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L1[00:30:39] <! Little​Timmy52 !> Open stuff was to blame for the assembler
L2[00:34:32] <Mic​hiyo> OpenStuff? https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/openstuff ?
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L4[01:14:25] <! Little​Timmy52 !> >Michiyo: OpenStuff? https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/openstuff ?
L5[01:14:26] <! Little​Timmy52 !> yes this was the issue, idk why, but it just broke OC
L6[01:14:35] <! Little​Timmy52 !> well just the assembler
L7[01:27:27] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?
L8[01:27:28] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hm, yeah okay.
L9[01:27:58] <Amanda> %choose wander outside to check the camera works
L10[01:27:58] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Whatever you're thinking, don't.
L11[01:28:08] <Amanda> sounds good, that means getting dressed
L12[01:53:10] <Mic​hiyo> yay, log search is again, faster
L13[02:22:45] <Amanda> Did you forget to remove one of the sleep()s
L14[02:23:09] * Amanda lays on Elfi, does a heccen zzzmew
L15[02:23:14] <Amanda> Night girls
L16[02:23:30] <Mic​hiyo> Night Amanda
L17[02:23:42] <Mic​hiyo> And no, I just lowered the time of one of the sleeps, of course
L18[02:24:08] <Amanda> Ah yes, need to leave some of it in so that you can keep that support contract going
L19[02:24:35] <Mic​hiyo> https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620
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L21[04:31:49] <Forec​aster> How many noob souls did you sacrifice?
L22[05:12:11] <walksanato​r. B⃢ot.> %tonk
L23[05:12:11] <MichiBot> Crud! walksanato​r. B⃢ot.! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 6 hours, 20 minutes and 22 seconds (By 2 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L24[05:12:12] <MichiBot> walksanator. B⃢ot.'s new record is 6 hours, 23 minutes and 19 seconds! walksanator. B⃢ot. also gained 0.00035 (0.00005 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #14. Need 0.00036 more points to pass AR2​000!
L25[05:12:16] <walksanato​r. B⃢ot.> yay
L26[05:12:30] <walksanato​r. B⃢ot.> see you at 3 AM
L27[05:14:50] <CompanionCube> Izzy: today on me: remembering that i should probably actually do the mojang migration thing
L28[05:15:29] <CompanionCube> also microsoft's 'recover username' function doesn't actually work if you've forgotten the username
L29[05:16:22] <CompanionCube> 'the rest of the linked username is hidden for security reasons' my ass
L30[05:18:41] <CompanionCube> but oh well, i used 'recover username' on the other common email and that happily said it was a valid account so i migrated to that one
L31[05:22:38] <CompanionCube> also funny: one page of the migration said there's no ms account linked to the email, the next said i couldn't create a new account because it was linked to an account
L32[05:24:55] <CompanionCube> the alternate option: digging arohnd my old disk for the username, which i briefly tried but gave up on
L33[05:38:41] <DiamondC​reeper_6> which mod adds security cameras and has OC compatibility?
L34[05:39:18] <CompanionCube> does opensecurity have them?
L35[05:39:21] <CompanionCube> %drink
L36[05:39:22] <MichiBot> You drink a basic spice potion (New!). CompanionCube's toes turn invisible until their next sip of water.
L37[05:39:28] <CompanionCube> oh no
L38[05:40:11] <Mic​hiyo> No, OpenSec doesn't have cameras. Computronics does, if you stretch the definition of camera far enough :P
L39[05:40:33] <CompanionCube> also apparently newe gitea has stricter email validation/config, keep in mind for your sendxmpp thing
L40[05:40:47] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Michiyo: No, OpenSec doesn't have cameras. Computronics does, if you stretch the definition…
L41[05:40:47] <DiamondC​reeper_6> can they function like security cameras?
L42[05:42:15] <Mic​hiyo> I mean.. you're not going to get images from them
L43[05:42:22] <Mic​hiyo> https://wiki.vexatos.com/wiki:computronics:camera
L44[05:43:07] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/security-craft has cameras, but AFAIK, no OC compat
L45[05:43:29] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/security-craft/files/all?filter-game-version=2020709689%3A6756
L46[05:46:40] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Michiyo: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/security-craft/files/all?filter-game-v…
L47[05:46:40] <DiamondC​reeper_6> does this mod has OC compatibility?
L48[05:47:08] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Michiyo: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/security-craft has cameras, but AFAIK,…
L49[05:47:09] <DiamondC​reeper_6> then I guess I cant use it
L50[05:47:50] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Because I need it to be controlled by computers
L51[05:50:13] <DiamondC​reeper_6> guess theres no such mods as a security camera mod that has OC compatibility?
L52[05:51:05] <Mic​hiyo> Not that I know of. Closest you'll get is Computronics, which is basically a raycast between the camera block and whatever is around.
L53[05:51:28] <DiamondC​reeper_6> but you said it doesnt function like a security camera
L54[05:51:36] <DiamondC​reeper_6> since I cant get images off of it
L55[05:51:39] <Mic​hiyo> Which is why I said it's the closest you'll get.
L56[05:51:46] <Mic​hiyo> Not, it's exactly what you want.
L57[05:51:54] <DiamondC​reeper_6> so I have no purpose for it
L58[05:52:09] <Mic​hiyo> ffs...
L59[05:52:27] <DiamondC​reeper_6> so what controlls the security cameras in security craft
L60[05:52:32] <DiamondC​reeper_6> controls*
L61[05:57:58] <DiamondC​reeper_6> I dont appreciate my father telling me to go take a pill just because I always snack on things
L62[06:23:07] <DiamondC​reeper_6> @Michiyo ?
L63[06:30:35] <Lili​rine> Pinging people asking for support isn't usually the best way to go about getting support.
L64[06:30:59] <Lili​rine> the Modded Minecraft discord has a great macro on this, but tl;dr we aren't paid tech support, have some patience please
L65[06:31:29] <Lili​rine> I can't speak for everyone here, but I can probably safely assume most people don't like being pinged for something simple
L66[06:32:06] <Lili​rine> (in fact, needlessly pinging is far more likely to get you ignored than to get you support)
L67[06:32:40] <Lili​rine> Anyway - would CRC32 be considered acceptable as a simple "identifier"? Security not required.
L68[06:32:47] <Forec​aster> What does their message say?
L69[06:32:58] <Lili​rine> >Forecaster: What does their message say?
L70[06:32:59] <Lili​rine> who's?
L71[06:33:05] <Forec​aster> MM discord
L72[06:33:10] <Lili​rine> Uh, let me pull it up
L73[06:33:22] <Forec​aster> >DiamondCreeper_6: which mod adds security cameras and has OC compatibility?
L74[06:33:23] <Forec​aster> What is your end goal?
L75[06:33:31] <Forec​aster> If you want to detect players there are ways to do that
L76[06:33:35] <Lili​rine> "Nobody here is paid tech support. We volunteer our time and knowledge to help people as we can. Not everyone here will have your answer the moment you want it. Time zones, work/life schedules etc also vary when people are around to help. TL;DR: Please have patience. IF and WHEN someone knows, they will assist you."
L77[06:33:39] <Lili​rine> Sorry IRC folks for a long message
L78[06:33:43] <Forec​aster> if you want in-game images remotely then good luck
L79[06:34:15] <Lili​rine> Also yes, XY problem
L80[06:34:34] <Forecaster> %command add support Nobody here is paid tech support. We volunteer our time and knowledge to help people as we can. Not everyone here will have your answer the moment you want it. Time zones, work/life schedules etc also vary when people are around to help. TL;DR: Please have patience. IF and WHEN someone knows, they will assist you.
L81[06:34:35] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Command Added! Don't forget to set help text with %command addhelp!
L82[06:34:43] <Lili​rine> Oh, you can add commands?
L83[06:34:48] <Lili​rine> Or can only certain people
L84[06:34:57] <Forecaster> Certain people can yes
L85[06:35:04] <Forecaster> mainly me, Michiyo and Amanda
L86[06:35:05] <Lili​rine> mind adding `https://xyproblem.info/`? as %xyproblem? (also nicked from mmcord)
L87[06:35:22] <Forecaster> %command addhelp support Pay us $
L88[06:35:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Help Set
L89[06:35:26] <Lili​rine> lmao
L90[06:35:45] <Forecaster> %command add xyproblem https://xyproblem.info/
L91[06:35:45] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Command Added! Don't forget to set help text with %command addhelp!
L92[06:35:49] <Lili​rine> Thanks
L93[06:36:13] <Forecaster> %command addhelp xyproblem If it's not your problem it's not my problem
L94[06:36:13] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Help Set
L95[06:37:02] <Lili​rine> much appreciated
L96[06:37:41] <Lili​rine> But yeah, is CRC32 acceptable for a simple system identifier? Thinking of using it because it's small
L97[06:37:53] <Lili​rine> I don't want an end user to have to type out an entire SHA-256 hash, or an entire UUID
L98[06:38:09] <Forec​aster> I don't see why it wouldn't be
L99[06:38:31] <DiamondC​reeper_6> what charactor is your pfp from Forecatser?
L100[06:41:23] <Forec​aster> That isn't a very good answer to my question to you
L101[06:41:53] <Lili​rine> how can I get the current unix time?
L102[06:42:00] <Lili​rine> either millis or seconds, millis would be better actually
L103[06:42:25] <Lili​rine> thinking of CRC32ing current unix time millis to generate a very basic and probably very insecure key
L104[06:42:27] <Forec​aster> in OC? request from external service
L105[06:42:35] <Forec​aster> via internet card
L106[06:43:03] <Lili​rine> ...does `os.date` not do it?
L107[06:43:14] <Forec​aster> the only thing you can get in-game is the world time
L108[06:43:18] <Lili​rine> oh darn
L109[06:43:33] <Lili​rine> well, world time works
L110[06:43:36] <Lili​rine> is that millis?
L111[06:43:40] <Lili​rine> or ticks
L112[06:43:40] <Forec​aster> seconds
L113[06:43:40] <DiamondC​reeper_6> what question?
L114[06:43:48] <DiamondC​reeper_6> been out of the room
L115[06:43:53] <Lili​rine> `os.time()` doesn't seem like seconds
L116[06:44:02] <Forec​aster> I thought it was seconds
L117[06:44:02] <Lili​rine> maybe it is another method?
L118[06:44:23] <Lili​rine> yeah no it is not seconds
L119[06:44:42] <Forec​aster> `os.date has been reimplemented to use ingame time and supports most formats.`
L120[06:44:53] <Forec​aster> that's not very specific...
L121[06:45:13] <Forec​aster> oh, right
L122[06:45:17] <Forec​aster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/kedawemake
L123[06:45:22] <Forec​aster> that was the seconds one
L124[06:45:40] <Lili​rine> Hmm. https://tinyurl.com/2qzyam9c
L125[06:46:07] <Lili​rine> is a "game second" actually a tick?
L126[06:46:16] <Forec​aster> no
L127[06:46:28] <Lili​rine> every .2 seconds it goes up by 18
L128[06:46:36] <Forec​aster> there's a formula for converting it to ticks on the wiki
L129[06:46:39] <Forec​aster> so it's not
L130[06:46:42] <Lili​rine> weird.
L131[06:46:47] <Forec​aster> but it's based on the tickrate
L132[06:46:56] <Lili​rine> tickrate is a perfect 20
L133[06:46:57] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Lilirine: Hmm.
L134[06:46:57] <DiamondC​reeper_6> what are you doing, those numbers look confusing
L135[06:47:33] <CompanionCube> 'HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges' lol
L136[06:48:42] <Lili​rine> the what.
L137[06:55:13] <Forec​aster> >DiamondCreeper_6: been out of the room
L138[06:55:13] <Forec​aster> Hey, did you know you can scroll up and read past messages? It's amazing I know.
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L140[08:51:07] <Izzy> Lilirine: os.time behaves differently when the Minecraft server is running on a Windows host
L141[08:52:22] <Izzy> oh, or maybe that was something else that behaved differently between windows and unixlike hosts
L142[08:52:59] <Izzy> anyway, if you want a seconds counter use the computer uptime
L143[12:15:25] <Amanda> CompanionCubedidn't they or somebody else do that awhile ago, then they had to patch it out during the chip shortage, become people decided their printers weren't worth it?
L144[12:16:57] <Amanda> Or was it because their cartridges were getting way too expensive to produce or something
L145[12:34:15] <Forec​aster> I'm sure it'll go well and won't come back to bite them at all
L146[12:34:44] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L147[12:34:45] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks! Forec​aster! You beat walksanato​r. B⃢ot.'s previous record of 6 hours, 23 minutes and 19 seconds (By 59 minutes and 13 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L148[12:34:46] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.475735. Position #1
L149[12:51:23] <S​ky> >Amanda: Or was it because their cartridges were getting way too expensive to p…
L150[12:51:24] <S​ky> Cartridges are less than a dollar to make lol
L151[12:59:17] <Amanda> @Sky with the DRM chips and the worldwide chip shortage I could see that going up to *gasp* 2+ dollars!
L152[12:59:51] <Amanda> Totally unacceptable to some big suit who wants profit to always be going up
L153[13:11:50] <S​ky> Yeah lol
L154[13:12:15] <S​ky> I wonder if there is an open source printer project
L155[13:12:18] <S​ky> There's gotta be
L156[13:13:59] <S​ky> Apparentl laser printers are good
L157[13:21:02] <Forec​aster> suits be profitin'
L158[13:56:10] <Amanda> %remindme 45m check CI
L159[13:56:10] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check CI" in 45m at 03/08/2023 02:41:10 PM
L160[14:18:43] <Forec​aster> %sip
L161[14:18:44] <MichiBot> You drink a safe gold potion (New!). Forecaster's eyes turn the color of aegisalt until they have an apple.
L162[14:18:54] <Forec​aster> I for one just printed some circles
L163[14:18:59] <Forec​aster> they're very nice circles
L164[14:19:13] <Forec​aster> some of em got numbers in 'em
L165[14:22:54] <S​ky> %sip
L166[14:22:54] <MichiBot> You drink a robust dalekanium potion (New!). Sky feels a strong urge to recycle the potion bottle.
L167[14:23:10] <S​ky> Savin the environment one bottle at a time, baby!
L168[14:41:11] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check CI
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L174[15:24:29] <Mic​hiyo> %tonk
L175[15:24:29] <MichiBot> Eh! Mic​hiyo! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 49 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L176[15:24:30] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 2 hours, 49 minutes and 44 seconds! Michiyo also gained 0.00283 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.025495 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L187[16:46:02] <Ar​iri> anyone recommend a particular database for rust?
L188[16:46:50] <Amanda> Appologies for the join/part spam, I'm playing with matches near my networking
L189[16:54:48] <Forec​aster> I'd recommend a database full of other databases, a databasebase
L190[16:55:23] <Mic​hiyo> I should compile a database of those, a databasebasedatabase
L191[16:57:05] <ThePi​Guy24> (dbbdb for short)
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L198[17:59:45] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L199[17:59:45] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Michiyo's record of 2 hours, 49 minutes and 44 seconds this time. 2 hours, 35 minutes and 16 seconds were wasted! Missed by 14 minutes and 28 seconds!
L200[17:59:49] <CompanionCube> damn
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L204[18:28:04] <Va​ur> %sip
L205[18:28:04] <MichiBot> You drink a rather coralcreep potion (New!). Vaur turns into a bird dog girl until they have an apple.
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L209[19:45:55] <Lili​rine> >Ariri: anyone recommend a particular database for rust?
L210[19:45:56] <Lili​rine> like, DB library?
L211[19:46:05] <Ar​iri> yea
L212[19:46:07] <Lili​rine> I'll ask my friend, see if he knows anything
L213[19:46:19] <Lili​rine> guy's into rust quite a bit
L214[19:46:33] <Lili​rine> wrote an (extremely barebones) JVM and a b1.8.1 server
L215[19:47:06] <Ar​iri> tyty
L216[19:47:08] <Lili​rine> np
L217[19:47:16] <Lili​rine> what are you making with rust, if I might ask? 👀
L218[19:47:29] <Ar​iri> also do i know u from somewhere? i have a note in ur profile already
L219[19:47:36] <Lili​rine> >Ariri: also do i know u from somewhere? i have a note in ur profile already
L220[19:47:36] <Lili​rine> Yeah
L221[19:47:41] <Lili​rine> I used to be Stargazer :P
L222[19:47:41] <Lili​rine> That was ages ago
L223[19:47:43] <Ar​iri> >Lilirine: what are you making with rust, if I might ask? 👀
L224[19:47:44] <Ar​iri> discord bot for now
L225[19:47:51] <Ar​iri> >Lilirine: I used to be Stargazer :P
L226[19:47:51] <Ar​iri> That was ages ago
L227[19:47:52] <Ar​iri> ohhhh no way
L228[19:47:54] <Lili​rine> yup
L229[19:47:56] <Ar​iri> how you been?
L230[19:48:00] <Lili​rine> im good, you?
L231[19:48:10] <Ar​iri> good
L232[19:48:10] <Ar​iri> same old same fold
L233[19:48:13] <Ar​iri> old*
L234[19:48:16] <Lili​rine> >Lilirine: what are you making with rust, if I might ask? 👀
L235[19:48:16] <Lili​rine> also, this reminds me; I need to/should probably make Haxe externs for OC
L236[19:48:20] <Lili​rine> >Ariri: good
L237[19:48:21] <Lili​rine> same old same fold
L238[19:48:21] <Lili​rine> fair enough
L239[19:48:31] <Ar​iri> i like the name change
L240[19:48:34] <Lili​rine> thank!
L241[19:48:48] <Lili​rine> I rejoined this discord a week or two ago actually
L242[19:48:57] <Lili​rine> but I've been lurking on IRC (as `lily`) for a while
L243[19:49:44] <Lili​rine> after playing Switchcraft 3 (yup, SC is still around!), OC hits the spot nicely - yeah CC is nice and all (and they reimplemented 3D printers), but that component-based architecture is just amazing
L244[19:49:53] <Lili​rine> limitations make things fun
L245[19:50:03] <Ar​iri> agreed :)
L246[19:50:22] <Lili​rine> I need to see about updating my server to OC 1.8 snapshot while clients are on 1.7.7 though
L247[19:50:28] <Lili​rine> (for aarch64 natives)
L248[19:50:43] <Lili​rine> I would assume changing the `mcmod.info` *should* suffice as iirc all of the changes are internal
L249[19:50:55] <Lili​rine> minus lua 5.4 though that's off by default
L250[19:51:27] <Lili​rine> >Lilirine: I need to see about updating my server to OC 1.8 snapshot while clients are…
L251[19:51:27] <Lili​rine> Playing E2E and I can't really ask my players to update to an alpha build
L252[19:51:27] <Lili​rine> (+ latest curseforge build has a bug)
L253[19:53:44] <Ar​iri> that reminds me i need to get my modpack stuff sorted
L254[19:53:52] <Lili​rine> oh?
L255[19:56:28] <Lili​rine> does setting a table element to `nil` free up the memory used by that element?
L256[19:56:44] <Va​ur> %sip
L257[19:56:44] <MichiBot> You drink a concentrated chocolate potion (New!). A swinging blade comes flying towards Vaur from nowhere! They fail to evade it with a 15 vs DC 16 and takes 1d​8 => 8 damage.
L258[19:56:47] <Lili​rine> I don't want to needlessly fill up memory with air stacks from `transposer.getAllStacks().getAll()`
L259[19:56:55] <Forec​aster> once garbage collection happens I'd guess
L260[19:56:59] <Lili​rine> ah ok
L261[19:57:12] <Lili​rine> do tables have much of a large memory footprint anyway though?
L262[19:57:20] <Lili​rine> say ~1.5k length
L263[19:57:22] <Forec​aster> not sure how the in-game memory works
L264[19:57:32] <Lili​rine> guess I can always test
L265[20:00:31] <Lili​rine> ok, it looks like allocating a lot takes a lot of memory
L266[20:14:36] <Lili​rine> 16 characters is enough for a device name right?
L267[20:15:36] <Forec​aster> depends
L268[20:15:47] <Lili​rine> context is an inventory management system
L269[20:15:57] <Lili​rine> names are user-set, though I might look at randomly generating them
L270[20:17:01] <Forec​aster> 16 characters is probably fine
L271[20:30:40] <Na​dja> >Ariri: anyone recommend a particular database for rust?
L272[20:30:40] <Na​dja> Plenty. What do you need?
L273[20:32:56] <Ar​iri> >Nadja: Plenty. What do you need?
L274[20:32:57] <Ar​iri> not sure exactly, probably async and would prefer for it to be simple (like no daemon) cuz it's just for a discord bot atm
L275[20:33:19] <Na​dja> >Ariri: not sure exactly, probably async and would prefer for it to be simple (l…
L276[20:33:19] <Na​dja> async? So a networked DB then, not a in-process one like SQLite?
L277[20:33:52] <Ar​iri> i don't know tbh, i think the discord lib were using is async but idk if the db *needs* to be async
L278[20:34:29] <Ar​iri> and the person i'm working on this with would prefer a pure rust solution and so do i tbh
L279[20:34:29] <Ar​iri> sqlite only works thru a C lib and stuff or something
L280[20:34:37] <Ar​iri> idk i recommended it and it got shot down
L281[20:35:06] <Na​dja> Tell the person that they're still using the glibc which is written in 100% utterly *cursed* C and to complain a bit less.
L282[20:35:29] <Na​dja> If there's one piece of C code out there that I'd trust it's probably SQLite -.-
L283[20:36:25] <Ar​iri> >"rude"
L284[20:36:31] <Ar​iri> they concur
L285[20:37:54] <Na​dja> SQLite it is then
L286[20:38:31] <Ar​iri> do u think we need an async lib for async code for this? it's mainly just storing user data and commands only happen so often anyways so...
L287[20:38:37] <Na​dja> no
L288[20:38:38] <Ar​iri> i would think it's fine but what's ur take
L289[20:38:44] <Ar​iri> a
L290[20:38:54] <Ar​iri> ty
L291[20:39:56] <Na​dja> It's not that you *can't* make a in-memory DB like SQLite async. But you're several orders of magnitude away from the kind of performance problems where you would *want* it to.
L292[20:42:07] <Ar​iri> mmm.. makes sense
L293[20:47:22] <Ar​iri> >Nadja: It's not that you *can't* make a in-memory DB like SQLite async. But you…
L294[20:47:23] <Ar​iri> what about if you want multiple front ends tho
L295[20:47:37] <Ar​iri> wouldn't a daemon db be easier for that
L296[20:48:59] <Na​dja> not necessarily, no
L297[20:49:42] <Ar​iri> really?
L298[20:50:02] <Na​dja> it depends on how you access your DB
L299[20:50:36] <Na​dja> If you want to be able to write from multiple processes and see written information as soon as possible then yes, a central DB daemon is a good way
L300[20:50:44] <Na​dja> otherwise, it's not that simple a decision
L301[20:50:56] <Na​dja> Welcome to engineering, everything is a trade-off :P
L302[20:58:42] <Forec​aster> sometimes the trade-offs have trade-offs
L303[21:11:04] <Ar​iri> >Nadja: Welcome to engineering, everything is a trade-off :P
L304[21:11:04] <Ar​iri> real
L305[21:11:26] <Ar​iri> >Nadja: Welcome to engineering, everything is a trade-off :P
L306[21:11:26] <Ar​iri> what other trade offs come to mind
L307[21:13:14] <Amanda> at least one method requires trading in souls
L308[21:16:04] <Na​dja> >Ariri: what other trade offs come to mind
L309[21:16:04] <Na​dja> what isn't a trade-off?
L310[21:16:32] <Forec​aster> Ducks
L311[21:17:31] <Ar​iri> >Nadja: what isn't a trade-off?
L312[21:17:31] <Ar​iri> well like besides not being a daemon and such, what trade offs do u make then if the front end is basically the same to work with
L313[21:17:54] <Na​dja> ?
L314[21:19:06] <Ar​iri> idk i'm just relaying a question
L315[21:19:19] <Forec​aster> %sip
L316[21:19:19] <MichiBot> You drink an endless toxictop potion (New!). Forecaster's favourite pants suddenly disintegrates.
L317[21:19:25] <Forec​aster> not again
L318[21:24:38] <Ar​iri> >Nadja: ?
L319[21:24:39] <Ar​iri> > yeah, what would the tradeoff be between using a conventional db daemon vs whatever else she was thinking
L320[21:44:57] <walksanato​r. B⃢ot.> %tonk
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L323[21:45:28] <Na​dja> >Ariri: > yeah, what would the tradeoff be between using a conventional db daemo…
L324[21:45:28] <Na​dja> Setup overhead mostly I guess?
L325[21:47:34] <Ar​iri> a
L326[22:40:52] <Lili​rine> :hahayes: https://tinyurl.com/2p7vkndb
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