L1[01:10:38] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or rain box

L2[01:10:39] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: "halucinate" is for cool kids!

L3[01:10:57] <Amanda> %8ball low-temp goat kitten?

L4[01:10:57] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Reply hazy, try again

L5[01:11:04] <Amanda> Hrm

L6[01:11:19] <Amanda> %8ball goat kitten?

L7[01:11:19] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Signs point to yes

L8[01:11:25] <Amanda> Yay

L10[03:03:21] <Amanda> %choose be good or irradiate

L11[03:03:21] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely "irradiate". Hm, this is surprisingly good...

L12[03:04:03] <Amanda> Hrm

L13[03:04:15] <Amanda> Elfi dusting me with sleepy dust says no

L15[03:05:00] <Amanda> Night girls

L17[04:20:44] <Forec​aster> %sip

L18[04:20:45] <MichiBot> You drink a seeping orange potion (New!). Forecaster zones out for 1 minute.

L21[07:37:50] <Ash​irg> %sip

L22[07:37:52] <MichiBot> You drink an unaligned sky potion (New!). Ashirg thinks "What if, like, *we* are the potions man?". This makes no sense whatsoever.

L23[07:39:43] <Ash​irg> %tonk

L24[07:39:43] <MichiBot> Ash​irg: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk

L25[07:39:50] <Ash​irg> Again?

L26[07:40:08] <Ash​irg> %tonk A1E81

L27[07:40:08] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ashirg, you were not able to beat Ocawesome101's record of 16 hours, 20 minutes and 39 seconds this time. 14 hours, 31 minutes and 33 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 49 minutes and 5 seconds!

L28[07:40:18] <Ash​irg> Science dammit

L29[07:40:26] <Ash​irg> My brain strikes again

L31[12:15:13] <Amanda> @Ashirg did you have points for this year already? If so, poke michiyo because she had to manually restore points due to an database oopsie

L33[13:14:02] <S​3> @gruetzkopf https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/943224671183204374/1181582094493810688/received_893683001908123.png?ex=65819514&is=656f2014&hm=02087c0cfb87297ca2247ff54221487f1067dd41d6dc336672e35732a37837cc&

L34[13:14:50] <Corded> > <Ash​irg> My brain strikes again

L35[13:14:50] <Forec​aster> You shouldn't strike things with your brain

L36[13:14:54] <Forec​aster> I've heard that's bad

L37[16:33:49] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> @Ashirg did you have points for this year already? If so, p…

L38[16:33:49] <Ash​irg> Not enough points to be worth the trouble.

L41[16:45:12] <Forec​aster> But trouble enough to be worth points

L42[16:49:19] <Amanda> jackie: IIRC you're using ceph with pve, I forget are you using pve's ceph stuff, or cephadm and then adding it as an external storage?

L43[16:50:12] <Amanda> I'm considering attempting to convert my pve-ceph stuff to cephadm becasue I'm getting increasingly annoyed with pve's handling of it

L44[17:35:58] <gruetzkopf> @S3 excellent

L46[17:36:46] <gruetzkopf> meow!

L47[17:47:38] <Amanda> What about you, gruetzkopf any advice for maybe converting a pveceph cluster to cephadm?

L48[17:49:28] <gruetzkopf> i'm strictly on pve-ceph for one system and cephadm for the other

L49[17:50:59] <Amanda> pve-ceph is annoying me with the lack of documentation, and the fact a lot of documentation's unusable for it, like, I managed to hack together a radosgw against it, but now I want nfs, but I don't really feel like going into the weeds again for that, but I'm worried attempting to adopt the pveceph stuff into cephadm will lose all my data.

L50[17:52:28] <Amanda> And at the moment my ceph stuff isn't backed up

L51[17:53:41] <Amanda> gruetzkopf: or wait, did you mean they're both connected into one cluster?

L52[18:03:13] <gruetzkopf> no, completely seperate clusters

L53[18:03:18] <Amanda> ah

L54[18:05:40] <Amanda> %choose play russian roulette with my data?

L55[18:05:40] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: "play russian roulette with my data" doesn't really seem like a good idea right now.

L56[18:06:15] <Mim​iru> Sage advice...

L57[18:06:34] <Amanda> guess I'll wait to hear from jackie and some people I asked elsenet

L58[18:09:34] <Amanda> gruetzkopf: do you have anything for backing up your ceph data? I should probably do something like that anyway, but it would definately give me a safety net to start

L59[18:24:13] <Amanda> %choose take a break to halucinate or continue staring at ceph docs

L60[18:24:13] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: take a break to halucinate'os, for a complete breakfast!

L61[18:24:54] <Forec​aster> %sip

L62[18:24:55] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly transparent potion (New!). Forecaster's eyes glow pink until someone stabs them.

L63[19:42:22] <Va​ur> %tonk

L64[19:42:23] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Vaur, you were not able to beat Ocawesome101's record of 16 hours, 20 minutes and 39 seconds this time. 12 hours, 2 minutes and 13 seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 18 minutes and 25 seconds!

L65[19:42:53] <Corded> > <Mich​iBot> I'm sorry Ashirg, you were not able to beat Ocawesome101's …

L66[19:42:53] <Va​ur> I missed this one

L67[19:49:03] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> %stab @Forecaster

L68[19:49:03] <MichiBot> Brisingr Aerowing is trying to stab @Forec​aster! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!

L69[19:49:30] <MichiBot> Brisingr Aerowing is stabbing @Forecaster with a poorly-secured jar of wasps for 1d4 => 2 damage! For all of the poorly-secured jar of wasps's flaws, it's biggest was that it no longer exists.

L71[20:11:01] <Forec​aster> ow

L72[21:31:49] <jackie> Amanda: I'm using Ceph with the PVE built-in thing

L73[21:32:08] <jackie> what issues do you have with PVEs handling of it?

L74[21:33:27] <jackie> As for backups I can highly recommend proxmox backup server for your PVE. It works really nicely

L75[21:45:43] <Amanda> jackie: Mostly the way that to use rgw or nfs or similar, I'm going to have to write it all myself, and honestly that feels like a massive spoon-sink, plus because of how they did it, a lot of docs I'm fiding in searching simply doesn't apply

L76[21:46:52] <Amanda> jackie: proxmox backup server would require another box wouldn't it? I've got my three nucs, and I don't think I want another at this time

L77[21:47:19] <Amanda> or could it act as a remote backup then just transfer whatever directly to backblaze/s3/whatever

L78[21:49:02] <Amanda> jackie: I'm still not sure exactly how right I got my ansible role to setup storage.camnet.site as a radosgw frontend, because a lot of the docs I could find assume cephadm, or deep knowledge of ceph I simply don't have

L79[21:50:04] <Amanda> I want to expose a nfs server to a cephfs volume so I can make the disk much smaller on my hass server now that it supports external storage

L80[21:50:25] <Amanda> Sorry, I'm probably rambling, brain's a bit power deprived

L81[21:53:37] <jackie> pbs installed alongside pve is a supported config but it does expect local storage

L82[21:54:09] <Amanda> ah

L83[21:58:33] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?

L84[21:58:34] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Once the moon cycle restarts you should definitely do it!

L85[21:59:00] <Amanda> As I've established, the moon cycle starts whevener you want it to, so laptopnaptime is a go

L87[22:38:12] <Amanda> "I already beat half-life 3 dozens of times, and it only came out last year" - protagonist of a cyberpunk dystopia story, in the late 2100s

L88[22:43:08] <Izzy> anyone using PXE to install Linux Mint? DNS from DHCP doesn't work on PXE-booted systems for me, was hoping someone else could confirm it's not just me