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L1[01:04:26] * Amanda collapses into a pile of floof atop Elfi, meows about how it's not fair that the foxen keep breaking the next button on her
L2[01:05:21] <Amanda> Night girls
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L5[03:18:05] <immibis> stack overflow bosses also want it to be a page where you type in a question and an LLM answers it
L6[03:29:04] <Izzy> presumably to compete with the half dozen LLMs trained on stackoverflow answers
L7[03:29:25] <Izzy> I guess if you trained it only on stackoverflow, you'd be able to replicate the condescension
L8[04:50:28] <Pokem​an2003> https://paste.pc-logix.com/ujefeqolid
L9[04:51:43] <Pokem​an2003> Somehow I've made a BIOS which is actually smaller than the original BIOS, while being able to load unmanaged *and* managed partitions.
L10[04:52:02] <Pokem​an2003> Probably because I don't do the really important stuff the original BIOS does :P
L11[04:52:47] <Pokem​an2003> (Smaller by technicality. If I remove the print statements and the beeps, it'll be smaller. Otherwise, it's bigger by a fair bit. And noisier.)
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L15[06:26:14] <Redston​eParkour> iirc ulos' live image is just one huge init.lua file
L16[06:37:50] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L17[06:37:50] <MichiBot> Awesome! Compan​ionCube! You beat Ocawes​ome101's previous record of 3 hours, 19 minutes and 22 seconds (By 7 hours, 10 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L18[06:37:51] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.01 tonk points! plus 0.009 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.38197. Position #4 => #3 (Overtook Spider EveryOS) Need 0.5668 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L19[06:40:44] <Pokem​an2003> Hmm, alright.
L20[06:49:55] <Izzy> Pokeman2003: PsychOS can run from an unmanaged drive
L21[06:50:13] <Izzy> and I have a loader to run any* OS from an rtfs partition
L22[06:51:44] <Izzy> * only tested with OpenOS, but it presents a virtual filesystem component, so it should be general enough
L23[06:52:02] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/6238.jpg
L24[06:52:40] <Izzy> expects a drive or tape with an MTPT partition table and at least one partition with type rtfs
L25[06:52:53] <Izzy> that was not the right link
L26[06:53:00] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/a232.lua
L27[06:53:02] <Izzy> there we go
L28[06:55:20] <Izzy> here's my combined managed, unmanaged, and tape loader https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-misc/src/branch/master/partition/driveboot.lua
L29[06:56:41] <Izzy> please note that that a232.lua file has data loss / corruption issues on writing, so it shouldn't be used in production
L30[07:09:44] <Forec​aster> %sip
L31[07:09:46] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery coral potion (New!). Forecaster: Nothing seemed to happen...
L32[07:10:07] <Forec​aster> Guess I'll just %tonk then
L33[07:10:07] <MichiBot> Blast! Forec​aster! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 32 minutes and 16 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L34[07:10:08] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 32 minutes and 16 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00054 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.59104 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L36[07:43:23] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk
L37[07:43:24] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L38[07:50:31] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk 9B374
L39[07:50:31] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L40[08:12:09] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk EF245
L41[08:12:09] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L42[08:12:14] <Redston​eParkour> huh
L43[08:20:22] <CompanionCube> huh
L44[08:23:55] <Forec​aster> @RedstoneParkour %tonkcode
L45[08:23:55] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: 661DB
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L48[08:39:39] <Pokem​an2003> Oh, joy. Why is this happening? It seems to happen at an EOF, which I wouldn't have a problem with, *except* that I would REALLY like it not to error at the EOF. https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1710923978653.png https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1710923978819.png
L49[08:40:26] <Pokem​an2003> (Initializer is basically just a dummy file which just beeps once and ends.)
L50[08:41:38] <Pokem​an2003> (For IRC.) https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1710924098182.lua
L51[08:42:23] <Pokem​an2003> The error is "[string "..."]:14: machine:819: attempt to call a nil value"
L52[08:43:32] <Forec​aster> aren't you always erroring at the end?
L53[08:43:51] <Pokem​an2003> You don't understand.
L54[08:43:51] <Pokem​an2003> *Every* file ends in an error.
L55[08:45:01] <Pokem​an2003> Imagine this scenario for a second: I have a program which chain loads 8 files at once, setting up the functions.
L56[08:45:01] <Pokem​an2003> These are now all ending in errors, which means I have no way of telling if they've *actually* successfully executed or not.
L57[08:46:34] <Pokem​an2003> I made a much more complicated `initializer.lua`, which does what I originally wanted, which was to set up 4 files for each of the different driver subsections I need. However, with no way to tell if the files have actually executed or just ended in an error, I can't actually respond accordingly.
L58[08:52:17] <Pokem​an2003> * this error whenever executed by an xpcall.
L59[08:54:46] <Pokem​an2003> I'm really tired so I'll just explain it better tomorrow. Apologies for the bad explaination.
L60[09:37:45] <Forec​aster> okay then
L61[09:37:53] <Forec​aster> meanwhile, this is super valuable information https://xkcd.com/2908/
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L65[09:59:48] <Izzy> you probably want debug.traceback as the second xpcall arg rather than error
L66[09:59:55] <Izzy> I don't even know what error there would do
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L72[11:29:02] <Amanda> immibis: really? Sigh. I am hoping the recent court ruling in Canada where the airline was forced to comply with their chatbot 's lying answer would pump the breaks on this kind of stupidity
L73[11:29:27] <immibis> stack overflow doesn't have that liability
L74[11:30:51] <Amanda> A cat can dream, though
L75[11:56:38] <stephan48> You need to police human answers... for a LLM you can just say... oops software mistake/halucination, please try again!
L76[11:56:50] <stephan48> and because its so novell, everyone will eat and accept that
L77[11:58:53] <Va​ur> %tonk
L78[11:58:54] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 32 minutes and 16 seconds (By 4 hours, 16 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L79[11:58:55] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 48 minutes and 46 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00428 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L80[13:15:15] <Amanda> %choose cubes; 20 or 18 or 19
L81[13:15:15] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: 20 cubes
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L84[14:17:48] <Ocawes​ome101> @Pokeman2003 try `xpcall(file)` rather than `xpcall(file())`
L85[16:10:30] <Pokem​an2003> I struggled with that originally, but doing it again fixed it? Ah, well. Thanks Oca.
L86[16:10:42] <Pokem​an2003> (That was the problem by the ways.)
L87[17:06:16] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk 09816
L88[17:06:16] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L89[17:06:37] <Redston​eParkour> hm
L90[17:07:16] <Mim​iru> The code changes every hour IIRC
L91[17:07:45] <Amanda> Arrrrgghhhhh
L92[17:07:49] <Amanda> Fucking fucks
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L96[17:08:18] <Amanda> No wonder noarch isn't working yet, they announced it in their blog post for feb 2024, but it's not actually fucking in a release of forgejo yet!
L97[17:08:52] * Amanda collapses into a pile of floof atop Elfi, grumbles about poor communication
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L99[17:15:02] <Forec​aster> The code**does** change every hour
L100[17:15:09] <Forec​aster> * code **does** change every hour
L101[17:16:40] <Redston​eParkour> huh the website works again so i can %tonk 466FF
L102[17:16:40] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Redston​eParkour! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 4 hours, 48 minutes and 46 seconds (By 28 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L103[17:16:41] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour's new record is 5 hours, 17 minutes and 46 seconds! RedstoneParkour also gained 0.0024 (0.00048 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #11. (Overtook PwnagePineapple (He/Him)) Need 0.0534 more points to pass walks​anator!
L104[17:16:54] <Mim​iru> There is a command to get the current code as well
L105[17:17:06] <Mim​iru> Since the reverse proxy randomly seems to die..
L106[17:17:10] <Mim​iru> %tonkcode
L107[17:17:11] <MichiBot> Mim​iru: 466FF
L108[17:17:13] <Mim​iru> or something?
L109[17:17:14] <Mim​iru> yeah
L110[17:18:04] <Redston​eParkour> thought that was only for admins
L111[17:18:16] <Mim​iru> %whatami
L112[17:18:17] <MichiBot> You are nothing! NOTHING!
L113[17:18:21] <Mim​iru> That'd be a no.
L114[17:19:06] <Webchat310> %tonk 466FF
L115[17:19:16] <Mim​iru> Theres a 15 minute cooldown
L116[17:19:22] <Webchat310> sad
L117[17:19:38] <Mim​iru> And even without it, that would have done nothing but reset the timer.
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L119[17:22:50] <Forec​aster> Hmm
L120[17:23:17] <Forec​aster> _makes note to make the code regenerate after use to prevent the above causing problems_
L121[17:24:18] <Mim​iru> Sounds like a great thing to implement during the rewrite!
L122[17:27:54] <Forec​aster> Yep
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L125[19:19:53] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime or try and be productive, nya
L126[19:19:53] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: "try and be productive, nya", now with 30% fewer deaths caused by negligence!
L127[19:20:20] <Amanda> False mews! There's been no deaths from being productive, nya for generations!
L128[19:43:51] <Amanda> So, I think that I may have had a fun bug in smol-browser
L129[19:44:01] <Amanda> every tab you open inherited the source tab's history
L130[19:44:16] <Amanda> every tab you _loaded_ appended to the history
L131[19:44:38] <Amanda> might explain why it seems to be hanging/crashing sometimes
L132[19:45:15] <Forec​aster> That the beauro of statistics know about ..
L133[19:46:58] <Amanda> %choose spin back up the butts vms or wait until tomorrow to push package updates
L134[19:46:58] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: My grandfather always told me that "wait until tomorrow to push package updates" is the way to go!
L135[19:47:04] <Amanda> Sounds good
L136[19:47:17] * Amanda flops down around Elfi, lets her laptop take a nap and reads stories to her
L137[19:52:37] <Va​ur> %sip
L138[19:52:37] <MichiBot> You drink a porous oculemon potion (New!). Vaur feels slightly faster.
L139[20:16:53] <Amanda> Izzy: do you know if we need to do something special for awesome to make button presses always work even during a key/mouse grab? I thought I was just hitting a weird bug but the keybind I added to -pda didn't work to run xdotool and release the grab from the weird qt bug I keep hitting with right click menus
L140[20:18:14] <Amanda> %remindme 14h add xdotool to awesome-pda deps
L141[20:18:14] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "add xdotool to awesome-pda deps" in 14h at 03/21/2024 10:18:14 AM
L142[20:23:54] <Amanda> ( double-press power should run "xdotool key XF86Ungrab" )
L143[20:55:07] <Izzy> Amanda: not off the top of my head
L144[20:58:01] <Amanda> Hrm
L145[20:58:34] <Amanda> I couldn't see anything about it in the awesome docs either
L146[20:58:53] <Amanda> But I also didn't look that hard
L147[21:00:16] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/3250.jpg https://shadowkat.net/tmp/65ff.jpg
L148[21:04:07] <Amanda> Izzy: if you're curious about how I did double-press of buttons, I adopted a SO answer into this: https://git.camnet.site/awesome-pda/awesome-pda/src/branch/main/util/bindings.lua
L149[21:04:46] <Amanda> Bah, it didn't copy the line number, it's the function starting on line 23
L150[21:10:28] <Kristo​pher38> I see manjaro
L151[21:10:59] <Izzy> ?
L152[21:11:51] <Kristo​pher38> Nvm, is that a razer keyboard?
L153[21:12:19] <Izzy> unfortunately
L154[21:14:59] <Kristo​pher38> I got a new set of keycaps for my bday recently https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1710969299063.jpg
L155[21:15:20] <Izzy> those are cute :3
L156[21:15:47] <Izzy> jesus christ
L157[21:16:05] <Izzy> pulled one of the HGSTs that came with the enclosure
L158[21:16:11] <Izzy> (3 HGST, 12 seagate)
L159[21:16:19] <Izzy> 1.6 years of runtime, 800TB read
L160[21:23:42] <AR2​000> New project : openldap
L161[21:23:48] <AR2​000> for my home lab
L162[22:11:47] <Mim​iru> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1710972707337.jpg
L163[22:14:32] <Forec​aster> Damn Linux users, they've ruined Linux
L164[22:14:39] <Mim​iru> It's true.
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L166[22:39:01] <CompanionCube> Izzy: is there a good amount of variance there?
L167[22:54:04] <Amanda> %choose iced creams or water
L168[22:54:04] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: After all, why shouldn't you "water"?
L169[22:54:12] <Amanda> Fiiine
L170[22:59:00] <Izzy> CompanionCube: the seagates are pretty consistent
L171[22:59:16] <Izzy> one of the hitachis has had all of 160GB read, but 3TB written
L172[22:59:18] <Izzy> parity drive?
L173[22:59:27] <Izzy> or maybe the spare?
L174[23:01:27] <Amanda> %choose re-laptop or continue playing with stuff on the tiny phone screen
L175[23:01:27] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Once you get a taste of "continue playing with stuff on the tiny phone screen" you can't stop.
L176[23:21:50] <CompanionCube> Izzy: makes sense
L177[23:29:10] <Izzy> CompanionCube: https://shadowkat.net/tmp/b294.txt
L178[23:30:01] <CompanionCube> where are the writes
L179[23:30:38] <CompanionCube> plenty of variation with reads though
L180[23:35:39] <Izzy> wonder what sort of data it stored
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