L1[00:03:39] <stephan48> Motivation
Paralysis?
L2[00:04:10] <Amanda> I'm sure it's the
foxens fault somehow
L3[00:05:07] <Amanda> stephan48: so I made
my ceph do something new! I set up radosgw so now I can get rid of
my minio container
L4[00:05:49] <stephan48> ui! i only played
with radosgw a bit on my k8s cluster, sadly the ceph operator could
only rudimentarily interact with it
L5[00:06:15] <stephan48> also i didn't
really find a great solution to backup ceph+radosgw :/
L6[00:06:30] <Amanda> Backups are still an
open question for me
L7[00:07:12] <Amanda> One I should really
answer, before I move even more into ceph
L8[00:07:41] <stephan48> i mean111!!!!
DevOps111!!! you can just rebuild from git can't you?
L9[00:07:47] <stephan48> sadly that seems to
be the prime answer
L10[00:07:47] <Amanda> Though most of my
vms are using ceph for the disk so it's a bit late for that
now
L11[00:08:28] <Amanda> You joke but I've
been doing my best to do all my stuff in ansible
L12[00:08:46] <stephan48> Benji is
something i wanted to look at and figure out how to integrate
L13[00:10:27] <Amanda> Benji?
L14[00:18:05] <stephan48> https://benji-backup.me/
L15[00:21:08] <Amanda> Oh,
interesting
L16[00:21:22] <Amanda> %remindme 12h
https://benji-backup.me/
L17[00:21:23] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"https://benji-backup.me/" in 12h at 09/16/2023
12:21:23 PM
L18[00:22:44] <Amanda> Will give it a look
tomorrow
L19[00:50:07] <Amanda> Now, zzzmews as I'm
suddenly burdened with tireds
L20[00:50:11] <Amanda> Night girls
L21[00:51:03] 
<Michiyo>
night
<Michiyo>
nightL22[03:14:21] ⇨
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L23[03:50:16] <walksanator> @techtastic what did i
miss?
<walksanator> @techtastic what did i
miss?L24[04:08:26] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL25[04:08:27] <MichiBot> You drink a runny
currentcorn potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a lizard until
they see a unicorn.
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L29[06:39:07] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L30[06:43:53] <nadja> Amanda, stephan48: On
the danger of droning on about it, Bareos is pretty good for
backups of servers. A bit of setup overhead, but not *that* much
^^
L31[06:44:19] <nadja> Also, schana towa to
those that celebrate :)
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L33[07:21:07] <Makar> всем привет
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L35[08:51:09] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL36[08:51:10] <MichiBot> You drink a shaky
violium potion (New!). Vaur grows slightly until they exit the
room.
L37[10:12:02] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL38[10:12:02] <MichiBot> You drink an awful
emerald potion (New!). The next remote Vaur looks for is extra hard
to find.
L39[11:37:46] *
Amanda meows and looks around
L40[11:41:25] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL41[11:41:26] <MichiBot> You drink a tiny
mithril potion (New!). Vaur feels slightly weaker.
L42[11:41:46] <Amanda> %fling @Vaur
L43[11:41:46] <MichiBot> Amanda is
flinging something at @Vaur! They have 5 minutes if they want to
attempt to %defend against it!
L44[11:41:47] *
MichiBot Michael gove miscalculated and teleported into
space.
L45[11:41:58] <Vaur>
%defend
<Vaur>
%defendL46[11:41:59] <MichiBot> Vaur: Invalid
arguments. %defend Action:string [Item:string]
L47[11:42:05] <MichiBot> Amanda flings
michael gove in a random direction. It hits @Vaur right where the
last item hit. They take 1d4 => 2 damage!
L48[11:42:06] <Vaur>
%defend fling
<Vaur>
%defend flingL49[11:42:06] <MichiBot> Specify an action
as the first parameter: block, guard, deflect, parry, counterspell,
dodge
L50[11:42:13] <Vaur>
%defend guard
<Vaur>
%defend guardL51[11:42:14] <MichiBot> Vaur: Nothing to
defend against right now.
L52[11:42:48] <Vaur>
>MichiBot: Amanda flings michael gove in a random direction. It
hits <@!142471974…
<Vaur>
>MichiBot: Amanda flings michael gove in a random direction. It
hits <@!142471974…L53[11:42:48] <Vaur>
that's not 5 minutes
<Vaur>
that's not 5 minutesL54[11:42:58] <Amanda> Nope!
L55[11:43:08] <Amanda> %blame
@Forecaster
L56[11:43:08] *
MichiBot blames @Forecaster for the next person getting
bap'd
L58[11:43:44] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL59[11:43:45] <MichiBot> Crud! Vaur! You
beat your own previous record of 12 hours and 30 seconds (By 2
minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L60[11:43:46] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points! plus 0.022
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.26271861,
Position #1
L61[11:44:08] <Vaur>
0.034 points is quite the amont 😄
<Vaur>
0.034 points is quite the amont 😄L62[11:51:35] <techtastic> >techtastic: Hey, so
remember when I was going off about the supposed security
vulnerabili…
<techtastic> >techtastic: Hey, so
remember when I was going off about the supposed security
vulnerabili…L63[11:51:35] <techtastic> @walksanator
<techtastic> @walksanatorL64[12:08:08] <Amanda> Ne, ne nadja did you
hear the good mews?
L65[12:10:57] <stefthedev> how do i make it show all
components https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152577363113164861/image.png
<stefthedev> how do i make it show all
components https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152577363113164861/image.pngL66[12:11:08] *
Amanda meows at the resonent frequency of all the world's woes,
causing them to shatter in a 30m radius
L67[12:14:21] <redstoneparkour> Azure: run `components`
in the shell (not the lua interpreter)
<redstoneparkour> Azure: run `components`
in the shell (not the lua interpreter)L68[12:15:53] <nadja> Amanda: Hmm, probably
not?
L69[12:16:23] <Amanda> nadja: I can meow at
the reasonent freuquency at all the world's woes, as above!
L70[12:16:56] <nadja> Can you at least make
them explode then? :P
L71[12:17:35] <Amanda> What, that's not a
good enough mew for you? :P
L72[12:21:23] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
https://benji-backup.me/
L73[12:23:59] <Forecaster> the timer for the defend
thing uses the same system as the reminders
<Forecaster> the timer for the defend
thing uses the same system as the remindersL74[12:24:06] <Forecaster> I have no idea why it doesn't
work correctly
<Forecaster> I have no idea why it doesn't
work correctlyL75[12:24:28] <Forecaster> probably because I did
something wrong, but I don't know what
<Forecaster> probably because I did
something wrong, but I don't know whatL76[12:24:39] <Amanda> Clearly it's the
foxen interfeering
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L79[13:37:34] <Amanda> %choose comfort or
utility or destroy all hoomans
L80[13:37:34] <MichiBot> Amanda: A faraway
lamp replies something inaudible.
L81[13:37:44] <Amanda> I agree, random
lamp, comfort
L82[14:10:22] <Amanda> Oh, Izzy gave me
merge powers on OC-Minitel on github?
L83[14:13:49] <Amanda> Time to go mad with
power and rewrite everytjing in something that transpiles to
lua!
L84[14:37:38] <S3>
Ahahaha
<S3>
AhahahaL85[14:37:54] <S3>
Minitel is still maintained? Minitel was pretty cool last I looked
at it
<S3>
Minitel is still maintained? Minitel was pretty cool last I looked
at itL86[14:38:07] <Vaur>
%sip*
<Vaur>
%sip*L87[14:38:09] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL88[14:38:09] <MichiBot> You drink a
spooned strawberry potion (New!). Vaur has a single tear roll down
their cheek for some reason.
L89[14:38:15] <S3> Super
modular
<S3> Super
modularL90[14:39:29] <S3> I
always envy the shit Izzy writes because its always cool stuff,
andi never have the time to work on such projects
<S3> I
always envy the shit Izzy writes because its always cool stuff,
andi never have the time to work on such projectsL91[14:39:51] <Amanda> @S3 I mean, I still
use it whenever I play
L92[14:40:10] <Amanda> and izzy does as
well
L93[14:40:18] <Amanda> so it's getting some
work done still
L94[14:40:40] <S3> I wish
I could get mc running beyonf 1.12... what are you currently
using?
<S3> I wish
I could get mc running beyonf 1.12... what are you currently
using?L95[14:40:47] <S3>
Beyond*
<S3>
Beyond*L96[14:41:17] <Amanda> I've not played 1.12
much lately, been playing ATM9 which is a 1.20.1 pack
L97[14:42:16] <S3>
There's like some drastic bug going on with GLFW and Nvidia and I
have yet to point it because openjdk is not causing a core dump to
be written for me even with ulimits
<S3>
There's like some drastic bug going on with GLFW and Nvidia and I
have yet to point it because openjdk is not causing a core dump to
be written for me even with ulimitsL98[14:43:01] <S3> But
I'm also running Linux 6.x too
<S3> But
I'm also running Linux 6.x tooL99[14:45:35] *
Amanda realigns Elfi with the astral plane, curls up around her to
protecc
L100[14:48:34] <Amanda> %choose cubes or
space
L101[14:48:35] <MichiBot> Amanda:
Elementary dear Watson, "cubes" is the obvious
choice!
L102[14:49:19] <Amanda> Maybe too obvious,
and don't call me Elementary
L103[14:53:51] <S3> Whee
I'm having fun
<S3> Whee
I'm having funL104[14:53:56] <S3>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152618376145944626/Screenshot_20230916-105129.png
<S3>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152618376145944626/Screenshot_20230916-105129.pngL105[14:54:48] <S3>
Amanda: the obvious answer is space cubes
<S3>
Amanda: the obvious answer is space cubesL106[14:55:13] <Amanda> ATM9 _does_ have
ad astra in it
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L109[15:56:35] <Ocawesome101> %tonk
<Ocawesome101> %tonkL110[15:56:36] <MichiBot> Boom!
Ocawesome101! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 4
hours, 12 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L111[15:56:37] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101's
new record is 4 hours, 12 minutes and 50 seconds! Ocawesome101 also
gained 0.00421 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need
0.06482043 more points to pass Forecaster!
L112[15:56:44] <Ocawesome101> %sip
<Ocawesome101> %sipL113[15:56:44] <MichiBot> You drink a
fluffy tuna potion (New!). After drinking the potion Ocawesome101
notices a label that says "Side effects may include giggle
fits and excessive monologuing."
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L115[16:14:16] <pingas> Computer
L116[16:14:38] <Michiyo>
No, no computers here
<Michiyo>
No, no computers hereL117[16:21:28] ⇦
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L118[16:21:39] <Forecaster> I may have smuggled
some
<Forecaster> I may have smuggled
someL119[17:33:42] <walksanator> >techtastic:
<@596098777941540883>
<walksanator> >techtastic:
<@596098777941540883>L120[17:33:42] <walksanator> The zero-day mentioned was
bleeding pipe right? (Or was this smth else)
<walksanator> The zero-day mentioned was
bleeding pipe right? (Or was this smth else)L121[17:33:43] <walksanator> Because if it was BP a small
patch would probally fix it
<walksanator> Because if it was BP a small
patch would probally fix itL122[17:34:28] <walksanator> Because it appears they are
getting pissy about the debug card being abusable or smth
<walksanator> Because it appears they are
getting pissy about the debug card being abusable or smthL123[17:34:35] <walksanator> When it is a creative only
item
<walksanator> When it is a creative only
itemL124[17:37:30] <techtastic> >walksanator: The zero-day
mentioned was bleeding pipe right? (Or was this smth else)
<techtastic> >walksanator: The zero-day
mentioned was bleeding pipe right? (Or was this smth else)L125[17:37:30] <techtastic> Becau…
<techtastic> Becau…L126[17:37:30] <techtastic> likely similar, its a packet
injection exploit that lets you spawn any item, and as such, the
debug item
<techtastic> likely similar, its a packet
injection exploit that lets you spawn any item, and as such, the
debug itemL127[17:38:05] <techtastic> so there solution? ban the
internet card, like that prevents anything
<techtastic> so there solution? ban the
internet card, like that prevents anythingL128[17:38:24] <walksanator> Flawless logic
<walksanator> Flawless logicL129[17:38:27] <walksanator> Clearly
<walksanator> ClearlyL130[17:38:36] <walksanator> Also I noticed you mentioned
starears pack
<walksanator> Also I noticed you mentioned
starears packL131[17:39:39] <walksanator> For 1.20 fabric to replicate
starwars there is a fan made mod that adds alot of starwars content
(fabric/quilt) so then you just need a spaceship mod (finish
valkyrien drive) and a computer mod (CC: T)
<walksanator> For 1.20 fabric to replicate
starwars there is a fan made mod that adds alot of starwars content
(fabric/quilt) so then you just need a spaceship mod (finish
valkyrien drive) and a computer mod (CC: T)L132[17:48:10] <redstoneparkour> TechTastic: give up on
trying to get the admins to enable internet cards, and instead use
pasting to transfer what you need
<redstoneparkour> TechTastic: give up on
trying to get the admins to enable internet cards, and instead use
pasting to transfer what you needL133[17:53:17] <walksanator> does OC have drag and drop
imports?
<walksanator> does OC have drag and drop
imports?L134[17:53:46] <redstoneparkour> no, thats a CC:T
thing
<redstoneparkour> no, thats a CC:T
thingL135[17:57:54] <walksanator> ah pasting as in ctrl+v it
into the game
<walksanator> ah pasting as in ctrl+v it
into the gameL136[17:58:25] <SquidDev> Yeah, it's only
possible on recent versions of LWJGL, so I think MC 1.15 or
1.16.
L137[17:59:11] <redstoneparkour> yes, except the keybind
is shift-insert or middle mouse button
<redstoneparkour> yes, except the keybind
is shift-insert or middle mouse buttonL138[18:03:49] <techtastic> >redstoneparkour:
TechTastic: give up on trying to get the admins to enable internet
cards, and…
<techtastic> >redstoneparkour:
TechTastic: give up on trying to get the admins to enable internet
cards, and…L139[18:03:50] <techtastic> ik, and i have, tho they keep
re-engaging to say the exploit is ineeded OCs
<techtastic> ik, and i have, tho they keep
re-engaging to say the exploit is ineeded OCsL140[18:05:32] <walksanator> >techtastic: ik, and i
have, tho they keep re-engaging to say the exploit is indeed
OCs
<walksanator> >techtastic: ik, and i
have, tho they keep re-engaging to say the exploit is indeed
OCsL141[18:05:32] <walksanator> ~~find a real exploit and
exploit it to give other peoples creative items directly into their
storage~~
<walksanator> ~~find a real exploit and
exploit it to give other peoples creative items directly into their
storage~~L142[18:05:36] <techtastic> or insisting on OCs
involvement
<techtastic> or insisting on OCs
involvementL143[18:05:49] <walksanator> right you mentioned
1.7
<walksanator> right you mentioned
1.7L144[18:06:01] <walksanator> and you allready confirmed
`bleeding pipe` or whatever doesen't apply
<walksanator> and you allready confirmed
`bleeding pipe` or whatever doesen't applyL145[18:06:02] <techtastic> >walksanator: ~~find a
real exploit and exploit it to give other peoples creative items
dir…
<techtastic> >walksanator: ~~find a
real exploit and exploit it to give other peoples creative items
dir…L146[18:06:02] <techtastic> thats the exploit they
mean
<techtastic> thats the exploit they
meanL147[18:06:19] <walksanator> i know i said find a *real*
exploit
<walksanator> i know i said find a *real*
exploitL148[18:06:38] <techtastic> specifically referencing a PR
to remove the Debug Card because the exploit exists so you can get
Debug Card, like its OC's issue
<techtastic> specifically referencing a PR
to remove the Debug Card because the exploit exists so you can get
Debug Card, like its OC's issueL149[18:08:35] <walksanator> if it was such a issue why
didn't they download OC locally, apply the PR, and then just use
that build on the server and distribute it
<walksanator> if it was such a issue why
didn't they download OC locally, apply the PR, and then just use
that build on the server and distribute itL150[18:09:59] <S3> Seems
about right
<S3> Seems
about rightL151[18:10:04] <S3>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152667736443465739/Screenshot_20230916-140904.png
<S3>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152667736443465739/Screenshot_20230916-140904.pngL152[18:10:07] <S3> Just
lost power right now
<S3> Just
lost power right nowL153[18:10:16] <S3>
Internet is on ups
<S3>
Internet is on upsL154[18:10:50] <techtastic> >walksanator: if it was
such a issue why didn't they download OC locally, apply the PR,
and…
<techtastic> >walksanator: if it was
such a issue why didn't they download OC locally, apply the PR,
and…L155[18:10:50] <techtastic> none of the staff are devs,
they arent even on latest OC
<techtastic> none of the staff are devs,
they arent even on latest OCL156[18:11:27] <walksanator> latest OC for that MC
version or latest OC version in general
<walksanator> latest OC for that MC
version or latest OC version in generalL157[18:14:02] <S3>
>walksanator: ~~find a real exploit and exploit it to give other
peoples creative i…
<S3>
>walksanator: ~~find a real exploit and exploit it to give other
peoples creative i…L158[18:14:02] <S3> You're
worried about people cheating in a game about creativity?
<S3> You're
worried about people cheating in a game about creativity?L159[18:14:28] <S3> Let
the bastards have fun I day
<S3> Let
the bastards have fun I dayL160[18:14:47] <S3>
Minecraft is a game about breaking shit
<S3>
Minecraft is a game about breaking shitL161[18:15:22] <S3> If
your co-players aren't breaking shit it's not fun
<S3> If
your co-players aren't breaking shit it's not funL162[18:20:50] <techtastic> >walksanator: latest OC
for that MC version or latest OC version in general
<techtastic> >walksanator: latest OC
for that MC version or latest OC version in generalL163[18:20:50] <techtastic> for their version, but in any
case, they have now motivated me out of spite ot work on Universal
so i can make my own space-faring server in modern times
<techtastic> for their version, but in any
case, they have now motivated me out of spite ot work on Universal
so i can make my own space-faring server in modern timesL164[18:21:23] <walksanator> spite is a great
motivator
<walksanator> spite is a great
motivatorL165[18:22:06] <walksanator> did you know that the
automatic routing of telephone calls was invented out of
spite
<walksanator> did you know that the
automatic routing of telephone calls was invented out of
spiteL166[18:23:12] <S3> Here
it was done because the scalability of magneto switching wasn't
keeping up in larger cities
<S3> Here
it was done because the scalability of magneto switching wasn't
keeping up in larger citiesL167[18:23:46] <S3> Plus
the I versatility of multiple calls in a party line at the same
time
<S3> Plus
the I versatility of multiple calls in a party line at the same
timeL168[18:24:22] <walksanator> iirc the story goes
<walksanator> iirc the story goesL169[18:24:22] <walksanator> Mortuary A and B
<walksanator> Mortuary A and BL170[18:24:23] <walksanator> people call for Mortuary A,
Mortuary B's wife redirects them to Mortuary B, Mortuary A invents
automatic routing destroying the workforce :>
<walksanator> people call for Mortuary A,
Mortuary B's wife redirects them to Mortuary B, Mortuary A invents
automatic routing destroying the workforce :>L171[18:24:28] <walksanator> this is a hyper tl;dr
<walksanator> this is a hyper tl;drL172[18:24:29] <S3> It may
have been out of spite, but real reasons were behind it
<S3> It may
have been out of spite, but real reasons were behind itL173[18:25:31] <S3> I've
actually stood in operating isles of at&t crossbar systems
before
<S3> I've
actually stood in operating isles of at&t crossbar systems
beforeL174[18:26:09] <S3>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152671783460282469/image0.jpg
<S3>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152671783460282469/image0.jpgL175[18:26:58] <S3> I it
takes like 15,000 wires to make one phone call, but those 15,000
wires can support thousands of phone calls at the same time
<S3> I it
takes like 15,000 wires to make one phone call, but those 15,000
wires can support thousands of phone calls at the same timeL176[18:27:43] <S3> And
while they used relays to hold state, they used electric current
sensing to establish telephone number addressing to line
equipment
<S3> And
while they used relays to hold state, they used electric current
sensing to establish telephone number addressing to line
equipmentL177[18:30:18] <S3> Using
electromagnetics *
<S3> Using
electromagnetics *L178[18:32:29] <techtastic> @walksanator it has begun
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152673378491183274/image.png
<techtastic> @walksanator it has begun
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152673378491183274/image.pngL179[18:36:13] <walksanator> Question: simply starting
support?
<walksanator> Question: simply starting
support?L180[18:38:55]
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L186[20:16:41] <nadja> Amanda: No it's
totally enough, I just hoped you'd use your powers for the good of
humankind once :P
L187[20:16:57] <Amanda> rude!
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L191[20:23:06] <nadja> Amanda: What me?
Rude? Never :O
L192[20:23:38] <Forecaster> Being rude is illegal, nobody
would do that
<Forecaster> Being rude is illegal, nobody
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L194[20:32:49] <nadja> Exactly!
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L197[21:08:12] <stephan48> wb nadja
L198[21:08:32] <nadja> I mean I wasn't
really gone but hiiiii ^.^
L199[21:09:31] <walksanator> alas removing scsi
support
<walksanator> alas removing scsi
supportL200[21:09:38] <walksanator> the image is now less then
8mb total
<walksanator> the image is now less then
8mb totalL201[21:09:40] <walksanator> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152712933290295347/image.png
<walksanator> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152712933290295347/image.pngL202[21:09:41] <stephan48> thanks for
hinting to Bareos, still something seeking a solution to
replace/merge backuppc & borgbackup
L203[21:09:50] <nadja> stephan48: anyway,
how have you been the last while? ^^
L204[21:10:32] <stephan48> as always,
annoyed at work. being amazed that we are shifted between
departments again. trying to fight DDoSes on gameserver and
generally messing with K8s and stuffs. normal boring self ;)
L205[21:10:36] <Michiyo>
>walksanator:
<Michiyo>
>walksanator:L206[21:10:36] <stephan48> and you?
L207[21:10:36] <Michiyo>
That image shouldn't be anywhere near 8mb. :P
<Michiyo>
That image shouldn't be anywhere near 8mb. :PL208[21:11:44] <nadja> Pretty busy with
work and all that. Had time for the first time in a *long* while to
actually celebrate a few holidays ^^
L209[21:12:02] <stephan48> nadja: bareos
smeels like bacula?
L210[21:12:15] <nadja> stephan48: it's a
fork, yes.
L211[21:12:18] <stephan48> ahhhh
L212[21:12:38] <stephan48> oh it even says
that two paragraphs above
L213[21:13:46] <nadja> Also CCCamp
happened again so yeah, that took some energy ^^'
L214[21:14:01] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL215[21:14:01] <MichiBot> Yow!
Forecaster! You beat Ocawesome101's previous record of 4 hours,
12 minutes and 50 seconds (By 1 hour, 4 minutes and 34 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L216[21:14:02] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 5 hours, 17 minutes and 25 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.0054 (0.00108 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #2. Need 0.05240037 more points to pass Vaur!
L217[21:17:25] <stephan48> one thing i
disliked about bacula is the arcane CLI and missing webui for quick
and easy showing. bareos has a webui atleast. still trying to
figure out how deduplication worked on bacula
L218[21:19:54] <nadja> Dedup is not all
that advanced on bareos, but you can make it happen using base
images. Works well enough for a fleet of Debian VMs if hard drives
slots are not your limiting factor :P
L219[21:24:39] <stephan48> i kind of wand
BackupPCs management & scheduling and borgbackup as driving
tool. Sadly i have enough projects on the plate to not add another
half assed one.
L220[21:24:57] <stephan48> sadly i am. but
then i should just cough up the money for > 8TB disks.
L221[21:27:51] <nadja> stephan48: Hmm,
have you looked at borgmatic?
L222[21:29:19] <stephan48> yes i am using
that on the critical hosts, for the VM hosts i use a crappy wrapper
around borgbackup directly - to sanitize paths, create/teardown
snapshots and remove swapdisks from backups.
L223[21:31:02] <nadja> By laptop backup is
just borgbackup on an NFS mount on our main backup server. Works
quite well and is setup overhead of no
L224[21:31:11] <nadja> *my
L225[21:32:58] <stephan48> heh tried that
in my current company, the answer was "uhh client backups?
onedrive please" "oh do we have an allowed onedrive
client for linux?" "uhhhh nope" "and now?"
"uhhhh"
L226[21:33:59] <nadja> I like being able
to just go "There's the NFS share, you can figure it out
yourself" but then again, this is not work :P
L227[21:34:14] <stephan48> :P
L228[21:41:07] <walksanator> i got the virtio console
working
<walksanator> i got the virtio console
workingL229[21:41:19] <walksanator> now you can read periphs
from /dev/hvc0
<walksanator> now you can read periphs
from /dev/hvc0L230[21:42:44] <Izzy> S3: Minecraft has
been working just fine for me with 6.4.x kernels... but I've
switched over to AMD GPUs :p
L231[21:46:02] <walksanator> did you hear my bad mod that
i am working on
<walksanator> did you hear my bad mod that
i am working onL232[21:46:11] <walksanator> it is another vm computer
mod like oc2 or vmcomputers
<walksanator> it is another vm computer
mod like oc2 or vmcomputersL233[21:46:26] <walksanator> but I chose to make it
*bad*
<walksanator> but I chose to make it
*bad*L234[21:46:33] <walksanator> by depending on qemu instead
of a custom java vm
<walksanator> by depending on qemu instead
of a custom java vmL235[21:46:39] <walksanator> or virtual box
<walksanator> or virtual boxL236[21:46:49] <Izzy> what arch?
L237[21:47:24] <walksanator> riscv64
<walksanator> riscv64L238[21:47:27] <walksanator> so oc2
<walksanator> so oc2L239[21:47:33] <walksanator> but it uses qemu instead of
sedna
<walksanator> but it uses qemu instead of
sednaL240[21:47:48] <walksanator> native vm vs java-based
vm
<walksanator> native vm vs java-based
vmL241[21:48:38] <walksanator> the only thing i have left
is ... all the MC mod
<walksanator> the only thing i have left
is ... all the MC modL242[21:48:51] <Izzy> so one could run the
server on an rv64 host for hardware virt? :D
L243[21:49:04] <walksanator> i mean... mabey
<walksanator> i mean... mabeyL244[21:49:59] <walksanator> but wouldn't that just be
`docker`
<walksanator> but wouldn't that just be
`docker`L245[21:50:09] <walksanator> *although* a docker computer
mod sounds interesting
<walksanator> *although* a docker computer
mod sounds interestingL246[21:50:19] <CompanionCube> docker is
containers
L247[21:51:02] <CompanionCube> which is
probably more breakout-able than whatever userspace sandbox
L248[21:51:02] <walksanator> ~~both serve the nearly same
purpose~~
<walksanator> ~~both serve the nearly same
purpose~~L249[21:51:09] <CompanionCube> all that
kernel attack surface
L250[21:51:21] <walksanator> i mean qemu you can write a
custom programm
<walksanator> i mean qemu you can write a
custom programmL251[21:51:29] <walksanator> and *literally* load it into
as the bootloader
<walksanator> and *literally* load it into
as the bootloaderL252[21:51:50] <walksanator> then again
<walksanator> then againL253[21:51:56] <walksanator> a vcpu is alot harder to
escape from
<walksanator> a vcpu is alot harder to
escape fromL254[21:52:08] <walksanator> idk how to enable hardware
virt for qemu though
<walksanator> idk how to enable hardware
virt for qemu thoughL255[21:52:29] <Izzy> you usually need to
be on the same platform as the one you're virtualising and have a
CPU that supports it
L256[21:52:43] <CompanionCube> the problem
is the venn diagram of 'riscv64 with hw virt' and 'fast enough to
run minecraft' is two different circles
L257[21:53:04] <Izzy> though there are
weird cases like some POWER chips supporting x86 virt
acceleration
L258[21:53:09] <Izzy> IIRC
L259[21:53:17] <CompanionCube> is that
really a thing
L260[21:53:40] <Izzy> I could swear there
was *some* x86 acceleration
L261[21:53:46] <walksanator> because how peripherals will
work is you when you start you have a `load()` function which
returns a `Pair<List<String>,Thread>`
<walksanator> because how peripherals will
work is you when you start you have a `load()` function which
returns a `Pair<List<String>,Thread>`L262[21:53:47] <walksanator> the `List<String>` is
cli arguments to pass to qemu
<walksanator> the `List<String>` is
cli arguments to pass to qemuL263[21:53:47] <walksanator> the `Thread` is a thread to
run for interacting either via peripheral or other stuff like
background task
<walksanator> the `Thread` is a thread to
run for interacting either via peripheral or other stuff like
background taskL264[21:53:50] <Izzy> but maybe they were
just emulating it really fast iunno
L265[21:53:56] <walksanator> also my cpu+kernel supports
kvm
<walksanator> also my cpu+kernel supports
kvmL266[21:54:05] <walksanator> i should probally enable
that right?
<walksanator> i should probally enable
that right?L267[21:54:20] <walksanator> or is kvm the hardware
virt
<walksanator> or is kvm the hardware
virtL268[21:54:29] <CompanionCube> kvm is the
hypervisor for hw virt
L269[21:54:55] <walksanator> so should i still enable kvm
for the riscv or no (because thats not how it works)
<walksanator> so should i still enable kvm
for the riscv or no (because thats not how it works)L270[21:55:51] <CompanionCube> kvm
wouldn't really help all that much unless you're doing virt inside
the riscv
L271[21:56:02] <walksanator> yeah no i am running on
x86_64
<walksanator> yeah no i am running on
x86_64L272[21:57:11] <CompanionCube> you could
do networked virt but would latencu be good?
L273[21:57:20] <walksanator> networked virt?
<walksanator> networked virt?L274[21:57:24] <walksanator> idk
<walksanator> idkL275[21:57:28] <Amanda> I hope you're not
just passing those arguments directly to qemu. There's arguments to
mount stuff from the host
L276[21:57:52] <walksanator> here is my qemu
command
<walksanator> here is my qemu
commandL278[21:57:58] <Amanda> so if the image or
your guest support virtio 9p you've got an exfiltration
L279[21:58:14] <walksanator> i disabled kernel 9p
support
<walksanator> i disabled kernel 9p
supportL280[21:58:29] <walksanator> *although* you could compile
your own kernel...
<walksanator> *although* you could compile
your own kernel...L281[21:58:50] <walksanator> but no the *peripherals* add
qemu args
<walksanator> but no the *peripherals* add
qemu argsL282[21:58:54] <walksanator> not the user
<walksanator> not the userL283[21:59:30] <walksanator> Message contained 4 or more
newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/folovozezo
<walksanator> Message contained 4 or more
newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/folovozezoL284[21:59:30] <walksanator> from what i can tell this
does 3 things (aside from setting bios and kernel images)
<walksanator> from what i can tell this
does 3 things (aside from setting bios and kernel images)L285[22:01:12] <walksanator> Message contained 4 or more
newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ivigixapiy
<walksanator> Message contained 4 or more
newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ivigixapiyL286[22:01:41] <nadja> Amanda: Let the
kids do the learning in their tempo. Also, exploits in minecraft
mods have a long and faceted history, it's very much tradition at
this point :P
L287[22:01:54] <Amanda> nadja: fair
L288[22:02:03] <walksanator> yeah but a exploit in *this*
could be on the level of that other oc addon
<walksanator> yeah but a exploit in *this*
could be on the level of that other oc addonL289[22:02:20] <walksanator> (the one that allowed you to
send *arbitrary keypresses to other clients*...)
<walksanator> (the one that allowed you to
send *arbitrary keypresses to other clients*...)L290[22:02:28] <walksanator> and no it was no limited to
ingame
<walksanator> and no it was no limited to
ingameL291[22:02:33] <walksanator> you could open up command
prompt
<walksanator> you could open up command
promptL292[22:02:36] <walksanator> and run commands
<walksanator> and run commandsL293[22:04:58] <Izzy> CompanionCube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpyGsFGXSxk
L294[22:05:49] <CompanionCube> Izzy:
related to POWER and x86: https://www.itjungle.com/2023/08/21/say-sayonara-to-the-ibm-i-integrated-server/
L295[22:06:11] <walksanator> although somehow the `tab`
key stopped working
<walksanator> although somehow the `tab`
key stopped workingL296[22:06:21] <walksanator> (when redirecting over a
socket)
<walksanator> (when redirecting over a
socket)L297[22:06:33] <walksanator> (serial)
<walksanator> (serial)L298[22:08:50] <CompanionCube> well tab is
just an ASCII character, so...
L299[22:08:51] <walksanator> now some may ask "why
did you redirect it over a socket instead of reading/writing
process stdio"
<walksanator> now some may ask "why
did you redirect it over a socket instead of reading/writing
process stdio"L300[22:09:13] <walksanator> well... java sucks and
reading is a blocking operation, there is no "try
read"
<walksanator> well... java sucks and
reading is a blocking operation, there is no "try
read"L301[22:10:02] <walksanator> CompanionCube: but what is
the shell looking for? the ascii char or what?
<walksanator> CompanionCube: but what is
the shell looking for? the ascii char or what?L302[22:10:56] <CompanionCube> hm, java
has non-blocking io stuff, maybe you can make it work for
stdio?
L303[22:11:04] <walksanator> i allready checked
<walksanator> i allready checkedL304[22:11:12] <walksanator> there is no `nio` version of
reading from a process
<walksanator> there is no `nio` version of
reading from a processL305[22:11:22] <walksanator> hence why i am forcing qemu
to use unix sockets
<walksanator> hence why i am forcing qemu
to use unix socketsL306[22:11:27] <CompanionCube> ah,
alas
L307[22:11:44] <Izzy> I like that in Lua
if you want to do really cursed stuff with stdin/stdout you can use
luasocket to wrap it and pretend it's a network socket for async
operations
L308[22:11:59] <Izzy> money shot: https://shadowkat.net/tmp/2f98.jpg
L309[22:12:09] <walksanator> you know whaat lua libries i
included in the base linux?
<walksanator> you know whaat lua libries i
included in the base linux?L310[22:12:20] <CompanionCube> yay
beos
L311[22:12:45] <walksanator>
luafilesystem,luasocket,luaposix,lua-cjson,luabit32
<walksanator>
luafilesystem,luasocket,luaposix,lua-cjson,luabit32L312[22:13:02] <walksanator> oh yeah and using lua
5.3
<walksanator> oh yeah and using lua
5.3L313[22:13:10] <walksanator> (5.2 just... isn't a option
for some reason)
<walksanator> (5.2 just... isn't a option
for some reason)L314[22:13:19] <walksanator> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152728953807704206/image.png
<walksanator> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1152728953807704206/image.pngL315[22:16:19] <Ocawesome101> why not 5.4?
<Ocawesome101> why not 5.4?L316[22:16:27] <walksanator> 🤷
<walksanator> 🤷L317[22:16:34] <walksanator> i am used to lua
5.2/luau
<walksanator> i am used to lua
5.2/luauL318[22:16:43] <walksanator> ~~why is luau not a
option~~
<walksanator> ~~why is luau not a
option~~L319[22:16:55] <walksanator> *and why no luajit*
<walksanator> *and why no luajit*L320[22:17:18] <Amanda> luajit is pretty
much abandonware, AIUI
L321[22:17:29] <walksanator> then atleast gimme
luau
<walksanator> then atleast gimme
luauL322[22:17:37] <walksanator> (you do know what luau is
right?)
<walksanator> (you do know what luau is
right?)L323[22:19:31] <Amanda> brb, updating
matrix
L324[22:19:31] <CompanionCube> \https://repo.or.cz/luajit-2.0.git/shortlog doesn't
look abandonware
L325[22:19:57] <walksanator> i wish i could remove `vi`
from busybox
<walksanator> i wish i could remove `vi`
from busyboxL326[22:20:00] <walksanator> nano my beloved
<walksanator> nano my belovedL327[22:23:41] ⇦
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L329[22:25:38] <Amanda> CompanionCube:
Might have been mis-informed/confused
L330[22:44:51] <walksanator> should i make my vm computer
mod for fabric
<walksanator> should i make my vm computer
mod for fabricL331[22:44:51] <walksanator> or should i try and make it
architectury
<walksanator> or should i try and make it
architecturyL332[23:25:48] <Amanda> %choose
laptopnaptime?
L333[23:25:49] <MichiBot> Amanda: I don't
think I've heard of "laptopnaptime", so probably
not.
L334[23:25:56] <Amanda> Liar!
L335[23:26:03] *
Amanda curls up, lets the laptop naptime
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L339[23:46:47] <Amanda> %choose more cubes
or halucinate
L340[23:46:48] <MichiBot> Amanda: Pretty
sure I'd want you to go with "more cubes"!