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L1[00:23:11] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: laptopnaptime
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L4[00:47:37] * Amanda curls up around Elfi, reads some more cute egg stories to her before it's zzzmewtime
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L9[01:31:50] <Amanda> %choose 🎮 or ☢️
L10[01:31:50] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I've heard "🎮" is in these days
L11[01:32:02] <Amanda> %8ball am I in?
L12[01:32:02] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Reply hazy, try again
L13[01:32:25] <Amanda> %8ball low-temp goat kitten?
L14[01:32:25] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Without a doubt
L15[01:33:26] <Amanda> Elfi~ the foxen went and made my room super humid!
L16[01:34:23] <Amanda> 63% humidity according to the sensor
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L18[02:48:59] <Mimic​Spider> How could I learn to code the computers for the mod myself
L19[03:11:59] <Izaya> %pil
L20[03:11:59] <MichiBot> https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html#P1
L21[04:10:36] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L22[04:10:36] <MichiBot> Blast! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 54 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L23[04:10:37] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 54 minutes and 21 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00691)
L24[04:43:49] <FLO​RANA> so i recently just moved my SkyFactory4 world to my ARM(aarch64) server and i saw this message:
L25[04:43:49] <FLO​RANA> `OpenComputers: Native Lua Libraries are not available. computers will not be able to persist their state. They will reboot on chunk reloads.`
L26[04:44:19] <FLO​RANA> how do i get said native libraries for my server?
L27[05:10:46] <CompanionCube> what cpu architecture are you usiny
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L30[05:48:39] <Va​ur> %sip
L31[05:48:39] <MichiBot> You drink a basic adamantium potion (New!). Vaur turns into a blue shark goat girl for 5 seconds.
L32[05:54:10] <FLO​RANA> i said it was aarch64
L33[05:55:16] <FLO​RANA> aka the 64-bit version of the ARM CPU
L34[05:59:58] <Mic​hiyo> Pretty sure they meant which *OC* Arch...
L35[06:00:07] <Mic​hiyo> As in the Lua versioln
L36[06:01:50] <Mic​hiyo> Pretty sure you're going to need to build this https://github.com/MightyPirates/OC-Eris on your machine
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L39[06:38:09] <asie> @FLORANA or upgrade to the 1.8.0 snapshot version
L40[06:38:17] <asie> that one should have built-in aarch64 support
L41[06:38:22] <asie> (and it needs more testing)
L42[06:38:35] <asie> of course, if you're running a modpack for people, that might prove tricky
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L44[08:16:02] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Forecaster: Crash reports aren't code
L45[08:16:02] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Well I had a friend who knows code and he said the crash report has code in it
L46[08:17:22] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Nadja: Yep, we aren't your private tech support channel. Door's to your left if that revel…
L47[08:17:22] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Dont be so ableist
L48[08:43:11] <luna​r_sam> why do i always miss the fun
L49[08:43:28] <luna​r_sam> >DiamondCreeper_6: Dont be so ableist
L50[08:43:29] <luna​r_sam> also what did they mean by this
L51[09:00:20] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >lunar_sam: also what did they mean by this
L52[09:00:20] <DiamondC​reeper_6> They dont believe im adhd and they made fun of me for it
L53[09:02:02] <The P​atmann> Sir, you may have ADHD, but you've also been asking for more technical support here than any other person has in my recent memory. Some of the devs here have ADHD but that doesn't preclude them from being able to read crash-reports, which you seem to be saying (in a quite ableist way I might add) means they can't read and understand the reports.
L54[09:02:06] <luna​r_sam> >DiamondCreeper_6: They dont believe im adhd and they made fun of me for it
L55[09:02:06] <luna​r_sam> you don't attempt to read crash logs, 'tis but a skill issue
L56[09:02:18] <The P​atmann> This **is** a skill issue, and not a matter of you being unable
L57[09:02:39] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Wow ableist
L58[09:02:52] <The P​atmann> Cut the crap, figure out how stuff works, and come back when you understand things better
L59[09:03:33] <The P​atmann> The people here have been far more accommodating than you need
L60[09:03:43] <luna​r_sam> google is free, after all
L61[09:03:57] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >The Patmann: Cut the crap, figure out how stuff works, and come back when you understand things …
L62[09:03:57] <DiamondC​reeper_6> And stop being an ableist
L63[09:04:03] <The P​atmann> Your problem isn't your ADHD, it's your laziness
L64[09:04:31] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >The Patmann: Your problem isn't your ADHD, it's your laziness
L65[09:04:31] <DiamondC​reeper_6> You dont even fucking understand me irl
L66[09:04:33] <The P​atmann> I have known plenty of people with ADHD and autism, none have needed the level of support you have.
L67[09:04:53] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >The Patmann: I have known plenty of people with ADHD and autism, none have needed the level of s…
L68[09:04:53] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Doesn't not mean it always was this way
L69[09:04:56] <The P​atmann> You're using that as a defense, and I'm tired of it
L70[09:05:38] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Blocked
L71[09:05:48] <The P​atmann> Good
L72[09:05:57] <DiamondC​reeper_6> We as gen z dont tolerate abeilism
L73[09:06:21] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Nor hate
L74[09:06:34] <The P​atmann> lol, okay buddy
L75[09:07:18] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Bruh whats the point of sending messages when I cant even see them anymore
L76[09:07:31] <The P​atmann> You responded, therefore you can still see them, can't you
L77[09:07:44] <DiamondC​reeper_6> 💀 💀
L78[09:07:52] <The P​atmann> I'm a lil' tipsy, and find this entire ordeal amusing
L79[09:08:07] <DiamondC​reeper_6> ...
L80[09:08:50] <DiamondC​reeper_6> And i actually tried reading the crash reports and still cant understand them
L81[09:09:17] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Is that not even proof?
L82[09:09:23] <The P​atmann> How well do you know how OpenComputers functions?
L83[09:09:45] <The P​atmann> If it's a complete mystery to you, reading the reports might not be very easy to decipher
L84[09:09:53] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Until you stop the hate ill leave you blocked
L85[09:10:02] <The P​atmann> Genuine question btw
L86[09:10:17] <The P​atmann> If you're a novice, crash-reports are going to be arcane to you
L87[09:10:32] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Imma go to bed. Peace out
L88[09:10:37] <DiamondC​reeper_6> 💤
L89[09:10:41] <The P​atmann> Aight
L90[09:10:56] <The P​atmann> I'm gonna scroll through the crash reports and figure out what I can for ya
L91[09:11:16] <The P​atmann> No promises to find anything useful, but your nattering about "hatred" and "ableism" has me intrigued
L92[09:11:40] <The P​atmann> Hopefully you can get some use out of me before you get banned for being annoying and slanderous
L93[09:15:01] <The P​atmann> Aight, so from what it looks like, EpicFight is causing the crash. It might be an improper integration with Optifine, it might just be shit code. But that's definitely the source of your crash according to that log
L94[09:15:16] <The P​atmann> Furthermore, if you're running it in 1.12, that version has been discontinued.
L95[09:15:21] <luna​r_sam> literally google issues
L96[09:15:27] <The P​atmann> This entire thing took me less than 5 seconds of googling
L97[09:15:44] <The P​atmann> It's almost like you're lazy, and not actually incapable...
L98[09:16:16] <Izaya> > read stack trace
L99[09:16:18] <Izaya> > look for mod names
L100[09:16:27] <Izaya> > look for the one at the end
L101[09:16:29] <Izaya> > blame them
L102[09:16:31] <Izaya> ez
L103[09:17:23] <The P​atmann> That *is* the literal process I used :P
L104[09:18:05] <The P​atmann> Also, this is not the place to ask about support for this issue. This crash is 100% unrelated to opencomputers
L105[09:18:32] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >lunar_sam: literally google issues
L106[09:18:32] <DiamondC​reeper_6> All google did is gave me useless websites. Anyways just wanna say something before bed
L107[09:19:17] <The P​atmann> Really?
L108[09:19:40] <The P​atmann> 'cause the first result for me was the Epic Fight mod, and when I looked in their FAQ it told me the 1.12 version was discontinued
L109[09:20:06] <The P​atmann> ergo no longer being supported, ergo if it crashes you aren't getting any support from anyone
L110[09:21:05] <The P​atmann> if you *absolutely* need help with this, and are 100% unable of doing it yourself. Go bug these guys at the correct discord for it https://discord.gg/NbAJwj8RHg
L111[09:21:17] <The P​atmann> Don't expect any more help though
L112[09:26:23] <Na​dja> >DiamondCreeper_6: Dont be so ableist
L113[09:26:23] <Na​dja> Pfff I'm not ableist, I just have zero tolerance for bullshit. I very much believe you that you have ADHD and that it affects a lot of your ability to do some things. But you're still responsible for being a nice person yourself. And you weren't.
L114[09:27:38] <The P​atmann> The funny thing is that he got so butthurt that he won't see my actual help
L115[09:28:02] <Na​dja> >The Patmann: Your problem isn't your ADHD, it's your laziness
L116[09:28:02] <Na​dja> still, this is a shit take.
L117[09:29:05] <Na​dja> Because chances are *you* very much can't distinguish another person's "laziness" from what's due to their ADHD.
L118[09:29:12] <The P​atmann> Aight, I can maybe see that. It's possible it's affected his ability to learn about the stuff relevant.
L119[09:29:29] <The P​atmann> Still, given his behavior here, I very much doubt it's his ADHD to blame
L120[09:29:54] <Na​dja> >The Patmann: I have known plenty of people with ADHD and autism, none have needed the…
L121[09:29:55] <Na​dja> And this is *actually* an ableist take. Different people need different (levels & kinds of) support
L122[09:31:29] <Na​dja> >The Patmann: Still, given his behavior here, I very much doubt it's his ADHD to blame
L123[09:31:29] <Na​dja> I mean. ADHD also has impulsiveness as symptom, especially of the emotional kind. So no, maybe them being assholes was actually partially due to their ADHD. You're still allowed to show them the door and give them a strong shove out of it.
L124[09:32:22] <The P​atmann> Aight, Yeah... I can see how my judgement probably wasn't the best there
L125[09:32:58] <The P​atmann> Him being an impulsive kid with hardly any patience could be related to his ADHD. Yeah
L126[09:33:37] <Na​dja> Don't worry about it too much, dealing with neurodivergent people can be *infuriating*. Still, it's good to be kind ^^
L127[09:33:59] <Na​dja> And you don't have to tolerate shittyness, no matter where it comes from.
L128[09:34:08] <The P​atmann> Seeing him throwing that around as a defense was pretty annoying though
L129[09:34:18] <Na​dja> Yeah totally, it's annoying as fuck.
L130[09:35:20] <Na​dja> But the correct answer would still be "I don't care why you're an asshole, we don't tolerate them" and not "no, this isn't due to your X"
L131[09:36:36] <The P​atmann> Fair enough, the tact I took definitely does come off as ableist looking back. And that's the last thing we need when we're trying to get him to shove off and be less of an ass
L132[09:36:40] <Na​dja> Because ADHD can totally also manifest as learning disability if the people don't get the correct kind of support. It's not a direct symptom of their ADHD but it is a direct result of it.
L133[09:36:56] <luna​r_sam> https://tinyurl.com/2eyqq5rb
L134[09:37:37] <The P​atmann> Yeah, and my friend who actually probably had it worse from the sheer number of developmental issues *did* have a potentially better support network than he does
L135[09:38:13] <The P​atmann> He might not have Dyslexia, Dysgraphia, ADHD and Autism, but his ADHD might affect him more than my friend's disabilities affected them...
L136[09:38:38] <The P​atmann> The comparison wasn't necessarily apt, and I probably shouldn't have made it
L137[09:39:09] <Na​dja> Also DiamondCreeper_6 may just be really young and not have had time to learn to work around their disability.
L138[09:39:25] <The P​atmann> That's also possible
L139[09:39:30] <Na​dja> And your friend had. And/Or had explicit support to learn that
L140[09:40:03] <The P​atmann> *nods*
L141[09:41:42] <The P​atmann> yeah, and him wearing being Gen Z as a badge of honor means he's probs on the younger end of it too
L142[09:42:57] <The P​atmann> I shouldn't judge him too hard about the developmental stuff. Even though the tact he took with the people here wasn't acceptable.
L143[09:51:43] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Nadja: And this is *actually* an ableist take. Different people need different (levels & k…
L144[09:51:43] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Thanks. Sorry about accusing you of being ableist 😔
L145[09:52:52] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >The Patmann: yeah, and him wearing being Gen Z as a badge of honor means he's probs on the young…
L146[09:52:52] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Im actually 20 but still cant get around my disabilities
L147[09:53:07] <Na​dja> don't worry about it. But do keep in mind that we aren't and can't be your support network.
L148[09:53:30] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Ive barely had support by my parents most of my life
L149[09:53:31] <Na​dja> If you can't work around your disabilities on your own you need professional help, something none of us can provide you.
L150[09:53:33] <The P​atmann> Yeah, sorry about giving you as much shit as I did about it. That was uncalled for
L151[09:53:53] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >The Patmann: Yeah, sorry about giving you as much shit as I did about it. That was uncalled for
L152[09:53:53] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Its fine dude. Sorry for my anger
L153[09:53:57] <The P​atmann> FWIW, you're just a couple years younger than me and my friend
L154[09:54:53] <The P​atmann> Kinda hard to realize just how good we have it. Even though I've traveled worldwide, it's still kinda hard to get out from my own little bubble
L155[09:55:33] <The P​atmann> As DQ said tho, the peeps here don't have the time and resources necessary to help you out here.
L156[09:55:51] <Na​dja> Is DQ my rapper name now? :P
L157[09:56:05] <The P​atmann> Heh, If you prefer Nadja rn, that's cool
L158[09:56:35] <Na​dja> I'm fine with all variations. And I don't as much "prefer Nadja" as that just being my legal name :P
L159[09:56:48] <The P​atmann> Gotcha
L160[09:56:52] <Na​dja> I just started using it more lately ^^
L161[09:57:02] <The P​atmann> Ah, I see!
L162[09:58:02] <The P​atmann> Your best bet @DiamondCreeper_6 is heading to that discord I linked. That's the official discord for the mod that's causing your crash. Maybe, **just maybe** they might have squashed that issue in the past
L163[09:58:26] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >The Patmann: As DQ said tho, the peeps here don't have the time and resources necessary to help …
L164[09:58:26] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Well that's fine. Got help from 2 other discord channel
L165[09:58:35] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Channels*
L166[09:59:15] <DiamondC​reeper_6> I hang around 2 discord servers which is based around 2 mods
L167[09:59:26] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Techguns and galacticraft
L168[09:59:32] <Na​dja> Honestly thinking about it there is probably a self-help Discord Guild for ADHD too, judging how it's used nowadays. Maybe that's something for you too ^^
L169[10:03:50] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Nadja: Yep, we aren't your private tech support channel. Door's to your left if that revel…
L170[10:03:51] <DiamondC​reeper_6> I even have a hard time seeing if a person is being an ableist or not. I end up overeacting and point my anger at others without purpose
L171[10:04:08] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Sorry
L172[10:05:26] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >The Patmann: FWIW, you're just a couple years younger than me and my friend
L173[10:05:26] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Same with my older sister
L174[10:06:02] <Na​dja> >DiamondCreeper_6: I even have a hard time seeing if a person is being an ableist or not. I…
L175[10:06:03] <Na​dja> Really, don't worry about it. I didn't take it personally and as I said, emotional impulsiveness is something associated with ADHD. Do you know the posts by the ADHD Alien? :)
L176[10:06:31] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Nadja: Really, don't worry about it. I didn't take it personally and as I said, emotional …
L177[10:06:31] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Idk who adhd alien is
L178[10:07:22] <Na​dja> >DiamondCreeper_6: Idk who adhd alien is
L179[10:07:22] <Na​dja> http://adhd-alien.com/ Here, enjoy. It's a wonderful resource to feel seen and also to talk to other people about issues stemming from ADHD.
L180[10:08:17] <Na​dja> There are a few more comics of her that apparently aren't on that site, lemme look for them real quick
L181[10:08:30] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Thanks ^^
L182[10:09:13] <Na​dja> I guess their twitter is the best source, so https://twitter.com/ADHD_Alien/status/1182670794633207813?s=20&t=fXsecF_9bpWRCnYyodf_SA
L183[10:09:43] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Imma try and go to bed since unfortunately I got yard work to do with my father tomorrow
L184[10:09:55] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Nadja: I guess their twitter is the best source, so https://twitter.com/ADHD_Alien/status/���
L185[10:09:55] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Thank you
L186[10:10:03] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Goodnight
L187[10:10:07] <DiamondC​reeper_6> 😁
L188[10:10:12] <Na​dja> Good night, sleep well :)
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L192[11:19:14] <Amanda> Hey @Inari stop slipping weird stuff into my drinking water. This is the second time in the last week I had a weird dream involving friends
L193[11:19:35] <Corded> * <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> checks titanium oxide off of the list of things to try
L194[11:22:01] <Amanda> This time instead of Elfi: being my sister/aunt it was me trying to court dequbed while talking about genitals as CPU arches
L195[11:22:38] <dequbed> Amanda: … I have *several* additional questions.
L196[11:27:44] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> haha
L197[11:27:54] <Amanda> dequbed: gave more details in the matrix dm we have
L198[11:28:03] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> wow
L199[11:28:07] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> now you sliding into DMs already, smh
L200[11:28:39] * Amanda sprays @Inari with fox mace
L201[11:28:52] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> fox whatnow
L202[11:29:34] <Amanda> ... is mace a brand-name that got Kleenexed?
L203[11:29:47] <dequbed> Yep
L204[11:33:52] <Amanda> Ah. @Inari it's a brand of pepper spray meant for self defense
L205[11:35:02] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> I see
L206[11:35:10] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> the hell is kleenexed
L207[11:37:41] <Amanda> @inari Kleenex is a brand of tissue paper which got so synonymous with tissue paper that they actually ended up losing their trademark. It's why Google doesn't want people saying "just Google it" when talking about anything other than their search engine
L208[11:40:51] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> ah, kinda like Tempo
L209[11:43:46] <Na​dja> >Inari 「オ兄デレ」「狐っ娘」: ah, kinda like Tempo
L210[11:43:47] <Na​dja> Or the most ubiquitous example in german: Fön. Fön/Foen is the brand (named after the alpine wind phenomen), the actual object is a Haartrockner.
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L212[11:52:54] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> >Nadja: Or the most ubiquitous example in german: Fön. Fön/Foen is the brand (named after th…
L213[11:52:55] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> huh, never knew that hah
L214[11:57:04] <Amanda> Huh, I thought Kleenex lost their TM in europe, specifically germany, so I figured it would be more well known
L215[12:28:26] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> don't think anyone here really says kleenex
L216[12:31:49] <stephan48> here its mostly "tempo"
L217[12:32:30] <Amanda> Hrm
L218[12:35:42] <dequbed> Amanda: Germany has *fun* laws regarding trademarks but it's one of those things that really only happen in the background so it's not specifically known like that. Everybody just knows that saying "Tempo" instead of "Papiertaschentuch" is okay. People don't really worry about the trademark rights of big corporations :P
L219[12:39:00] <Amanda> fair
L220[12:39:12] <Amanda> %choose factory or explore
L221[12:39:12] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: My grandfather always told me that "explore" is the way to go!
L222[12:40:45] <Amanda> Hrm. Nah, the factory must ~~grow~~ stop stalling on iron
L223[12:41:35] <ThePi​Guy24> here theyre just called tissues because idk they just are
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L226[13:30:13] <Izaya> Amanda: I believe another common term is "xeroxed" because xerox even lost the brand name from people referring to photocopying as xeroxing in the US
L227[13:34:30] <Amanda> ah yeah, true
L228[13:34:51] <Izaya> interestingly, I think it varies strongly between regions
L229[13:35:07] <Izaya> nobody refers to photocopying as xeroxing here
L230[13:35:10] <Amanda> makes sense
L231[13:35:25] <Izaya> we have some of our own but I don't remember them off the top of my head
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L236[15:24:19] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Nadja: Or the most ubiquitous example in german: Fön. Fön/Foen is the brand (named after t…
L237[15:24:19] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Mornin
L238[15:38:12] <Va​ur> %tonk
L239[15:38:13] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 6 hours, 54 minutes and 21 seconds (By 4 hours, 33 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L240[15:38:13] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 11 hours, 27 minutes and 36 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.03185 (0.00455 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L241[15:42:56] <DiamondC​reeper_6> %sip
L242[15:42:57] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant pearlpeas potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! It sent a message to all of DiamondCreeper_6's friends telling them that they love them!
L243[16:10:20] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >The Patmann: He might not have Dyslexia, Dysgraphia, ADHD and Autism, but his ADHD might affect …
L244[16:10:20] <DiamondC​reeper_6> I maybe late to this reply but I actually do have autism
L245[16:10:39] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Been diagnosed with it at the age of 2
L246[16:15:59] <ThePi​Guy24> being diagnosed at 2 seems very unlikely
L247[16:17:19] <Na​dja> >ThePiGuy24: being diagnosed at 2 seems very unlikely
L248[16:17:20] <Na​dja> Since when are you a licensed psychiatrist? :o
L249[16:18:47] <ThePi​Guy24> im not, but i am someone who is diagnosed with autism (diagnosed at 8), so i do have some authority on the matter
L250[16:20:12] <Na​dja> Well the WHO disagrees with you vehemently and I trust them significantly more than some random british teen. Consider the fact that even if you have a particular affliction you can know fuckall about it and be very much talking out of your ass.
L251[16:21:30] <ThePi​Guy24> from: https://tinyurl.com/2hjdjjcb
L252[16:21:32] <Na​dja> A positive diagnosis by a trained psychologists of ASD at 24 months is considered very reliable. A negative one is worth nothing.
L253[16:21:57] <ThePi​Guy24> while it is *possible*, it isnt likely nor common
L254[16:22:15] <Na​dja> >ThePiGuy24: from: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/autism-spectrum-d���
L255[16:22:15] <Na​dja> And if you would bother to read even the slightest amount beyond that you'd see that autism can be diagnosed as early as 6 months.
L256[16:22:42] <ThePi​Guy24> cab be != commonly is
L257[16:22:45] <ThePi​Guy24> *can
L258[16:22:50] <Na​dja> >ThePiGuy24: while it is *possible*, it isnt likely nor common
L259[16:22:50] <Na​dja> Maybe it isn't where you're born. But don't project your upbrinding to others.
L260[16:23:13] <Na​dja> Being diagnosed at 2 is many things but very much not "very unlikely".
L261[16:24:15] <Na​dja> Given that any reasonably trained pediatrician will be able to recognize indications of ASD in their patients and be able to recommend the parents visit a child psychologist.
L262[16:25:14] <ThePi​Guy24> >Nadja: And if you would bother to read even the slightest amount beyond that you'd s…
L263[16:25:14] <ThePi​Guy24> would you mind citing your sources as i cannot find this
L264[16:28:36] <Ocawes​ome101> ^ i glanced through the article and just saw "early childhood"
L265[16:32:02] <Na​dja> >ThePiGuy24: would you mind citing your sources as i cannot find this
L266[16:32:03] <Na​dja> https://applications.emro.who.int/docs/EMRPUB_leaflet_2019_mnh_215_en.pdf?ua=1&ua=1 And I'm not digging up the original medical articles just to show you are talking out of your ass on this one, that's just not worth my time.
L267[16:32:40] <Kristo​pher38> Izaya: at first I was like "wtf I've never heard of xeroxing before" but then my brain went "hold on... kserować (xerować) is literally a word here" (which means photocopying)
L268[16:33:05] <Kristo​pher38> I've never looked at this word like that, I feel like I've been lied to my entire life
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L270[16:40:21] <ThePi​Guy24> >Nadja: https://applications.emro.who.int/docs/EMRPUB_leaflet_2019_mnh_215_en.pdf?ua=…
L271[16:40:21] <ThePi​Guy24> alright, i accept that you are right about how early on it can be diagnosed, but im not talking out my ass, im going off my experience, and my experience is that the majority of autistic people that i know of or have interacted with were diagnosed between 5 and 10, maybe its just due to the kinda fucked nature of the NHS and the long waiting lists, but i highly doubt it is any better in the US (which appears to be where DC6 is)
L272[16:43:20] <Na​dja> >ThePiGuy24: alright, i accept that you are right about how early on it can be diagno…
L273[16:43:20] <Na​dja> Also do keep in mind that not ever person with ASD shows heavy enough symptoms at 2 years old to be sent to diagnosis. AFAIK it's very much a case of only a small percentage of ASD showing these kinds of early development disorder on that scale. So people being diagnosed later is not just a failing of the medical system it's also a case of symptoms only manifesting later in that persons development. Have you corrected for that? :)
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L275[18:17:05] <Ocawes​ome101> hey @payonel been nearly a year, figured i'd bump https://github.com/payonel/ocvm/pull/51
L276[18:19:32] <Ocawes​ome101> was reminded this existed when i fired up my desktop's instance of OCVM and it didn't have functional palette colors :p
L277[18:51:21] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L278[18:51:21] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forec​aster, you were not able to beat Va​ur's record of 11 hours, 27 minutes and 36 seconds this time. 3 hours, 13 minutes and 8 seconds were wasted! Missed by 8 hours, 14 minutes and 27 seconds!
L279[18:52:33] <Forec​aster> Dangit
L280[19:53:58] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: thoughts? https://gist.github.com/Ocawesome101/a602f5e953433827fec428ac2ad44c6e
L281[21:39:38] <Amanda> %choose laptopnaptime?
L282[21:39:38] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Why would you do that when you could do something else instead?
L283[21:40:07] <Amanda> Hrm. Good point. Counter point, I can do something not-laptop related, and still laptopnaptime. Checkmate Atheists
L284[21:40:24] * Amanda curls up around Elfi, reads some more stories to her
L285[22:14:45] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Nadja: Also do keep in mind that not every person with ASD shows heavy enough symptoms at …
L286[22:14:45] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Whoa whoa what's this argument about
L287[22:17:27] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Sorry if I've caused the argument by saying I was diagnosed with autism 😔
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L289[22:32:48] <Na​dja> >DiamondCreeper_6: Sorry if I've caused the argument by saying I was diagnosed with autism …
L290[22:32:48] <Na​dja> You didn't. Not directly anyway.
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L293[22:41:52] <Amanda> %choose 🍄 or 🎮
L294[22:41:52] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Haven't you always gone with "🎮"? Hm, maybe not.
L295[22:42:18] <Amanda> Time to continue my infiltration of the foxen lands
L296[23:00:18] <DiamondC​reeper_6> >Nadja: You didn't. Not directly anyway.
L297[23:00:18] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Are you a psychiatrist
L298[23:00:23] <DiamondC​reeper_6> ?
L299[23:01:14] <DiamondC​reeper_6> %choose Amanda or Nadja
L300[23:01:14] <MichiBot> DiamondC​reeper_6: "Amanda" is for cool kids!
L301[23:01:20] <DiamondC​reeper_6> Wdym
L302[23:08:46] <Na​dja> >DiamondCreeper_6: Are you a psychiatrist
L303[23:08:46] <Na​dja> No, far from it ^^
L304[23:45:55] <ThePi​Guy24> >Ocawesome101: hey <@159080152154767361> been nearly a year, figured i'd bump https://github
L305[23:45:55] <ThePi​Guy24> oh nice this fixes something that has bothered me for a while but i have been too lazy to report (i think ;p)
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