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<Kristopher38> @AR2000 since you're the
kind of person that would know this kind of thing: I vaguely
remember OC internet cards, specifically TCP sockets being
read-bottlenecked, as in you could issue a read call for a maximum
of 2KB of data every tick so you can do theoretical maximum of
40KB/s etc... I'm wondering if I issued read calls for
<Kristopher38> @AR2000 since you're the
kind of person that would know this kind of thing: I vaguely
remember OC internet cards, specifically TCP sockets being
read-bottlenecked, as in you could issue a read call for a maximum
of 2KB of data every tick so you can do theoretical maximum of
40KB/s etc... I'm wondering if I issued read calls forL2[01:10:39] <Corded> small amounts of data,
would I still have only one read call per tick available? I.e. does
the call budget cost for read calls scale proportionally with the
amount of requested bytes or not?
L3[01:11:56] <Kristopher38> Also @CC anyone who might
know anything about tbis
<Kristopher38> Also @CC anyone who might
know anything about tbisL4[01:12:04] <Kristopher38> * this
<Kristopher38> * thisL5[01:14:45] <Corded> >
<Kristopher38> @AR2000 since you're the kind of person that
would know thi…
L6[01:14:45] <AR2000>
Unfortunately I don't profile anything so I don't have the answer
you are looking for.
<AR2000>
Unfortunately I don't profile anything so I don't have the answer
you are looking for.L7[01:14:45] <AR2000>
You may be able to test that by downloading a huge file with wget
and comparing it to the download speed outside the game
<AR2000>
You may be able to test that by downloading a huge file with wget
and comparing it to the download speed outside the gameL8[01:17:06] <Kristopher38> I don't see how that would
help me, besides wget uses http requests
<Kristopher38> I don't see how that would
help me, besides wget uses http requestsL9[01:17:39] <Kristopher38> I know how to benchmark
this, just thought someone might already have the answer
<Kristopher38> I know how to benchmark
this, just thought someone might already have the answerL10[01:39:32] <Amanda> %remindme 9h look at
your phones browser for a project to play with
L11[01:39:32] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"look at your phones browser for a project to play with"
in 9h at 03/18/2024 10:39:32 AM
L12[02:02:57] <Izzy> huh, that's 1/4 the
perf of network cards by default
L13[02:05:56] <Izzy> knowing that, rica
would definitely benefit from batching multiple reads
L14[03:10:29] <Spider
EveryOS> %tonk
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkL15[03:10:30] <MichiBot> Dogast! Spider
EveryOS! You beat Vaur's previous record of 11 hours, 59 minutes
and 22 seconds (By 5 hours, 38 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L16[03:10:30] <MichiBot> Spider EveryOS's
new record is 17 hours, 38 minutes and 21 seconds! Spider EveryOS
also gained 0.0678 (0.00565 x 12) tonk points for stealing the
tonk. Position #4. Need 0.05673 more points to pass
CompanionCube!
L17[03:25:10] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL18[03:25:11] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe
solarium potion (New!). Forecaster's favourite cup is now upside
down.
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L23[10:39:32] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
look at your phones browser for a project to play with
L24[12:09:59] <TheGaminAutomyst> Does Wocchat work on OC
1.12.2? Cause I installed it to a computer using oppm , and upon
running it just does nothing and prints no information or
anything
<TheGaminAutomyst> Does Wocchat work on OC
1.12.2? Cause I installed it to a computer using oppm , and upon
running it just does nothing and prints no information or
anythingL25[12:16:18] <Amanda> I believe it was
broken by the recent 1.8 OC release
L26[12:26:50] <TheGaminAutomyst> Ah
<TheGaminAutomyst> AhL27[12:29:06] <TheGaminAutomyst> Also can someone
explain to me what the use of the database upgrade is for the
description confuses me , what's the practical use for it , what
use case
<TheGaminAutomyst> Also can someone
explain to me what the use of the database upgrade is for the
description confuses me , what's the practical use for it , what
use caseL28[13:08:33] <Corded> >
<Kristopher38> @AR2000 since you're the kind of person that
would know thi…
L29[13:08:34] <Kristopher38> to answer my own question -
performing many small reads is definitely a lot slower than one
large read
<Kristopher38> to answer my own question -
performing many small reads is definitely a lot slower than one
large readL30[13:09:24] <Kristopher38> so it seems like the call
budget cost doesn't scale with the amount of requested bytes
<Kristopher38> so it seems like the call
budget cost doesn't scale with the amount of requested bytesL31[13:50:20] <Amanda> %choose continue
staring at editor or cubes
L32[13:50:20] <MichiBot> Amanda:
"continue staring at editor" is for cool kids!
L33[13:50:38] <Amanda> Well, I'm definately
not a goat kitten, so time to cubes
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L36[14:46:03] <Corded> >
<TheGaminAutomyst> Does Wocchat work on OC 1.12.2? Cause I
installed it to a c…
L37[14:46:03] <Spider
EveryOS> I thought OC only went up to like 1.8.3 or so
<Spider
EveryOS> I thought OC only went up to like 1.8.3 or soL38[14:50:49] <Corded> > <Spider
EveryOS> I thought OC only went up to like 1.8.3 or so
L39[14:50:49] <Mimiru>
1.8.3 is the OC version, not the MC version. OC supports up to
1.12.2
<Mimiru>
1.8.3 is the OC version, not the MC version. OC supports up to
1.12.2L40[14:51:04] <Corded> >
<TheGaminAutomyst> Also can someone explain to me what the
use of the database…
L41[14:51:04] <Forecaster> They date bases,
obviously
<Forecaster> They date bases,
obviouslyL42[14:51:44] <Spider
EveryOS> Oh, also
<Spider
EveryOS> Oh, alsoL43[14:51:47] <Spider
EveryOS> %tonkout
<Spider
EveryOS> %tonkoutL44[14:51:47] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Spider
EveryOS, you were not able to beat Spider EveryOS's record of 17
hours, 38 minutes and 21 seconds this time. 11 hours, 41 minutes
and 17 seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 57 minutes and 3
seconds!
L45[14:51:54] <Spider
EveryOS> Oh, oof
<Spider
EveryOS> Oh, oofL46[14:51:59] <Mimiru>
gg
<Mimiru>
ggL47[14:52:04] <Forecaster> that's a big miss
<Forecaster> that's a big missL48[14:52:20] <Spider
EveryOS> I dumbed out for a moment
<Spider
EveryOS> I dumbed out for a momentL49[14:53:38] <Spider
EveryOS> There's something OC related that I want to try doing
when I have a chance
<Spider
EveryOS> There's something OC related that I want to try doing
when I have a chanceL50[14:53:38] <Spider
EveryOS> But probably not today b/c college homework
exists
<Spider
EveryOS> But probably not today b/c college homework
existsL51[14:55:44] <Corded> >
<TheGaminAutomyst> Also can someone explain to me what the
use of the database…
L52[14:55:44] <Kristopher38> I think it was meant to
store data about items in an inventory but the inventory controller
offers similar functionality (and more) with some coding
<Kristopher38> I think it was meant to
store data about items in an inventory but the inventory controller
offers similar functionality (and more) with some codingL53[14:56:55] <Forecaster> it allows you to store item
data and make comparisons with item slots without storing an actual
item or implementing your own storage and comparison system
<Forecaster> it allows you to store item
data and make comparisons with item slots without storing an actual
item or implementing your own storage and comparison systemL54[14:57:26] <Forecaster> they're mainly meant for
crafting robots
<Forecaster> they're mainly meant for
crafting robotsL55[14:57:43] <Forecaster> as in, robots with a crafting
upgrade
<Forecaster> as in, robots with a crafting
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L57[14:58:34] <Kristopher38> only once exception is, I
believe, comparing items with NBT - unless you have the option to
be able to read nbts turned on (which is off by default), you can't
reliably do that comparison with just inventory controller as two
almost identical items that differ only in NBT data will look
identical to the inv controller
<Kristopher38> only once exception is, I
believe, comparing items with NBT - unless you have the option to
be able to read nbts turned on (which is off by default), you can't
reliably do that comparison with just inventory controller as two
almost identical items that differ only in NBT data will look
identical to the inv controllerL58[14:58:41] <Kristopher38> * one exception is, I
believe, comparing items with NBT - unless you have the option to
be able to read nbts turned on (which is off by default), you can't
reliably do that comparison with just inventory controller as two
almost identical items that differ only in NBT data will look
identical to the inv controller
<Kristopher38> * one exception is, I
believe, comparing items with NBT - unless you have the option to
be able to read nbts turned on (which is off by default), you can't
reliably do that comparison with just inventory controller as two
almost identical items that differ only in NBT data will look
identical to the inv controllerL59[15:05:54] <Corded> >
<TheGaminAutomyst> Also can someone explain to me what the
use of the database…
L60[15:05:55] <Forecaster> Did you read the wiki page on
it?
<Forecaster> Did you read the wiki page on
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L68[15:51:05] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> Did you read the wiki page on it?
L69[15:51:05] <TheGaminAutomyst> Yeah and it didn't make
much sense to me
<TheGaminAutomyst> Yeah and it didn't make
much sense to meL70[15:52:54] <Corded> >
<Forecaster> it allows you to store item data and make
comparisons with …
L71[15:52:54] <TheGaminAutomyst> Can you give an example
of a practical use for that? Cause I don't see the point
<TheGaminAutomyst> Can you give an example
of a practical use for that? Cause I don't see the pointL72[15:53:46] <Amanda> Pulling specific
items out of a chest with specific NBT data
L73[15:55:17] <Hawk777> Or, I guess, if you
have allowItemStackInspection turned off because you think that on
its own is kind of OP, then the database provides a way to achieve
some of the same things at a higher cost and in a more limited
way.
L74[15:58:44] <TheGaminAutomyst> I see
<TheGaminAutomyst> I seeL75[16:19:40] <Forecaster> If you don't see the point
then just ignore it
<Forecaster> If you don't see the point
then just ignore itL76[16:19:52] <Forecaster> I've never used it for
anything either
<Forecaster> I've never used it for
anything eitherL77[16:40:09] <Hawk777> Me neither TBH; it
is a bit niche I think.
L78[16:42:15] <TheGaminAutomyst> Yeah it seems very
niche
<TheGaminAutomyst> Yeah it seems very
nicheL79[19:17:27] <Amanda> %choose waves; em or
pressure
L80[19:17:28] <MichiBot> Amanda: em
waves
L81[19:24:34] <Amanda> Booo verizon won't
sell me a sim card for my pinephone.
L82[19:25:24] <Amanda> meh, for meow I'll
wait, might get a sim off a MVNO sometime later
L83[19:25:38] <stephan48> why that? what is
their reasoning?
L84[19:26:44] <Amanda> stephan48: probably
arguing "It's dangerous to the network" or some bs.
Verizon was one of the big carriers that was chomping at the bit
for net neutrality to never become a thing. I think the real reason
is they want to be able to install whatever bloatware they want on
the phone
L85[19:27:02] <stephan48> so the usualy
fuckery
L86[19:27:06] <stephan48> usual*
L87[19:27:23] <Amanda> I could have sworn
the FCC tore into Verizon in the past for this though, but maybe
not, or maybe the orange turd's FCC goon reversed the
decision
L88[19:27:32] <stephan48> "we only
want you to use our phones! or you bring yours and hand it to our
staff with admin creds so we can install stuffs!"
L89[19:27:40] <stephan48> i hate that
mentality
L90[19:27:58] <stephan48> here you just get
a simcard, they don't care where you put it in
L91[19:28:25] <stephan48> (unless the IMEI
- device id - is blocked in the network due to stolen devices or
fraud)
L92[19:28:47] <Amanda> Yeah, Verizon wants
the IMEI to even buy a sim card, and they claim the pinephone's
isn't valid
L93[19:28:54] <stephan48> meh
L94[19:29:04] <Amanda> Their "live
support" ( I suspect just a chatbot) claims "the device
is not compatible"
L95[19:29:52] <Amanda> According to the
pinephone wiki, people have had success with just buying a burner
phone and just transfering the SIM
L96[19:30:09] <Amanda> but I'm considering
a cheap-o MVNO instead, but I'll wait for a bit to decide
L97[19:30:23] <stephan48> MVNO? a
reseller?
L98[19:30:26] <Amanda> yeah
L99[19:30:49] <Amanda> Mint Mobile is more
than happy to sell me a SIM card for whatever the fuck I want
L100[19:31:03] <lunar_sam> i was able to
get a sim card for my pinephone
L101[19:31:13] <Amanda> lunar_sam: what
carrier?
L102[19:31:16] <lunar_sam> verizon
L103[19:31:28] <Amanda> oh? Did you do it
by going in-store or something?
L104[19:31:30] <lunar_sam> they just did
the initial network connection in a display phone they had
L105[19:31:36] <Amanda> heh
L106[19:31:43] <lunar_sam> yeah, went to
buy it in store
L107[19:31:57] <lunar_sam> then i used the
same sim card in my titan :p
L108[19:32:15] <Amanda> I wonder if
they're "supposed" to have done that, or if it was just a
curtious shibboleet situation
L109[19:32:44] <lunar_sam> i remember i
had to switch from t-mobile to verizon because t-mobile was
throttling my data lmao
L110[19:33:15] <Amanda> Yeah t-mo's whole
thing seems to be "Unlimited* data" ( first X GB is
high-speed, then they throttle you to dial-up speed )
L111[19:33:25] <lunar_sam> it wasn't even
that
L112[19:33:37] <lunar_sam> i didn't use
much data on my pinephone yet they still heavily throttled me
L113[19:33:52] <Amanda> ah
L114[19:34:14] <Mimiru>
T-Mo just... handed me a Sim card for a line I get for free, that I
told them I didn't even have a phone for... lol
<Mimiru>
T-Mo just... handed me a Sim card for a line I get for free, that I
told them I didn't even have a phone for... lolL115[19:34:24] <lunar_sam> i ended up
having to stop using my pinephone because i was having Issues
L116[19:34:33] <Amanda> I wonder if they
fingerprinted it as some low-data embedded thing so they throttled
it for that
L117[19:34:33] <Mimiru> I
have a Sim just... sitting here on my desk for shiggles.
<Mimiru> I
have a Sim just... sitting here on my desk for shiggles.L118[19:34:42] <lunar_sam> oh also, when i
got the t-mobile sim card, they tried to stick the wrong size
in
L119[19:34:51] <lunar_sam> i literally
told them what the size of the sim card was
L120[19:34:53] <lunar_sam> but w/e
L121[19:34:55] <lunar_sam> OH YEAH
L122[19:35:34] <Amanda> I'm not planning
on using my pinephone as an actual phone, still just as a PDA/MP3
player, but I thought it might be nice to have data without always
havign to tether to my phone
L123[19:35:50] <lunar_sam> i had to switch
from cricket wireless because AT&T literally blacklisted the
pinephone's modem
L124[19:36:02] <Amanda> Not surprised at
all
L125[19:36:29] <lunar_sam> it's depressing
that my experience with verizon has been the Least Worst(tm)
L126[19:36:40] <Amanda> Yeah...
L127[19:36:47] <Amanda> They apparently
just upped our bill again
L128[19:36:57] <lunar_sam> oof
L129[19:37:40] <lunar_sam> i need to scale
back my dad's unlimited plan, 'cause it's from when i was using my
pinephone as the home internet
L130[19:37:45] <lunar_sam> lmao
L131[19:38:03] <Mimiru>
Verizon broke my data across 4 phones for 3 weeks, kept trying to
say it was a Samsung issue (except the iPhones had an issue too...)
I moved to T-Mo, canceled my Verizon acct, and they STILL billed me
for multiple months.
<Mimiru>
Verizon broke my data across 4 phones for 3 weeks, kept trying to
say it was a Samsung issue (except the iPhones had an issue too...)
I moved to T-Mo, canceled my Verizon acct, and they STILL billed me
for multiple months.L132[19:38:08] <Mimiru>
Then sent me to effing collections.
<Mimiru>
Then sent me to effing collections.L133[19:38:14] <Mimiru>
Fuck Verizon :P
<Mimiru>
Fuck Verizon :PL134[19:39:54] <Amanda> Only good thing I
can say about verizon atm is the FIOS is much faster and more
symmetrical than the comcast connection was
L135[19:40:06] <Amanda> ( For home
internet )
L136[19:40:45] <lunar_sam> last i checked,
n-telos (now sprint (now t-mobile)) was after my dad for a while,
even after he paid his bills
L137[19:40:48] <Mimiru>
Verizon sold their FIOS to Frontier who sold it to Ziply Fiber in
the PNW
<Mimiru>
Verizon sold their FIOS to Frontier who sold it to Ziply Fiber in
the PNWL138[19:41:05] <lunar_sam> also comcast is
literally the devil and i cannot be convinced otherwise
L139[19:41:26] <Amanda> Yeah, it's either
comcrap or Verizon FIOS here
L140[19:41:36] <lunar_sam> that's how it
is here too
L141[19:41:41] <lunar_sam> actually, at my
last house, it was only comcat
L142[19:41:44] <lunar_sam> *comcast
L143[19:41:56] <Amanda> It was only
comcast or dial-up-speed DSL for a long time here
L144[19:42:05] <Amanda> Verizon moved in
in the last like 5 years
L145[19:42:16] <lunar_sam> the copper
lines were (allegedly) so fucked up that DSL wasn't possible
lmao
L146[19:42:24] <lunar_sam> verizon
wireless _officially_ didn't offer home 4G in my area
L147[19:42:45] <lunar_sam> however, i got
fine phone service, so they were like "yeah, try it out, and
you can return it if it doesn't work"
L148[19:43:30] <lunar_sam> and now i have
5G home internet because i actually get 5G here so that's a
Thing
L149[19:44:22] <lunar_sam> honestly i just
hate ISPs
L150[19:44:30] <Amanda> That's by
design
L151[19:44:34] <lunar_sam> 🚬️
L152[19:44:42] <Mimiru> My
only complaint with ziply is no IPv6
<Mimiru> My
only complaint with ziply is no IPv6L153[19:44:44] <lunar_sam> time to set up
my own ISP
L154[19:44:57] <Amanda> With blackjack,
and scritchies?
L155[19:45:18] <Mimiru>
Oh... ok... 2.. No Ipv6, and no static IPs without a business
plan
<Mimiru>
Oh... ok... 2.. No Ipv6, and no static IPs without a business
planL156[19:45:45] <Amanda> no static IPs w/o
a buisness plan seems to be a theme. It's the same with Verizon
FIOS, though it's effectively semi-static
L157[19:46:04] <lunar_sam> it's
funny
L158[19:46:07] <Mimiru>
Mine is static AS LONG as the router doesn't reboot ._.
<Mimiru>
Mine is static AS LONG as the router doesn't reboot ._.L159[19:46:12] <Amanda> Except for ipv6,
which seems to change whenever a tardigrade farts
L160[19:46:25] <lunar_sam> my verizon 5G
`cube` has dynamic DNS settings
L161[19:47:13] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/aPUjop1zG4pmlXyqHxAphYfMbDs8ieC3b0TDhx3k/bad57b70-10b7-45ab-8cdf-a94a4fe1b2a2.png
L162[19:49:18] <Mimiru> I
would have known that was a Verizon product even without you saying
it was a Verizon product... that ux is burned into my brian
<Mimiru> I
would have known that was a Verizon product even without you saying
it was a Verizon product... that ux is burned into my brianL163[19:49:28] <lunar_sam> yeah....
L164[19:49:44] <lunar_sam> i have some
older verizon routers laying around, among other random crap
L165[19:51:05] <lunar_sam> honestly my
biggest fuckin annoyance with this thing is that the modem hangs a
lot
L166[19:51:08] <lunar_sam> especially
under load
L167[21:19:25] <Amanda> %choose wait for
tacos or make piazza
L168[21:19:26] <MichiBot> Amanda: Why not
both? Okay fine. "wait for tacos".
L169[21:28:26] <Amanda> %choose
laptopnaptime?
L170[21:28:26] <MichiBot> Amanda: I
haven't received enough pats recently, so no.
L171[21:28:33] <Amanda> %pat
MichiBot
L172[21:28:33] <MichiBot> Amanda is
brushing MichiBot with an entire roast fox. MichiBot regains 1d4
=> 3 hit points! The entire roast fox returned to it's original
reality.
L173[21:33:15] <Amanda> %choose pizza or
pasta
L174[21:33:15] <MichiBot> Amanda: The
sands of time whisper to me... they're saying
"pasta".
L175[21:36:11] <Amanda> %choose stories or
radiation
L176[21:36:11] <MichiBot> Amanda: Out of
these two choices? I'd say "stories".
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