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L1[00:00:25] <stephan48> Thistle? HCF?
L2[00:03:04] <Elfi> Thistle is a 6502 core
for OC, and HCF is "Halt and Catch Fire"
L3[00:04:14] <Elfi> I pulled up the repo and
I cannot find an HCF in the instruction table
L4[00:09:50] <Amanda> Might have been part
of one of my weird dreams then
L5[00:23:48] ⇦
Quits: Vexatos
(~Vexatos@p200300eaef0baf4772adc39b3f23b5dc.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
(Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L6[00:35:27] * Amanda
curls back up around Elfi, teaches her the secret wing-flutter
patterns to generate infinite coffee
L8[00:38:09] <lunar_sam> a
L9[00:38:38] <lunar_sam> still coming along
but today i got somewhere close to getting closures to work
L10[00:38:56] <lunar_sam> upvalues are
still not correctly implemented and neither are literally any
metamethods
L11[01:11:37] <stephan48> Elfi:
thanks
L12[01:58:47]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> %tonk
L13[01:58:47] <MichiBot> Bingo!
walksanator. B⃢ot.! You beat RedstoneParkour's previous record of
4 hours, 37 minutes and 38 seconds (By 24 minutes and 8 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L14[01:58:48] <MichiBot> walksanator.
B⃢ot.'s new record is 5 hours, 1 minute and 47 seconds!
walksanator. B⃢ot. also gained 0.002 (0.0004 x 5) tonk points for
stealing the tonk. Position #12 => #11. (Overtook
PwnagePineapple) Need 0.00078 more points to pass
TechTastic!
L15[01:59:26]
<TechTastic> Fuck
L16[01:59:38]
<TechTastic> I was just verifying it was
time XD
L17[02:21:34] *
Amanda meows sleepily to elfi about her day doing ghetto electrical
engineering then tearing apart the basement more
L18[02:21:56] <Elfi> oh boy, the best kind
of electrical engineering
L19[02:22:10] * Elfi
is perpetually trying to flutter coffee into existence
L20[02:22:43] <Amanda> We cut an extension
cord in half then attached a wall socket to one end!
L21[02:23:06] <Amanda> But hey, now the OTN
thingy from Verizon in the basement is also plugged into the ups I
bought
L22[02:23:52] *
Amanda lays her head on elfi, does a heccen zzzmew
L23[02:24:11] <Amanda> Night girls and
others
L24[02:26:18] <stephan48> sleep well!
L25[03:23:17]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I have the OpenFM addon
installed and im curious what can I do with a radio
L26[03:26:17]
<Michiyo>
You can play .mp3 files, and (some) streaming radio
L27[03:26:44]
<Michiyo>
I've not done anything with it in years though, so it's likely the
internet has moved on from icecast vorbis streaming audio
L28[03:27:32]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >Michiyo: You can
play .mp3 files, and (some) streaming radio
L29[03:27:33]
<DiamondCreeper_6> how do I stream
radio
L30[03:27:44]
<Michiyo>
you give it a radio stream URL
L31[03:28:00]
<DiamondCreeper_6> hmm. where can i find a
stream URL
L32[03:28:31]
<DiamondCreeper_6> and do I have to power
it/hook it up to a OC computer in order to work?
L33[03:29:06]
<Michiyo>
You don't *HAVE* to, but it does have OC and CC API support so you
can control it
L34[03:29:33]
<Michiyo>
And you just have to go find some streaming radio site, most of
them will give you a URL you can plug into a media player, it may,
or may not, work in OpenFM
L35[03:29:52]
<DiamondCreeper_6> Idk how to find one, Im
dumb af XD
L36[03:30:03]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> what CC api?
L37[03:30:07]
<DiamondCreeper_6> ill try looking one up,
does twitch work?
L38[03:30:11]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> is OpenFM a addon mod
L39[03:30:21]
<Michiyo>
>DiamondCreeper_6: ill try looking one up, does twitch
work?
L40[03:30:21]
<Michiyo>
No, nor does Youtube, or anything like that
L41[03:30:22]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >walksanator. B⃢ot.:
is OpenFM a addon mod
L42[03:30:22]
<DiamondCreeper_6> its an addon mods for
OC
L43[03:30:22] <Izzy> streaming audio, not
video
L45[03:30:46]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> ah if you were using CC with Computronics you could try
youcube
L47[03:31:04]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> it uses yt-dlp so it can use... alot of sites
L48[03:31:36]
<Michiyo>
OpenFM is a mod, that can be used as an addon for OC and CC. Unlike
the rest of my mods that are direct addons for OC
L49[03:31:47]
<Michiyo>
but it can also be 100% standalone
L51[03:32:40]
<Michiyo>
this is unlikely to work as it's AAC, but I'd be happy to be
wrong.
L52[03:32:56] <Izzy> they also have an MP3
version I think
L53[03:33:06] <Izzy> it was just what I
have in cantata
L54[03:33:18]
<Michiyo>
If the link I posted works then
https://dir.xiph.org/ you can
right click the "Play" links and copy the link and paste
it into the URL bar in the UI
L55[03:33:54]
<DiamondCreeper_6> thanks dude!
L56[03:34:15]
<Michiyo>
Let me know if it still works.. like I said it's been years since
I've touched it
L58[03:34:24]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I clicked on this and
It downloaded a file, what do I do with it
L59[03:34:29]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >Michiyo: Let me
know if it still works.. like I said it's been years since I've
touched it
L60[03:34:29]
<DiamondCreeper_6> it works
L61[03:34:34]
<Michiyo>
\o/
L62[03:34:56] <Izzy> you may be able to
paste the link into OpenFM, might need to replace 'aac' with 'mp3'
though
L63[03:35:07]
<Michiyo>
If you want to try Izzy's link then just copy / paste it
L64[03:35:12]
<Michiyo>
What Izzy said :P
L65[03:35:22]
<DiamondCreeper_6> paste it in what
file
L66[03:35:46]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I need a file path to
place it in so I can make it work
L67[03:35:56] <Izzy> it's a link
L68[03:35:58] <Izzy> paste the LINK
L69[03:36:53]
<DiamondCreeper_6> alright
L70[03:37:28]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I clicked on the link
and it downloaded this strange file and was wondering where to put
it but ill try just copying the link instead of clicking on
it
L71[03:40:10]
<DiamondCreeper_6> so then what does the
speaker do in OpenFM?
L72[03:41:25]
<Michiyo>
You link it with the... whatever I called the linking tool, and it
will play sound from that location as well. So you can cover my
area with a single radio
L74[03:42:03]
<DiamondCreeper_6> pasted the link and it
made my game freeze completely
L75[03:42:33] <Izzy> I take it it doesn't
support AAC then :D
L76[03:42:47]
<DiamondCreeper_6> yup
L77[03:43:05]
<Michiyo>
Audio playback in Java is... a massive PITA
L78[03:43:19]
<DiamondCreeper_6> had to use task manager
to close the game completely
L79[03:43:28]
<Michiyo>
MP3 and OGG were all I could ever get working well
L80[03:43:47]
<DiamondCreeper_6> you were the creator of
the addon!?
L81[03:43:49]
<Michiyo>
it *SHOULD* have tried for ~30 seconds then barfed an error on the
console and not killed your game
L82[03:43:53]
<Michiyo>
Yes.
L83[03:44:03]
<DiamondCreeper_6> Ah!
L84[03:44:25]
<DiamondCreeper_6> so I guess i cant play
that streaming platform instead I use the first link you sent
me
L85[03:44:31]
<DiamondCreeper_6> to make it work
L86[03:44:51]
<Michiyo>
anything that streams in mp3 or ogg *should* work
L87[03:45:13]
<Michiyo> I
know that sometimes streams can insert ads in a way that breaks the
stream, but you should just have to hit stop and then play
again
L88[03:45:27]
<DiamondCreeper_6> Is there a mp3 radio
station link that plays dubstep music nonstop?
L89[03:46:46]
<DiamondCreeper_6> just curious
L90[03:47:50] <Izzy> probably, but I hope
not
L91[03:48:02]
<DiamondCreeper_6> aw cmon I love
dubstep
L92[03:48:27]
<DiamondCreeper_6> one of my favorite
electronic music genres
L93[03:48:55]
<Michiyo>
>DiamondCreeper_6: Is there a mp3 radio station link that plays
dubstep music nonstop?
L94[03:48:55]
<Michiyo>
I'm sure you can find one that does, but I don't know of one off
hand, and I'm not googling it :P
L95[03:49:19]
<Michiyo>
Just make sure that they give you a direct link to the stream, and
not just some web player.
L96[03:50:44]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >Michiyo: Just make
sure that they give you a direct link to the stream, and not just
some we…
L97[03:50:44]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I bet im not gonna
notice that and do something stupid that will crash my game 😂
L98[03:51:11] <Izzy> face_with_tears_of_joy
seems a little off for the game crashing but carry on
L99[03:51:52]
<DiamondCreeper_6> its more like a
laughing emoji tbh
L100[03:52:29]
<DiamondCreeper_6> hope it doesnt freeze
my game completely once I join my world
L101[03:53:08]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> @TechTastic i am starting work on the parser module
L102[03:53:35]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >Michiyo: You link
it with the... whatever I called the linking tool, and it will play
sound …
L103[03:53:36]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I dont get it, do I put
in a custom sound or something?
L104[03:54:05]
<Michiyo>
what?
L105[03:54:18]
<Michiyo>
The speaker is just a speaker. You link it to the radio and it
plays the same thing the radio is playing
L106[03:55:06]
<Michiyo>
There is a tool, of some sort, I have no idea what I called it back
then, you (sneak?) click the radio and the speaker.
L107[03:55:22]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I guess its a waste of
resources to craft it then
L108[03:55:44]
<DiamondCreeper_6> Because the radio
itself is acting like a speaker rn
L109[03:55:45]
<Michiyo>
Well, if you don't want to hear the sound from further away, then
yes.
L110[03:56:07]
<DiamondCreeper_6> Oh! so its a sound
extender?
L111[03:56:10]
<Michiyo>
The radio will always be a speaker, but it has a range
L112[03:56:56]
<Michiyo>
and yes, like a range extender
L113[03:58:29]
<DiamondCreeper_6> looked linking tool in
JEI and it didnt pop up with the item
L114[03:58:35]
<DiamondCreeper_6> whats the exact item
name?
L115[03:59:40]
<Michiyo>
*shrug* have I mentioned I've not touched this mod in
*years*?
L116[04:00:03]
<Michiyo>
"RadioTuner"?
L117[04:00:05]
<Michiyo>
maybe?
L118[04:00:11]
<DiamondCreeper_6> Found it! worked!
L119[04:00:21]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >Michiyo:
"RadioTuner"?
L120[04:00:21]
<DiamondCreeper_6> thanks
L121[04:00:44]
<Michiyo>
Seriously though, the last non "add some translation BS"
commit was 2018
L122[04:00:49]
<Michiyo>
and it was fixing broken CC compat
L123[04:01:00]
<DiamondCreeper_6> what does CC stand
for?
L124[04:01:01]
<Michiyo>
2017 was the last bugfix
L125[04:01:04]
<Michiyo>
ComputerCraft
L126[04:01:08]
<DiamondCreeper_6> ah
L127[04:01:10]
<Michiyo>
the *other* lua Computer mod
L128[04:01:33]
<DiamondCreeper_6> the PCs in that mod are
too easy to craft
L129[04:01:44]
<DiamondCreeper_6> and confusing to
navigate through
L130[04:06:05]
<DiamondCreeper_6> also Im trying to see
what the alarm block does in OpenSecurity
L131[04:06:11]
<DiamondCreeper_6> just installed it
XD
L132[04:07:06]
<DiamondCreeper_6> sorry for too many
questions
L133[04:08:03]
<Michiyo>
It's an alarm.. :D
L135[04:08:34]
<Michiyo>
There is also a tab in the ingame OC manual
L136[04:12:31]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I see in the wiki that
custom sounds for the alarm can be put in:
L137[04:12:32]
<DiamondCreeper_6>
minecraft/mods/OpenSecurity/assets/opensecurity/sounds/alarms
L138[04:12:44]
<DiamondCreeper_6> but im curious what
type of files will it accept
L139[04:12:50]
<DiamondCreeper_6> mp3? OGG?
L140[04:14:41]
<Forecaster> wav works I believe
L141[04:20:27]
<DiamondCreeper_6> then I guess ill have
to search up for those junk files
L142[04:20:34]
<DiamondCreeper_6> that I have
L143[04:27:54]
<DiamondCreeper_6> how do I deactivate the
alarm
L144[04:28:08]
<DiamondCreeper_6> tried to put false
inside () and it didnt work
L145[04:30:48]
<DiamondCreeper_6> how do I set an
alarm
L146[04:30:56]
<DiamondCreeper_6> using th stealarm()
command
L147[04:35:21]
<Michiyo>
Read the wiki?
L148[04:35:32]
<Michiyo>
It gives you the methods, and an example
L149[04:39:00]
<Forecaster> Psh, reading is for
nerds!
L150[04:39:36] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> kickflips off a cliff with eagles in the
background
L151[04:46:17]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >Michiyo: Read the
wiki?
L152[04:46:18]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I didnt say how
L153[04:47:12]
<Michiyo>
Except the part that literally tells you how
L154[04:47:13]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I just put in the sound
name and it gave me a bunch of text errors
L155[04:47:32]
<DiamondCreeper_6> followed the exact
example
L156[04:47:39]
<Forecaster> Not the text errors!
L157[04:47:48]
<Forecaster> Those are the worst!
L158[04:48:18]
<Michiyo>
Crystal Ball is in the ship, if you want help with errors post
then
L159[04:48:20]
<Michiyo>
Them..
L160[04:48:25]
<Michiyo>
Also I'm cooking sooooo
L161[04:48:43]
<DiamondCreeper_6> do I just send a
screenshot then
L162[04:50:01]
<Michiyo>
No, I want you to painstakingly perfectly type out exactly the
error message.
L163[04:50:07]
<Michiyo>
Or, yes, screenshot
L164[04:50:12]
<Michiyo>
Ya know which ever is easier
L166[04:51:10]
<DiamondCreeper_6> this is all i get
L167[04:51:37]
<Michiyo>
Did you *actually* follow *exactly* what it says on the wiki?
L168[04:51:47]
<Michiyo>
Ya know.... EXACTLY?
L169[04:52:01]
<DiamondCreeper_6> do i need to put in the
sound name in between the ""?
L170[04:52:04]
<Michiyo>
alarm.setAlarm("klaxon2")
L171[04:52:10]
<Michiyo>
Idk.. what looks different?
L172[04:52:24]
<Michiyo>
Also the error says it wants a string
L173[04:52:31]
<Michiyo>
And you gave it nothing
L174[04:52:51]
<Michiyo>
Because you told it to get the value of the variable klaxon2...
which I'm assuming doesn't exist?
L175[04:57:36]
<Forecaster> This is painful to
watch
L176[04:58:55]
<DiamondCreeper_6> fixed it
L177[04:59:05]
<DiamondCreeper_6> now time to add the
custom alarm sounds!
L178[05:00:14]
<Michiyo>
I'm 90% sure it can only do ogg, as it uses the default minecraft
audio system
L179[05:00:33]
<Michiyo> I
cant find the code that adds the sounds to the hash map on my phone
though
L180[05:00:40]
<DiamondCreeper_6> just used a mp3 to ogg
converter to convert the sound file to a ogg file
L181[05:06:18]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I have 182 mods loaded!
😈
L182[05:12:37]
<Forecaster> I'm not sure why that's
relevant
L183[05:13:42]
<Forecaster> %sip
L184[05:13:43] <MichiBot> You drink a safe
automato potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a grathnode platypus
girl until they see a bird.
L185[05:13:58]
<Forecaster> Time to go bird
watching
L186[05:23:09]
<DiamondCreeper_6> so what is your
healpful tip on how to find a radio station stream thats an
mp3
L187[05:30:39]
<Forecaster> google
L188[05:40:25]
<DiamondCreeper_6> google didnt help me
for shit unfortunately
L189[05:41:11]
<Forecaster> google harder!
L190[05:41:16]
<Michiyo>
Find a site that list streams.... then see if they are ogg/mp3 or
other. I'm not going to do the work for you.
L191[05:41:48]
<Michiyo>
download something like VLC or whatever, plug the stream URL into
it, check the codec info it'll tell you what it is
L192[05:45:28]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >Forecaster: google
harder!
L193[05:45:28]
<DiamondCreeper_6> still never
helps!!
L194[05:45:43]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >Michiyo: download
something like VLC or whatever, plug the stream URL into it, check
the cod…
L195[05:45:43]
<DiamondCreeper_6> alright! will do!
L196[05:46:09]
<Forecaster> never? I guess we can throw
google away then, it's useless
L197[05:46:46]
<DiamondCreeper_6> I tried googling
dubstep radio station streams and all it did is give me garbage
sites
L198[05:47:20]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >Michiyo: If the
link I posted works then
https://dir.xiph.org/ you can right
click the "Play…
L199[05:47:20]
<DiamondCreeper_6> that dont lead me to
links like this
L201[05:50:13]
<DiamondCreeper_6> also sorry to ping you
twice Michiyo Xd
L202[05:50:19] ⇦
Quits: Michiyo (~Michiyo@50.39.216.251) (Quit:
Leaving)
L203[05:50:33]
<Michiyo>
I'm just going to kill Discord and IRC, so no worries...
L204[05:50:41]
<DiamondCreeper_6> what is IRC?
L205[05:50:46] <CompanionCube> lol
L206[05:51:00]
<Forecaster> it's a shame we got rid of
google
L207[05:51:08]
<DiamondCreeper_6> sorry im brain dead
atm
L208[05:52:29]
<Forecaster> I'm always braindead, but I
don't let that stop me from kickflipping off of cliffs
L209[05:52:48]
<DiamondCreeper_6> XD
L210[05:52:57]
<DiamondCreeper_6> you gonna die from
that
L211[05:53:06]
<DiamondCreeper_6> because of fall
damage
L212[05:53:41]
<DiamondCreeper_6> and why are you gonna
kill discord!?
L213[05:53:49]
<DiamondCreeper_6> Michiyo?
L214[05:53:57]
<Forecaster> she's already left...
L215[05:54:23]
<DiamondCreeper_6> she quit admin?
L216[05:54:28]
<DiamondCreeper_6> 😓
L217[05:54:34]
<Forecaster> ...no
L218[05:54:40]
<Forecaster> she closed discord
L219[05:54:52]
<DiamondCreeper_6> ah
L220[05:55:21]
<DiamondCreeper_6> so what charactor is
your pfp from?
L221[05:55:40]
<Forecaster> I dunno, some thing or
something
L222[05:55:46]
<DiamondCreeper_6> damn
L223[05:56:04]
<DiamondCreeper_6> guess i shall copy the
image and use google lens
L224[05:56:17]
<DiamondCreeper_6> to find out
L225[05:57:29]
<DiamondCreeper_6> damn it
L226[05:57:35]
<DiamondCreeper_6> it didnt save the
actual image
L227[06:03:02]
<Forecaster> unfortunate
L228[07:24:38]
<DiamondCreeper_6> >Forecaster:
unfortunate
L229[07:24:39]
<DiamondCreeper_6> do you have the link to
the image?
L230[07:24:59]
<Forecaster> nope
L231[07:35:54] <CompanionCube>
%tonkout
L232[07:35:54] <MichiBot> Yippee!
CompanionCube! You beat walksanator. B⃢ot.'s previous record of 5
hours, 1 minute and 47 seconds (By 35 minutes and 20 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L233[07:35:55] <MichiBot> CompanionCube
has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk
points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.480415. Position #2 => #1
(Overtook Forecaster)
L234[07:36:29] <CompanionCube>
%drink
L235[07:36:29] <MichiBot> You drink an
endless red potion (New!). CompanionCube's nails turn the color of
octiron until they have a tan potion.
L236[07:36:34] <CompanionCube> I
see.
L237[07:39:00]
<Forecaster> I'll help! %splash
CompanionCube tan
L238[07:39:00] <MichiBot> You fling an
oxidised tan potion (New!) that splashes onto CompanionCube.
Sitting down suddenly seems like a really terrible idea.
L239[08:15:10]
<Vaur>
%sip
L240[08:15:10] <MichiBot> You drink a
forked radiation potion (New!). Vaur's toes turn invisible for 10
moons.
L241[09:01:10]
⇨ Joins: Vexatos
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L242[09:01:10]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L243[11:35:26]
<Agitated
Alice> Hmm, my friend who has zero interest in minecraft has
suddenly taken an interest in figuring out if we can hook into
forge through JNI because i was sad over not being able to write
minecraft mods with C
L244[11:36:06]
<Agitated
Alice> %drink
L245[11:36:06] <MichiBot> You drink a dull
oculemon potion (New!). Wheels are briefly square.
L246[11:36:15]
<Agitated
Alice> hey thats just minecraft wtf
L247[11:55:17]
<Forecaster> now now, no need to become
agitated
L248[11:55:24]
<Forecaster> besides, minecraft has round
wheels
L249[11:55:45]
<RedstoneParkour> thats def possible, as
oc uses an external dll for lua
L250[12:05:53] <Amanda> A mod in JNI would
be extremely slow. The java <-> C translation is
expensive
L251[12:07:12] <Amanda> Also I'm pretty
sure you'd still need to write some java for it
L252[12:09:18] *
Amanda meows and looks around, wonders who took all her
blankets
L253[12:09:33]
<Forecaster> it was the blanket
gremlins!
L254[12:10:11] <Amanda> Damn blanket
gremlins, I thought we had a deal, they're supposed to steal
@Inari's blankets instead of mine!
L255[12:14:29]
<Forecaster> yes, how strange that they
broke that agreement...
L256[12:14:39]
<Forecaster> it can't have been because
someone bribed them or anything
L257[12:14:51] *
Amanda eyes Forecaster suspiciously
L258[12:17:37]
<Forecaster> %sip 's nonchalantly
L259[12:17:37] <MichiBot> You drink a warm
octiron potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a sheep bear until
they steal the moon.
L260[12:17:46]
<Forecaster> dangit MichiBot
L261[12:26:37]
<Agitated
Alice> >Amanda: A mod in JNI would be extremely slow. The
java <-> C translation is expensive
L262[12:26:38]
<Agitated
Alice> hmm thanks skynet you are right on that one
L263[12:26:43]
<Agitated
Alice> i should just learn java really
L264[12:26:56]
<Agitated
Alice> how hard is it even if i already know c++
L265[12:27:10]
<Agitated
Alice> i just remember 4 digit character count hello world and
never looking further into it
L266[12:27:12]
<Forecaster> sounds like some famous last
words
L267[12:27:24]
<Forecaster> it was nice knowing you
L268[12:27:31] <Amanda> cout <<
"HEllo world"?
L269[12:28:04]
<Agitated
Alice> std::cout << "Hello World!\n";
L270[12:29:02]
<Agitated
Alice> but java is like you gotta write the entire new testament
to get to the right context where you can then write a lengthy
tangly thing that looks like an object pointer object pointer
dereference to print hello world, or at least i remember it like
that,
L271[12:29:30] <Izzy> welcome to OOP
hell
L272[12:31:40]
<Agitated
Alice> my own oop in c++ never gets that stanky but i also do
least possible moving parts type engineering so that probably part
of the reason
L273[12:32:05] <Izzy> you know you've
entered OOP hell when an IDE is no longer recommended, but rather
required
L274[12:34:22] <Amanda> To be fair,
there's a few LSPs for stuff that used to require an IDE
L275[12:34:39] <Amanda> I think Kotlin has
one, and I think the eclipse foundation is maintaining one for
java
L276[12:36:11] <Amanda> Microsoft
maintains one for c#
L277[12:36:25] *
Saphire pats Izzy
L278[12:36:49] <Izzy> require in this
context meaning along the lines of "while technically
possible, not practical to edit in a 'plain' text
editor"
L279[12:37:20] <Saphire> I am really
unsure of a scenario where you want to honestly constantly program
a language in a plain text editor?
L280[12:37:24] <Amanda> I wrote a fair but
of SE scripts in nvim using omnisharp
L281[12:37:52] <Izzy> my vimrc is three
lines
L282[12:38:03] <Saphire> ...how?
L283[12:38:35] <Amanda> Need to use an
older version of omnisharp though, Microsoft ripped out the compat
for MSBuild as "legacy" ( even though new projects is
visual studio still use it )
L284[12:38:38] <Izzy> syntax on, dumb
autoindent, and hybrid absolute/relative line numbers
L285[12:39:30] <Izzy> this has more than
suited my needs
L286[12:41:18] <Izzy> oh, 4 lines on my
laptop, because I have a keybind to look up the definition of a
word under the cursor
L287[12:43:06] <Izzy> maybe it's because I
mostly write lua and bash so I don't need to check docs often
L288[12:43:25] <Izzy> but if more than
that is required to be productive maybe it's overcomplicated
L289[12:43:27] <Izzy> food for
thought
L290[12:45:21]
<Forecaster> I *am* getting
hungry...
L291[12:45:36] <Izzy> coming for brains,
huh
L292[12:45:42] <Izzy> well you won't find
any here!
L293[12:45:45] *
Izzy cackles into the distance
L294[12:46:33]
<Agitated
Alice> >Saphire: I am really unsure of a scenario where you
want to honestly constantly program a …
L295[12:46:33]
<Agitated
Alice> Well I do that, and its a thing programmers of my breed
do
L296[12:46:48]
<Agitated
Alice> like my development environment is Notepad++ and an open
bash terminal for MSYS2
L297[12:47:12]
<Forecaster> I code pretty much everything
in IDEA nowadays
L298[12:48:09]
<Agitated
Alice> I used to do IDE's but when setting up a build target for
linux took me 2 days of debugging and zero help from google,
manually editing the files in a text editor, then it just ignoring
and discarding that
L299[12:48:40]
<Agitated
Alice> i realized it was faster to just uninstall the IDE, get a
terminal up and write the command to build myself
L300[12:49:20] <Izzy> I managed to build a
C# rimworld mod on linux the other day, felt very clever
L301[12:49:25]
<Agitated
Alice> and if you know your shellscript and cmake you can do
some absolutely magical stuff that I havent seen a single IDE pull
off flawlessly or with the same degree of control
L302[12:49:28] <Izzy> (I just had to fix
the paths and run msbuild)
L303[12:50:07]
<Forecaster> I mainly use python scripts
to deploy and assemble various things as needed
L304[12:53:27]
<Agitated
Alice> Eitherway as I always feel the need to emphasize: There
is nothing wrong with your language of choice and editor of choice,
whether its java or C# with some IDE or if you are chuck moore
typing in forth on a micro with a chorded keyboard
L305[12:54:00]
<Forecaster> what, no no, whatever
everyone else does is wrong
L306[12:54:11]
<Forecaster> even if they do the same
thing you do they're somehow doing it wrong
L307[12:54:41]
<Agitated
Alice> Ive gotten piled up on for saying I dont use rust because
I personally cant stomach the syntax of it, so I always include
that.
L308[12:55:01]
<Agitated
Alice> oh wait yeah i forgot, gotta keep up my quota of hindpart
hattery
L309[12:55:02]
<Forecaster> I haven't even looked at
rust
L310[12:55:05]
<Agitated
Alice> good
L311[12:55:14]
<Agitated
Alice> its a memetic hazard, it acts like one at least
L312[12:55:43]
<Forecaster> I know Python, Javascript,
PHP, Java, C# and Lua
L313[12:55:56]
<Agitated
Alice> and those are career languages right there
L314[12:56:18]
<Forecaster> I've yet to have a reason to
use anything else, unless you count whatever the stuff AutoHotkey
uses is
L315[12:56:33] <Izzy> that's whatcha call
a domain specific language
L316[12:56:47] <Izzy>
probably I've never used
AHK
L317[12:57:08]
<Forecaster> it's based on something but I
forget what
L318[12:57:25]
<Forecaster> Lisp?
L319[12:57:26]
<Forecaster> maybe
L320[12:57:42]
<Agitated
Alice> hmm i cant think of anything but forth but that is
because forth basically becomes a domain/problem specific language
as you write out words for the application
L321[12:57:51]
<Agitated
Alice> lisp or forth yeah they are kinda related
L322[12:57:54]
<Agitated
Alice> (kinda)
L323[12:58:06]
<Forecaster> oh, and I know Rapid
L324[13:03:15] <Amanda> I don't think I
could even iterate on all the languages I know. I'm a serial
polyglot
L325[13:04:11] <Izzy> I try not to
know
L326[13:04:18] <Izzy> I hate programming,
computers are evil
L327[13:04:23] *
Izzy applies for another computer job
L328[13:04:37]
<Forecaster> but if you can't beat em,
join em
L329[13:04:42] <Amanda> my brain has a
rather easy time taking sutff from one language and converting it
into another language's syntax
L330[13:05:02] <Amanda> Shame human
languages don't work that logically
L331[13:08:27]
<Forecaster> that's because they weren't
made by programmers
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<Forecaster> %tonk
L410[13:38:33] <MichiBot> Awesome!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0 (By
6 hours, 2 minutes and 39 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L411[13:38:34] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 6 hours, 2 minutes and 39 seconds! Forecaster also gained
0.00604 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2 => #1.
(Overtook CompanionCube)
L412[14:00:59]
<ThePiGuy24> >Saphire: I am really
unsure of a scenario where you want to honestly constantly
progra…
L413[14:01:00]
<ThePiGuy24> my dev environment is
literally just tmux with nano in one pane, and a terminal to run
the program in another ;3
L414[14:02:42]
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> Please tell me
you at least have syntax highlighting
L415[14:20:25]
<ThePiGuy24> yes, usually
L416[14:24:33]
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> Lol Idk how I'd
function without syntax highlighting and autocomplete
L417[14:26:20]
<ThePiGuy24> i find autocomplete more
often than not causes problems for me, usually doing something i
dont expect or want
L418[14:27:52]
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> VSCode's
autocomplete lets me tab through stuff like method params which is
super handy
L419[14:56:31]
<Kristopher38> maybe someone here
knows
L420[14:57:14]
<Kristopher38> how can I *disable*
autocomplete in C/python/whatever in vscode while retaining all the
other useful stuff like jumping to definitions and whatnot
L421[14:57:50]
<Kristopher38> i find it distracting and
more often than not it's suggesting not the thing i want so i have
to use extra effort to cancel the autocomplete
L422[15:49:02]
<TechTastic> I love IntelliSense
L423[15:49:02]
<TechTastic> If I'm lacking the info I
just test various "it could be in this class", put a dot,
and just scroll through the methods that come up
L424[15:49:03]
<TechTastic> I honestly *should* learn to
read documentation proper but it has worked out so far
L425[15:50:50]
<TechTastic> And about the guy wanting to
use C to make a mod, there is another mod in a semi-similar vein
that uses a C++ physics engine in Minecraft via about 2 layers
between the engine itself and Forge/Fabric
L426[15:51:30]
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> Isn't that
VS2?
L427[15:51:47]
<Vaur>
%sip
L428[15:51:47] <MichiBot> You drink an
eroded unobtanium potion (New!). Vaur's skin turn the color of
octiron until they stop thinking about it.
L429[15:54:37]
<TechTastic> Yep
L430[15:55:46]
<TechTastic> Krunch (closed source C++
physics engine)
L431[15:55:46]
<TechTastic> Vs Core (version agnostic API
and hooks into Krunch)
L432[15:55:46]
<TechTastic> VS2 (abstraction layer
between VS Core and Forge/Fabric)
L433[16:38:47] <Amanda> %oclogs
L435[16:40:29]
<TechTastic> %tonk
L436[16:40:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
TechTastic, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6
hours, 2 minutes and 39 seconds this time. 3 hours, 1 minute and 56
seconds were wasted! Missed by 3 hours and 42 seconds!
L437[17:27:33]
<Vaur>
%sip
L438[17:27:33] <MichiBot> You drink a
runny tuna potion (New!). It tastes sweet.
L439[17:27:53]
<Forecaster> Sweet runny tuna
batman!
L440[18:20:34]
<Forecaster> %sip
L441[18:20:34] <MichiBot> You drink a
dusty currentcorn potion (New!). Forecaster's hair grows 3 times
longer until they have a grathnode potion.
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<Vaur>
%sip
L444[18:56:46] <MichiBot> You drink a
robust toxictop potion (New!). Vaur feels the need to smash.
(%smash)
L445[18:56:52]
<Vaur>
%smash
L446[18:56:52] <MichiBot> Vaur smashes a
pot. 1 large blue gem of some sort fell out.
L447[18:57:07]
<Vaur>
throw it into lava !
L448[18:57:32]
<Forecaster> Why'd you throw away free
money?!
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L450[20:16:21]
<Vaur>
>Forecaster: Why'd you throw away free money?!
L451[20:16:22]
<Vaur> it's
not money its useless blue rocks !
L452[20:23:50]
<Forecaster> It's not worthless, a blue
rupee is worth 5!
L453[20:42:30] <Amanda> worth
five-factorial?
L454[20:45:34] <Amanda> five-factorial
what though
L455[20:45:50] <Amanda> %choose space or
infinite space or 2d space or continue staring at an empty editor
window
L456[20:45:50] <MichiBot> Amanda: Some
"space" sounds nice
L457[20:55:26]
<Vaur>
%sip
L458[20:55:26] <MichiBot> You drink a tiny
iron potion (New!). Vaur knows the exact location of a particular
molecule of oxygen for 29 seconds.
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L461[21:01:19] ***
Amanda_ is now known as Amanda
L462[21:02:41] <Amanda> %choose comfort or
utility
L463[21:02:41] <MichiBot> Amanda: The
proof is in the pudding. Definitely "comfort". Hm, this
is surprisingly good...
L464[21:49:43]
<walksanator.
B⃢ot.> %tonk
L465[21:49:43] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
walksanator. B⃢ot., you were not able to beat Forecaster's record
of 6 hours, 2 minutes and 39 seconds this time. 5 hours, 9 minutes
and 13 seconds were wasted! Missed by 53 minutes and 25
seconds!
L466[21:51:09]
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> Welp
L467[21:51:11]
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> Gg
L468[21:52:10]
<ThePiGuy24> discord users really dont
have much of an excuse for mistonking
L469[21:52:37]
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> Yeah
L470[21:52:47]
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> Missed it by a
whole hour too
L471[21:53:17]
<ThePiGuy24> you can literally just search
for tonk in the channel and find all occurences of it
L472[21:55:05]
<PwnagePineapple (He/Him)> Yup
L473[22:02:33]
<Michiyo>
IRC users don't either, with the log page, and now, much faster
searching
L474[22:05:49]
<Vaur>
>ThePiGuy24: you can literally just search for tonk in the
channel and find all occu…
L475[22:05:49]
<Vaur> yeah
but no, discord search is shit
L476[22:06:00]
<Vaur> its
not listing all occurance of tonk ...
L477[22:07:30]
<Michiyo>
Hmm, maybe I should add a date range option to the search on the
log site.. searching tonk takes a good bit because of the number of
occurrences
L478[22:13:42]
<raharaga>
What's up dudes, anybody around for a quick question?
L479[22:15:09]
<ThePiGuy24> dont ask to ask, just
ask