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L1[00:05:18] <AR2​000> >Kristopher38: does your autocrafter check if item is craftable based on (sub)recipes it…
L2[00:05:18] <AR2​000> ...
L3[00:05:19] <AR2​000> Nop
L4[00:05:19] <AR2​000> It will fail mid recipe. Doesn't anticipate required ressources either. It's slow af, but at least you don't have to babysit it and can fo something else while it works.
L5[00:05:32] <Kristo​pher38> understandable
L6[00:05:35] <AR2​000> I really need to improve it
L7[00:05:40] <Kristo​pher38> anyway quite a substantial repo
L8[00:06:37] <AR2​000> I like to keep everything here. Make it easier to install on srv laters since it's oppm compatible
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L10[00:07:53] <AR2​000> The easiest program to use is the Stargate one. Everything can be done from the app. The door ctrl one is not too hard either but it's config menu is text only
L11[00:07:56] <Kristo​pher38> makes me wanna play OC again
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L13[00:09:39] <AR2​000> >Kristopher38: makes me wanna play OC again
L14[00:09:39] <AR2​000> Take my autocrafter, throw the crafting algo in the trash and make a working one.
L15[00:09:39] <AR2​000> The recipe storage format should be good to keep. And the way I load them make sharing possible. The ui should be good to keep too
L16[00:10:07] <AR2​000> Now you have a reason to play OC again
L17[00:10:57] <Kristo​pher38> I have one autocrafter in the freezer, first checks if you have enough resources, doesn't loop forever on recipe cycles and constructs a crafting plan first before crafting anything
L18[00:11:14] <Kristo​pher38> I don't need a reason, I need time
L19[00:11:20] <AR2​000> >Michiyo: I really need a 4th monitor
L20[00:11:20] <AR2​000> 4th !?
L21[00:11:20] <AR2​000> You have 3 !?
L22[00:11:26] <Mic​hiyo> Yes
L23[00:12:15] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/2hbrobdf
L24[00:12:16] <Kristo​pher38> Give me one, I only have 1... Pretty please?
L25[00:12:19] <AR2​000> >Kristopher38: I have one autocrafter in the freezer, first checks if you have enough re…
L26[00:12:20] <AR2​000> I could make it way faster by making it craft stacks at a time instead of one at a time
L27[00:12:38] <AR2​000> >Michiyo:
L28[00:12:38] <AR2​000> Where is the portrait one to display your code ?
L29[00:13:04] <Mic​hiyo> if I REALLY wanted to I could rotate the top left, but no. :P
L30[00:13:53] <AR2​000> I see a lot of tabs, and open apps. Plus a Windows VM !? How much TB of RAM fo you have ?
L31[00:14:08] <Mic​hiyo> 64GB
L32[00:14:14] <Mic​hiyo> Firefox is currently using 31 of that.. lmao
L33[00:14:37] <Mic​hiyo> the "VM" you see there is actually RDPMan connected to my physical servers
L34[00:14:51] <Mic​hiyo> Although I DO have Docker and Hyper-V on the desktop for some light use.
L35[00:15:14] <AR2​000> >Michiyo: Firefox is currently using 31 of that.. lmao
L36[00:15:14] <AR2​000> 31...
L37[00:15:14] <AR2​000> And after pll say chrome use a lot of RAM. Firefox too
L38[00:15:30] <Mic​hiyo> 5 windows with metric tons of tabs open in each
L39[00:15:33] <Mic​hiyo> I have a problem.
L40[00:15:36] <AR2​000> >Michiyo: Although I DO have Docker and Hyper-V on the desktop for some light use.
L41[00:15:37] <AR2​000> Please tell me docker is on wsl
L42[00:16:02] <Mic​hiyo> It is not, I've not set up WSL again after my recent reinstall of 10
L43[00:16:05] <Mic​hiyo> I was on 11
L44[00:16:52] <AR2​000> 😢 Docker is supposed to share a single Linux kernel instance with multiple container.
L45[00:16:52] <AR2​000> Docker is Linux
L46[00:17:06] <Corded> * <Mic​hiyo> shrug
L47[00:17:18] <AR2​000> Seeing docker on windows always make me cry
L48[00:17:22] <Mic​hiyo> Currently all it does is host a Cards Against Humanity clone :P
L49[00:17:36] <Mic​hiyo> Previously it also hosted a iDRAC 6 interface
L50[00:17:40] <Mic​hiyo> but not right now
L51[00:20:23] <AR2​000> I like to trashtalk windows and say Linux is the best, but as a sysadmin I have to admit AD is the best to manage a entire network of workstation (and maybe srv but I still prefer linux for servers)
L52[00:24:29] <AR2​000> My take on it : Linux as a personal OS (free and does spy and bloat your pc), and Windows for enterprise (easy to administrate at larger scale)
L53[00:24:48] <AR2​000> Or just use OpenOS 😂
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L55[00:33:38] <! Little​Timmy52 !> Any practical use for the world card
L56[00:34:35] <Mic​hiyo> The practical use is the friends we made along the way.
L57[00:35:25] <Izaya> did the world card have temperature and humidity or whatever it's called?
L58[00:35:30] <Izaya> would be good for measuring what bees want
L59[00:35:43] <Izaya> especially with a seasons mod
L60[01:04:01] <Dur​ex77> @Kristopher38 Ehh I want to play with OC also. Also want to finish my autocraft.
L61[01:13:12] <Dur​ex77> @AR2000 Emm seeing docker on windows make you cry?
L62[01:13:50] <Dur​ex77> Without docker it's really hard to use windows for developers.
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L65[02:00:11] <nadja> Tech fight! :D
L66[02:00:39] * Amanda curls up around elfi to protecc hey from flying parenthesis
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L68[02:33:25] * Amanda offers nadja a bottle of wax, curls up to contemplate zzzmews
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L70[02:35:31] <Amanda> bye flappy
L71[02:41:22] * Amanda curls up into a ball of floof around Elfi, does a heccen zzzmrow
L72[02:41:25] <Amanda> Night girls
L73[02:42:05] <Mic​hiyo> o/
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L79[03:47:05] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L80[03:47:05] <MichiBot> Va​ur: You gotta tonk before you can tonk out. For this transgression the timer has been reset.
L81[03:47:45] <Va​ur> rip
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L83[04:06:00] <Mic​hiyo> ouch...
L84[04:15:55] <Izaya> @Ariri https://social.shadowkat.net/media/10c5bf03669da401b91e0831944672347ddd0081ba367c93f0f6902691609285.jpg
L85[04:16:01] <Izaya> 2680 arrived
L86[05:27:46] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L87[05:27:46] <MichiBot> Woooo! Forec​aster! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 40 minutes and 41 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L88[05:27:47] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 40 minutes and 41 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00168 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L89[06:34:34] <Ar​iri> >Izaya: 2680 arrived
L90[06:34:34] <Ar​iri> naisu
L91[06:34:56] <Izaya> got both hooked up, and one's in the middle of the house rather than the computer room end now
L92[06:35:01] <Izaya> someone let me use the power tools :3
L93[06:35:52] <Izaya> the 2680 is staying in the computer room tho
L94[06:35:58] <Izaya> stronker wifi for the computer room :3
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L96[07:25:50] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk
L97[07:25:50] <MichiBot> Wah! Redston​eParkour! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 1 hour, 40 minutes and 41 seconds (By 17 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L98[07:25:51] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour's new record is 1 hour, 58 minutes and 4 seconds! RedstoneParkour also gained 0.00058 (0.00029 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #7. Need 0.00766 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
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L103[08:30:57] <Forec​aster> Chonky things
L104[08:56:34] <Forec​aster> I might need some repeaters here once the fiber is installed and the router is in it's final position
L105[08:56:35] <Forec​aster> which will likely be one corner of the house
L106[09:21:51] <Izaya> powerline ethernet and APs :3
L107[09:52:20] <Dur​ex77> Who is Izaya?
L108[09:52:27] <Izaya> <--
L109[09:52:39] <Dur​ex77> Are u writing from the IRC?
L110[09:52:55] <Izaya> yup
L111[09:53:10] <Dur​ex77> I see. I hate IRC
L112[09:53:16] <Izaya> I see. I hate Discord
L113[09:53:40] <Dur​ex77> Is it popular in your country?
L114[09:53:47] <Dur​ex77> Because in my country no-one use it
L115[09:53:53] <Izaya> Within certain demographics.
L116[09:57:12] <Dur​ex77> Have u finished your storage system?
L117[09:57:35] <Izaya> Finished?
L118[09:57:56] <Dur​ex77> completed
L119[09:59:40] <Dur​ex77> Have u completed your app? Is it working? Do u have a video/screenshots? Have your source code available?
L120[09:59:55] <Izaya> https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-DSS2/
L121[10:00:56] <Dur​ex77> Do u have a screenshot?
L122[10:01:28] <Dur​ex77> Ohh I see. It storage drawer based.
L123[10:01:53] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/b79e.jpg
L124[10:03:24] <Dur​ex77> I'm just curious how people handle RAM issues. But in your app it's much easier as you use storage drawer
L125[10:03:41] <Dur​ex77> You don't need a lot of RAM at all
L126[10:04:41] <Izaya> yeah, getAllStacks returns an iterator that doesn't use the computer's RAM
L127[10:05:08] <Izaya> if all you need to do is search then it's simple enough, and if you stream the data straight out you don't have to keep it all in memory either
L128[10:05:56] <Dur​ex77> In my storage system I tried to store everything in memory - then I got OOM. Then I splitted
L129[10:06:23] <Dur​ex77> Do u see changes when I edit a message?
L130[10:06:38] <Forec​aster> No
L131[10:07:26] <Dur​ex77> In my storage system I tried to store everything in memory - then I got OOM. Then I split data into a lot of files. Then I got OOE when one of my files was too big. Then @Kristopher38 shared his serialization lib with me and it helped.
L132[10:08:19] <Dur​ex77> But still it's not a solution. It's not scalable anyway.
L133[10:08:47] <Dur​ex77> Default serialization lib in OC very RAP consuming.
L134[10:09:24] <Dur​ex77> Currently I'm thinking about storing data in the unmanaged disk. It should be a scalable solution
L135[10:10:53] <Izaya> I'd do some sort of distributed search if you have a lot of individual inventories
L136[10:11:12] <Izaya> broadcast a query, have each machine do its own search and return what it finds
L137[10:12:55] <Dur​ex77> At least I want to move indexes to unmanaged disk. Because currently I store data about each ITEM in the different file. To open a file I need to spend 1/20 seconds (1 tick). So it become hard to search. If you have 1000 ITEMS. You need to spend 50 seconds to iterate throw all of them.
L138[10:13:25] <Dur​ex77> So I created an indexes. Indexes are separate files with it's own data structure.
L139[10:13:32] <Izaya> for my autocrafting thinger I had them organised alphabetically
L140[10:13:49] <Izaya> so you'd find the longest named file with the matching characters from the start
L141[10:14:24] <Dur​ex77> I have count indexes for sort purpose. And Alphabeticall index for search purpose.
L142[10:14:26] <Izaya> each file contained serialised tables with recipes
L143[10:14:53] <Izaya> they were also compressed, which meant I could fit them on a T1 disk rather than a T3 disk
L144[10:14:57] <Dur​ex77> But the issue is that those indexes files become very large
L145[10:15:54] <Izaya> Durex77: https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-misc/src/branch/master/lz16/liblz16.lua
L146[10:16:20] <Izaya> lets you use compressed LZSS files as a stream without loading the whole thing into memory
L147[10:16:58] <Dur​ex77> @Kristopher38 gave me hist serialization lib.
L148[10:17:04] <Dur​ex77> his*
L149[10:17:50] <Dur​ex77> But it anyway is not solving that issue. Because index could be bigger than RAM size.
L150[10:18:24] <Izaya> and that's why you use it as a stream and search it in order
L151[10:18:32] <Izaya> never load the whole thing into memory
L152[10:19:08] <Kristo​pher38> >Durex77: I'm just curious how people handle RAM issues. But in your app it's much easier…
L153[10:19:08] <Kristo​pher38> there's no good way to handle OOM, you have to pay attention not to go over a certain threshold
L154[10:19:34] <Dur​ex77> @Kristopher38 We just need to develop a scalable sollution
L155[10:20:00] <Dur​ex77> Unmanaged disks looks like an option
L156[10:20:18] <Dur​ex77> A year ago I tested them. And they showed a very good performance.
L157[10:20:37] <Kristo​pher38> I had an idea to create sort of an allocator, if you wanted to use a table you'd have to ask for a table from a library and it'd keep track of memory usage, and swap tables in/out of disk
L158[10:20:51] <Kristo​pher38> like paging in real OSes
L159[10:21:12] <Dur​ex77> I want to create a collections that store data in the unmanaged disks.
L160[10:21:45] <Dur​ex77> So instead of storing them in a RAM. Use unmanaged disks
L161[10:21:56] <Izaya> ._.
L162[10:22:33] <Kristo​pher38> I have a hunch unmanaged drives won't be much faster
L163[10:22:36] <Izaya> if you're interested in data organisation on raw disks, plan 9's venti may interest you
L164[10:22:59] <Kristo​pher38> I like Izaya's idea of distributed search
L165[10:23:19] <Izaya> lets you skip keeping it on disk entirely
L166[10:23:54] <Kristo​pher38> it makes sense once you go over certain data amount
L167[10:24:38] <Dur​ex77> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737029902188019833/935645307860025404/unknown.png
L168[10:24:54] <Dur​ex77> 1000 keys
L169[10:25:18] <Dur​ex77> 12 sec to write them into the collection
L170[10:25:37] <Dur​ex77> 5 sec to read 1000 items from the collection
L171[10:26:30] <Kristo​pher38> you might want to look into how databases handle this
L172[10:26:59] <Kristo​pher38> in particular b-trees
L173[10:27:48] <Izaya> ... what if btrfs in OC? :D
L174[10:28:44] <Dur​ex77> @Kristopher38 I borrowed and idea of indexes in the DBs.
L175[10:29:16] <Izaya> \o/
L176[10:29:22] <Redston​eParkour> %tonkout
L177[10:29:24] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Redston​eParkour! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 58 minutes and 4 seconds (By 1 hour, 5 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L178[10:29:25] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.01393, Position #7 Need 0.00066 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L179[10:29:28] <Izaya> Unrelated: Anyone ever played with DAWN? https://github.com/berlin-open-wireless-lab/DAWN
L180[10:29:46] <Kristo​pher38> yeah but there are some data structures which work better or worse in the context of drive accesses
L181[10:31:04] <Kristo​pher38> b-trees work really well on hard drives because each node stores a lot of elements, on the order of 100-1000s
L182[10:31:24] <Kristo​pher38> so the tree is really shallow so you don't have to do a lot of random accesses
L183[10:32:46] <Dur​ex77> Ye. Because of that I used a BTree.
L184[10:32:57] <Dur​ex77> But the implementation could be much better
L185[10:46:05] <Kristo​pher38> I want to implement a dbms sometime
L186[10:46:29] <Kristo​pher38> and this might happen in lua
L187[11:19:21] <Izaya> something I've wanted to do for a bit too
L188[11:19:23] <Izaya> >.>
L189[11:59:44] <AR2​000> >Durex77: Without docker it's really hard to use windows for developers. There are …
L190[11:59:44] <AR2​000> I would have no problem with docker on wsl, but docker on windows is weird. The idea of docker is to share a Linux kernel with multiple containers.
L191[12:12:49] <lunar_sam> Izaya: i've thought about this
L192[12:13:07] * Amanda meows and looks around
L193[12:13:33] <lunar_sam> i've also thought about just programming again in general
L194[12:13:51] <lunar_sam> been meaning to write binding generators for torque3d
L195[12:13:57] <Izaya> I patched a rimworld mod in C#
L196[12:14:02] <Izaya> that's my programming project for the year
L197[12:14:05] <lunar_sam> so i can automagically make FFI bindings
L198[12:14:10] <Izaya> now I can sleep for the rest
L199[12:14:30] <lunar_sam> because speed
L200[12:14:51] <Amanda> [ and so the Izaya entered hibernation, until the next summer ]
L201[12:15:02] <lunar_sam> and i don't want to write torquescript
L202[12:15:34] <lunar_sam> if you think to yourself "sam this seems like a lot of work to not write a language"
L203[12:15:48] <lunar_sam> just remember i did this for byond but it was quite a bit more involved
L204[12:17:17] <Izaya> sane people don't even touch byond
L205[12:17:38] <lunar_sam> yeah i wrote c++ to not write DM
L206[12:17:51] <lunar_sam> (i still had to write some DM)
L207[12:27:29] <Amanda> Dream-amanda thinks stabile diffusion can be used against a business's ledger to try and identify potentially-loyal customers to maximize profits
L208[12:38:21] <Amanda> Elfi~ help~ the capitalists have invaded my dreams
L209[12:40:19] <Meow​More> Guys i really need your help.I have two computers.One of them is listening on port 12 and i want to send data from another computer without broadcast(i want to use send method).I dont know how to give it an address.I installed "network" on both computers but "ifconfig" command is not binding address.What should i do?
L210[12:40:24] <Izaya> Amanda: that seems like a task for more conventional maths
L211[12:45:45] <Amanda> @MeowMore meow meow meow
L212[12:46:30] <Amanda> @MeowMore anyway, you don't set the address, it's the component address of the network card you can see with the `components` command
L213[12:49:11] <Izaya> Does anyone know how the network disk ... works?
L214[12:49:22] <Meow​More> >Amanda: <@817462024610381855> anyway, you don't set the address, it's the component…
L215[12:49:22] <Meow​More> Ok but anytime i want to send data to a computer i have to rewrite its address?It is way too long😆
L216[12:49:45] <Amanda> Store it in a variable
L217[12:49:59] <Amanda> And that way you don't need to change it in a bunch of places
L218[12:50:11] <Meow​More> What if i want to add another computer or 20 computer for example
L219[12:50:24] <Amanda> Then you're probably better off just using broadcast
L220[12:50:29] <Meow​More> Computers*
L221[12:50:42] <Meow​More> >Amanda: Then you're probably better off just using broadcast
L222[12:50:42] <Meow​More> Hmm ok
L223[12:50:50] <Amanda> send isn't instant, 20x computers meaans 20x the time to send
L224[12:53:52] <Forec​aster> also more power used
L225[12:54:13] <Forec​aster> not that that's usually a concern
L226[12:54:41] <Forec​aster> also 20 computer is way too much computer
L227[12:55:33] <Izaya> unless you are doing distributed inventory search
L228[12:55:45] <Izaya> then it could be about the right amount for ... 100 inventories or so
L229[13:02:27] <Amanda> *100 inventory
L230[13:24:04] <Forec​aster> hrm, Cosmoteer apparently doesn't let you load a save when objects from mods are missing
L231[13:24:27] <Amanda> Anyway, From 0900 to 1400 I may be gone. the power company rescheduled the line work they were planning
L232[13:24:50] <Amanda> And it doesn't look like I'll get saved from powerlessness by a typhoon's corpse again
L233[13:25:00] <Dur​ex77> @Izaya
L234[13:25:01] <Dur​ex77> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736848695403872387/782681740199985197/unknown.png
L235[13:25:04] <Amanda> Might as well use this time to plug in my battery backup
L236[13:25:15] <Dur​ex77> It's enough one computer to handle 100+ inventories
L237[13:26:04] <Dur​ex77> You can even use robot to move items between chests
L238[13:26:29] <Dur​ex77> with this approach the number of inventories is unlimited. But still you need to store data somewhere
L239[13:27:07] <Dur​ex77> In my storage system I use transposers to move items between chests
L240[13:27:30] <Dur​ex77> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/736848695403872387/782681695988088872/unknown.png
L241[13:29:08] <Dur​ex77> I thought about distributed way but in OC network communication is way to expensive
L242[13:30:04] <Forec​aster> you just have to be efficient
L243[13:30:15] <Dur​ex77> It's not enough
L244[13:30:24] <Dur​ex77> there are way to many data.
L245[13:30:57] <Dur​ex77> To handle everything a lot of different libs should be written
L246[13:31:28] <Dur​ex77> You need a good database with disk persistence.
L247[13:32:01] <Dur​ex77> There are not enough RAM to store everything in one place so you need to split it in a different files
L248[13:32:12] <Amanda> Izaya's system doesn't persist it IIRC
L249[13:32:32] <Amanda> It queries the transposers then dumps the results to the stream as an lzss compressed result
L250[13:32:45] <Dur​ex77> It's because Izaya use Storage drawers
L251[13:32:53] <Dur​ex77> it handle everything for him
L252[13:33:25] <Izaya> I mean
L253[13:33:28] <Izaya> no
L254[13:33:31] <Izaya> :)
L255[13:33:50] <Amanda> storage drawers appear to OC as just a giant inventory
L256[13:34:08] <Izaya> you're not bothering to comprehend what people are saying
L257[13:36:23] <Izaya> with storage drawers, if I did dump the entire inventory into a table, my server would OOM, given the max slots is...
L258[13:37:32] <Izaya> 29996 slots
L259[13:38:13] <Dur​ex77> In my storage I store data in files
L260[13:38:17] <Dur​ex77> https://tinyurl.com/2gm4mxly
L261[13:38:20] <Izaya> yes
L262[13:38:23] <Amanda> Izaya's system stores no data
L263[13:38:23] <Dur​ex77> each item is a separate file
L264[13:38:42] <Dur​ex77> Ye and because of that his system is limited
L265[13:38:56] <Dur​ex77> he can't do very efficient autocraft
L266[13:39:02] <Kristo​pher38> are we comparing virtual dicks or what
L267[13:39:26] <Dur​ex77> what do u mean?
L268[13:39:34] <Amanda> I thought of making a meta-server for izaya's DSS that pretends to be a DSS and passes through, providing crafting that way
L269[13:39:50] <Amanda> but never got around to it
L270[13:40:04] <Izaya> you're gonna have to lay that assertation out for me
L271[13:41:34] <lunar_sam> qhat the fuck
L272[13:41:56] <Forec​aster> quantum hat
L273[13:42:30] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk
L274[13:42:30] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Redston​eParkour! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 13 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L275[13:42:31] <MichiBot> RedstoneParkour's new record is 3 hours, 13 minutes and 6 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00322)
L276[13:43:58] <Izaya> assertion, I guess
L277[13:44:01] <CompanionCube> .....goddammit it
L278[13:44:36] * CompanionCube was just looking
L279[13:48:56] <Redston​eParkour> also Durex77: each file on a managed filesystem takes up some predefined space (512 bytes i think) so it would be better to try to use a single file for all items
L280[13:49:26] <Amanda> Yeah lots of little files uses up more space then the same amount of data in one big file
L281[13:51:15] <Forec​aster> one file per individual item, so up to 64 files per stack!
L282[13:51:58] <Izaya> unless you do introduce storage drawers, then it could be 131072 files per stack :D
L283[13:52:06] <Izaya> * I do not remember how far you can upgrade them
L284[13:52:51] <Redston​eParkour> unless you introduce AE2, then it can be literally infinite files per stack!
L285[13:54:08] <Amanda> %choose curl up with a story or stay online as long as possible
L286[13:54:08] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "curl up with a story"
L287[13:54:22] <Amanda> Right, be back whenever the power comes back I gues
L288[13:54:38] <Izaya> enjoy
L289[13:57:25] <lunar_sam> also, do note you don't have to load the entire file into memory
L290[13:57:29] <lunar_sam> you can seek around in the file
L291[13:59:03] <Izaya> the io library handles caching
L292[13:59:13] <Forec​aster> or if you're a cat, open the file, then close it again
L293[14:00:58] <Forec​aster> %sip
L294[14:00:58] <MichiBot> You drink a concentrated jumbonium potion (New!). Forecaster looks up and sees the moon smile at them for a second.
L295[14:36:47] <Amanda> Huh. I thought the power would be out by now
L296[14:36:57] <Forec​aster> the suspense
L297[14:36:58] <Amanda> And I'm out of story to read
L298[14:37:18] <Izaya> had a day like that the other day
L299[14:37:22] <Forec​aster> just find more story
L300[14:37:37] <Izaya> "the power will go out on DAY at TIME" "alright" *power doesn't go out*
L301[14:38:16] <Forec​aster> https://youtube.com/shorts/KWmaIZrBE2w?feature=share
L302[15:29:02] <AR2​000> In my solution I never stored what I had in the single chest/storage
L303[15:29:03] <AR2​000> I just looked for the item I needed when needed for a craft. It wasn't too slow and didn't use too much RAM.
L304[15:29:03] <AR2​000> The RAM intensive part was the dictionary of ID->english name. I stored it anyway for persistance
L305[15:29:55] <AR2​000> It was really something bodged together. It worked, found a memory leak in OC (fixed now after I reported it). It's just slow
L306[15:32:48] <Redston​eParkour> %tonk
L307[15:32:48] <MichiBot> I'm sorry RedstoneParkour, you were not able to beat RedstoneParkour's record of 3 hours, 13 minutes and 6 seconds this time. 1 hour, 50 minutes and 18 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 22 minutes and 47 seconds!
L308[15:40:30] <Amanda> %remindme 45m check on waypoint
L309[15:40:31] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check on waypoint" in 45m at 01/13/2023 04:25:30 PM
L310[15:44:10] ⇦ Quits: Amanda (~m-yt727s@2601:46:c603:aba1:76d3:9987:ef17:ad26) (Ping timeout: 189 seconds)
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L312[15:57:22] ⇦ Quits: Amanda (~m-yt727s@2601:46:c603:aba1:343b:368e:d79c:8523) (Ping timeout: 189 seconds)
L313[16:01:34] ⇦ Quits: kektagen1 (~kektagen@2602:ffc5:200:3c00::1) (Quit: Heading off)
L314[16:25:31] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check on waypoint
L315[16:35:23] <Forec​aster> %sip
L316[16:35:24] <MichiBot> You drink a woolly green potion (New!). Forecaster has a single tear roll down their cheek for some reason.
L317[16:36:18] <Forec​aster> it's because I have no more pizza
L318[16:37:08] <Dur​ex77> @AR2000 But it does not work when you have 50 chest (each chest 100+ slots)
L319[16:42:33] <AR2​000> >Durex77: <@256917157559009281> But it does not work when you have 50 chest (each c…
L320[16:42:33] <AR2​000> As it is, it can't handle more that one chest. I don't have a algo to move items around multiples chests
L321[16:42:33] <AR2​000> And I just never had enough recipes / translated names to hit the RAM limit yet. It will, and wil crash.
L322[16:42:43] <AR2​000> It's really not robust enough
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L324[16:50:22] <amandac> You'll never guess what happen
L325[16:50:51] * amandac flops down around Elfi, grumbling about power maintence
L326[16:50:57] <Forec​aster> you suddenly got twice the power?
L327[16:51:20] <amandac> I wish. They finally started working like 15m after I decided "Meh, they probably canceled again"
L328[16:54:24] <amandac> %choose update laptop on cell?
L329[16:54:24] <MichiBot> ama​ndac: Are you sure? Well alright.
L330[16:54:29] <amandac> Guess not
L331[16:55:12] <amandac> Maybe I should buy a cheap vps for my matrix shit
L332[16:55:33] <amandac> So I have something to do more easily when the house is without power/internet
L333[16:57:38] <amandac> I wonder if anything actually uses the "metered connection" detection/config from networkmanager
L334[16:57:57] <amandac> Apparently my bluetooth tether to my phone is detected as a metered connection
L335[17:06:28] <Forec​aster> probably assumes it is since it's bluetooth
L336[17:06:51] <amandac> Possibly.
L337[17:10:52] <Forec​aster> how nice of OBS to tell me it failed to download update files and have the only option be "Exit"
L338[17:11:07] <Forec​aster> if only someone had invented the concept of re-trying
L339[17:11:25] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/2hpof2y2
L340[17:12:20] <Forec​aster> instead you have to exit, re-launch OBS, "oh hey, there's an update! who knew?!"
L341[17:13:39] <Forec​aster> guess I'll just download and install the latest version myself
L342[18:10:55] <amandac> Hrm, maybe building a new VM image while on a metered cellular network wouldn't be smart
L343[18:13:04] <amandac> Damn power company's going to actually end up running til 1400 aren't they...
L344[18:20:58] <amandac> %choose halucinate or continue poking at vm image
L345[18:20:58] <MichiBot> ama​ndac: Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "continue poking at vm image"!
L346[18:29:12] <Forec​aster> That's a lot of running
L347[18:42:54] <amandac> Well, the power company has 18m
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L349[18:52:03] ⇦ Quits: ThePiGuy24 (~ThePiGuy2@84.66.175.57) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L350[18:57:24] <Forec​aster> Psh, I could run 18 meters in no time at all
L351[18:57:54] <Forec​aster> and then die from over exhaustion...
L352[19:22:31] <amandac> ... fml
L353[19:22:42] <amandac> Checked the power company's app "Assessing Damage"
L354[19:22:56] <amandac> tell me the fucking tree-trimming people cut the wire or something. >.<
L355[19:24:34] <Forec​aster> It was the tree
L356[19:27:46] <Redston​eParkour> %tonkout
L357[19:27:46] <MichiBot> Woah! Redston​eParkour! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 13 minutes and 6 seconds (By 41 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L358[19:27:47] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.02093, Position #7 => #5 (Overtook SquidDev) Need 0.03248 more points to pass Mic​hiyo!
L359[19:28:04] <Redston​eParkour> wait
L360[19:28:10] <Redston​eParkour> %ammocount
L361[19:28:11] <MichiBot> Redston​eParkour: You have 1 Blue Shell, 3 Red Shells, 5 Green Shells, and 2 Bricks
L362[19:58:28] <amandac> Let there be light!
L363[19:58:30] <amandac> brb
L364[19:58:33] ⇦ Quits: amandac (~amandac@216.sub-174-247-80.myvzw.com) (Quit: WeeChat 3.7.1)
L365[20:00:52] ⇨ Joins: Amanda (~m-yt727s@2601:46:c601:ef1:1fd7:e9e4:c81b:d949)
L366[20:11:56] <Amanda> Oh good, the IP changed. :D
L367[20:16:29] * Amanda flops back down around Elfi
L368[20:41:26] <SquidDev> %tonk
L369[20:41:26] <MichiBot> Yay! Squi​dDev! You beat Redston​eParkour's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 13 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L370[20:41:27] <MichiBot> SquidDev's new record is 1 hour, 13 minutes and 40 seconds! SquidDev also gained 0.00123 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #6 => #5. (Overtook RedstoneParkour) Need 0.03194 more points to pass Mic​hiyo!
L371[21:09:07] <Amanda> %remindme 25m check on bot
L372[21:09:07] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check on bot" in 25m at 01/13/2023 09:34:07 PM
L373[21:25:44] <Amanda> %choose candy or iced creams
L374[21:25:44] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: You *could* do "iced creams", I guess.
L375[21:34:07] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check on bot
L376[22:42:56] <Amanda> %p
L377[22:42:57] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.23s
L378[23:42:24] <Mic​hiyo> %tonk
L379[23:42:25] <MichiBot> Hooray! Mic​hiyo! You beat Squi​dDev's previous record of 1 hour, 13 minutes and 40 seconds (By 1 hour, 47 minutes and 18 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L380[23:42:26] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 3 hours and 58 seconds! Michiyo also gained 0.00358 (0.00179 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4 => #3. (Overtook Vaur) Need 0.0497 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L381[23:57:35] * Amanda curls up around Elfi, reads stories to her since she's finished converting 3/4th of her vms to debian now
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