L1[00:11:42] 
<Polo G> i
need help
<Polo G> i
need helpL2[00:18:29] <Izzy> ocelot is pretty neat,
actually
L3[00:21:05] * Amanda
curls up atop Elfi, contemplates zzzmews
L4[00:35:15] <Amanda> Right, time for
zzzmews
L5[00:35:18] <Amanda> Night girls
L6[00:35:33] <Izzy> huh, control actually
modified keycodes but alt and such you have to keep track of
yourself
L7[01:01:37] <TechTastic> %down
<TechTastic> %downL8[01:01:39] <MichiBot> You drink a dotted
aluminium potion (New!). TechTastic turns into an octiron golem
horse girl until someone looks at them.
L10[01:05:16] <Kleadron>
%potion
<Kleadron>
%potionL11[01:05:18] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You get
A Fluffy Emerald potion (New!)
L12[01:05:34] <Kleadron>
%drink
<Kleadron>
%drinkL13[01:05:39] <MichiBot> You drink a
shimmering coralcreep potion (New!). Kleadron barely manages to
catch a green shell that appears in front of them! (Rem. uses:
0)
L14[01:15:04] <Kleadron>
how many "window managers" or windowed environments exist
for OC so far?
<Kleadron>
how many "window managers" or windowed environments exist
for OC so far?L15[01:15:22] <Kleadron>
I tried making one in the past but I was too STUPID and DUMB to do
it then
<Kleadron>
I tried making one in the past but I was too STUPID and DUMB to do
it thenL16[01:21:34] <Kleadron>
I'm thinking about trying to make one again but I'm prototyping it
in CraftOS-PC first. It's going to be a program that sits on top of
the existing OS and provides an event based windowing API
<Kleadron>
I'm thinking about trying to make one again but I'm prototyping it
in CraftOS-PC first. It's going to be a program that sits on top of
the existing OS and provides an event based windowing APIL17[01:30:07] ⇦
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L18[01:37:10] <Izzy> Ocawesome mentioned
having one
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L21[03:41:25] <Izzy> ayy I've managed to
jank virtual terminals into existence
L22[03:59:44] <Kleadron>
I'm gonna need to add virtual terminals to my window manager
🤔
<Kleadron>
I'm gonna need to add virtual terminals to my window manager
🤔L23[04:00:19] <Izzy> with a T2 screen and
T3 GPU my PsychOS machine has 12 virtual terminals
L24[04:00:20] <Izzy> B)
L25[04:00:31] <Kleadron>
dear god
<Kleadron>
dear godL26[04:00:35] <Kleadron>
I forgot about PsychOS
<Kleadron>
I forgot about PsychOSL27[04:00:51] <Izzy> naturally my intention
is to fill a server to the gills with GPUs
L28[04:01:04] <Izzy> for as many virtual
terminals as I can get away with
L29[04:02:03] <Kleadron>
honestly I find tier 2 screens in OC to be the most comfortable
screen resolution
<Kleadron>
honestly I find tier 2 screens in OC to be the most comfortable
screen resolutionL30[04:02:07] <Izzy> same
L31[04:03:40] <Kleadron>
tier 3 gets mangled if you have a window size too small and if you
want to simulate bitmap graphics with braille characters the pixels
are so damn big
<Kleadron>
tier 3 gets mangled if you have a window size too small and if you
want to simulate bitmap graphics with braille characters the pixels
are so damn bigL32[04:07:31] <Kleadron>
I was actually considering making my window manager use bitmap
graphics but honestly that's just way too impractical and probably
slow
<Kleadron>
I was actually considering making my window manager use bitmap
graphics but honestly that's just way too impractical and probably
slowL33[04:07:42] <Kleadron>
though nothing stops you from drawing them in your window
yourself
<Kleadron>
though nothing stops you from drawing them in your window
yourselfL34[04:10:33] <Kleadron>
I'm gonna use the "pixel" characters to draw the window
frames in both OC and CC versions though and I think I'll make
resizable windows use thick borders because I couldn't find a good
"resize" character
<Kleadron>
I'm gonna use the "pixel" characters to draw the window
frames in both OC and CC versions though and I think I'll make
resizable windows use thick borders because I couldn't find a good
"resize" characterL36[04:14:30] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/0d1e.png
L37[04:15:06] <Izzy> you can move between
them with alt-< and alt->
L38[04:15:07] <Kleadron>
that's a neat program
<Kleadron>
that's a neat programL39[04:17:14] <Izzy> might fuck around with
a terminal server too
L40[04:17:28] <Izzy> one GPU for many
displays
L41[04:20:51] <Izzy> maybe I'll poke at
adding a status line to the PsychOS terminal emulator layer
too
L42[04:21:05] <Izzy> time, free memory,
number of processes
L43[04:21:17] <Izzy> would free up a little
bit of video memory if stuff wanted to use it too
L44[04:22:52] <Izzy> (as I'd only have to
make 80x24 buffers for the real contents of the display)
L45[04:24:47] <Izzy> only issue is that
this implementation really requires the video memory to ...
exist
L46[04:25:37] <Izzy> might end up making a
wrapper for the vtansi library that just loads the correct version
based on whether video memory is a thing
L47[04:26:28] <Izzy> hmhmhm
L48[04:29:00] <Izzy> oops I crashed
ocelot
L49[04:31:45] <Izzy> also an interesting
idea: a vty level program that can be used to do system
management
L50[04:32:19] <Izzy> so you'd hit a key
combo and it'd save the current buffer to video memory and draw
stuff
L51[05:19:42] <Izzy> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/e8df.png
L52[05:19:51] <Izzy> cc Amanda and
@Ocawesome101 I guess
L53[05:40:48] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL54[05:40:48] <MichiBot> Awesome! Vaur!
You beat PwnagePineapple (He/Him)'s previous record of 4 hours, 12
minutes and 17 seconds (By 1 hour, 34 minutes and 35 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L55[05:40:49] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record
is 5 hours, 46 minutes and 53 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0079
(0.00158 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need
0.00586481 more points to pass CompanionCube!
L56[06:26:18] <Ocawesome101> izzy: nice
<Ocawesome101> izzy: niceL57[06:39:31] <Izzy> this is finally a
reason to bother with T3 hardware for me
L58[06:39:39] <Izzy> T3 GPU gives me 12
virtual terminals
L59[06:39:41] <Izzy> B)
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L61[07:13:38] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L62[10:20:15] <Kleadron>
I'm going to beat the creators of lua over the head for making
things start from 1
<Kleadron>
I'm going to beat the creators of lua over the head for making
things start from 1L63[10:56:58] <PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> %tonk
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> %tonkL64[10:56:58] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
PwnagePineapple (He/Him), you were not able to beat Vaur's record
of 5 hours, 46 minutes and 53 seconds this time. 5 hours, 16
minutes and 9 seconds were wasted! Missed by 30 minutes and 43
seconds!
L65[10:57:11] <PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> Ah no I did a
math bad
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> Ah no I did a
math badL66[11:03:44] <Forecaster> time for some more auto pilot
work
<Forecaster> time for some more auto pilot
workL67[11:20:06] <Forecaster> wait no, this is mining it
turns out
<Forecaster> wait no, this is mining it
turns outL68[12:19:17] <Amanda> @Kleadron it was a
concious decision to let it make more sense to people who don't
program for a living. To let map makers in a game for example
program simple logic
L69[12:19:47] <Amanda> only computers start
at 0, humans start at 1
L70[12:20:12] <Forecaster> except if you've trained
yourself to think like a computer
<Forecaster> except if you've trained
yourself to think like a computerL71[12:20:56] <Forecaster> but who would do such a thing
beep boop
<Forecaster> but who would do such a thing
beep boopL72[12:21:02] <Amanda> Anyway, C arrays
starting at 0 is only a side-effect of them just being secret
pointer maths
L73[12:21:55] <AR2000>
The array "index" is technically an offset. That's why it
starts at 0 usually
<AR2000>
The array "index" is technically an offset. That's why it
starts at 0 usuallyL74[12:28:35] <Forecaster> I aspire to be an offset
someday
<Forecaster> I aspire to be an offset
somedayL75[14:05:28] <Forecaster> 160 tons of LTD in a run,
that's a new record
<Forecaster> 160 tons of LTD in a run,
that's a new recordL76[14:07:05] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL77[14:07:05] <MichiBot> You drink a muddy
crimson potion (New!). The bottle turns into a honey spear.
L78[14:54:56] <asie> there will be an OC
1.8.2 this month
L79[14:55:03] <asie> there's another
regression, and also some unrelated minor fixes
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L81[15:30:42] <trbc2> uhh hi im new
L82[15:35:33] <Forecaster> Hi new, this is oc
<Forecaster> Hi new, this is ocL83[16:11:06] ⇦
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L84[16:29:31] <Forecaster> Bye new, this has been your
daily dose of OC
<Forecaster> Bye new, this has been your
daily dose of OCL85[16:30:42] <Amanda> Catch them! They're
stealing our OC!
L86[16:45:20] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL87[16:45:20] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks!
Vaur! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 46 minutes and
53 seconds (By 1 minute and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L88[16:45:21] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.78219,
Position #3 => #2 (Overtook CompanionCube) Need 0.07212239 more
points to pass Forecaster!
L89[16:45:40] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL90[16:45:41] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy
pussplum potion (New!). Vaur barely manages to catch a red shell
that appears in front of them! (Rem. uses: 2)
L91[16:56:05] <Vaur> %sip
gloopy pussplum potion
<Vaur> %sip
gloopy pussplum potionL92[16:56:06] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy
pussplum potion. Vaur barely manages to catch a red shell that
appears in front of them! (Rem. uses: 1)
L93[17:04:31] <𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> jo need help at my
code https://tinyurl.com/2ns7ka4m<𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣
<3> jo need help at my code https://tinyurl.com/2jnyj2yh
<𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> jo need help at my
code https://tinyurl.com/2ns7ka4m<𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣
<3> jo need help at my code https://tinyurl.com/2jnyj2yhL94[17:05:19] <𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> i also tried to
get the component with the get method but its give me error as
well
<𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> i also tried to
get the component with the get method but its give me error as
wellL96[17:06:29] <Vaur> %sip
gloopy pussplum potion
<Vaur> %sip
gloopy pussplum potionL97[17:06:30] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy
pussplum potion. Vaur barely manages to catch a red shell that
appears in front of them! (Rem. uses: 0)
L98[17:07:00] <Vaur>
@𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3 is that component exist and connected to the
computer ?
<Vaur>
@𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3 is that component exist and connected to the
computer ?L99[17:07:15] <𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> yes
<𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> yesL100[17:07:20] <stephan48> asie: thank you
for your continued work :)
L102[17:09:03] <fingercomp> it says it
doesn't have such method
L103[17:09:18] <fingercomp> try running
`components -l ir_remote_control | less` in the openos shell
L104[17:09:25] <Vaur> >
setBrake(number): Sets the brake to a value between 0 and 1
<Vaur> >
setBrake(number): Sets the brake to a value between 0 and 1L105[17:09:26] <fingercomp> it'll list all
its methods
L106[17:09:30] <Vaur>
there is your issue
<Vaur>
there is your issueL107[17:09:46] <Vaur> at
least in your first code
<Vaur> at
least in your first codeL108[17:10:16] <Vaur>
second code I'm going to wildly bet that this isn't the component
adress (specially if you dont enter the full one that was given to
you)
<Vaur>
second code I'm going to wildly bet that this isn't the component
adress (specially if you dont enter the full one that was given to
you)L110[17:12:03] <𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> omg
<𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> omgL111[17:12:05] <𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> nvm
<𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> nvmL112[17:12:13] <𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> miss speleed
something -.-
<𝓓𝓮𝓻𝓩𝓮𝓻𝓼??𝓸𝓻𝓮𝓻𝓨𝓣 <3> miss speleed
something -.-L113[17:13:35] <nil> you
can have it put the adresses in a text file for easy copying
<nil> you
can have it put the adresses in a text file for easy copyingL114[17:13:53] <asie> I'm workign on some
OpenOS cleanup for 1.8.2 but it magically broke everything
lmaoo
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L116[17:22:25] <asie> I'm sure I've asked
this before, but since a bunch of people are here
L117[17:22:32] <asie> any loot disks to
add/remove? since 1.8.2 may well be the final release in some
time
L118[17:25:09] <asie> IIRC print3d was in
the "add" pile
L119[17:25:18] <asie> and plan9k in the
"remove" pile
L120[17:25:28] <asie> (though I don't
think removing disks before 1.16 is a good idea)
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L122[17:47:09] <BadCoder> imo yeah
L123[17:47:16] <BadCoder> removing disks
is a bad idea
L124[17:47:45] <asie> removing yes
L125[17:47:49] <asie> but removing from
the spawn list should be finer
L126[17:47:50] <asie> fine*
L127[17:56:34] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL128[17:56:35] <MichiBot> You drink an
endless tiberium potion (New!). The bottle turns into a currentcorn
sling.
L129[18:19:58] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL130[18:19:59] <MichiBot> You drink a
dusty pearlpeas potion (New!). Vaur's clothes turn the color of the
sky for 9 moons.
L131[18:21:55] <Ocawesome101> asie: ULOS 2 perhaps?
network enabled unix-like with a functional package manager and
various other niceties :>
<Ocawesome101> asie: ULOS 2 perhaps?
network enabled unix-like with a functional package manager and
various other niceties :>L132[18:22:05] <Ocawesome101> and vaguely
maintained
<Ocawesome101> and vaguely
maintainedL133[18:35:23] <asie> I'd rather not add
custom OSes to upstream; plan9k caused more trouble than it was
worth when it was abandoned
L134[18:35:27] <asie> programs for OpenOS
yes, OSes no
L135[18:37:50] <AR2000> I
could suggest my package manager. But since no one uses it I'm not
sure it's a good idea. I do plan to support it if ppl use it
<AR2000> I
could suggest my package manager. But since no one uses it I'm not
sure it's a good idea. I do plan to support it if ppl use itL136[18:39:42] <AR2000> I
have an install floppy ready (but not published on my repo
yet)
<AR2000> I
have an install floppy ready (but not published on my repo
yet)L137[18:39:51] <asie> browsing the files
of OpenPrograms, maybe something like @Vexatos's
drone-control?
L138[18:40:12] <asie> I think
OpenComputers should come with more software that makes its
built-in features usable
L139[18:40:41] <asie> so print3d,
drone-control, stuff like that
L140[18:40:55] <asie> my other concern is:
what if an user wants to install a program from OPPM that also
comes on a loot disk
L141[18:41:45] <AR2000>
Make the loot disk write in oppm config's file
<AR2000>
Make the loot disk write in oppm config's fileL142[18:43:29] <asie> if that's a concern
at all... the other disks just don't have installers :P
L143[18:45:09] <AR2000>
Maybe an alternative editor. I think there is one in oppm
too.
<AR2000>
Maybe an alternative editor. I think there is one in oppm
too.L144[18:45:58] <Vexatos> I don't even
remember how specialized my drone program is
L145[18:47:09] <asie> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Vexatos-Programs/blob/master/dronecontrol/bin/drone-control.lua
it's just a bootloader
L146[18:47:24] <AR2000> Hi
@Vexatos
<AR2000> Hi
@VexatosL147[18:47:24] <AR2000>
While we talk about loot disks, could you check the PR I made
months ago to fix a bug in oppm ?
<AR2000>
While we talk about loot disks, could you check the PR I made
months ago to fix a bug in oppm ?L148[18:47:45] <Vexatos> well I used this
in 2019 and it still worked so
L149[18:48:11] <asie> it's more that I'm
trying to figure out what is worth including upstream as loot
L150[18:48:59] <Vexatos> @AR2000 I took a
quick look when you made it and you deepcopied way more than should
be correct but I didn't have the time to look any further into
it
L151[18:50:45] <AR2000> A
shallow copy might have been enough. But I didn't want to risk
another similar bug
<AR2000> A
shallow copy might have been enough. But I didn't want to risk
another similar bugL152[18:53:22] <fingercomp> in ocelot
we've encountered the following issue with the internet card
https://gitlab.com/cc-ru/ocelot/ocelot-brain/-/issues/20
L153[18:53:38] <fingercomp> I think
OpenComputers may be affected as well, since the code is
identical
L154[18:53:53] <fingercomp> it happened
several times, but I have not idea how to repro this...
L155[18:54:48] <fingercomp> I'd just add a
catch clause for CancelledKeyException there so it at least doesn't
bring the while notifier thread down
L156[18:56:47] <asie> this would happen if
close() happened while the thread didn't catch the memo
L157[19:44:26] <Ocawesome101> asie: fair enough tbh
<Ocawesome101> asie: fair enough tbhL158[20:23:48] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL159[20:23:48] <MichiBot> Eh! Vaur! You
beat your own previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 38 minutes and
27 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L160[20:23:49] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 3 hours, 38 minutes and 27 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00364)
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L162[20:42:30] <Amanda> %choose
waves>/
L163[20:42:30] <MichiBot> Amanda: I'm
going to pretend I didn't hear that.
L164[20:46:00]
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())
L167[21:59:05] <Amanda> %choose waves or
hallucinate or rain box
L168[21:59:06] <MichiBot> Amanda: My
grandfather always told me that "waves" is the way to
go!
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L170[23:08:45] <Izzy> asie: minitel for
the add pile B)
L171[23:14:59] <MGR> Yeah,
I'd be happy to chip in with GERTi as well
<MGR> Yeah,
I'd be happy to chip in with GERTi as wellL172[23:27:54] <SwellLobster338> hi everyone, does anyone
have the 1.16.5 OC2 jar? I can't find it anywhere 😦
<SwellLobster338> hi everyone, does anyone
have the 1.16.5 OC2 jar? I can't find it anywhere 😦L173[23:31:35] <Izzy> I would point you at
the CI but it looks to be gone
L175[23:38:19] <Ocawesome101> github actions maybe?
<Ocawesome101> github actions maybe?L176[23:39:31] <MGR>
jenkins is down for me too
<MGR>
jenkins is down for me tooL177[23:39:37] <MGR>
Interesting
<MGR>
InterestingL178[23:39:41] <Ocawesome101> that got taken down a while
ago
<Ocawesome101> that got taken down a while
agoL179[23:39:52] <Ocawesome101> they switched to GH actions
for all the mods
<Ocawesome101> they switched to GH actions
for all the modsL180[23:39:55] <MGR> Fair
enough. I haven't checked in at least a year, lol
<MGR> Fair
enough. I haven't checked in at least a year, lolL181[23:40:05] <Ocawesome101> "they" being
sangar and whoever else administrates that
<Ocawesome101> "they" being
sangar and whoever else administrates thatL182[23:40:13] <Ocawesome101> asie probably
<Ocawesome101> asie probablyL184[23:42:34] <SwellLobster338> https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708
<SwellLobster338> https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708L185[23:42:53] <MGR> I'm
pretty sure that OC2 is a different repository
<MGR> I'm
pretty sure that OC2 is a different repositoryL186[23:43:19] <SwellLobster338> >MGR: I'm pretty sure
that OC2 is a different repository
<SwellLobster338> >MGR: I'm pretty sure
that OC2 is a different repositoryL187[23:43:19] <SwellLobster338> on OC2 same thing
<SwellLobster338> on OC2 same thingL188[23:43:27] <MGR> Ah,
that is unfortunate
<MGR> Ah,
that is unfortunate