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L1[00:00:20]
<Mimiru>
sorry... it defaulted into delete history, and I'm in the middle of
a gun fight
L2[00:00:37] <Liizzii> nah, it's fine, i can
see deleted messages
L3[00:00:41] <lunar_sam> good lord, what was
wrong with bro
L5[00:00:52] <Izzy> for your viewing ... for
your viewing.
L6[00:01:05] <Corded> > <Liizzii>
nah, it's fine, i can see deleted messages
L7[00:01:05]
<Mimiru> me
too :P
L8[00:01:11] <Amanda> Inb4 some Twitter bro
makes a stupid rant about how oc is full of cucks and "woke
mind virus"
L9[00:01:14]
<AR2000> A
class case of someone who wants to learn without having to
learn
L10[00:01:44]
<AR2000> *
classic case of someone who wants to learn without having to
learn
L11[00:02:39] <Liizzii> looking back at
some of their messages
L12[00:02:46] <Amanda> I only skinned the
backlog after checking in and saw they started abrasive after I
started reading, and recent messages were still abrasive, so I
decided to do the ping
L13[00:02:56] <Amanda> Skimmed*
L14[00:03:00] <Izzy> can I just get some
appreciation for "links outside of discord are against the
TOS"
L15[00:03:11] <Liizzii> basically just
boils down to "i don't know shit about computers, i just use
windows, press buttons and it works"
L16[00:03:56] <Liizzii> Izzy, where was
that? might not have gotten to that bit of the backlog yet
lol
L17[00:04:35] <Amanda> I'm tickled by
insinuating Linux is used by "0.001% of people" when
semi-recently the fact Linux pushed to 4% market share was all over
my social feeds
L18[00:04:48] <Izzy> L223
L19[00:05:12] <Amanda> Granted I've been
part of those 4% for a long time, still found it funny
L20[00:05:31] <lunar_sam> my favorite that
i saw so far was "linux people are insufferable" while
bro went on being a dick to everyone
L21[00:05:31] <Liizzii> Izzy, i... *deep
sigh*
L22[00:05:41] <Liizzii> lunar_sam, i know
right?
L23[00:05:59]
<DemiseDevil> hi, so i made a new floppy
disk and I'm just curious why there's already storage being used
up
L24[00:05:59]
<DemiseDevil> I tried wiping it and upon
checking again its still using 1% of storage.
L26[00:06:22] <Izzy> nah, the root
directory is a directory, and the minimum size any file or
directory can be is 512 bytes
L27[00:06:29]
<DemiseDevil> i should have 512kb
available instead of 511.5kb
L28[00:06:33] <lunar_sam> i would assume
it's because of metadata overhead
L29[00:06:54] <Liizzii> the fucktard
probably only uses windows, grabbed the first modpack launcher they
could find and hit install without knowing what they were trying to
use
L30[00:07:17]
<DemiseDevil> how do i remove it?
L31[00:07:18]
<DemiseDevil> i tried going into the
directory of the floppy after mounting it and it shows that nothing
is inside it
L32[00:07:32] <Izzy> you can't, it's just
the structure of the filesystem
L33[00:07:37] <lunar_sam> i really wanted
to pull out "yapping level: catastrophic"
L34[00:07:49]
<DemiseDevil> so.. my storage gets eaten
up by this metadata thing no matter what I do?
L35[00:08:08] <Izzy> again, the minimum
size of any file or directory is 512 bytes
L36[00:08:30] <lunar_sam> it's just a
limitation of filesystems in general
L37[00:08:39]
<Mimiru>
It's like this in the real world too.
L39[00:09:04] <Liizzii> also, this
"niche operating system" that has like, a major market
share in the datacenter and probably 99% of the minecraft server
hosts run their stuff on linux
L40[00:09:37] <Corded> >
<Michiyo> It's like this in the real world too.
L41[00:09:37]
<DemiseDevil> uh, is it?
L42[00:09:37]
<DemiseDevil> my USB drives don't have
storage eaten up by that metadata thing irl so
L43[00:09:43] <lunar_sam> it sure
does!
L44[00:09:49]
<Mimiru> I
can assure you, it does.
L45[00:09:51] <lunar_sam> in fact, your USB
drive has even more eaten up
L46[00:10:09] <lunar_sam> since that also
has to store real filesystem metadata
L47[00:10:10] <Izzy> don't you lose at
least 1KiB to the partition table and boot sector alone?
L48[00:10:34] <lunar_sam> you also lose
storage to uhhh, what's it called in FAT
L49[00:10:36] <Liizzii> your usb drives
just have so much more capacity that a few kilobytes is not gonna
make a dent
L50[00:10:57]
<DemiseDevil> ok
L51[00:11:09]
<DemiseDevil> in my floppy it still makes
a large dent though
L52[00:11:28]
<DemiseDevil> how much bytes does 1 text
character use?
L54[00:11:38] <Izzy> 1/1024th is sizable I
suppose
L55[00:13:00] <Izzy> from a practical
perspective, having directories included in disk usage accounting
in-game means that you can't have OC make a trillion directories
and run the server out of disk space (because directories do take
disk space) without ever actually using any counted space on the
disk
L56[00:13:05]
<DemiseDevil> ok, and is there gregtech
compatibility
L57[00:13:17] <Amanda> In your irl
computer, right-click a folder, select properties. "Size"
won't be the same as "size on disk" -- the latter
includes the fs metadata
L58[00:13:18]
<DemiseDevil> I want to monitor stuff like
power levels on my battery banks
L59[00:14:03]
<Kristopher38> there should be? if you're
running gt:nh OC is well-maintained there
L60[00:14:35]
<DemiseDevil> any guides?
L61[00:14:52] <Amanda> Man, dickhead
distracted me from saying goodnight to my dad whose out of
town
L62[00:16:19]
<Kristopher38> guides are hard to come
by
L63[00:16:30]
<DemiseDevil> nobody has made any?
L65[00:18:13]
<Kristopher38> otherwise your best bet is
connecting a computer to whatever you want to measure and seeing if
any new components pop up when you type `components`
L66[00:18:27]
<DemiseDevil> one of the tooltips on the
OpenOS said I need a special floppy to install stuff off of
github
L67[00:19:26]
<Kristopher38> reading the readme I can
see that nidas has its own installer, you should be able to get it
without that special floppy
L68[00:19:39] <Liizzii> That might be
referring to OPPM (OpenOS Package Manager) which is on a different
one of the different floppys
L69[00:19:46] <Liizzii> you will need an
internet card in the machine tho
L70[00:23:32]
<Lilirine>
looks like just wget
L71[00:29:07] <Izzy> is it all one thing or
multiple packages?
L72[00:31:31]
<DemiseDevil> how do i use the
analyzer?
L73[00:31:36]
<DemiseDevil> right clicking on stuff does
nothing
L74[00:32:20] <Izzy> try
shift-right-clicking instead
L75[00:43:52] *
Amanda snuggles back up around Elfi, having finished her visit to
the rain box, debates reading more gay dragon tamer girls stories
or being responsible and letting herself zzzmew sin
L76[00:44:04] <Amanda> s/sin$/soon/
L77[00:45:27] <Liizzii> "I'll just
check this quick thing with our hyperv stuff at
work"....
L78[00:45:32] <Liizzii> it's never fucking
quick
L79[00:45:47] <Liizzii> in fact, i'm not
entirely convinced this thing hasn't just stalled out
L80[00:45:54] <Liizzii> would be a very M$
thing to do
L81[00:46:31] <Corded> >
<Liizzii> the fucktard probably only uses windows, grabbed
the first …
L82[00:46:31]
<skittally>
chill
L83[00:49:56] <Izzy> oh while cool people
are here, I got sick of running out of space for /home so I went
for the least hinged solution possible
L85[01:26:51] *
Amanda pads over, curls up in Izzy's lap, trapping her in her
chair, does a heccen zzzmew
L86[01:26:56] <Amanda> Night girls
L87[01:27:10] <Izzy> ah, terrible, will
just have to keep breeding minotaur/bnuuy hybrids
L88[03:15:19]
<Forecaster> Oh good, one of those
people
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L90[04:45:31] <CompanionCube> !ping
L91[04:45:39] <CompanionCube> %ping
L92[04:45:40] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
CompanionCube 0.54s
L93[04:45:41] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
CompanionCube 0.73s
L94[05:49:59]
<ZuluFox>
Hey, does anyone know how one would automate IC2 crop
breeding/mutations with OpenComputers? Is there a written guide or
a video guide somewhere?
L95[06:33:50] <CompanionCube> Izzy: btw,
after a few failed booting attempts I got live KDE Neon to work
earlier, because I wanted to try KDE (was also first actual
experience of Wayland lol), want to explore more but thoughts are
mostly positive even though at the end I managed to crash the
compositor and therefore Firefox (but not Konsole)
L96[06:34:15] <Izzy> neat!
L97[06:35:27] <CompanionCube> (note: the
failures were related me to be booting the .iso on my disk from
GRUB)
L98[06:43:26] <CompanionCube> at one point
i remembered netboot.xyz is a thing and tried that, i got it to
fail in three different ways, and also i attempted something cursed
with the 'interactive netboot' function that apparently
exists.
L99[06:55:20] <Corded> > <Corded>
creeper-235 Joined #oc On IRC
L100[06:55:20]
<idealChainsaw> the ingame IRC appears to
be borked 😦
L101[06:55:42] <CompanionCube> oh?
L102[06:55:48]
<idealChainsaw> i thiiink
L103[06:55:56]
<idealChainsaw> will test when 1.12
starts
L104[06:56:08] <Izzy> oh, yeah, it was
acting weird for me also
L105[06:56:10] <Izzy> try to specify
irc.esper.net
L106[06:56:14] <Izzy> or one of the
servers
L107[06:57:20] <CompanionCube> %inv add
displayport audio
L108[06:57:20] *
MichiBot summons 'displayport audio' and adds to their inventory. I
could get some good swings in with this.
L109[06:58:13] <CompanionCube> i forgot
that was a thing earlier which lead to surprises and me wondering
where a mysterious speaker could be
L110[06:58:18] <Corded> >
<CompanionCube> %inv add displayport audio
L111[06:58:18]
<idealChainsaw> what are you trying to
do...
L112[06:58:37] <CompanionCube> %loot
L113[06:58:37] <MichiBot> CompanionCube:
You get a loot box! It contains the Shiny concept of immortality!
(10%) (10%)
L114[06:58:52] <CompanionCube> does that
make me a shiny immortal now
L115[06:59:05]
<idealChainsaw> %loot
L116[06:59:19] <CompanionCube> it hqs a
cooldown
L117[07:00:28]
<idealChainsaw> i think it only works for
the ingame client
L118[07:01:11] <CompanionCube> i'm not
using the ingame client
L119[07:01:55]
<Forecaster> CC is now a sparkly vampire
confirmed
L120[07:02:16] <CompanionCube> who said
snything about vampirism
L121[07:02:23]
<Forecaster> I did
L122[07:02:41] *
CompanionCube sucks Forecaster's blood
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L124[07:04:59] <creeper-265> hmmm
L125[07:05:13] <creeper-265> it is
confirmed to work now
L126[07:05:35] <creeper-265> in my
survival world, it didn't, even tried connecting to different
proxies, still failed
L127[07:05:42] <creeper-265> %loot
L128[07:05:42] <MichiBot> creeper-265:
You get a loot box! It contains an inverted hole. (Junk)
L129[07:05:51] <creeper-265> %loot
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L132[07:29:20]
<Forecaster> Inverted holes, for when you
have too many holes
L133[07:30:43] <CompanionCube> Izzy: also
what is with that SAS cab,e
L134[07:30:59] <Izzy> that's just what SAS
cables are like
L135[07:31:07] <Izzy> the drive-side
connector is like SATA without a gap
L136[07:31:23] <Izzy> and the connector on
the HBA side has 4 channels
L137[07:31:50] <Izzy> so for a direct HBA
-> drive connection, you have a 1-to-4 splitter with a
passthrough for normal SATA power
L138[07:35:08] <CompanionCube> huh
L139[07:37:46] <CompanionCube> will you
actually be doing RAID, or no?
L140[07:46:50] <Izzy> yeah, gonna do RAID
1 with that pair of drives
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L143[08:42:23] <Izzy> huh
L144[08:42:34] <Izzy> I found what was
causing 'failed to write' on OpenOS on rtfs volumes
L145[08:42:42] <Izzy> write would
sometimes not return anything
L146[08:43:05] <Izzy> because sometimes it
wouldn't require any actual disk commits
L147[08:43:42]
<Forecaster> that's weird
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L150[09:11:27] <amaRilay> Всем qq
L152[09:14:38] <Izzy> also notable: that
5.75 is the computer.uptime() when the motd executes
L153[09:14:58] <Izzy> booting from rtfs
saves 0.05-0.1s compared to booting from a filesystem
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L155[09:34:37] <Izzy> initially I didn't
implement any caching mechanism and with how many files and
directories an OpenOS install contains it was painful. I gave up
trying to edit a file after waiting several minutes on a blank
screen
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L175[09:47:04] <Izzy> at least the
LLM-generated porn was morbidly amusing
L176[09:47:44] <SkIbIdI> I
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L179[09:48:24] <amaRilay> Иззи кста а
Skibidi toilet не пробегал?
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L181[10:47:31] <Forecaster> hrm, I can't
ban an ip
L182[10:49:13] <Forecaster> Michiyo or
Liizzii
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L185[12:03:34] <Forecaster> right,
chanserv
L186[12:03:56] <Forecaster> ...that's not
the whole address
L187[12:04:38] <Forecaster> oh, oops
L188[12:05:39] <Forecaster> there, that
looks better
L189[12:08:44] *** zsh sets mode: -b
*!92.124.163.1@*
L190[12:09:55] *
Amanda meows and looks around, does a heccen biiiiggg stretchie,
lets Izzy go
L191[12:10:35] <Izzy> Amanda: you'll be
happy to know I ended up with the bnuuy-minotaur messiah
L193[12:11:51] <Amanda> Is she passed out
in bed with a bottle of alchol on the foot of the bed?
L194[12:12:08] <Amanda> ( I can't read the
screenshot that well, not sure where to look for info )
L195[12:12:23] <Izzy> the bottle shape at
the end of the bed is the kid
L196[12:12:39] <Amanda> ah
L197[12:12:52] <Izzy> who ended up with
herculean (can wield really big weapons) and an aptitude for the
epsilon axe (the best(?) really big melee weapon)
L198[12:13:24] <Izzy> she's gonna
demolish
L199[12:26:38] <Amanda> %choose cubes or
try and be productive today first
L200[12:26:38] <MichiBot> Amanda: Wait,
what was the question again? Uhh... "try and be productive
today first"?
L201[12:38:34] <Amanda> okay, that's my
open PRs closed, time fro cubes
L202[14:00:22]
<Ocawesome101> %oclogs
L204[14:05:20] <Michiyo> %p
L205[14:05:22] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Michiyo 0.68s
L206[14:46:22]
<Forecaster> %sip
L207[14:46:23] <MichiBot> You drink a
liquid strawberry potion (New!). Forecaster reboots for an update
for 8 minutes.
L208[14:46:51]
<Forecaster> But I was already the latest
version
L209[14:48:00]
<Forecaster> %tonkout
L210[14:48:00] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 15 hours, 2
minutes and 31 seconds (By 2 hours, 58 minutes and 59 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L211[14:48:01] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.018 tonk points!
plus 0.034 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.89383, Position #2 Need 0.49958 more points to pass Vaur!
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L215[20:29:37] *
Amanda meows and looks around
L216[20:30:46] <Amanda> %choose halcuinate
or cubes and em waves
L217[20:30:46] <MichiBot> Amanda: Eeny,
meeny, miny, cubes and em waves.
L218[20:39:12]
<Brisingr
Aerowing> %splash @Forecaster with mutable potion
L219[20:39:12] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable dilithium potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster.
@Forecaster turns into a toad boy until they eat a pie.
L220[20:59:39] <Amanda> Blargh
L221[21:01:30] *
Amanda flops down atop Elfi, demands affection and more stories to
read, because she's out of spoons for cubes
L223[21:02:04] *
Elfi petpetpetpetpets, digs out An Anomaly in the
Underground
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