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L1[00:35:37] <Izzy> wao
L2[00:35:45] <Izzy> steam implemented LAN transfers for games
L3[00:36:48] <Izzy> currently maxing the HDDs of two machines
L4[00:38:54] <Izzy> like sure I could use rsync to do the same thing
L5[00:38:56] <Izzy> but
L6[00:38:58] <Izzy> wao
L7[00:42:33] <redston​eparkour> %tonk
L8[00:42:34] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks! redston​eparkour! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 1 hour, 55 minutes and 39 seconds (By 1 hour, 10 minutes and 41 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L9[00:42:35] <MichiBot> redstoneparkour's new record is 3 hours, 6 minutes and 20 seconds! redstoneparkour also gained 0.00236 (0.00118 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9. Need 0.33339 more points to pass walksanato​r. B⃢ot.!
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L17[03:53:49] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L18[03:53:50] <MichiBot> Fudge! Forec​aster! You beat redston​eparkour's previous record of 3 hours, 6 minutes and 20 seconds (By 4 minutes and 54 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L19[03:53:51] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.13543239. Position #2 Need 0.03310761 more points to pass Va​ur!
L20[05:03:40] * Amanda offers Elfi some meowning snackies
L21[05:06:51] <Forec​aster> Snacks!
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L23[05:58:44] <hi> hi
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L25[06:05:19] <Amanda> /nick bye
L26[06:18:51] <Forec​aster> %sip
L27[06:18:52] <MichiBot> You drink a forbidden emerald potion (New!). Forecaster: Nothing seemed to happen...
L28[06:19:01] <Forec​aster> Aww
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L31[06:35:57] <Ocawes​ome101> %tonk
L32[06:35:58] <MichiBot> Darn! Ocawes​ome101! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 42 minutes and 9 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L33[06:35:59] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101's new record is 2 hours, 42 minutes and 9 seconds! Ocawesome101 also gained 0.0027 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #10. Need 0.03532457 more points to pass Redston​eParkour!
L34[06:45:02] <Amanda> %remindme 20m check on db replication
L35[06:45:03] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check on db replication" in 20m at 07/27/2023 02:05:03 PM
L36[06:55:23] <Forec​aster> Don't Tribble your databases
L37[06:55:31] <Amanda> %p
L38[06:55:32] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.48s
L39[07:03:34] <Amanda> %p
L40[07:03:37] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.47s
L41[07:03:56] <Amanda> purrfect. now when my patroni cluster fails over it won't kill my matrix server
L42[07:05:04] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check on db replication
L43[07:11:19] <Forec​aster> did you move them further apart?
L44[07:47:28] <Amanda> %p
L45[07:47:30] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.46s
L46[07:48:22] <Amanda> %p
L47[07:48:23] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.47s
L48[07:48:59] <Amanda> %p
L49[07:49:00] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.46s
L50[07:49:11] <Amanda> There. NOW it's properly handling a failover.
L51[07:49:34] <Amanda> Have to restart the haproxy when I add/remove nodes, but it's otherwise automatic
L52[07:50:45] <Amanda> might just replace it with a small VM instead of using docker for this
L53[08:38:41] <Forec​aster> but then poor docker will be out of a job D:
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L56[09:51:37] <Va​ur> %tonk
L57[09:51:39] <MichiBot> Yippee! Va​ur! You beat Ocawes​ome101's previous record of 2 hours, 42 minutes and 9 seconds (By 33 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L58[09:51:40] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 15 minutes and 40 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00168 (0.00056 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L59[09:51:59] <Forec​aster> shoot, I was just calculating
L60[10:11:06] <Forec​aster> %sip
L61[10:11:08] <MichiBot> You drink a steady sky potion (New!). When Forecaster brings the bottle down they see A Spice colored plastic flamingo. It stares into their soul.
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L68[10:49:35] <Amanda> Good mews, I have deleted the universe.
L69[10:54:47] <Mic​hiyo> \o/
L70[10:54:56] <Mic​hiyo> But wait.... why am I still working?
L71[10:55:11] <Va​ur> %sip
L72[10:55:12] <MichiBot> You drink a knifey diamond potion (New!). Vaur is suddenly more aware of cute things nearby until the next time they hug someone.
L73[10:56:31] <Amanda> @Michiyo this is purgetory, that's why
L74[10:56:39] <Mic​hiyo> Fuck.
L75[10:58:28] <Forec​aster> This isn't Sparta?
L76[10:58:44] <Amanda> no, this is Amanda
L77[11:17:31] <Forec​aster> wait what
L78[11:17:48] <Forec​aster> they updated the Scarab SRV to have 4 units of cargo space
L79[11:17:49] <Forec​aster> nice
L80[11:36:06] <ubu​s99> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ahebosogoz
L81[11:38:00] <Forec​aster> I just use the lua repl and tab through component methods
L82[11:39:22] <fingercomp> `components -l gpu | less`
L83[11:40:39] <ubu​s99> >fingercomp: `components -l gpu | less`
L84[11:40:40] <ubu​s99> that requires me to know which components there are, i want something that can show me what is attached in the first place
L85[11:40:51] <fingercomp> `components | less`
L86[11:41:13] <Forec​aster> I use the lua repl for that too
L87[11:42:58] <ubu​s99> hi, how does that work? from google i can tell that this is an alternative interpreter, but not how to use it with OC
L88[11:43:29] <Forec​aster> you just run it with `lua` in OpenOS
L89[11:44:14] <ubu​s99> so i need to install a lua based lua interpreter, and it has a feature where i can list components/tables?
L90[11:44:25] <Forec​aster> you don't need to install anything
L91[11:44:33] <Forec​aster> it's built into OpenOS
L92[11:44:44] <Mic​hiyo> What's the issues installing Compviewer?
L93[11:48:14] <ubu​s99> dont know, probably that they use .yaml instead of .cfg
L94[11:48:42] <ubu​s99> i figured out how to do it manually, that isn't really user friendly, but will do for now
L95[11:49:11] <Forec​aster> write your own program that does it
L96[11:51:58] <ubu​s99> fair enough, I just wanted to know if anyone else had already done it and i could get around doing it myself
L97[11:54:41] <Forec​aster> %sip
L98[11:54:43] <MichiBot> You drink a proprietary strawberry potion (New!). Forecaster feels slightly weaker.
L99[11:56:06] <ubu​s99> i found the program i used previously: cBrowse.
L100[11:56:07] <ubu​s99> Google is just crap at indexing the forum and it didnt show up for my keywords since it is not specifically aimed at viewing components.
L101[11:56:30] <Mic​hiyo> Ok, working on updating Kenny programs to the new .cfg... addec compviewer, but it doesn't seem to work.. lol
L102[11:58:35] <Mic​hiyo> Oh, the auto update code is broken right...
L103[12:34:56] <Mic​hiyo> Ok, so WTF is wrong with my programs.cfg now ._. https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Kenny-Programs/blob/master/programs.cfg
L104[12:39:53] <ar2​000> nothing
L105[12:40:48] <ar2​000> maybe you didn't wait long enough for github's raw cache to empy
L106[12:42:45] <Mic​hiyo> Yes, the original error went away, but it's still not putting cv.gss into /home
L107[12:42:59] <ar2​000> double /
L108[12:43:16] <ar2​000> to tell it to use root instead of the install folder as the origin
L109[12:43:33] <Mic​hiyo> Ah, alright
L110[12:43:45] <Mic​hiyo> `["master/CompViewer/cv.gss"] = "//home"` ?
L111[12:43:58] <ar2​000> yep
L112[12:44:49] <ar2​000> The `/` forlder for oppm is reall `/usr/`
L113[12:45:10] <Mic​hiyo> Gotcha, I'd fix where this is loading from but I CBA
L114[12:45:54] <Mic​hiyo> hmm, still not putting it in home, I'll give it a few minutes for the cache again
L115[12:46:10] <Mic​hiyo> Cause yeah, still putting it in /usr/home
L116[12:47:40] <Mic​hiyo> Hmm, I wonder if it would be worth suggesting to Vex to append ?token=seconds or something to the end of the raw.githubusercontent.com requests
L117[12:47:49] <Mic​hiyo> that will cause it to always get the latest
L118[12:48:16] <Mic​hiyo> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenPrograms/Kenny-Programs/master/programs.cfg is wrong but https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenPrograms/Kenny-Programs/master/programs.cfg?token=ksafghkshdfkshfd is right
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L120[12:49:39] <Mic​hiyo> @ubus99compviewer can once again be installed via oppm
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L122[12:50:18] <Mic​hiyo> @vexatos Thoughts on my suggestion above to avoid the raw cache?
L123[12:51:18] <Vexatos> hi what did I miss
L124[12:51:26] <Mic​hiyo> ohhai
L125[12:51:47] <Mic​hiyo> Suggestion to append something like ?token=currseconds to the raw.github.... requests
L126[12:51:56] <Mic​hiyo> to avoid the up to 5 minute cache
L127[12:52:00] <Vexatos> oh gdi
L128[12:52:29] <Vexatos> did you confirm that it doesn't cache if you add parameters?
L129[12:52:43] <Vexatos> that would have been sick to know *checks time* seven years ago
L130[12:52:43] <Mic​hiyo> I verified it in my browser, seemed to work
L131[12:52:50] <Mic​hiyo> `https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenPrograms/Kenny-Programs/master/programs.cfg is wrong but https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenPrograms/Kenny-Programs/master/programs.cfg?token=ksafghkshdfkshfd is right`
L132[12:53:25] <Vexatos> you have no idea how much I want to not touch oppm anymore but sadly I still remember all of the code
L133[12:53:50] <Mic​hiyo> <3 sorry
L134[12:53:55] <Vexatos> nah it's a great idea
L135[12:54:05] <Vexatos> the caching has always been an issue
L136[12:54:33] <Vexatos> I can use os.time for that I assume
L137[12:54:49] <Mic​hiyo> Yep, should be fine
L138[12:55:29] <Vexatos> and I probably need to string.format that into an int
L139[12:55:47] <Vexatos> just to make sure
L140[12:55:50] <Vexatos> and so I don't have to urlencode it
L141[12:57:14] <Vexatos> ugh this means I should also look at the oppm PR I got which is not correct
L142[13:01:37] <Vexatos> I guess I just need to do it for the actual file downloads
L143[13:01:41] <Vexatos> not the API stuff
L144[13:01:44] <Vexatos> that might break anyway
L145[13:02:13] <Mic​hiyo> file downloads, and possibly the programs.cfg requests? maybe?
L146[13:02:18] <Vexatos> yea
L147[13:02:22] <Mic​hiyo> that's what was biting me, cause I was trying to fix it. lol
L148[13:02:44] <Vexatos> there is an API call to get the directory structure
L149[13:02:50] <Vexatos> but I don't trust putting that there
L150[13:02:58] <Mic​hiyo> Gotcha, likely ok
L151[13:03:14] <Amanda> %choose factorycat or spacecat
L152[13:03:15] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: spacecat'os, for a complete breakfast!
L153[13:03:22] <Amanda> Hrmhrm
L154[13:03:57] <Mic​hiyo> @ubus99 Switch your CPU to Lua 5.2, I'm not going to even try to update this to use bit32 on 5.3
L155[13:04:04] <Mic​hiyo> My goal was to get it installable
L156[13:04:13] <ubu​s99> alright, that was fast
L157[13:04:41] <Mic​hiyo> I got an email when you opened the issue lol
L158[13:05:50] <ubu​s99> sure, but i know how often i check my emails lol : D
L159[13:06:08] <Mic​hiyo> My phone dinged, my watch dinged, and I got a toast from both Chrome and FF :P
L160[13:06:13] <Mic​hiyo> I was well notified
L161[13:06:37] <Forec​aster> Your toaster dinged
L162[13:07:03] <Vexatos> this makes me feel like I've never written lua before even though I write lua all the time
L163[13:07:06] <Vexatos> cursed program
L164[13:09:09] <Forec​aster> just rewrite all of it from scratch, what could go wrong
L165[13:09:51] <Vexatos> true it's only an entire heckin package manager
L166[13:09:54] <Mic​hiyo> Just rewrite it all in scratch
L167[13:10:00] <Vexatos> michiyo: should work now
L168[13:10:02] <Vexatos> if you update oppm
L169[13:10:08] <Mic​hiyo> <3 Thanks Vex
L170[13:10:09] <Vexatos> after roughly five minutes :^)
L171[13:10:16] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L172[13:10:29] <Vexatos> please make sure I didn't break anything
L173[13:10:31] <Mic​hiyo> Trying to get Kenny's programs at least installable, so being able to quickly test changes will be great
L174[13:10:33] <Mic​hiyo> Will do
L175[13:10:44] <Forec​aster> you mean you don't have a decade to spare for a tiny rewrite?
L176[13:10:45] <Vexatos> it's the very least I can do
L177[13:11:44] <Vexatos> @Forecaster My current big hobby project is also Lua but it's a bit larger in scale than the OC stuff
L178[13:11:59] <Vexatos> and it's slightly better coded
L179[13:12:07] <Forec​aster> only slightly?
L180[13:12:10] <Vexatos> I'm pretty sure I wrote oppm on like a weekend
L181[13:12:57] <Vexatos> well there's definitely OC programs I'm a lot more proud of
L182[13:13:01] <Vexatos> like my drone netboot server
L183[13:15:31] <Vexatos> oh I never bothered uploading the improved version from 2019
L184[13:16:25] <ar2​000> *sad `:` prefix still broken*
L185[13:16:37] <Vexatos> not sure I can be bothered implementing that properly
L186[13:16:51] <ar2​000> >Michiyo: Just rewrite it all in scratch
L187[13:16:51] <ar2​000> that's why I wrote `pm`
L188[13:17:55] <ar2​000> and others reasons
L189[13:19:15] <ar2​000> to fix the `:` prefix, all that's needed is to correctly make a copy of a table as explained in issue #30
L190[13:20:41] <Vexatos> it doesn't look right
L191[13:20:58] <Vexatos> well aside from your deepcopy implementation being way too complex
L192[13:21:08] <ar2​000> I shallow copy may work, but I didn't want to risk a similar side effect to happen again
L193[13:21:57] <ar2​000> I admit it could be better
L194[13:22:23] <Vexatos> oh I see it's because it iterates through the table as it's edited
L195[13:22:26] <ar2​000> Especially in this context, the metatable part is not needed
L196[13:22:32] <Vexatos> yea in that case a shallowcopy would be enough
L197[13:22:33] <ar2​000> >Vexatos: oh I see it's because it iterates through the table as it's edited
L198[13:22:33] <ar2​000> exactly
L199[13:22:53] <ar2​000> want me to update the PR ?
L200[13:23:16] <Vexatos> I forget if openos has shallowcopy implemented somewhere
L201[13:25:08] <Vexatos> I still don't understand why it would behave like your report
L202[13:26:16] <Mic​hiyo> Vex, oppm still seems to function fine. Will double check the cache stuff in a few minutes
L203[13:26:29] <Vexatos> didn't misplace a bracket :)
L204[13:27:48] <ar2​000> >Vexatos: I still don't understand why it would behave like your report
L205[13:27:48] <ar2​000> [a,b,c,d]
L206[13:27:49] <ar2​000> delete id 2 (`b`), now move to id 3. It's `d` and not `c`
L207[13:29:16] <Vexatos> I think it's better to instead shallowcopy info.files
L208[13:29:26] <Vexatos> foir the first pairs
L209[13:33:14] <ar2​000> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/1134221985740767312/image.png
L210[13:33:35] <ar2​000> I've synced my fork to test shallowcopy with the last version
L211[13:33:40] <ar2​000> you broke oppm 😦
L212[13:33:48] <Vexatos> no Michiyo broke oppm
L213[13:33:51] <Mic​hiyo> Odd.. it worked for me?
L214[13:33:59] <ar2​000> os.time() can return a float
L215[13:34:02] <Vexatos> I knew it wouldn't always be integer
L216[13:34:23] <Forec​aster> can't you just floor it
L217[13:34:46] <Vexatos> let's hope that's enough
L218[13:34:53] <Forec​aster> full speed into the night
L219[13:35:10] <Mic​hiyo> I guess it's only an issue at EXACTLY the right (wrong) time?
L220[13:35:12] <ar2​000> I can send the floor fix rn, with the shallow copy
L221[13:35:19] <Mic​hiyo> cause.. yeah.. it works still
L222[13:35:48] <Amanda> Or windows/Linux host differences
L223[13:35:55] <Forec​aster> works on my ~~system~~ time
L224[13:36:12] <ar2​000> maybe lua 5.2/5.3 ?
L225[13:36:32] <Amanda> Istr windows uses a different system clock granularly than Linux
L226[13:36:33] <Mic​hiyo> I am on 5.2 on my CPU currently... so possibly?
L227[13:37:08] <Vexatos> pushed a fix
L228[13:37:12] <Vexatos> hopefully enough
L229[13:37:18] <Vexatos> I just math.floor it now
L230[13:37:20] <ar2​000> I'm 5.3
L231[13:37:32] <Vexatos> but I tested it on 5.4
L232[13:37:34] <Vexatos> 5.3*
L233[13:37:46] <Mic​hiyo> Well, it works still so maybe? lol
L234[13:38:04] <Vexatos> please test
L235[13:38:57] <Mic​hiyo> works in 5.2 and 5.3 on WIndows for me
L236[13:39:09] <Amanda> %choose spacecat or family dinner
L237[13:39:10] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A nearby lamp whispers "family dinner" such that it's barely audible.
L238[13:39:19] <Amanda> Fiiiine
L239[13:40:55] <Vexatos> @ar2000 try now I guess
L240[13:47:20] <ar2​000> @vexatos fixed
L241[13:47:32] <Vexatos> your folder parsing issue too?
L242[13:47:39] <ar2​000> I have all my files installed
L243[13:47:55] <ar2​000> yes. It was just the shallowcopy missing to fix it
L244[13:47:58] <Vexatos> yay
L245[13:49:01] <ar2​000> time for me to update my readmes warning about this bug
L246[13:49:46] <Vexatos> I haven't really touched my OC stuff in three years or so
L247[13:49:57] <Vexatos> maybe I should just get through all the issues while I'm at it
L248[13:50:21] <Vexatos> sadly I can't get computronics to compile on my new machine
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L250[14:03:20] <ar2​000> I was contemplating making a script to replace the `:` prefix with the individuals files. I'm glad I won't have to do it.
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L252[14:03:44] <ar2​000> My projects kind of have a LOT of files
L253[14:04:57] <ar2​000> yawl : 14
L254[14:04:57] <ar2​000> osinetwork : 33
L255[14:05:55] <luna​r_sam> who turned up the heat
L256[14:06:01] <ar2​000> the sun
L257[14:06:09] <ar2​000> https://tenor.com/view/the-sun-is-a-deadly-lazer-gif-8691250
L258[14:30:49] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L259[14:30:50] <MichiBot> Awesome! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 3 hours, 15 minutes and 40 seconds (By 1 hour, 23 minutes and 31 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L260[14:30:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 39 minutes and 11 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00556 (0.00139 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.02922761 more points to pass Va​ur!
L261[16:05:13] <Izzy> hmm, I think my next opencomputers project will be writing a wrapper for tape drives to use them like block devices
L262[16:05:45] <Amanda> %choose rain box or halucinate instead
L263[16:05:45] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: You hear a faraway lamp yell "rain box!".
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L265[18:04:31] * Amanda curls up around Elfi to protecc, gets ready for zzzmews
L266[18:10:10] <Amanda> Night girls
L267[21:09:09] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L268[21:09:10] <MichiBot> Bingo! Compan​ionCube! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 4 hours, 39 minutes and 11 seconds (By 1 hour, 59 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L269[21:09:11] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.09394481. Position #3 Need 0.04704758 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L270[21:50:56] <Izzy> okay friendos
L271[21:51:10] <Izzy> I'm working on implementing a block device on top of tapes
L272[21:51:33] <Izzy> however, tapes dont divide evenly into 512 byte sectors
L273[21:54:30] <Izzy> given I thought tapes were 4KB/s I'm a tad confused but that's okay
L274[21:56:08] <Izzy> anyway, how should I handle the remainder?
L275[21:56:50] <Izzy> I'm thinking that the final sector will be the partition table as usual, but any remainder will also be usable for the partition table
L276[22:16:42] <CompanionCube> does it have to be 512b
L277[22:17:16] <Izzy> not strictly, but 128 byte sectors are ... odd
L278[22:17:47] <CompanionCube> also, the GNOME post on tiling got the very rare reaction of actually liking it
L279[22:22:19] <CompanionCube> coming up with a new innovative feature vs removing or being a bad apple knockoff is a W
L280[23:15:21] <Ocawes​ome101> %tonk
L281[23:15:22] <MichiBot> Boom! Ocawes​ome101! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 6 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L282[23:15:23] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101's new record is 2 hours, 6 minutes and 12 seconds! Ocawesome101 also gained 0.0021 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #10. Need 0.03322457 more points to pass Redston​eParkour!
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