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L1[00:00:18] <techt​astic> Don't gotta have hardware
L2[00:00:29] <Mic​hiyo> The fact that it's a dedicated server, not depending on my internet, and power
L3[00:01:07] <Mic​hiyo> I renewed the contract last year because we were going to be moving and I didn't know what my internet situation was going to be... sadly the move fell through, and I'm stuck in this shithole for another 13 months
L4[00:02:18] <yor> that is unfortunate
L5[00:02:22] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/26zhb8gu
L6[00:02:37] <Mic​hiyo> Now I have everything racked up, and if I can save $70 a month, I might as well...
L7[00:02:55] <S​ky> hmm
L8[00:02:59] <S​ky> needs more server :p
L9[00:03:10] <Mic​hiyo> I agree, sadly I need more money.
L10[00:03:26] <Mic​hiyo> I have one I REALLY want, it's $250 which is about $1250 more than I can spend.
L11[00:03:40] <S​ky> damn
L12[00:04:14] <S​ky> what i need is just more damn storage lol
L13[00:04:18] <yor> is hosting proxmox actually worth it though? im running this minecraft server through proxmox on a computer i found on the side of the road
L14[00:04:18] <S​ky> not even compute
L15[00:04:28] <Mic​hiyo> Dell R720XD 12th Gen Dell, 2 CPUs, 48GB of RAM for $250
L16[00:04:35] <S​ky> my father worked at VMWare, so I'm biased towards ESXi
L17[00:04:38] <S​ky> (i like ESXi)
L18[00:04:50] <yor> proxmox is much easier to learn imo
L19[00:04:55] <S​ky> https://i.skystuff.cc/hkb6q2SNVgqd.png
L20[00:04:56] <S​ky> wtf
L21[00:05:31] <Mic​hiyo> Yes? like I said having it on a server, in a datacenter is really nice for not having to worry about internet outages, power outages, or ya know when it gets to 115 in my house I don't have to shut off the server that hosts all of my stuff.
L22[00:06:11] <Mic​hiyo> The OVH box runs websites that I really don't want to be down, and other stuff that... I just really don't want to be down because of some random crap.
L23[00:06:44] <yor> I would've guessed it would be cheaper to rent smaller individual servers then to have everything on one proxmox machine
L24[00:06:52] <yor> but now that i look at the prices...
L25[00:07:03] <S​ky> >Michiyo: Dell R720XD 12th Gen Dell, 2 CPUs, 48GB of RAM for $250
L26[00:07:03] <S​ky> I have this sitting in my basement
L27[00:07:04] <S​ky> https://i.skystuff.cc/KCGlAHFwg2bP.png
L28[00:07:18] <Mic​hiyo> I mean.... $70 for 8 cores and 64GB of RAM is pretty good.
L29[00:07:33] <Mic​hiyo> I could get a bunch of $5-10 VPSes but I don't have dedicated resources.
L30[00:07:43] <yor> $70 a month?
L31[00:07:43] <S​ky> is that $70 a dedicated box?
L32[00:07:52] <Mic​hiyo> I have a 6th gen DL360 sitting in the bottom of that rack in my picture lol
L33[00:07:54] <Mic​hiyo> yeah
L34[00:07:57] <S​ky> damn
L35[00:08:00] <yor> god damn that is not cheap
L36[00:08:16] <Mic​hiyo> Right, which is why I'm currently trying to migrate the VMs it runs
L37[00:08:27] <Mic​hiyo> So I can drop the contract in October
L38[00:08:32] <S​ky> https://i.skystuff.cc/xoXTLrRuROHI.png
L39[00:08:34] <S​ky> using lots of ram lol
L40[00:08:39] <S​ky> i should buy more ram for this machine
L41[00:08:44] <S​ky> i think it fits like 192gb
L42[00:08:53] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/2czg567a
L43[00:08:56] <Mic​hiyo> Get on my level.
L44[00:08:57] <S​ky> wha
L45[00:09:00] <S​ky> ok rich kid
L46[00:09:07] <S​ky> the ai server I just built only has 128gb lol
L47[00:09:09] <Mic​hiyo> lmao this RAM was $80 :P
L48[00:09:14] <Mic​hiyo> the server it's in? $100
L49[00:09:15] <yor> that doesn't sound fun but good luck on the switch
L50[00:09:15] <S​ky> wtf
L51[00:09:20] <S​ky> thats cheap even for ddr3
L52[00:09:25] <Mic​hiyo> the CPU upgrades were $35 for 4 CPUs
L53[00:09:31] <S​ky> what the actual fuck lmao
L54[00:09:36] <Mic​hiyo> EBay baby
L55[00:09:45] <Mic​hiyo> watch for the cheap shit.
L56[00:09:52] <Mic​hiyo> 10GB networking to the entire rack
L57[00:09:59] <Mic​hiyo> AND a dedicated fiber run to my desktop
L58[00:10:05] <S​ky> jesus
L59[00:10:19] <S​ky> i'm in canada, so the used server market isnt as big here
L60[00:10:31] <S​ky> and i have brand new networking stuff from ubiquiti
L61[00:10:47] <Mic​hiyo> This is my TrueNAS box https://tinyurl.com/29sjexbp
L62[00:11:01] <yor> can confirm, market is dry around here
L63[00:11:29] <Mic​hiyo> I'm about 20 minutes from Portland OR, and about 3 hours from Seattle, WA so LOTS of hardware
L64[00:11:38] <S​ky> the latest "great deal" on a server i found was $300 for a machine with like 20 cores 40 threads, and 128gb of ram
L65[00:11:59] <S​ky> my father bought it and it's now doing god knows what in some random location
L66[00:12:12] <Mic​hiyo> I REALLY wish the G6 DL360 was a LITTLE better... I'd use it for the Proxmox box...
L67[00:12:19] <Mic​hiyo> but jesus it's so slow.
L68[00:12:27] <Mic​hiyo> my Dell machines stomp all over it
L69[00:12:42] <S​ky> my DL360 (granted, G7) is fast enough for my needs
L70[00:12:42] <Mic​hiyo> And they came out the same year
L71[00:12:49] <S​ky> it runs plex, and some other stuff
L72[00:13:39] <Mic​hiyo> I REALLY wish I could get a GPU running well in my R815... it runs Plex, but I can't transcode well because the CPUs are slow. I put a GPU in it, and still couldn't transcode well even though the GPU supported what I was throwing at it.
L73[00:13:51] <Mic​hiyo> Turns out I think the GPU was starved for power even with my power mod.
L74[00:14:14] <S​ky> my dl360 is supporting up to like 3 clients at a time perfectly fine (all streaming 1080p video, but i dont know if it is transcoding at all)
L75[00:14:31] <Mic​hiyo> If I turn on subtitles in plex it craps allll over itself.
L76[00:14:43] <S​ky> my mother has subtitles on, and it's running perfectly fine
L77[00:14:46] <Mic​hiyo> Ah, yeah my clients are 4k so I have a decent bit of 4k media
L78[00:14:52] <S​ky> oh yeah well theres that lol
L79[00:15:02] <S​ky> theres no 4k displays in my house at all lmao
L80[00:15:18] <Mic​hiyo> Both mine and my kids have 4k TVs
L81[00:15:33] <S​ky> >Sky: ok rich kid
L82[00:15:33] <S​ky> my point exactly
L83[00:15:50] <S​ky> i have a 1080p tv thats probably the same age i am
L84[00:15:54] <S​ky> maybe a couple years younger
L85[00:16:06] <Mic​hiyo> Roommate's TV is 8k :P
L86[00:16:10] <S​ky> if i use it for more than about an hour the screen starts to look like shit
L87[00:16:15] <S​ky> >Michiyo: Roommate's TV is 8k :P
L88[00:16:15] <S​ky> wtf lmao
L89[00:16:36] <Mic​hiyo> 75" or 80" 8K Samsung.. lol
L90[00:16:45] <S​ky> mine is (i think) a 46" insignia
L91[00:17:01] <Mic​hiyo> I'm far from rich, I'm just very bad with Credit Cards, and have poor impulse control. (And I stay on ebay too much)
L92[00:17:03] <S​ky> in Ubuntu (my media center / mini server machine) it reports as a 23" "zortran" or whatever
L93[00:17:05] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I have a 55" 4k TV. I wanted something smaller, but it was the only affordable dumb TV I could get my hands on
L94[00:17:17] <S​ky> maybe not zortran
L95[00:17:25] <S​ky> but it definitely reports as like half the size it physically is
L96[00:17:36] <Mic​hiyo> I downsized from 55 to 50, just because the 55 was too big to fit where it has to because my room is tiny AF
L97[00:17:41] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> All the "smart" features are from a pi running OSMC
L98[00:17:42] <Mic​hiyo> so my kids got the old 55
L99[00:17:58] <S​ky> >PwnagePineapple (He/Him): All the "smart" features are from a pi running OSMC
L100[00:17:59] <S​ky> my "smart" tv is powered by my ubuntu box lol
L101[00:18:08] <S​ky> turns out, running a DE isn't actually that expensive
L102[00:18:16] <S​ky> 300MB ram, a little bit of gpu compute, not terrible
L103[00:18:49] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I just wanted something that would boot directly to Kodi but still had a full OS behind it, not the trimmed down env of LibreELEC
L104[00:18:55] <Mic​hiyo> >Michiyo: I'm far from rich, I'm just very bad with Credit Cards, and have poor impu…
L105[00:18:55] <Mic​hiyo> And almost all of my hardware is used, and old AF
L106[00:18:59] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> OSMC fit the bill nicely
L107[00:19:05] <S​ky> my pc is built out of new parts
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L109[00:19:20] <S​ky> my private server is built out of hand me downs from my pc or other pcs in my house
L110[00:19:27] <Mic​hiyo> my desktop is new, yes. servers are very much not
L111[00:19:33] <S​ky> my AI server is built out of hand me downs from the same pool
L112[00:19:41] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> My PC is a prebuilt from System76, my home server is build from parts that were new when I built it
L113[00:19:47] <S​ky> system76 pog
L114[00:20:03] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> My desktop is a Thelio and my laptop is a Pangolin
L115[00:20:11] <S​ky> my next laptop is gonna be a framework
L116[00:20:19] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah I want a Framework
L117[00:20:24] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Does Framework make one with a 15" screen?
L118[00:20:29] <S​ky> my current laptop (asus x541 thingy) just needs to last 2 more weeks until i graduate
L119[00:20:32] <S​ky> >PwnagePineapple (He/Him): Does Framework make one with a 15" screen?
L120[00:20:32] <S​ky> not yet
L121[00:20:34] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I don't really wanna go smaller than that
L122[00:20:34] <S​ky> later this year
L123[00:20:40] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> 👀
L124[00:20:43] <S​ky> they're making a 15.6" framework
L125[00:20:47] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Noice
L126[00:20:51] <Mic​hiyo> my current laptop is a... *sigh* Surface Book 3 (waits for the rich kid shit again)
L127[00:20:55] <S​ky> https://frame.work/laptop-16
L128[00:21:00] <S​ky> >Michiyo: my current laptop is a... *sigh* Surface Book 3 (waits for the rich k…
L129[00:21:01] <S​ky> 💸
L130[00:21:14] <S​ky> but yeah my laptop is quite literally starting to fall apart
L131[00:21:18] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> A Surface Book? Is it any good?
L132[00:21:23] <Mic​hiyo> Again, though, not rich, just REALLY bad with Credit Cards, and I wanted something nice :P
L133[00:21:26] <S​ky> the battery or power management circuitry is fuckin toast
L134[00:21:27] <Mic​hiyo> I love it.
L135[00:21:57] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I also run Void Linux on my laptop. My desktop runs Arch and I plan on switching it over at some point
L136[00:22:20] <S​ky> my desktop runs windows for games, literally everything else runs some flavour of ubuntu (20.04 or 22.04)
L137[00:22:25] <Mic​hiyo> My oldest (fucking... HS Graduate now oof my back / knees hurt) uses it for drawing, she's really good. It replaced a ~10 year old Dell that was slowly dying
L138[00:22:56] <S​ky> im gonna become an HS graduate in 2 weeks lol
L139[00:23:02] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I game on my Steam Deck or my desktop for the most part
L140[00:23:23] <Mic​hiyo> The only issue I have with the Surface Book is shitty Linux support... last time I looked (it's been forever) there was no touch screen support in Linux, and IIRC the screen detach function was broken?
L141[00:24:22] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Yeah I'd never buy one then lol
L142[00:24:27] <S​ky> wow framework added a new expansion card in the 6 hours since i visited their site lol
L143[00:24:29] <Mic​hiyo> I've got a Framework in the cart... but It's going to be years before I can do anything with it, so who knows what will be out by then :P https://tinyurl.com/27evt4nu
L144[00:24:31] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I haven't used Windows since middle school
L145[00:24:32] <S​ky> HDMI third gen
L146[00:25:35] <S​ky> https://i.skystuff.cc/lcTSZ6YYlafC.png
L147[00:25:37] <S​ky> This is what I got
L148[00:25:44] <Mic​hiyo> Oh, right, another issue with the Surface Book.... it's IMPOSSIBLE to upgrade. RAM is soldered on the board, and the SSD while replaceable requires disassembling the ENTIRE display
L149[00:25:49] <S​ky> (in cart, not buying it yet lol)
L150[00:25:54] <Mic​hiyo> I only have 256GB :/
L151[00:25:56] <S​ky> >Michiyo: Oh, right, another issue with the Surface Book.... it's IMPOSSIBLE to …
L152[00:25:56] <S​ky> oof
L153[00:27:01] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> >Michiyo: Oh, right, another issue with the Surface Book.... it's IMPOSSIBLE to upgrade. RAM is sold…
L154[00:27:02] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Ew
L155[00:27:10] <Mic​hiyo> yeaaaah
L156[00:27:28] <S​ky> man
L157[00:27:28] <S​ky> ai is bullshit
L158[00:27:41] <S​ky> i trained up a "babys first ai" project kinda thing on my gpu for like an hour
L159[00:27:48] <S​ky> and it's only 22% good at identifying images
L160[00:28:26] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Omg Framework sells the fasteners and hinges
L161[00:28:29] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I want
L162[00:28:40] <S​ky> lol
L163[00:28:43] <S​ky> they sell everything
L164[00:28:48] <Mic​hiyo> Yeaaah, you can basically by their laptop peice by peice
L165[00:28:54] <Mic​hiyo> and then build it :P
L166[00:29:01] <S​ky> DIY edition with more steps :p
L167[00:30:30] <S​ky> >Michiyo: Yeaaah, you can basically by their laptop peice by peice
L168[00:30:30] <S​ky> ah, you can't quite
L169[00:30:30] <S​ky> apparently they havent gotten around to getting the antenna module and AMD cooling system on the marketplace yet
L170[00:30:42] <S​ky> I can understand the AMD cooling system because the AMD systems arent even released
L171[00:30:49] <S​ky> i wonder why they arent selling the antennas though
L172[00:31:02] <S​ky> Also, *oooooooh*
L173[00:31:02] <S​ky> https://i.skystuff.cc/4pR1lhkFLKqF.png
L174[00:31:18] <S​ky> bigger battery and matte display
L175[00:31:43] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, LTT was talking about that on their Computex video
L176[00:31:59] <S​ky> yeah
L177[00:32:13] <S​ky> I'd pay $20 more for more battery
L178[00:32:32] <S​ky> the display kits are the same price, so that's nice
L179[00:33:58] <S​ky> https://i.skystuff.cc/CrV2SAnupzhG.png
L180[00:34:04] <S​ky> who needs 80 decibel speakers on a laptop
L181[00:42:12] <Mic​hiyo> AH, the 6th Gen DL360 I have has 2 Xeon x5550's I think
L182[00:42:30] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, 2 8 core X5550's
L183[00:48:07] <Mic​hiyo> Bleh
L184[00:48:09] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Xeon-X5550-vs-Intel-Xeon-E3-1270/1300vs1204
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L187[02:31:37] <Amanda> Hey elfi, hop on my back, we're headed to the dream realm to find cute girls to be too embarrassed to flirt with!
L188[02:31:50] <Amanda> ( night girls)
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L190[04:46:16] <lili​rine> so botania 1.7 is a declaration of war against proper PNG file sizes
L191[04:46:41] <lili​rine> about 12MB of its textures is wasted space (photoshop metadata and thousands of whitespace for some reason)
L192[04:46:50] <lili​rine> it has about 13MB of textures in total.
L193[04:47:19] <lili​rine> the MAJORITY of 1.7.10 botania texture filesize? useless data.
L194[07:11:25] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L195[07:11:27] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Forec​aster! You beat PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)'s previous record of <0 (By 8 hours, 59 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L196[07:11:28] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 8 hours, 59 minutes and 38 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00899 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L200[08:53:30] <Forec​aster> This is interesting
L201[08:53:32] <Forec​aster> https://arstechnica.com/?p=1945750
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L204[11:22:15] <sobi​nary> >Forecaster: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1945750
L205[11:22:15] <sobi​nary> zebra
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L207[11:23:31] * Amanda meows and looks around
L208[11:43:04] <S​ky> >Forecaster: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1945750
L209[11:43:04] <S​ky> Wtf lmao
L210[11:48:19] * Amanda teaches Elfi how to recognize when you need to take the keyboard away from a bottom so they don't hit the key that causes global thermonuclear war
L211[11:49:36] <Forec​aster> why do you have that key
L212[11:49:48] <Amanda> Doesn't every keyboard have that key?
L213[11:50:00] <Forec​aster> no
L214[11:50:04] <Amanda> Oh
L215[11:50:14] <Amanda> Oh well, still a good skill to have
L216[11:52:09] <Forec​aster> I'd be tempted to press it anytime things are loading too slowly...
L217[11:54:07] <Amanda> (in the dream it was a normal keyboard running a program that hitting 'j' would do some unspecified bad global thing)
L218[11:55:08] <Amanda> I don't know why a bottom was in charge of whatever workstation that was a command on
L219[11:55:19] <Forec​aster> sounds like a bad labelling scheme
L220[11:55:42] <Amanda> But they had a chat program on another monitor
L221[11:56:18] <Amanda> So doing bottom password generating could cause unspecified bad thing to happen
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L227[12:26:07] <ar2​000> >Forecaster: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1945750
L228[12:26:07] <ar2​000> A good use for AI. That's not something a artist can easily do
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L233[15:14:54] <Va​ur> %sip
L234[15:14:56] <MichiBot> You drink a robust rainbow potion (New!). Vaur zones out for 2 minutes.
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L237[17:00:11] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L238[17:00:11] <MichiBot> Willikers! Compan​ionCube! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 8 hours, 59 minutes and 38 seconds (By 49 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L239[17:00:13] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 9 hours, 48 minutes and 45 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00738 (0.00082 x 9) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.00457758 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L240[17:27:51] <stephan48> @Forecaster, @Sky i think it was in the Watch Dogs games where you had to find and align QR codes in interesting solutions.
L241[17:36:22] <Forec​aster> Sounds plausible
L242[17:36:26] <Forec​aster> I can't remember
L243[18:05:50] <Forec​aster> %sip
L244[18:05:51] <MichiBot> You drink a redacted dirt potion (New!). Forecaster is suddenly wearing gloves they don't remember putting on.
L245[18:05:57] <Forec​aster> Weird
L246[18:30:53] <S​ky> %sip
L247[18:30:55] <MichiBot> You drink a steady iron potion (New!). Sky turns into an otter frog boy until they have some bacon.
L248[18:30:59] <S​ky> Oh
L249[18:46:55] <Forec​aster> You're an utter frog
L250[18:49:00] <CompanionCube> %drink
L251[18:49:01] <MichiBot> You drink a bald automato potion (New!). CompanionCube feels the need to smash. (%smash)
L252[18:49:09] <CompanionCube> %smash
L253[18:49:10] <MichiBot> CompanionCube smashes a bust. It's nose was too big anyway.
L254[18:49:21] <CompanionCube> rip bust
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L258[19:05:29] <Forec​aster> That was a nose? I thought it was a potato
L259[19:47:09] <CompanionCube> https://twitter.com/TheVendyMachine/status/1668955130010431489 lol
L260[19:47:38] <S​ky> thats amazing
L261[19:50:54] ⇦ Quits: paperluigis (~Thunderbi@176.118.112.246) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L262[19:51:54] <Amanda> Apparently from he comments it's a 5+ year old bug
L263[19:54:05] <Amanda> Which checks out for discord
L264[20:00:46] <Forec​aster> That's a prime example of an edge case
L265[20:53:48] * Amanda offers elfi some pizza futures
L266[21:01:13] ⇨ Joins: firegmawer (~firegmawe@nova-046-182-184-065.nat.novanet.is)
L267[21:01:40] <firegmawer> hello/
L268[21:01:44] <firegmawer> ?
L269[21:01:55] ⇦ Quits: firegmawer (~firegmawe@nova-046-182-184-065.nat.novanet.is) (Client Quit)
L270[21:19:11] ⇦ Quits: greaser|q (greaser@antihype.space) (Quit: HYDRA IRC LOL)
L271[21:28:32] <Amanda> Elfi: bad mews, the pizza futures crashed. But cheezburger is available now
L272[21:55:07] <Amanda> ... how do I exit fullscreen in Firefox. I don't have f11, please tell me there is another key combo
L273[21:57:03] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Escape?
L274[21:57:13] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Alt+F4?
L275[21:58:07] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Move your cursor over the tab bar, right click, and hit "Exit Full Screen Mode"
L276[21:58:22] <Amanda> escape doesnt work, I'd rather not have to restart my talky waves again
L277[21:58:44] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> Did the third option work?
L278[21:58:55] <Amanda> no mouse, it's on my pinephone, so only touch screen
L279[21:59:11] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> ~~You could plug a mouse into the pinephone~~
L280[22:00:33] <Amanda> not in a steak house far fromhome
L281[22:00:33] <Amanda> guess I'll justleave it full screen on that workspce
L282[22:45:07] * Saphire hums
L283[22:45:32] <Saphire> OC2 is neat... though wish the linux stuff was like, a gated extra instead of The Default Thing
L284[22:55:18] <Amanda> I think sangar was messing with one of those embedded lua things to try and make it more like oc1 but I don't think that went anywhre
L285[22:56:26] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> ~~Just use TIS-3D~~
L286[22:56:38] <techt​astic> CC Integration go BRRRR
L287[22:56:46] <techt​astic> https://tinyurl.com/296j33dl
L288[22:56:48] <techt​astic> the script, tho the bounds very for the peripheral numbers
L289[22:56:48] <techt​astic> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/axapobetav
L290[22:58:00] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> >Amanda: I think sangar was messing with one of those embedded lua things to try and make it more li…
L291[22:58:01] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I liked everything about OC1 except for the fact that it used Lua
L292[23:01:22] <Amanda> Diff'nt strokes and all that. I'm a serial polyglot, idk what language I'm codding in
L293[23:01:52] <Amanda> idc not dk
L294[23:02:59] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I'm picky about programming languages lol
L295[23:03:34] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I prefer working with strong static type systems for anything bigger than a one-off toy script
L296[23:06:19] <Amanda> I started my programming life with GameMaker Script nearly 20 years ago, Did c/c++ a bit, then php, then pretty much whatever I felt like
L297[23:09:34] <Amanda> Lately I've been mostly dealing with nix/yaml, because I've not had the spoons for much prgramming, so I've just been maintaining my ansible/nixos configs
L298[23:15:39] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I tried out nixos, and decided it wasn't quite for me. It breaks enough of the standard ways to do Linux things that I found its documentation kinda lacking
L299[23:16:55] <PwnagePineap​ple (He/Him)> I have Arch on one machine and Void on another at the moment
L300[23:37:20] <Amanda> I'm slowly phasiong it out' it's worn me down with my weekly updaes tending to also end up needing spoon investents
L301[23:40:45] <Amanda> my laptop now runs opensse tumbleweed, my servers all debian except for my nixos vm I'm slowly moving stuff out of
L302[23:41:56] <Amanda> openSUSE*
L303[23:46:26] <ar2​000> Anyone know a free hosting solution for a small db and a python program ?
L304[23:46:26] <ar2​000> I've been told oracle offer that, but I am looking for other solutions
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