L1[01:48:55] * Amanda
curls up around Elfi, offers her some snacks before
bedtime
L2[01:58:22] 
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkout
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkoutL3[01:58:22] <MichiBot> Woooo! Spider
EveryOS! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 43 minutes
and 37 seconds (By 3 hours, 27 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L4[01:58:23] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points!
plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
1.6697218, Position #3 => #2 (Overtook Vaur) Need 0.1688282 more
points to pass Forecaster!
L5[01:58:35] <Spider
EveryOS> %brick Vaur
<Spider
EveryOS> %brick VaurL6[02:01:12] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster
with mutable peanut potion
L7[02:01:12] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable
red potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns
into a currentcorn otter boy until someone stops looking at
them.
L8[02:01:43] <Amanda> Elfi! Look it, sea
pupy!
L9[02:01:47] * Amanda
passes out
L10[02:01:52] <Amanda> Night girls
L11[02:05:08] <Spider
EveryOS> Have good dreams
<Spider
EveryOS> Have good dreamsL12[03:44:23] <Forecaster> D:<
<Forecaster> D:<L13[03:53:20] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> D:<
L14[03:53:21] <Spider
EveryOS> Why the mad face?
<Spider
EveryOS> Why the mad face?L15[05:29:18] <Izzy> CompanionCube:
https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2024/05/refurb-weekend-canon-cat.html
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L17[07:09:11] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L18[07:25:49] <Corded> >
<Z0idburg>
L19[07:25:49] <Spider
EveryOS> Oh, I initially saw this meme and assumed I was in a
different server
<Spider
EveryOS> Oh, I initially saw this meme and assumed I was in a
different serverL20[07:25:49] <Spider
EveryOS> Well, I know the perfect server to repost this
to
<Spider
EveryOS> Well, I know the perfect server to repost this
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L22[07:51:04] <Izzy> so,,,
L23[07:51:13] <Izzy> I got GVT-g working
well enough to try properly in a VM
L24[07:51:21] <Izzy> it's uh. it's slower
than software rendering
L25[07:52:09] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/eca2.jpg
L26[07:55:52] <Corded> > <Izzy>
it's uh. it's slower than software rendering
L27[07:55:52] <Spider
EveryOS> I don't know anything about gvt-g, but according to
what I found online, that's strange
<Spider
EveryOS> I don't know anything about gvt-g, but according to
what I found online, that's strangeL28[07:56:00] <Izzy> it might just be
glxgears
L29[07:56:12] <Izzy> it's running minetest
pretty well https://shadowkat.net/tmp/1f1a.jpg
L30[07:56:24] <Spider
EveryOS> Ah. Weird specific interaction maybe
<Spider
EveryOS> Ah. Weird specific interaction maybeL31[07:56:52] <Izzy> glxgears is a very
poor test
L32[07:58:41] <Spider
EveryOS> I have an Android version of glxgears. Dunno if it's a
port or rewrite, but it's basically locked to my screen's refresh
rate
<Spider
EveryOS> I have an Android version of glxgears. Dunno if it's a
port or rewrite, but it's basically locked to my screen's refresh
rateL33[07:59:24] <Izzy> okay, glxgears is
faster with software rendering, but minetest with software
rendering is giving me like 15FPS
L34[08:00:14] <Spider
EveryOS> And I see you get 57 with gvt-g?
<Spider
EveryOS> And I see you get 57 with gvt-g?L35[08:00:18] <Izzy> yup
L36[08:00:27] <Izzy> presumably locked to
60
L37[08:01:29] <Spider
EveryOS> You are like 14 hours ahead of me
<Spider
EveryOS> You are like 14 hours ahead of meL38[08:01:38] <Spider
EveryOS> Only 4:00 am here
<Spider
EveryOS> Only 4:00 am hereL39[08:01:58] <Izzy> that would make you
... UTC-4?
L40[08:03:25] <Spider
EveryOS> Yea. For the time being. It changes seasonally
(daylight savings)
<Spider
EveryOS> Yea. For the time being. It changes seasonally
(daylight savings)L41[08:05:43] <Izzy> ahh I so have to get
myself one of the silly AMD cards with MxGPU support
L42[08:07:33] <Izzy> using half an iGPU is
a step up from software rendering but imagine it with an actual
graphics card
L43[08:07:50] <Izzy> one that I can split
into 8 or 16 separate, moderately fast cards
L44[08:08:15] <Izzy> hell, even if I can
get four W4300s that's more than enough for 90% of games my family
plays
L45[08:10:19] <Corded> > <Izzy>
hell, even if I can get four W4300s that's more than enough…
L46[08:10:19] <Spider
EveryOS> So what exactly is the plan with the vms? Does each
member of your family get their own vm?
<Spider
EveryOS> So what exactly is the plan with the vms? Does each
member of your family get their own vm?L47[08:10:50] <Izzy> it would be an
option
L48[08:11:08] <Izzy> good for when one has
reason to play on a laptop or similar
L49[08:12:56] <Spider
EveryOS> I primarily use a laptop because I move around a
lot
<Spider
EveryOS> I primarily use a laptop because I move around a
lotL50[08:12:56] <Spider
EveryOS> So I recently got myself a powerful laptop, now I can
play more games
<Spider
EveryOS> So I recently got myself a powerful laptop, now I can
play more gamesL51[08:13:09] <Izzy> such a setup would
allow any potato laptop to "run" games well
L52[08:13:33] <Izzy> provided it could
decode the video feed fast enough, anyway
L53[08:13:44] <Izzy> probably precludes the
Atom N270 netbooks, but anything newer than that would be
fine
L54[08:14:14] <Corded> > <Izzy>
such a setup would allow any potato laptop to "run" games
w…
L55[08:14:14] <Spider
EveryOS> Are you saying VNC another computer with the game
running?
<Spider
EveryOS> Are you saying VNC another computer with the game
running?L56[08:14:25] <Spider
EveryOS> I'm confused a bit
<Spider
EveryOS> I'm confused a bitL57[08:14:31] <Izzy> Pretty much!
L58[08:14:38] <Spider
EveryOS> Cool
<Spider
EveryOS> CoolL59[08:14:44] <Izzy> Though VNC kinda
sucks, the idea would be to run Sunshine on the VM and Moonlight on
the client
L60[08:14:57] <Izzy> (both FOSS replacement
for NVIDIA's GameStream stuff)
L61[08:15:05] <Spider
EveryOS> ofc it'd require a stable network connection
<Spider
EveryOS> ofc it'd require a stable network connectionL62[08:15:19] <Izzy> yup, but 802.11ac
should manage it
L63[08:16:15] <Izzy> I say
"should" I know it does
L64[08:16:26] <Izzy> I've done such a setup
with my desktop's real display before
L65[08:18:24] <Izzy> Kind of a shame
proxmox doesn't have the plumbing to set a GPU to output to a real
display, apparently on the driver side it's relatively
trivial
L66[08:18:51] <Izzy> This machine has like
3 DP ports, running a kiosk mode grafana view on the server would
be sweet as hell
L67[08:21:38] <Izzy> hmmm, maybe by the
time I have money to throw at this the Flex 140 cards will be on
the used market
L68[08:22:09] <Spider
EveryOS> Ok, I'm sorry, you lost me now 😅
<Spider
EveryOS> Ok, I'm sorry, you lost me now 😅L69[08:24:37] <Izzy> uuuh it'd be sweet to
run a VM connected to a physical output so I could have a VM that
just shows graphs
L70[08:25:23] <Izzy> and maybe by the time
I can justify the cost of playing with this with non-random
hardware, the datacentre cards Intel released recently with good
software support for this sort of thing will be available on the
used market (they don't sell them to end users)
L71[08:26:55] <Kristopher38> Izzy: from my experience
remote play through wifi was... Less than ideal
<Kristopher38> Izzy: from my experience
remote play through wifi was... Less than idealL72[08:27:05] <Izzy> it's not perfect
L73[08:27:15] <Izzy> but if it's 45 degrees
in the computer room and 30 outside...
L74[08:27:28] <Spider
EveryOS> Ah, gotcha
<Spider
EveryOS> Ah, gotchaL75[08:28:18] <Kristopher38> What I'm saying is use
cable wherever possible
<Kristopher38> What I'm saying is use
cable wherever possibleL76[08:29:06] <Izzy> relevant video, though
not the one I watched originally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYcntiF4j2Q
L77[08:29:37] <Corded> > <Izzy>
but if it's 45 degrees in the computer room and 30 outside.…
L78[08:29:37] <Spider
EveryOS> How bad is it?
<Spider
EveryOS> How bad is it?L79[08:29:38] <Spider
EveryOS> I know my previous laptop often ran at 90* and could
handle up to 100* (haven't checked my current one). But not dure
how outside temp affects internal temp
<Spider
EveryOS> I know my previous laptop often ran at 90* and could
handle up to 100* (haven't checked my current one). But not dure
how outside temp affects internal tempL80[08:29:45] <Spider
EveryOS> * sure how outside temp affects internal temp
<Spider
EveryOS> * sure how outside temp affects internal tempL81[08:30:35] <Izzy> the computers are
plenty happy
L82[08:30:38] <Izzy> I'm not though
L83[08:31:54] <Corded> > <Izzy>
relevant video, though not the one I watched originally: ht…
L84[08:31:54] <Spider
EveryOS> I'll watch it tomorrow
<Spider
EveryOS> I'll watch it tomorrowL85[08:35:34] ⇦
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L86[08:44:59] <Izzy> aha, this is the one I
originally watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR5IsDi_Vbg
L87[09:07:04] <ThePiGuy24> izzys cursed
computermancy
L88[09:11:21] <Corded> >
<Z0idburg>
L89[09:11:21] <Spider
EveryOS> The server I reposted this too is having so much fun
with this meme
<Spider
EveryOS> The server I reposted this too is having so much fun
with this memeL90[09:23:26] <Izzy> ThePiGuy24: oh I have
much more cursed plans. in the mean time, however, https://shadowkat.net/tmp/1166.webm
L91[10:17:41] <SoBinary>
%tonk
<SoBinary>
%tonkL92[10:17:43] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks!
SoBinary! You beat Spider EveryOS's previous record of <0 (By
8 hours, 19 minutes and 19 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L93[10:17:44] <MichiBot> SoBinary's new
record is 8 hours, 19 minutes and 19 seconds! SoBinary also gained
0.00832 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8. Need
0.01772 more points to pass TechTastic!
L94[10:20:16] <Spider
EveryOS> Oh, hey, that's somebody different from usual
<Spider
EveryOS> Oh, hey, that's somebody different from usualL95[10:22:04] ⇦
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L100[11:03:36] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL101[11:03:37] <MichiBot> You drink a
serif-only bavarium potion (New!). Forecaster spots a shiny
thing!
L102[11:03:46] <Forecaster> Shiny!
<Forecaster> Shiny!L103[11:13:13] <Forecaster> _adds to the
shiny-collection_
<Forecaster> _adds to the
shiny-collection_L104[11:37:59] *
Amanda meows and looks around
L105[11:47:13] <Amanda> ... Where did
seapupy fore go?
L106[11:49:09] *
Amanda looks around some more
L107[11:49:59] <Amanda> Hey @Forecaster
did you see what happen to seapupy fore?
L108[11:54:11] <Corded> > <Spider
EveryOS> The server I reposted this too is having so much fun
with t…
L109[11:54:12] <S3> Oh
yeah?
<S3> Oh
yeah?L110[12:06:12] <Amanda> We'll just have to
try and make a new seapupy, I guess %splash @Forecaster with
mutable red potion
L111[12:06:12] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable red potion that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster
turns into a citrus sword boy until they find a lamp.
L112[12:38:34] <ThePiGuy24> Izzy: being
all fancy with the spinny chair i see
L113[13:02:55] <Amanda> %choose halucniate
or space
L114[13:02:55] <MichiBot> Amanda: Some
"halucniate" sounds nice
L115[13:11:18] <Amanda> hrmhrm
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L118[14:09:14] <Forecaster> >:
<Forecaster> >:L119[14:12:18] <Forecaster> I need lamp
<Forecaster> I need lampL120[14:12:59] <Saphire> Izzy: pss, how's
all the terminal stuff going on these days
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L127[18:18:28] <NEWfoufoufux> Hello
hello
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L129[18:21:07] <Forecaster> Bye bye
<Forecaster> Bye byeL130[19:53:52] ⇦
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L132[19:59:24] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL133[19:59:26] <MichiBot> You drink a
seeping grathnode potion (New!). The next fork Forecaster touches
tells them it's most deeply guarded secret.
L134[19:59:38] <Saphire> Rar
L135[20:00:00] <Forecaster> There are hidden
shinies?!
<Forecaster> There are hidden
shinies?!L136[20:21:36] ⇦
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L138[20:46:43] <Izzy> Saphire: terminal
stuff?
L139[20:46:59] <Saphire> Izzy: like, VT
and stuff
L140[20:47:01] <Saphire> idk
L141[20:47:17] <Saphire> And that neat
little OS for OC and network thing and so on
L142[20:47:28] <Saphire> ...been ages
since I looked closely enough q-q
L143[20:47:56] <Izzy> oh the PsychOS
terminal emulator has decent VT100 support, and uses VRAM to
support multiple virtual terminals per display
L144[20:58:23] <Saphire> So whatcha
working on these days
L145[21:01:10] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL146[21:01:11] <MichiBot> Crud! Vaur! You
beat SoBinary's previous record of 8 hours, 19 minutes and 19
seconds (By 2 hours, 24 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L147[21:01:12] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 10 hours, 43 minutes and 28 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.0216 (0.0024 x 9) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3
=> #2. (Overtook Spider EveryOS) Need 0.1619918 more points to
pass Forecaster!
L148[21:02:42] <Spider
EveryOS> Bummer, I literally was just clocking out as you
tonked!
<Spider
EveryOS> Bummer, I literally was just clocking out as you
tonked!L149[21:03:28] <Izzy> current
"project" is replacing the E3 1231v3 server with a more
modern one (EliteDesk 800 G5), and being able to deploy all my
services with ansible
L150[21:06:16] <Saphire> All my stuff is
still bespoke shit on VPS
L151[21:10:05] <Izzy> I'm trying to
standardise everything so I can deploy it at multiple sites
L152[21:11:49] <Izzy> Considering doing a
bit of a hardware swap with a friend to get a third site so I can
do actual database clustering over the WAN, rather than just
streaming my backups to a replica
L153[21:13:25] <Saphire> I just have my
desktop and two VPSes :<
L154[21:15:22] <Izzy> also got a big SAS
disk shelf that I'm yet to use properly but
L155[21:15:25] <Izzy> soon(tm)!
L156[21:15:31] <Izzy> also got power
monitoring going https://cdn.shadowkat.net/media/dafaaa0c1a8d650adb9dc628f91c6edac0e6b24c00817bb075f85ec846364549.png
L157[21:30:02] <Saphire> God I wish I had
a house I could modify...
L158[21:31:37] <CompanionCube> how big are
the maybe-to-be-clustered databases?
L159[21:32:01] <Izzy> like 30-40GB
L160[21:33:07] <CompanionCube> seems
worthwhile
L161[21:35:20] <Izzy> I want to do load
balancing for reads on it too
L162[21:35:28] <Izzy> hopefully should
make pleroma faster
L163[21:37:29] <Saphire> ...oof
L164[21:37:35] <Saphire> Pleroma DBs sound
annoying to deal with
L165[21:37:54] <Izzy> they're just
fat
L166[21:38:08] <Saphire> I wonder if you
could save any space by storing semantic triples...
L167[21:38:43] <Izzy> storing objects as
JSON and having postgres index the JSON contained within is ...
unhinged, and maybe not the best decision, but it has
advantages
L168[21:39:26] <Saphire> ...
L169[21:39:39] <Saphire> I guess that's
one way to deal with JSON-LD
L170[21:39:51] <Saphire> please tell me
there's compression
L171[21:40:04] <Izzy> not 100% sure about
on-disk compression of the db
L172[21:41:28] <Izzy> okay, postgres does
use at least some compression! but I know the compressed size of
the SQL dumps are Much Smaller than the online database, so make of
that what you will
L173[21:41:30] <Izzy> OH YEAH
L174[21:41:40] <Izzy> I got a uhhhh 16GB
Optane NVMe drive to use as the postgres WAL
L175[21:41:49] <CompanionCube> oooh
optane, perfect
L176[21:42:01] <CompanionCube> shame intel
discontinued that
L177[21:42:44] <Izzy> they're very cheap,
actually!
L178[21:42:57] <Izzy> if you want swap
space, $8 for 16GB isn't bad
L179[21:43:23] <Izzy> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/125971179543
L180[21:44:15] <Izzy> so yeah, new server
is going to have a 256GB SSD as /, a 16GB optane drive for scratch
data (and swap?) and a 45TB drive array for bulk storage
L181[21:45:04] <CompanionCube> oh is this
the virgin SSD mode and not the chad NVDIMM
L182[21:45:32] <Izzy> unfortunately
L183[21:46:41] <Izzy> still manages like
800MB/s sustaned write
L184[21:46:57] <Izzy> uh, 150
L185[21:47:02] <Izzy> the 800 was read
>.>
L186[21:47:43] <Izzy> the server platforms
that support NVDIMMs are a lot less common than last-gen office
machines :p
L187[21:48:10] <CompanionCube> well yes,
but the cool and the memorable thing about optane is the
latter
L188[21:48:24] <Izzy> one day
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