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L1[00:32:18] <Izzy> I set up a pair of HP EliteDesk 800 G1s for my niece and nephew to play games on
L2[00:32:26] <Izzy> one of them refused to boot over USB, couldn't make it do it
L3[00:32:30] <Izzy> so I set up PXE
L4[00:32:42] <Izzy> turn up to the second one and ... it won't boot over PXE, but USB works fine
L5[00:36:04] <Amanda> Different bios configs?
L6[00:41:20] <Izzy> I guess, but I reset both to defaults
L7[00:49:55] <Amanda> Different bios versions and thus different defaults?
L8[01:24:21] <Amanda> Welp, back to campaigning for plant votes, night girls
L9[03:21:19] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L10[03:21:21] <MichiBot> Boo-yah! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 1 minute and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L11[03:21:22] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 1 minute and 44 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00603 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.04105746 more points to pass Ocawes​ome101!
L12[04:38:41] <Va​ur> %sip
L13[04:38:43] <MichiBot> You drink a dotted rubium potion (New!). Vaur's left sock is now cursed.
L14[05:06:03] <Colde​stImp> dang i wonder how did they made it so crisp. Maybe i need a different dithering algorithm https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1697432763221.png
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L16[05:31:58] <Elfi> All I can think of seeing this is how slow Amigas got when you got a super high-colour high-res backdrop set
L17[05:47:32] <Colde​stImp> lol what is amigas
L18[05:58:51] <Mic​hiyo> Amigas is the plural of Amiga
L19[05:58:52] <Mic​hiyo> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga
L20[06:08:13] <ThePiGuy24> @ColdestImp i doubt its the dithering, looks more like the colour selection thats off. the example image on the left appears to be using more optimal colours
L21[06:09:11] <ThePiGu​y24#0369> well thats odd, why did it move the ping to the end of the message on discord?
L22[06:09:36] <ThePiGu​y24#0369> https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1697436576221.png
L23[06:09:41] <ThePiGu​y24#0369> (the bridge that is)
L24[06:36:55] <Izzy> cronchy font
L25[06:37:49] <Comput​erCoco> apparently there is such things as *single instruction* assembly that is fully turing complete???
L26[06:37:49] <Comput​erCoco> You don
L27[06:38:05] <Izzy> look up movfuscator :D
L28[06:38:17] <Izzy> a compiler for the x86 MOV instruction
L29[06:38:37] <Comput​erCoco> oh boi
L30[06:39:35] <Izzy> or x86_64 anyway, IIRC
L31[06:39:54] <Izzy> I imagine plain x86 MOV is also turing complete but would require even more contortion to write a working target for
L32[06:39:57] <Comput​erCoco> crazy
L33[06:39:57] <Comput​erCoco> Thats even simpler than the Subleq one I found
L34[06:42:02] <Comput​erCoco> I *was* able to implement a Subleq emulator on a single TIS-3D module which is nice
L35[06:42:03] <Comput​erCoco> This all started cause I wanted to see how small of an instruction set I could make for my "microcontroller made of microcontrollers" thing, turns out I literally can't beat it as nobody can now with just 1 instruction being possible xD
L36[06:42:03] <Comput​erCoco> Guess I should strive to make it more... efficient
L37[06:42:21] <Izzy> The PDP-8 instruction set famously had 8 instructions
L38[06:42:28] <Izzy> I think it was 8
L39[06:42:30] <Izzy> it was a handful
L40[06:42:33] <Comput​erCoco> Ye, I think I saw the mentioned
L41[06:42:56] <Izzy> anyway, the secret is that one of them is actually like 512 instructions in one opcode
L42[06:43:25] <Comput​erCoco> huh
L43[06:43:25] <Comput​erCoco> Ill have to look into it
L44[06:44:33] <Mic​hiyo> Because it parses pings last, and just removes them and slaps them on the end
L45[07:13:57] <Hawk777> May I point out that the x86 memory management unit is actually Turing-complete with *zero* instructions? https://github.com/jbangert/trapcc
L46[07:14:53] <Hawk777> (well, zero x86 instructions at least…)
L47[07:18:16] <Izzy> this is impressively wrong and evil
L48[07:19:30] <Hawk777> Indeed!
L49[07:26:52] ⇦ Quits: Hawk777 (~Hawk777@2607:c000:8205:5000:7fc8:2180:1e16:ebac) (Quit: Leaving.)
L50[09:32:43] <luna​r_sam> oh boy
L51[09:33:09] <luna​r_sam> manmade horrors beyond my comprehension
L52[09:43:03] <Izzy> going to migrate the Minitel documentation to the topic of an XMPP MUC
L53[11:02:54] <ThePiGuy24> multi user chat is a bit of an odd term as it implies the existence of a single user chat
L54[11:07:25] <ThePiGuy24> Izzy: yes, is a nice 5x8 bitmap font from the everex micro enhancer. its not that practical but i like it ;p
L55[11:08:08] <ThePiGuy24> mainly found it for my little oled hack on my pinephone since thats only a 128x64 display, but i can use it elsewhere too ;p
L56[11:10:07] <Izzy> single user chat is 1:1 chats, presumably
L57[11:12:30] <ThePiGuy24> single user chat is just catting to /dev/null ;3
L58[11:13:25] <Izzy> ALSO
L59[11:13:28] <Izzy> I am Thinking
L60[11:13:35] <Izzy> I might move the PsychOS vi clone into its own executable
L61[11:13:54] <Izzy> separate from all the buffer handling functions
L62[11:14:08] <ThePiGuy24> to let openos users be masochists too? ;3
L63[11:14:16] <Izzy> no, actually
L64[11:14:43] <Izzy> so PsychOS could equally support a more traditional text editor
L65[11:14:49] <Izzy> but using the same framework
L66[11:16:02] <ThePiGu​y24#0369> i find this very cursed, just a rendered unicode vector emoji just chilling amongst bitmap text https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1697454962385.png
L67[11:16:20] <Izzy> been reading about DECTPU
L68[11:16:45] <Izzy> thinking it might be good to clone for PsychOS
L69[11:57:40] * Amanda meows at Elfi, wondering why she keeps dreaming about plants. This time there was space ores from Venus, which were actually sentient plant monsters, and Venus launched a war on my workshop class because we kept smelting them
L70[12:12:08] * Amanda checks Elfi for a map of feline pressure points, maybe she's been doing a heccen prank and pressing the "Think about plants" pressure point
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L72[13:18:03] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L73[13:24:34] <Forec​aster> I think there was a switch labelled that in an unlit room in the back that someone who's definitely not be may have leaned against
L74[14:10:02] <Forec​aster> %sip
L75[14:10:04] <MichiBot> You drink a shining purple potion (New!). The next remote Forecaster looks for is extra hard to find.
L76[14:14:27] <Forec​aster> good thing I wont need any
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L78[15:35:24] <Va​ur> %tonk
L79[15:35:25] <MichiBot> Wut! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 6 hours, 1 minute and 44 seconds (By 6 hours, 12 minutes and 19 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L80[15:35:26] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 12 hours, 14 minutes and 4 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.04347 (0.00621 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L81[15:42:44] <Colde​stImp> true
L82[16:37:40] <Liizzii> did a bit of an oopsie today
L83[16:41:21] <Liizzii> told one of our HyperV hosts at work (dual socket 10c/20t CPUs from '13) to allocate 20 cores to a temp VM so i could use a lot of cores to help re-compress large (multiple GB when uncompressed) logfiles from gzip to zstd-19. I'm not sure whether HV interpreted "20 cores" as 20 physical (meaning spanning across both sockets) or 20 virtual (using up
L84[16:41:21] <Liizzii> an entire cpu) but it didn't like it and ended up causing some cascading errors on the host that broke part of the networking setup and prevented any other vm on that host from reaching outside themselves
L85[16:43:15] <Liizzii> even after that temp vm was told to shutdown (and it did), the issues persisted. So i tried to shut down the vm I was wanting to compress the logs for, that got stuck, tried restarting the vmms process, that also got stuck, waited about 10 minutes then told the host to reboot, that got stuck as well so had to cold boot the host through iDRAC.
L86[16:43:29] <Liizzii> after it rebooted and rejoined the cluster, it started working again fine
L87[16:44:08] <Forec​aster> I bet that was a nerve wracking 10m
L88[16:44:11] <Liizzii> in the process i took out phones for one of our sites because their controller server was a VM running on the HV node i'd essentially crashed
L89[16:44:16] <Liizzii> it was longer than that
L90[16:44:38] <Liizzii> think about an hour in total from me buggering it up to eventually getting it back to working order
L91[16:44:50] <Amanda> Hrm. I wonder if this has anything to do with random stuff randomly timing out in my pve cluster: 'e1000e 0000:00:1f.6 eno1: Detected Hardware Unit Hang:' is in all three pve host dmesgs, usually ligning up with a ceph timeout, or a consul remaster
L92[16:45:52] <Liizzii> not helped by the fact that Failover Cluster Manager (like most of M$'s tools) is flaky and doesn't handle one of the 3 nodes being MIA properly
L93[16:46:09] <Liizzii> Amanda, sounds like it, perhaps try another NIC if you have one?
L94[16:46:31] <Amanda> Not really an option, it's a NUC
L95[16:46:35] <Liizzii> :/
L96[16:46:37] <Amanda> I guess I could buy usb ones
L97[16:47:10] <Liizzii> might be worth it for testing
L98[16:47:30] <Liizzii> are you running anything different on them? like >1500 MTU, etc
L99[16:48:03] <Amanda> What do you mean? Networking isn't my forte, I recognise MTU as the like packet size, but otherwise I'm lost?
L100[16:48:14] <Liizzii> yeah, packet size
L101[16:48:37] <Amanda> I've not touched any of that stuff, unless the pve defaults does then no
L102[16:48:44] <Liizzii> hmm, unsure then
L103[16:49:42] <Liizzii> our HV hosts use 9000byte MTUs on their iSCSI links to the shared storage
L104[16:51:46] <Liizzii> some zyxel 10Gig switches we have that were gonna be used to keep the iSCSI networks off the core switch (which at the time was suffering from memory problems and kept crashing, bring down the network at one site till it came up only to crash again 5m later) were very flaky with the 9000Byte MTU and so were abandoned
L105[16:52:21] <Amanda> Maybe I should be looking into something like ovs since I'm sure a not-insignificant amount of the traffic is in between vms on the same host, but that's a whole can of worms I'm not sure I'll ever have the spoons for
L106[16:52:40] <Amanda> or is the linux bridge stuff smart enough to not send such packets over the network
L107[16:52:49] <Liizzii> it should be smart enough to do that
L108[16:53:41] <Liizzii> at the very least the standard linux bridge on my server doesn't need the vms to call out to the "gateway" (the host) and go back
L109[16:56:17] <Liizzii> i wonder how practical it'd be to run a PVE cluster on some 2014 Mac Minis
L110[16:56:32] <Liizzii> likely not very
L111[16:56:40] <Amanda> I'm running a cluster on 3 intel NUCs 8th gen
L112[16:57:04] <Liizzii> seeing as the vms i have at home is just home assisant, a nginx container, opnsense for iot crap and that's it
L113[16:57:22] <Amanda> other than the random network timeouts, it's been pretty good
L114[17:22:20] <Amanda> Hrm, let's run a random command from the proxmox forums, see if that fixes it: "ethtool -K eno1 tso off"
L115[17:26:27] <Forec​aster> make sure to backup the current universe first
L116[17:34:17] <Amanda> Nah, the 14.5billion year backup's recent enough
L117[17:45:55] <Liizzii> Amanda, TSO controls whether the TCP/IP stack processing is offloaded to the network card, "on" means the NIC handles it, off means the system cpu handles it, it might fix your issue
L118[17:46:20] <Amanda> %remindme 24h check dmesg on 34tauri-* to see if the hang's stopped
L119[17:46:20] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check dmesg on 34tauri-* to see if the hang's stopped" in 24h at 10/17/2023 05:46:20 PM
L120[18:51:26] <Amanda> %remindme 45m check if the update succeeded
L121[18:51:27] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check if the update succeeded" in 45m at 10/16/2023 07:36:26 PM
L122[19:01:06] <Mic​hiyo> Oh damn how did I miss that Project Red updated to 1.18?
L123[19:02:29] <Amanda> Clearly you're not a true PR fan! :P
L124[19:02:45] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?
L125[19:02:45] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I flipped a coin. It said "Aaaaaaaaah!". It might have been a sapient coin...
L126[19:03:09] * Amanda beams the coin back to it's native dimension
L127[19:11:01] <Mic​hiyo> More likely I've just paid near 0 attention to anything MC related outside of this Discord and IRC channel :P
L128[19:11:22] <Amanda> :P
L129[19:11:26] <Amanda> Hrmhrm
L130[19:14:28] * Amanda snuggles up on nadja's lap, trapping her in place until she pays the toll
L131[19:14:54] <Amanda> The spoons are gone, give me yours.
L132[19:17:35] <Amanda> might be time to play more farming
L133[19:17:45] <Amanda> %choose farming or wait for reminder
L134[19:17:45] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely "farming". Now please get it out of my pudding.
L135[19:18:02] * Amanda adds more soil to MichiBot's pudding, and some mushrooms for good measure
L136[19:36:27] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check if the update succeeded
L137[19:42:04] <Liizzii> was project red the original by Eloram or the continuation one?
L138[19:42:41] <Liizzii> wait no the original was Redpower
L139[19:42:43] <Liizzii> i think
L140[19:42:57] <Liizzii> wow it's been a long time since then
L141[19:43:57] <Hawk777> Yes, Eloraam made RedPower; PR was its later recreation.
L142[20:03:25] <Saphire> Rawr
L143[20:03:32] <Saphire> And yeah
L144[20:03:54] <Saphire> Also weh, interacting with ComputerCraft and
L145[20:04:06] <Saphire> Keep grumbling >_>
L146[20:07:54] <Amanda> %choose re-computer to download cartoons?
L147[20:07:54] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Ohwouldyoulookatthetime! I suddenly need to be on the other side of the planet!
L148[20:30:54] <Saphire> Has anyone made a "fake OC in CC" thing yet >_>
L149[20:41:46] <Saphire> ...wonder how painful is it to port a mod
L150[20:42:03] <Mic​hiyo> That depends on the mod, and what exactly you're porting from / to
L151[20:43:13] <Liizzii> I too would like OC on 1.18/1.19, but i know the effort in just trying to get the tooling to support it updated to those versions will have me loose any motivation for minecraft
L152[20:43:15] <Saphire> May or may not be wondering "how bad would it be to get OC updated" but, lol, lmao
L153[20:43:50] <Saphire> Bonus point if Fabric/Quilt is considered :)
L154[20:43:56] <Saphire> Hah
L155[20:44:14] <Mic​hiyo> Well, multiple people have started it, and it's not done yet... sooo, seems like OC may be a pain :P
L156[20:44:35] <Saphire> Yeah, noticeable
L157[20:44:36] <Mic​hiyo> The main issue is Scala, you either have to re-write it in Java, or learn scala, and deal with the lack of Scala support in newer forge
L158[20:44:51] <Saphire> ...forge dropped scala?
L159[20:44:57] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah
L160[20:45:01] <Saphire> Oof
L161[20:45:23] <Mic​hiyo> in 1.15? 1.14? IDK something like that
L162[20:45:26] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/scorge
L163[20:45:36] * Saphire eyes fabric
L164[20:45:38] <Saphire> Hm
L165[20:46:11] <Mic​hiyo> I really dislike Fabric... for no reason other than the split that it made
L166[20:46:23] <Saphire> Yeeeeeah
L167[20:46:35] <Mic​hiyo> a fuck ton of the mods I want to use are Forge, but a handful of neat ones are Fabric... so I can't use them
L168[20:46:38] <Saphire> And then we have Quilt and, uh, yeah
L169[20:46:51] <Saphire> And feel that
L170[20:46:57] <Liizzii> we're back to the ModLoader, ModloaderMP and whatever other library is needed to run mods lol
L171[20:47:00] <Mic​hiyo> Like I get *WHY* Fabric exists... but I still dislike it.
L172[20:52:48] <Liizzii> bleh, trying to find something fun/meaningful to do but can't be arsed to do anything so just aimlessly starting youtube videos, watching for a few minutes then clicking off of them
L173[20:57:03] <Saphire> https://github.com/FabricMC/fabric-language-scala
L174[20:57:06] <Saphire> Very helpful...
L175[20:57:15] <Saphire> Just archived without a single note of what why or anything
L176[21:08:59] <Liizzii> fun
L177[21:25:31] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> @Michiyo, at least with NeoForge, a number of Fabric devs are looking into having official ports.
L178[21:25:59] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Including the CaffeineMC team (Sodium, Lithium, etc).
L179[21:26:36] <Mic​hiyo> That's neat, doesn't help me any though
L180[21:27:22] <Mic​hiyo> And yeah, I know how assholeish that sounds... But meh :P
L181[21:29:42] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Which mods were you looking at that were Fabric only?
L182[21:30:04] <Mic​hiyo> I've got no idea, it's been over a year since I built my pack
L183[21:30:11] <Mic​hiyo> I just remember running into it a lot
L184[21:30:55] <Saphire> BTW what's the NeoForge?
L185[21:31:06] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Basically Forge without LexManos
L186[21:31:07] <Mic​hiyo> Forge minus Lex
L187[21:31:08] <Amanda> Forge team forked sans lex
L188[21:31:27] <Liizzii> there's probably a GNU + linux joke to be made there
L189[21:31:32] <Amanda> Lex owns the copyright and all, but most of the forge team jumped to neoforge
L190[21:31:36] <Saphire> Ah
L191[21:31:38] <Saphire> Lmao
L192[21:31:56] <Saphire> Lex the "let's use adfly" circa like... 2018?
L193[21:32:08] <Saphire> (I forgot when they removed it so I am just wildly guessing)
L194[21:32:31] <Liizzii> i vaguely remember that horrible setup
L195[21:32:41] <Liizzii> think a lot of mods used it before curseforge came along
L196[21:33:07] <Liizzii> I don't like the way curseforge handles some bits, but it was better than adf.ly links everywhere
L197[21:33:15] <Saphire> ...yeah
L198[21:33:19] * Saphire shudder
L199[21:33:23] <Saphire> Adfly...
L200[21:48:28] <Liizzii> \o/ archzfs repo now has zfs 2.2 in it
L201[21:49:48] <Saphire> ...also why was it Scala?
L202[21:50:02] <Liizzii> probably a question for @Sangar
L203[21:50:21] <Liizzi​i-chan> @Michiyo mention broke
L204[21:50:43] <Michiyo> What?
L205[21:51:06] <Liizzi​i-chan> discord side my message just showed up as `probably a question for`
L206[21:51:33] <Michiyo> Huh, odd.
L207[21:51:54] <Sap​hire> Oh, checked the search, Izzy said it was "just to learn Scala" V:
L208[21:52:07] * Liizzii glares at dkms
L209[21:52:19] <Liizzii> why you not put the nvidia module in the lts kernel too?
L210[21:52:48] <Liizzii> oh, maybe it'll do it later
L211[21:53:58] <Liizzii> ah, there it goes
L212[21:54:25] <Liizzii> ok idk what order this thing is doing them in
L213[21:55:26] <Michiyo> @Sangar
L214[21:55:33] <Michiyo> Very strange.
L215[21:55:48] <Michiyo> I would have expected it to just... do nothing
L216[21:58:01] <Liizzi​i-chan> order go brr https://discordembeds.pc-logix.com/live/1697493481681.png
L217[22:00:58] <Saphire> <@107368676348416000>
L218[22:01:04] <Sap​hire> ...lmao what
L219[22:01:09] <Sap​hire> Neat
L220[22:09:15] <getItemF​romBlock> https://paste.pc-logix.com/liwobegahu
L221[22:09:19] * Saphire hums
L222[22:09:25] <Saphire> Mojang mappings or...?
L223[22:09:31] <getItemF​romBlock> Yeah
L224[22:09:35] <Saphire> Is there any particular difference these days
L225[22:09:47] <getItemF​romBlock> References to things like Blockstate, ect
L226[22:10:10] <getItemF​romBlock> There was a huge code refractor between 1.16 and 1.18 (we are based on the 1.16 port)
L227[22:10:28] <getItemF​romBlock> Almost all of the files have been at least moved around
L228[22:10:41] <Saphire> Isn't there a pretty huge one for 1.19.3+?
L229[22:10:54] <Saphire> Or well, enough to make many people complain
L230[22:11:20] <getItemF​romBlock> Not really, the changes are minor
L231[22:11:27] <getItemF​romBlock> Code wise
L232[22:11:33] <Saphire> Oh?
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L236[22:11:48] <Michiyo> Test
L237[22:11:55] <Mic​hiyo> Ok
L238[22:12:25] <getItemF​romBlock> Between 1.18 and 1.19
L239[22:12:25] <getItemF​romBlock> I have not looked into 1.20 that much, but from what I have seen this should not be too bad
L240[22:12:33] <Sap​hire> https://fabricmc.net/2022/11/24/1193.html
L241[22:12:34] <Sap​hire> Ah
L242[22:15:14] <getItemF​romBlock> Well less worse than the changes between 1.16 and 1.18 at least...
L243[22:15:56] <Sap​hire> Hah, I can imagine
L244[22:16:45] <Sap​hire> Bleh
L245[22:16:53] <Sap​hire> Wish vscode was supported more as a dev IDE
L246[22:17:53] <getItemF​romBlock> Yes, the lack of good scala plugin is really slowing me down for this project
L247[22:17:56] <getItemF​romBlock> https://github.com/getItemFromBlock/OpenComputers_1.18/commit/d11ac01869905001dd6ab89ab2529f9d27e6fe1b if you want to have a look at the biggest commit I have made for this project yet
L248[22:18:51] <getItemF​romBlock> This was when I started using semi automated code replacement
L249[22:19:07] <Kristo​pher38> iirc there are two scala plugins for vscode, one is shit while the other is supposedly better
L250[22:19:13] <Sap​hire> *hums*
L251[22:19:14] <Sap​hire> Is there any reason to use Yarn vs Mojang mappings?
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L253[22:19:50] <Kristo​pher38> t.friend works commercially on open source scala tooling
L254[22:20:25] <getItemF​romBlock> The problem is that none of them were able to find the Minecraft and Forge mappings correctly (also one of the two somehow managed to break y java plugin 😅 )
L255[22:29:27] <Sap​hire> Oh feel that
L256[22:30:14] <getItemF​romBlock> There is some, like Mojang mappings are more consistent between updates
L257[22:33:46] <getItemF​romBlock> But I am not really an expert on the domain, I think some people like Yarn because of its "true" open license
L258[23:06:43] <Izzy> Amanda: re: NIC weirdness, have you turned off hardware offload?
L259[23:09:40] <Liizzii> think she said she turned off TSO earlier on
L260[23:09:53] <Liizzii> (assuming you're reading through backlog)
L261[23:10:44] <Izzy> ahh yup
L262[23:11:19] <Izzy> it's mildly funny to me that we build all this fixed-function hardware to make our computers faster then turn it off and do it in software
L263[23:11:53] <Hawk777> Hopefully we only turn it off when it’s broken.
L264[23:12:02] <Hawk777> Or insufficient.
L265[23:23:17] <Liizzii> ffs brain
L266[23:23:54] <Liizzii> staying up and researching about yggdrasil network stuff instead of going to bed is not the right decision
L267[23:26:00] <Amanda> Izzy: that's because if it's fixed function, it can also be fixed-broken
L268[23:26:23] <Liizzii> fixed-nonfunction
L269[23:26:53] <Amanda> Hardware is hard, let's go shopping
L270[23:27:11] <Izzy> fixed-dysfunction
L271[23:27:19] <Liizzii> hardware hard and (sometimes) cold, tiddy soft and warm
L272[23:27:40] <Izzy> so I got a new switch
L273[23:27:45] <Izzy> a Brocade ICX6430
L274[23:27:50] * Amanda dispatches a clone to lay on lizzii's chest
L275[23:28:10] <Izzy> unlike the Catalyst 3750G, it remains cold to the touch under load
L276[23:28:15] * Liizzii offers pats to the clone
L277[23:28:22] <Izzy> very strange
L278[23:28:34] <Izzy> (the 3750G is too hot to touch normally)
L279[23:28:52] <Amanda> Izzy: is it just aggressively thermal throttling?
L280[23:29:02] <Izzy> no it's just efficient
L281[23:29:17] <Izzy> 36W peak power usage vs the 3750G's 100+W idle figure
L282[23:29:50] <Mic​hiyo> The Cisco Nexus 5596 wants to let you know... it doesn't get any better. :P
L283[23:30:08] <Izzy> it also doesn't have any L3 features or 10G ports so it's not quite doing as much
L284[23:30:19] <Izzy> but I never got around to getting 10Gb NICs so eh
L285[23:30:41] <Liizzii> yikes, 100W+ for a switch? my 5950X/5700XT PC idles at 120W lol
L286[23:31:05] <Izzy> the 3750G-24TS-S was Cisco's first 1/10Gb L3 switch
L287[23:31:07] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, this thing was also a ~19k switch when new
L288[23:31:22] <Izzy> it was hongry and ran so hot they had to make it 1.5RU to fit the heatsinks
L289[23:31:32] <Izzy> it was very cheap on ebay.
L290[23:31:53] <Liizzii> non-integer U height *vomits*
L291[23:32:27] <Izzy> yeah,,,
L292[23:32:45] <Hawk777> Better than non-integer rack *width*!
L293[23:32:54] <Izzy> mayb I should actually buy a rackmount case for the server
L294[23:33:00] <Izzy> the shelf is slowly bowing
L295[23:33:12] <Liizzii> fucking annoys me when contractors at work install stuff into the racks with a 1-hole gap between devices
L296[23:33:38] <Liizzii> the only time i allow it is if it's one of the fiber NTE boxes and the coil of fiber needs to sit on top
L297[23:39:19] <Liizzii> anyway, sleepy neko time
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