this, took 5 years off my life but hey, who cares
L60[17:11:09] <Flamei​ngsoul> It's a switch btw
L61[17:13:15] <Forec​aster> Nice job
L62[17:39:46] <Flamei​ngsoul> there is still marks where i ran my finger in the dust, so there is still a layer but comparitivly the switch is much, *MUCH* quieter and does not heat up nearly as much or fast
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L64[17:40:05] <Flamei​ngsoul> thats a big line
L65[17:41:03] <Corded> > <Flamei​ngsoul> there is still marks where i ran my finger in the dust, so …
L66[17:41:03] <Flamei​ngsoul> next we work on the layout the classroom will take shape of and after that? well its summer and when we get back we start re-routing everything, re-setup the server if the teacher resets it, fix problems and overall suffer
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L68[18:59:42] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L69[18:59:43] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! Va​ur! You beat Spider ​EveryOS's previous record of 4 hours, 11 minutes and 41 seconds (By 2 hours, 35 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L70[18:59:44] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.8653682. Position #2 Need 0.1389118 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L71[19:06:27] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> @kartoonzz. what is likely happening is that you are taking…
L72[19:06:27] <karto​onzz.> thank you for helping me
L73[19:06:34] <karto​onzz.> i will do that right now
L74[19:06:38] <karto​onzz.> thank you all btw
L75[19:26:07] <Corded> > <finge​rcomp> and isn't the DF flag set on TCP packets by default on mode…
L76[19:26:07] <S​3> Usually.. Not always. I wouldn't trust it, lol.
L77[19:27:37] <Forec​aster> Always remember to set the Dwarf Fortress flag
L78[19:28:42] <karto​onzz.> question
L79[19:28:49] <Mim​iru> Answer.
L80[19:29:02] <Corded> > <Redston​eParkour> @kartoonzz. what is likely happening is that you are taking…
L81[19:29:02] <karto​onzz.> how would one do this :3
L82[19:29:24] <karto​onzz.> its in config yes but any specific one? :3
L83[19:29:59] <Hawk777> Don’t forget to obey RFC 3514 too, if you’re doing network communication.
L84[19:31:26] <karto​onzz.> ?
L85[19:31:46] <Hawk777> It was a response to the DF flag discussion.
L86[19:31:51] <Hawk777> Intended as a humorous one.
L87[19:32:27] <Forec​aster> It'd be in the main config file
L88[19:34:01] <karto​onzz.> the name of the config?
L89[19:34:29] <karto​onzz.> ? https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1717443268687.png
L90[19:35:33] <Forec​aster> Read the comment above it
L91[19:35:52] <karto​onzz.> mb?
L92[19:35:59] <karto​onzz.> im a bit baked
L93[19:36:04] <Forec​aster> It says several times why it's not relevant
L94[19:36:27] <karto​onzz.> keep thinking network is the same as internet mb
L95[19:41:04] <karto​onzz.> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1717443663933.png
L96[19:41:12] <karto​onzz.> would it be security related?
L97[19:43:47] <karto​onzz.> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1717443826721.png
L98[19:43:51] <karto​onzz.> i think i found it
L99[19:45:00] <gruetzkopf> Amanda: technically it's generating complete ethernet frames (and upstream OC2 does that too, but only keeps them internal)
L100[20:19:00] <Corded> > <Haw​k777> Don’t forget to obey RFC 3514 too, if you’re doing network …
L101[20:19:01] <Kristo​pher38> first time anyone telling me about it, lmao
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L103[22:08:24] <Amanda> %give MichiBot a home improvement project spirialing out of control
L104[22:08:24] * MichiBot accepts the home improvement project spirialing out of control and adds it to their inventory
L105[22:08:56] <Amanda> "Let's fix the sink drain" -- we're now cutting drywall
L106[22:09:56] <Amanda> Hrm. wallabag has support for sending the "content" of a post instead of just a link
L107[22:10:04] <Amanda> Clearly I need to abuse this to download steam guides into it
L108[22:10:24] <Amanda> ( Steam guides don't parse correctly with the web scraper it uses )
L109[22:11:13] <Amanda> seems the scraper it uses is designed for scraping news posts, and ofcourse steam uses the exact same url format for everything
L110[22:12:52] <Amanda> Hrm, maybe not
L111[22:13:01] <Amanda> "test_url: https://steamcommunity.com/games/elitedangerous/announcements/detail/1711828601535410336&quot;
L112[22:14:23] <Amanda> Huh diffeerent paths
L113[22:14:27] <Amanda> my brain misfiled data again
L114[22:15:19] <Amanda> "/sharedfiles" for guides, "/workshop" for workshop items -- my brain only ever saw the end of "/filedetails?id=foo"
L115[22:16:20] <Amanda> ( My usecase is I want to easily be able to browse instructions for SE scripts on my tablet)
L116[22:16:32] * Amanda wanders back to cutting drywall
L117[22:18:13] <Amanda> No more drywall cutting today, apparently
L118[22:18:23] * Amanda flops down atop Elfi, debates halucinations or space
L119[22:49:55] <Amanda> %choose try and be productive or spaaaace
L120[22:49:56] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A nearby lamp suddenly screams "spaaaace!" such that it's barely audible.
L121[23:03:10] <Spider ​EveryOS> %tonk
L122[23:03:10] <MichiBot> Yeah! Spider ​EveryOS! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 3 minutes and 27 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L123[23:03:11] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's new record is 4 hours, 3 minutes and 27 seconds! Spider EveryOS also gained 0.00406 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.0446764 more points to pass Va​ur!
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