L2[01:01:13] <CompanionCube> %tonk

L3[01:01:24] <MichiBot> Woah! Compan​ionCube! You beat sp​okr's previous record of 1 hour, 36 minutes and 7 seconds (By 3 hours, 20 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L4[01:01:25] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 4 hours, 56 minutes and 20 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00668 (0.00334 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.04134758 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L6[01:12:54] <Amanda> Night girls

L7[06:00:18] <Va​ur> %tonkout

L8[06:00:22] <MichiBot> By my throth! Va​ur! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of 4 hours, 56 minutes and 20 seconds (By 2 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L9[06:00:23] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.88574. Position #3 Need 0.08783481 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!

L10[06:07:33] <CompanionCube> dammit

L11[06:09:59] <Va​ur> %sip

L12[06:10:10] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly green potion (New!). Everything Vaur says is now in Wingdings until they see a bird.

L13[06:10:21] <Mic​hiyo> nice bit of delay there MichiBot

L14[06:10:24] <Mic​hiyo> %test

L15[06:10:32] <Va​ur> yeah, a lot of delay

L16[06:10:37] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.

L17[06:11:07] <Mic​hiyo> *sigh*

L18[06:11:10] <Mic​hiyo> load on the box is 14

L19[06:11:29] <Mic​hiyo> 17

L20[06:11:39] <Mic​hiyo> 22

L21[06:11:41] <Mic​hiyo> ....

L22[06:11:55] <Va​ur> rip

L23[06:13:27] <Forec​aster> Those tests take a lot out of her

L24[06:15:30] <Mic​hiyo> %testr

L25[06:15:32] <Mic​hiyo> damn it

L26[06:15:34] <Mic​hiyo> %test

L27[06:15:43] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.

L28[06:15:52] <Mic​hiyo> ~10 seconds..

L29[06:29:20] <Forec​aster> %sip

L30[06:29:26] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy tiberium potion (New!). Forecaster gains one research point. Forecaster now has 1 point. (Rem. uses: 1)

L31[06:29:42] <Forec​aster> That was like 8 seconds

L32[06:35:07] <Mic​hiyo> %test

L33[06:35:12] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.

L34[06:35:26] <Mic​hiyo> 7.. load is down to 2.5 whats the issue then

L35[06:35:43] <Mic​hiyo> Neverfuckin mind load is 8 again

L36[06:46:17] <Mic​hiyo> %test

L37[06:46:17] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.

L38[06:46:42] <Mic​hiyo> %test

L39[06:46:43] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.

L40[06:46:48] <Mic​hiyo> ok...

L43[07:01:17] <Forec​aster> %sip gloomy tiberium

L44[07:01:17] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy tiberium potion. Forecaster gains one research point. Forecaster now has 2 points. (Rem. uses: 0)

L45[07:35:02] <Va​ur> %sip

L46[07:35:05] <MichiBot> You drink an icy stainless steel potion (New!). Vaur: Nothing seemed to happen...

L49[10:30:44] <Va​ur> %tonk

L50[10:30:47] <MichiBot> Yow! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 30 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L51[10:30:48] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 30 minutes and 25 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00451)

L52[10:30:54] <Va​ur> %sip

L53[10:30:56] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy tan potion (New!). Vaur feels slightly slower.

L59[11:41:04] <Forec​aster> %sip

L60[11:41:07] <MichiBot> You drink a falling red potion (New!). Forecaster's skin turn the color of unobtanium but with a quicksilver glow until they say the word "Woof".

L61[11:41:33] <Forec​aster> Eh, it'll wear off on its own

L62[12:01:13] <Amanda> Or will it?

L63[12:07:59] <Amanda> Do you regularly go Woof unprompted?

L64[12:22:20] <Izzy> damn I've really been doing a number on my home network too

L66[12:22:47] <Izzy> sure would be a shame if anyone were watching something via the internet while I was doing so

L69[12:50:46] <Amanda> @Izzy a damn shame, that is, a damn shame

L71[12:59:43] <Amanda> %remindme 7d try pages server again

L72[12:59:46] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "try pages server again" in 7d at 07/09/2023 12:59:44 PM

L73[13:09:59] <Forec​aster> I'm not a canine, so no

L74[13:10:29] <Amanda> Then why would it go away on it's own?

L77[13:30:16] <Mic​hiyo> %test

L78[13:30:18] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.

L79[13:40:46] <Forec​aster> Why would the effect be permanent? That's too much effort for random potions

L80[13:42:05] <Amanda> Because it says it's happening "until you woof"

L81[13:42:15] <Amanda> so if you don't woof, why would it stop?

L84[14:42:14] <S​3> Day 12345678 of trying to figure out why Minecraft is the only game that won't load...

L85[14:43:14] <lunar_sam> magic!

L86[14:44:57] <S​3> It's terrible.

L87[14:45:20] <S​3> I'm thinking whatt I should do is try making a simple lwjgl opengl context

L88[14:45:23] <S​3> and see if that comes up

L89[14:45:41] <S​3> if that causes the jdk to segfault, I'll have at least some sort of lead

L90[14:47:38] <lunar_sam> wait what GPU do you have and what minecraft version

L91[14:47:46] <lunar_sam> also what OS/distro are you using

L92[14:51:05] <S​3> Slackware, adoptium jdk 17 7+7, Nvidia RTX 3050, Minecraft 1.20.1 now, I tried with 1.19 and such, nothing worked. What happen is that the literal moment when Minecraft opens an lwjgl window context (maybe with glfw or something?) the jdk immediately crashes and segfaults with no core dump and nothing useful in the log.

L93[14:51:31] <lunar_sam> huh

L94[14:51:39] <S​3> I think though. I tried starting Minecraft in a different way, and now I am getting libva errors with the launcher. I kinda wonder... does lwjgl need parameters the launcher passes via libva env variables?

L95[14:51:59] <lunar_sam> i haven't used slackware before

L96[14:52:26] <S​3> My fear of what is actually happening, is that I wonder if Minecraft is trying to initialize the intel graphics card or something which is disabled, and didn't work when it was enabled with the nvidia card using prime...

L97[14:52:38] <S​3> the open source nvidia drivers didn't work either

L98[14:52:42] <lunar_sam> 'cause i was wondering if it could be a glibc issue or something like that

L99[14:52:43] <S​3> Which, I hat ethem anyways

L100[14:52:57] <lunar_sam> since that's been a problem for some games on My Machine(tm)

L102[14:53:00] <S​3> Well, that's why I wish I had a coredump

L103[14:53:07] <S​3> if I had a coredump I could find that out super fast

L104[14:53:18] <lunar_sam> i had to patch gmod 64-bit because of it

L105[14:53:33] <S​3> Because I don't think it's Java, I think it's a JNI issue if that makes sense

L106[14:53:45] <S​3> Java is uusing some library, and it's not happy with it

L107[14:54:07] <S​3> if I knew what call it made just before the segmentation fault..

L108[14:55:18] <S​3> It ccan be tricky to get valgring and strace to work with games like Minecraft because you essentially use a program that launches another prgram that has different execution context

L109[14:55:36] <lunar_sam> i assume you're using the stock launcher

L110[14:55:41] <Forec​aster> >Amanda: so if you don't woof, why would it stop?

L111[14:55:41] <Forec​aster> Because permanent magic takes a lot of power

L112[14:56:11] <S​3> Yeah I tried with multimc as well though. There's a wrapper application option but it didn't seem to work right for generating a core dump...

L113[14:56:21] <S​3> I tried to get it to set ulimit and such

L114[14:58:10] <lunar_sam> oh i was thinking of trying to run java with gdb or something

L115[14:59:19] <S​3> That is another possibility but that would be extremely overkill

L116[14:59:20] <S​3> LOL

L117[14:59:49] <lunar_sam> i mean that's what i do when things start randomly segfaulting :v

L118[15:00:34] <lunar_sam> speaking of

L119[15:00:42] <lunar_sam> prismlauncher doesn't wanna run so

L120[15:00:52] <lunar_sam> i'm going back to writing a cgi application :v

L121[15:00:58] <S​3> LOL

L122[15:01:27] <lunar_sam> ~well there's a cgi and a fcgi version but that's neither here nor there~

L123[15:01:59] <S​3> I mean all CGI is is a map of stdin and stdout with extra things

L124[15:02:05] <S​3> It's pretty dead simple.

L125[15:02:10] <lunar_sam> ~i'm just working on the cgi version first because one of my friends offered to host it on an NT4 box that may eventually switch to a real K6 or pentium~

L126[15:02:25] <lunar_sam> ~also i plan on running an instance on a PS2~

L127[15:02:32] <S​3> I had a 166Mhz K6 at one point

L128[15:03:25] <S​3> I always thought they were weird

L129[15:03:30] <S​3> because they aren't a multiple of 33

L130[15:03:37] <S​3> But the bus speed is

L131[15:04:08] <lunar_sam> i'm just making a silly little imageboard :v

L132[15:04:22] <lunar_sam> that could also probably double as forum software

L133[15:04:34] <lunar_sam> even made a cool little thing for the templates

L134[15:04:41] <lunar_sam> speaking of, i need to update the github repo

L135[15:05:49] <lunar_sam> https://github.com/lunaboards-dev/LHP

L136[15:07:40] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/s6KJllJtMv5YD3huGxempwQSloTcux5RZeQAq8gx/Screenshot_from_2023-07-02_11-07-25.png

L137[15:07:52] <lunar_sam> best error handler Ever

L138[15:08:18] <lunar_sam> oh yeah, i still gotta change it over to using the system that lets me reuse the same code for cgi and fastcgi

L139[15:10:56] <S​3> Fix it!

L140[15:11:38] <lunar_sam> https://j.404.city:5443/share/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/EktUgBdFfvQFc22PM9GxQL5aaWHYtN7ue6hepKuP/fb700e39-1fe0-44e4-bc52-7198ca18702e.png

L141[15:11:39] <lunar_sam> shrimple as

L142[15:44:56] <Va​ur> %tonkout

L143[15:44:57] <MichiBot> Yikes! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 30 minutes and 25 seconds (By 43 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L144[15:44:58] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.89874, Position #3 Need 0.07483481 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!

L146[15:45:29] <Mic​hiyo> Well... this is... neat

L147[15:45:30] <Mic​hiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/index.php/s/nNQ9Q3cgrMjPx3L

L148[16:17:36] <Ocawes​ome101> %tonk

L149[16:17:37] <MichiBot> Dogast! Ocawes​ome101! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 32 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L150[16:17:38] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101's new record is 32 minutes and 40 seconds! Ocawesome101 also gained 0.00054 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #16. Need 0.00667 more points to pass vau​r06!

L151[16:17:55] <S​3> This is getting really interesting:

L152[16:17:56] <S​3> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/relojawuji

L153[16:18:02] <S​3> So like, it's complaining abot glfwInitAllocator missing but that appears to be a function in Java

L154[16:18:09] <S​3> Or at least in the glfw.java file

L155[16:18:27] <S​3> or close, at leats. It's not an issue with the library itself

L156[16:18:45] <lunar_sam> wow this error handling is a fuckfuckfest

L157[16:18:52] <lunar_sam> (in my own code, that is)

L158[16:18:59] <Ocawes​ome101> are you running through X or Wayland?

L159[16:19:04] <Ocawes​ome101> (S3)

L160[16:19:04] <S​3> I tried both

L161[16:19:07] <S​3> Rght now, just X

L162[16:19:14] <Ocawes​ome101> hmmm

L163[16:19:18] <Hawk777> That’s not a Java method missing exception. Looks like it’s looking for that function maybe in a native library and not finding it there, or something?

L164[16:19:27] <lunar_sam> it's somehow trying to spit out 4 or 5 different errors lol

L165[16:24:21] <S​3> @Ocawesome101 Ok so this is interesting...

L168[16:27:39] <S​3> So, you may be right about that. It could just be how that JNI wrapper works for finding library calls. Anyways... I looked through the glfw libraries function calls and include headers. There is no such function for that. So, I was like ok.. I compiled the latest stable version, 3.3.8 it doesn't have that function

L169[16:27:46] <S​3> SOOOO... I checked the documentation again

L170[16:27:59] <S​3> documentation says, "glfwInitAllocator" added in version 3.4

L171[16:28:02] <S​3> 3.4 isn't even out yet

L172[16:28:50] <S​3> I'm going to compile from github and see what that says

L173[16:34:37] <S​3> Why the hell is it using an unsupported glfw version

L174[16:34:51] <S​3> There must have been some sort of compatability need or something

L175[16:36:04] <S​3> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/uzeqitelal

L176[16:36:07] <S​3> Cool so we can try that

L177[16:37:17] <S​3> Aha, and that's where the segfault happens.

L178[16:37:32] <S​3> So it loads now, but it segfaults with the non stable glfw

L179[16:37:33] <S​3> wth

L180[16:39:06] <S​3> And like that now Minecraft 1.12.2 now works fine.

L181[16:39:16] <S​3> Just not 1.19, 1.20, anything using the unstable glfw code.

L182[16:46:07] <S​3> So I guess the mystery is solved but it's not what I wanted to find out.

L183[17:04:12] <S​3> I might just GPU passthrough to a Windows 11 VM LOL

L184[17:16:50] <Amanda> Why are you using a system glfw, doesn't it package it's own?

L185[17:19:36] <S​3> It does, it packages the unstable, master branch git version

L186[17:19:45] <S​3> and uses functions that aren't released yet

L187[17:20:16] <Amanda> so if they're packing their own glfw why would it be crashing because a missing function?

L188[17:20:29] <Amanda> ( "they" being Mojang (

L189[17:23:03] <S​3> No no. It's not that. Their version is segfaulting with not much help on the error, so I forced it to use my system install glfw. That's when I saw it was using api calls that didn't exist. So I sought out the documentation on glfw's website. Turns out, the api calls they are using aren't released yet. The latest version of glfw is 3.3.8, and the master git branch is unofficially referred to as 3.4 but it has no tag or anything... So... I buil

L190[17:23:04] <S​3> glfw from git, confimed that the new build had the api calls I needed, re ran Minecraft, and it just so turns out, I get the same segfault stack trace.

L191[17:23:56] <S​3> So Minecraft is shipping with an unsupported glfw.

L192[17:24:43] <S​3> Which, for some reason, just doesn't like my configuration / hardware

L193[18:23:30] <Amanda> %choose comfort or utility

L194[18:23:33] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I received a telegram from a long lost relative that only read "utility". Weird.

L195[19:42:51] <redston​eparkour> %tonk

L196[19:42:52] <MichiBot> Yay! redston​eparkour! You beat Ocawes​ome101's previous record of 32 minutes and 40 seconds (By 2 hours, 52 minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L197[19:42:53] <MichiBot> redstoneparkour's new record is 3 hours, 25 minutes and 14 seconds! redstoneparkour also gained 0.00288 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9. Need 0.35925 more points to pass walksanato​r. B⃢ot.!

L199[20:28:09] <Forec​aster> >Michiyo: Well... this is... neat

L200[20:28:09] <Forec​aster> Your notepad became see through and is showing the inside of the monitor

L201[20:50:01] <Amanda> %choose rain box or veg out more

L202[20:50:02] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I've heard "rain box" is in these days

L203[20:50:14] <Amanda> Sounds good

L204[21:54:28] <Forec​aster> Sounds like a great time for a heist then! That rain box will make me a fortune on the black market!

L206[22:10:26] <Amanda> Hey! Bad!

L207[22:16:10] <Forec​aster> It was like that then I found it! I mean what

L208[22:36:38] <Amanda> Elfi: https://inkyrickshaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/157-Fairy-Supportive-900.jpg

L210[23:11:17] <ar2​000> https://tenor.com/view/korok-yahaha-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-loz-gif-22535699