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L1[00:00:08] <Izzy> lunar_sam: what was that image format you like that's super simple
L2[00:02:51] <Amanda> %choose pew-pews or something else
L3[00:02:52] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Elementary dear Watson, "pew-pews" is the obvious choice!
L4[00:03:09] <ThePiGuy24> Izzy: QOI?
L5[00:03:15] <Amanda> Is it though?
L6[00:03:43] <Amanda> Maybe we should ask our fairy fren, Elfi: pew-pews?
L7[00:03:51] <Izzy> ThePiGuy24: no it was an old format
L8[00:04:06] <ThePiGuy24> i dunno then
L9[00:04:23] <Izzy> think it was TGA
L10[00:05:45] <ThePiGuy24> thats pretty much just BMP with a different header format, not really any easier or harder to implement, atleast for a basic implementation
L11[00:08:01] <Izzy> may have been TIFF also
L12[00:09:56] <ThePiGuy24> TIFF is simpler i think
L13[00:10:02] <ThePiGuy24> maybe, idk
L14[00:12:05] <Izzy> either way, there's space in the spec, time to implement LZ16-compressed bitmap images
L15[00:23:01] <ThePiGuy24> if you want an absolutely dead simple bitmap format, PBM/PGM/PPM/PNM/PAM/PFM (NetPBM) is a good bet, technically supports arbitrarily high resolutions, bit depths, and maybe channel count too ;p (besides PFM, which uses floats instead)
L16[00:33:35] * Amanda snuggles up around Elfi, decides on early zzzmews instead of pew-pews
L17[00:34:03] <Amanda> Night girls
L18[00:34:12] <Izzy> in other news I am currently updating the minitel programs.cfg to include the stuff required to try out rtfs
L19[00:34:29] <Izzy> so you don't have to install PsychOS to use it
L20[00:34:46] <Izzy> (and also, so you can install PsychOS to an rtfs volume from OpenOS)
L21[00:39:13] <Izzy> definitely going to need to implement a system for hot-loading partition table reader/writers though
L22[00:39:28] <Izzy> need to implement MBR, GPT, and APM at some point
L23[02:04:24] <TechT​astic> Know the name of the PNG viewing program? All im seeing is ctifview and that takes a custom format
L24[02:17:05] <Izzy> hm, looking at the list, I may have been wrong
L25[02:17:39] <ThePiGuy24> i do recall seeing something regarding oc/lua and png, but i guess i misremembered
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L27[02:41:05] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/c6ec.png boopu running on an OpenOS live floppy system
L28[02:42:54] <Izzy> would be interesting to see a generic bootloader for systems stored on rtfs
L29[02:45:16] <Izzy> (because the OpenOS init.lua certainly has no idea what to do with that sort of environment)
L30[02:50:08] <TechT​astic> ok so wget is getting a webpage's HTML instead of the actual content im trying to grab
L31[02:50:19] <Izzy> github?
L32[02:50:52] <TechT​astic> nah, weird web converter that spits out an image into a format that an ingame OC program can use
L33[02:51:01] <Izzy> ahhh
L34[02:51:26] <TechT​astic> btw, found that ctif person, this is their converter
L35[03:04:44] <TechT​astic> weird thing is gonig to the link it provides has my browser download the correct file, but using wget just grabs the webpage
L36[03:10:05] <ThePiGuy24> openos wget or linux wget?
L37[03:11:38] <TechT​astic> OpenOS
L38[03:12:03] <ThePiGuy24> could you send me a link to the convertor so i can investigate?
L39[03:13:36] <TechT​astic> the lin kto the converter or the image link?
L40[03:13:48] <ThePiGuy24> link to convertor
L41[03:13:54] <TechT​astic> https://cax.no/conv/index.html
L42[03:13:56] <ThePiGuy24> and an example of how you are invoking it
L43[03:14:35] <TechT​astic> drag-n-drop image in, press "Submit all Files", it generates the wget command to use
L44[03:15:17] <TechT​astic> you can also send height and width but it defaults to OC T3 screens so its fine for me
L45[03:16:10] <ThePiGuy24> seems to be working fine on my end
L46[03:16:24] <ThePiGuy24> what exactly are the contents of the html file it downloads?
L47[03:17:43] <TechT​astic> http://144.217.85.58:3000/saved_embeds/1696994263343.png
L48[03:20:27] <ThePiGuy24> odd
L49[03:20:37] <ThePiGuy24> and youre running the command exactly as its given?
L50[03:20:43] <TechT​astic> yep
L51[03:21:53] <ThePiGuy24> dont really know then
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L54[04:03:41] <Mic​hiyo> Maybe version issue? what version of OC are you on?
L55[04:26:26] <Va​ur> %tonk
L56[04:26:26] <MichiBot> Kapow! Va​ur! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of 1 hour, 27 minutes and 30 seconds (By 8 hours, 13 minutes and 33 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L57[04:26:28] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 9 hours, 41 minutes and 3 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.01646 (0.00823 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.05255385 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L58[05:24:33] <Va​ur> %sip
L59[05:24:33] <MichiBot> You drink a wonderful diamond potion (New!). Vaur gains knowledge about a random useless subject.
L60[06:44:30] <lunar_sam> Izzy: yeah it was TGA
L61[06:48:01] <Izzy> lunar_sam: got me thinking about encoding "images" as one byte for foreground and background and one unicode character again
L62[06:48:21] <lunar_sam> hey i did something like this
L63[06:48:50] <Izzy> it would work well to target T2 displays
L64[06:49:07] <lunar_sam> https://github.com/lunaboards-dev/oc-velox/blob/master/veloxrt/vix.lua
L65[06:49:33] <lunar_sam> though mine just worked with braile lol
L66[06:49:51] <lunar_sam> and internally just stored things as 2x4 blocks
L67[06:50:39] <Izzy> that is likely a more compact solution
L68[06:51:21] <Izzy> my thinking is that the "decoder" would just unpack it to a bunch of VT100 control codes
L69[06:53:05] <lunar_sam> i had a thing that converted specific TGAs to the format at some point
L70[06:53:28] <Izzy> another thing that would be Interesting is a pallete header
L71[07:01:58] <lunar_sam> https://github.com/lunaboards-dev/oc-velox/blob/master/utils/targa-to-vxi.lua
L72[07:02:00] <lunar_sam> found a thing
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L74[10:41:11] <Forec​aster> %sip
L75[10:41:11] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery naqahdah potion (New!). The bottle turns into an apple.
L76[11:00:03] * Amanda meows and looks around
L77[11:40:41] <AR2​000> pam and ppm. It's literally a string of pixels
L78[11:42:35] * Amanda checks on Elfi's sleepycling status, finds she's sleepyclinging to her left ear, makes sure not to flick it around too much
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L84[16:00:51] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L85[16:35:51] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L86[16:35:52] <MichiBot> Swell! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 9 hours, 41 minutes and 3 seconds (By 2 hours, 28 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L87[16:35:53] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points! plus 0.022 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.3228665, Position #3 Need 0.01855385 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L88[17:12:38] <Amanda> Since Izzy's asleep, figured I'd ask here instead. they have it so when you first connect to their server you get an antique atlas on spawn, I'd like to do something similar with a pre-loaded akashic tome in my 1.12 pack, anybody know how to do that?
L89[17:12:59] <Amanda> %oclogs
L90[17:12:59] <MichiBot> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/?dir=logs/%23oc
L91[17:13:30] <Amanda> Okay good, that bridged sanely. (There was a bunch of spaces in the front on my end )
L92[17:14:34] <TechT​astic> hey, whats the IRC server?
L93[17:14:51] <TechT​astic> like the IP/url
L94[17:16:34] <Amanda> irc.esper.net #oc
L95[17:16:40] <Amanda> port 6667
L96[17:19:47] <Mic​hiyo> Something link this most likely https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/custom-starter-gear
L97[17:20:25] <Michiyo> Oh, right, new bot doesn't do the quote stuff... Amanda ^
L98[17:21:22] <Amanda> oh nice
L99[17:23:02] <Amanda> danke, @Michiyo
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L102[17:29:27] <SWC_Imperial_City> test test test
L103[17:31:18] <SWC_Imperial_City> anybody around?
L104[17:31:22] <Amanda> Nope
L105[17:31:29] <SWC_Imperial_City> damn
L106[17:31:59] <Mic​hiyo> No one here but us chickens, cosmic enties, and sentient AIs
L107[17:32:14] <Mic​hiyo> entities god damn it
L108[17:32:20] <SWC_Imperial_City> btw, this is a public access computer, if anyone gets a bit degen, just boot us off
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L110[17:44:29] <Forec​aster> what about chicken AIs?
L111[17:46:51] <ThePiGuy24> make that cosmic chicken AIs
L112[17:48:39] <Mic​hiyo> Both of those fall under sentient AIs.
L113[17:49:48] <ThePiGuy24> chickens arent sentient; theyre tasty
L114[17:50:09] <Forec​aster> animals are sentient, people are sapient
L115[17:50:37] <SWC_Imperial_City> "Behold! A Man!"
L116[17:56:45] <Forec​aster> That wasn't on the list! Who let that in?!
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L118[18:13:18] <Amanda> Behold! HUmanity! - The Universe, probably
L119[18:20:55] <Forec​aster> I'm not sure it'd be that excited about it
L120[18:23:21] <Amanda> The more I use firefox on my tablet, the more tempted I am to just make my own browser, with blackjack, and scritchies
L121[18:28:53] <Forec​aster> you could just download a blackjack addon for firefox
L122[18:44:13] <Michiyo> Amanda, I get that reference :P
L123[18:51:18] <TechT​astic> So the wget didn't work BUT, I just made a repo for the converted images and used that instead of worked like a dream
L124[18:51:28] <TechT​astic> http://144.217.85.58:3000/saved_embeds/1697050287893.png
L125[18:52:37] <TechT​astic> I also made a small improvement to ctifview to account for displaying the image on multiple screens (that build is double-sided)
L126[19:13:43] <Amanda> %remindme 45m check ci
L127[19:13:43] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check ci" in 45m at 10/11/2023 07:58:43 PM
L128[19:15:21] <Forec​aster> %sip
L129[19:15:21] <MichiBot> You drink a frosty adamantium potion (New!). Tonk moved forward 2 hours. (Rem. uses: 2)
L130[19:27:28] <Amanda> Well that finished much faster than I was sexpecting
L131[19:27:33] <Amanda> brb I guess, going to update my matrix
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L134[19:58:43] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check ci
L135[20:00:05] <Amanda> Already done, MichiBot, danke though
L136[20:05:04] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?
L137[20:05:04] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Amanda's hair turns pink
L138[20:05:11] <Amanda> Hey!
L139[20:05:21] * Amanda dyes her fur back to black
L140[20:06:13] * Amanda snuggles up around Elfi, debates between metroid or irradiating
L141[20:47:16] <TechT​astic> %sip frosty adamantium
L142[20:47:16] <MichiBot> You drink a frosty adamantium potion. Tonk moved forward 3 hours. (Rem. uses: 1)
L143[20:47:23] <TechT​astic> %sip frosty adamantium
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L145[21:09:40] <Va​ur> %sip
L146[21:09:41] <MichiBot> You drink a timeless dilithium potion (New!). Vaur: Nothing seemed to happen...
L147[21:23:26] <stephan48> Izzy, Amanda, nadja: what tool did you recommend for dev setups on the deck? Some Docker based thingy. Hrm
L148[21:23:52] <Izzy> dunno they won't sell me one
L149[21:40:51] <stephan48> distrobox
L150[21:54:18] <Amanda> Meow meow I'm a meow
L151[21:54:50] <Amanda> %choose more noms?
L152[21:54:50] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Whatever you're thinking, don't.
L153[21:55:02] <Forec​aster> haha
L154[21:55:13] <Forec​aster> I mean, that's a shame
L155[21:55:15] <Amanda> I'm thinking I'm still hungry, so I'll don't and get more noms
L156[21:58:51] <Amanda> %choose farm or pew-pews
L157[21:58:52] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A nearby lamp whispers "farm" such that it's barely audible.
L158[22:33:31] <ThePiGuy24> Amanda: meow
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L163[23:22:37] <SWC-Imperial-City> %tonk
L164[23:22:37] <MichiBot> SWC-Impe​rial-City: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L165[23:22:47] <SWC-Imperial-City> lomao, so IRC can tonk
L166[23:31:45] <Mic​hiyo> MichiBot is an IRC bot... so yes
L167[23:32:06] <Mic​hiyo> Discord users can because MichiBot was specifically written to work with the bridge bot
L168[23:33:34] <SWC-Imperial-City> ah k
L169[23:34:07] <SWC-Imperial-City> ingame server staff is here, say hi
L170[23:34:27] <Mic​hiyo> Hello
L171[23:34:49] <TechT​astic> hi deadly
L172[23:47:59] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with mutable potion
L173[23:47:59] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable weather potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster turns into a lizard girl until they stop thinking about it.
L174[23:48:48] <Amanda> ! The lizard people who secretly control the world are real!?
L175[23:48:54] <Michiyo> THat sounds like a difficult thing to stop thinking about.
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