L3[01:22:34] <Amanda> %choose ☢️ or 💤 🐈

L4[01:22:34] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Elementary dear Watson, "☢️" is the obvious choice!

L5[01:47:54] <Amanda> There's nothing to ☢️ so I'll 💤🐈

L7[01:50:04] <Amanda> Night girls

L8[02:36:58] <Forec​aster> %sip

L9[02:36:59] <MichiBot> You drink a dusty lime potion (New!). Forecaster gains some curse. Forecaster has 1 curse. (Rem. uses: 0)

L10[02:41:39] <Forec​aster> What the... Why did I wake up at 3:30....

L11[02:41:55] <Forec​aster> 😔

L12[03:24:22] <MyName​IsKodos> Is that rhetorical or nah

L13[04:45:21] <Forec​aster> I would love to know why

L18[06:46:04] <Va​ur> %sip

L19[06:46:05] <MichiBot> You drink a porous dirt potion (New!). Vaur: Nothing seemed to happen...

L26[09:13:39] <Forec​aster> %tonkout

L27[09:13:41] <MichiBot> Eureka! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 18 hours, 25 minutes and 52 seconds (By 1 hour, 11 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L28[09:13:42] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.019 tonk points! plus 0.018 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.67648842. Position #1

L29[12:03:31] <Liizzii> %tonk

L30[12:03:31] <MichiBot> Yay! Lii​zzii! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 49 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L31[12:03:32] <MichiBot> Liizzii's new record is 2 hours, 49 minutes and 51 seconds! Liizzii also gained 0.00283 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #19 => #18. (Overtook redstoneparkour) Need 0.00308 more points to pass walks​anator!

L32[13:34:33] <Forec​aster> ugh

L33[13:34:37] <Forec​aster> I hate this cold

L34[13:34:48] <Forec​aster> my eyes are running so much that I have rashes around them

L35[13:49:29] <Forec​aster> this is day four as well

L36[13:49:32] <Forec​aster> >:

L41[17:17:34] <Va​ur> %tonk

L42[17:17:35] <MichiBot> Shoot! Va​ur! You beat Lii​zzii's previous record of 2 hours, 49 minutes and 51 seconds (By 2 hours, 24 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L43[17:17:36] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 5 hours, 14 minutes and 3 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0072 (0.0024 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.05417 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L44[17:34:38] <Comput​erCoco> Ayyo question

L45[17:34:38] <Comput​erCoco> Is there any reason why OC use regular Lua instead of LuaJIT? Is it like, safer for sandboxing or something?

L46[17:35:38] <Michiyo> Because LuaJIT doesn't support persistence

L47[17:35:49] <Michiyo> AFAIK anyway

L48[17:36:37] <Hawk777> Doesn’t it not use regular Lua either, I thought it used Eris, which was a fork of regular Lua to add persistence support?

L49[17:36:58] <Amanda> Eris is just a series of patches atop regular lua, AIUI

L50[17:37:32] <Hawk777> Ah, OK. So sort of, but not entirely vanilla, regular Lua.

L51[17:41:41] <Corded> > <Mic​hiyo> Because LuaJIT doesn't support persistence

L52[17:41:41] <Comput​erCoco> What exactly do you mean by persistence? Like, the ability to pause an execution and save it to continue at a later date?

L53[17:41:57] <Hawk777> Yeah. Your computers are still running after you save your world and quit Minecraft and come back in.

L54[17:42:35] <Hawk777> (or just walk a long way away until they’re in unloaded chunks, or whatever)

L55[17:45:36] <Comput​erCoco> Yup, I really like that about OC

L56[17:45:36] <Comput​erCoco>

L57[17:45:36] <Comput​erCoco> So, LuaJIT does *not* support this?

L58[17:46:27] <Hawk777> Don’t think so.

L59[17:47:22] <Comput​erCoco> hmmm

L60[17:47:23] <Comput​erCoco> interesting

L61[17:51:07] <Amanda> Not like it really matters for a MC mod anyway, you're not going to be doing the kind of computation/workloads that would "benifit" from LuaJIT

L62[17:56:57] <SquidDev> AFAIK debug hooks won't work with the JIT either, so there's no way to stop misbehaving code.

L63[17:57:52] <Corded> > <Ama​nda> Not like it really matters for a MC mod anyway, you're not …

L64[17:57:52] <Comput​erCoco> yea xD

L65[17:57:52] <Comput​erCoco> Also I like how OC purposely imposes speeds on the cpus, feels nice

L66[18:37:01] <Amanda> %choose waves; em or pressure

L67[18:37:01] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: pressure waves

L71[19:36:19] <Liizzii> contemplation complete, it be ordered

L72[19:38:46] <Liizzii> also the wifi 6e usb adapter i ordered doesn't support monitor mode, so that's set to go back and i ordered a different one that explicitly said it supports monitor mode

L73[19:39:11] <Liizzii> new one doesn't support wifi 6e so can't check signal stuff for that at work but eh

L74[19:46:55] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?

L75[19:46:56] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Amanda's hair turns octarine

L76[19:47:00] <Amanda> rude!

L79[20:28:55] <Comput​erCoco> Question

L80[20:28:55] <Comput​erCoco> How does one determine the position of a player (in OC), from anywhere in the world?

L81[20:28:56] <Comput​erCoco> Wireless card triangulation has distance limits, so does nav upgrades, and tunnel cards don't give distance. Is there something Im missing or is it just not possible without having some infrastructure up first?

L82[20:32:38] <MyName​IsKodos> I think the debug card can do it

L83[20:32:55] <Comput​erCoco> Well

L84[20:32:55] <Comput​erCoco> I was hoping to not use cheats

L85[20:33:22] <MyName​IsKodos> Well I think positions not being global is for realism

L86[20:33:51] <MyName​IsKodos> %sip

L87[20:33:52] <MichiBot> You drink an endless red potion (New!). As MyNameIsKodos drinks the potion they become the target of a wad of llama spit! They fail to evade it with a 2 vs DC 12 and takes 1d​4 => 1 damage.

L88[20:37:03] <Corded> > <MyName​IsKodos> Well I think positions not being global is for realism

L89[20:37:04] <Comput​erCoco> I guess

L90[20:37:04] <Comput​erCoco> We have GPS IRL Tho

L91[20:37:04] <Comput​erCoco> Unfortunately I don't think making launchable satellites is in the scope of this mod tho xD

L92[20:39:38] <Hawk777> If this is for a robot, you can just integrate motion over time, since it’s all discrete integer positions. If it’s for a tablet, do navigation upgrades even work in them? The wiki page talks about them as if they are robot-only.

L95[20:42:59] <Corded> > <Haw​k777> If this is for a robot, you can just integrate motion over …

L96[20:42:59] <Comput​erCoco> nav upgrades do work on them

L97[20:43:55] <Hawk777> Huh, weird. The wiki page says “Allows the robot to tell its current position and facing.”

L98[21:16:16] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> @ComputerCoco https://oc.cil.li/topic/1941-gps-on-microcontrollers/?tab=comments#comment-9039

L99[21:16:23] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> GPS using OC

L100[21:16:28] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Well, "GPS"

L101[21:22:45] <Hawk777> Is scattering microcontrollers around the world better than scattering waypoints for some reason?

L102[21:28:42] <Amanda> Nav upgrades provide no data if you're not in the area the map covers, aiui

L103[21:30:11] <MyName​IsKodos> Cant you combine maps or is that only on newer mc

L104[21:32:30] <Amanda> That just makes a bigger, zoomed out map, which I think also limits the granularity of the nav upgrade

L105[21:32:49] <Hawk777> Oh I see, I assumed they would still see nearby waypoints just not provide a map-relative position.

L106[21:33:09] <Amanda> I might be mistaken, I never used them myself

L107[21:33:27] <Hawk777> Kinda silly IMO if it is, that you can’t see a waypoint that’s right next to you just because you don’t know your overall position.

L108[21:34:28] <Hawk777> The API docs on the wiki don’t suggest that. They document “getPosition” as returning “(nil, "out of range")”, but not “findWaypoints”.

L109[21:35:07] <MyName​IsKodos> Id test but i dont have access to anything but discord atm

L111[22:18:28] <Amanda> %choose rain box time?

L112[22:18:28] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Why would you do that when you could do something else instead?