L1[00:11:36] <Amanda> %splash Vaur with mutable pink potion

L2[00:11:36] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable pink potion (New!) that splashes onto Vaur. Vaur turns into an aluminium crocodile girl until they use "Wat Rather" in a sentence.

L4[00:34:17] <Z0id​berg> Well Massachusettes is apparently having their apocalypse

L5[00:34:27] <Z0id​berg> https://tinyurl.com/2edf883h

L6[00:37:03] <Amanda> I'm sure it's fine, Just another gender reveal party going as sexpected

L7[00:46:46] <Amanda> See, me and Elfi and the other faries did some poking, now any gender reveal explosion will cause massive devistation, hopefully you mortals figure it out before you burn the planet

L8[00:47:48] <Amanda> "it" being that it's a very antiquated and karen-esq move

L9[01:03:49] <Z0id​berg> I don't know.I don't understand why gender has to matter so much

L10[01:04:56] <Z0id​berg> The way Em describes it is "my inner dialog doesn't have a gender, so why should I care?"

L11[01:06:27] <Amanda> I mostly dislike them because it's conflating gender and sex. Just because the fetus has a penis doesn't mean they're necessarily a boy, and visa-versa for a vagina and a girl

L12[01:07:41] <Z0id​berg> That's exactly how I feel

L13[01:08:54] <Amanda> %choosr be responsible or stay up anxious and in space, waiting for tomorrow

L14[01:09:12] <Amanda> %choose be responsible or stay up anxious and in space, waiting for tomorrow

L15[01:09:12] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Oh no, not "be responsible" again! I'll have "stay up anxious and in space, waiting for tomorrow" instead.

L16[01:12:24] <Z0id​berg> It bothers me that we have to make it such a big thing at all. Em and I are very supportive of anyone who feels they need to identify as anything, but I do feel that we shouldn't have to be in the position where people feel they have to fight so hard for it. It's a little upsetting. I also have reminded some that were more nervous about going through hormone treatments that, it's not a requirement to go through those changes to feel like anyone

L17[01:12:24] <Z0id​berg> you want to be either.

L18[01:13:34] <Z0id​berg> Just be the person you want to be and that's all I've ever asked

L19[01:23:24] <Z0id​berg> We actually have some transgender people in our bridesmaids party. They are mutual friends of ours for over a decade.

L22[02:31:41] <Amanda> %tell Inari look, you can't just go giving a YouTuber a dedicated parking space in every parking lot in the town, just because they're visiting for a convention. Also you should probably break up the toddler street gang already

L23[02:31:41] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.

L24[02:32:02] <Amanda> Night girls

L25[03:06:40] <Mic​hiyo> Are there no bundled redstone mods for forge 1.18.2

L26[03:06:43] <Mic​hiyo> ?*

L29[06:02:02] <Va​ur> %tonkout

L30[06:02:02] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 7 hours, 57 minutes and 50 seconds (By 1 minute and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L31[06:02:03] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 3.31122425. Position #1

L35[10:41:04] <ThePi​Guy24> >Amanda: I'm sure it's fine, Just another gender reveal party going as sexpected

L36[10:41:04] <ThePi​Guy24> "Its a Hellspawn!"

L37[11:26:25] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L38[11:26:25] <MichiBot> Woah! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 24 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L39[11:26:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 24 minutes and 22 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00541 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.194116 more points to pass Va​ur!

L40[12:46:45] <Amanda> %choose spaace or factory

L41[12:46:45] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I sense some "factory" in your future!

L42[12:56:11] <Amanda> %choose comfort or utility

L43[12:56:11] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Haven't you always gone with "utility"? Hm, maybe not.

L44[12:59:34] <Amanda> Hrm. Space first, factory later

L45[13:35:37] <Z0id​berg> >Michiyo: Are there no bundled redstone mods for forge 1.18.2

L46[13:35:37] <Z0id​berg> I was so upset that 1.18 became such a mess.

L47[13:36:10] <Z0id​berg> Why would Microsoft make breaking changes on a minor revision number

L48[13:36:29] <Z0id​berg> (between 18.1 and 18.2)

L49[13:57:37] <Amanda> because they're microsoft, they only care about compatability for their fortune 500-company clients who pay to still run windows XP

L50[14:03:28] <Z0id​berg> You know back when I was going to school we had some retired professor call in to complain that their Internet stopped working right after we shut off our dialup services back in 2014 or so.

L51[14:03:37] <Z0id​berg> The guy was running Windows 3.1 at home

L52[14:42:27] <Forec​aster> Hooray, my package arrived

L53[14:42:37] <Forec​aster> but boo, now I don't have anything to be excited about...

L54[14:53:25] <Amanda> Hrm, not sure if NMS was updated in the couple weeks I didn't play, or it's something with the steam deck, but the colony I oversee nolonger pops in suddenly, it's visible from just about when I enter the atmo

L55[14:53:52] <Forec​aster> I haven't played in a while

L56[14:54:24] <Forec​aster> I know I used to quit from the overseer building, and when loading back in the building wouldn't load until I went outside of it

L57[14:54:40] <Forec​aster> dunno if that still happens

L58[14:55:13] <Forec​aster> there was an update this week with no news post

L67[16:26:54] <Grahm​indol> hello world

L70[16:33:20] <Amanda> %choose buy 6 wiring looms to increase price, or melt it down now

L71[16:33:20] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I had a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "buy 6 wiring looms to increase price"

L72[16:33:41] <Grahm​indol> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/agocerevey

L73[16:34:09] <Grahm​indol> Someone would have any idea

L74[16:34:21] <Redston​eParkour> well its done via wireless network packets right?

L75[16:34:44] <Grahm​indol> yes

L76[16:36:25] <Redston​eParkour> i think something like where the functions to create stuff return a number and you pass that number to functions to modify the thing it represents, like `filesystem` component file handles

L77[16:38:08] <Grahm​indol> I didn't understand

L78[16:39:28] <Grahm​indol> I made a java class that calls the function of the same name from the second string of the packet

L79[16:39:57] <Grahm​indol> if the first is "openarmor"

L80[16:40:03] <Mic​hiyo> >Z0idberg: Why would Microsoft make breaking changes on a minor revision number

L81[16:40:03] <Mic​hiyo> Not sure what changes, I moved directly from 1.16.5 to 1.18.2 lol

L82[16:40:23] <Redston​eParkour> ok so a function like `createRect` would return an int which can then be passed to some other function like `modifyRect` to modify the same rectangle

L83[16:43:38] <Grahm​indol> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/azuxuqojic

L84[16:45:59] <Grahm​indol> but it might actually work as you say

L85[16:46:06] <Forec​aster> so if you want to update the text you'd need two calls

L86[16:46:24] <Forec​aster> one to remove it, then one to re-add it, because the string itself is the identifier?

L87[16:46:33] <Redston​eParkour> well the first command would then broadcast a message, containing the return value

L88[16:46:38] <Redston​eParkour> which would *then* be the identifier

L89[16:46:49] <Grahm​indol> >Forecaster: one to remove it, then one to re-add it, because the string itself is the ide…

L90[16:46:49] <Grahm​indol> yes

L91[16:47:36] <Grahm​indol> >RedstoneParkour: which would *then* be the identifier

L92[16:47:36] <Grahm​indol> yes it's not done like that but I could

L93[16:47:42] <Forec​aster> RPs' method would be preferable

L94[16:48:40] <Grahm​indol> ?

L95[16:50:05] <Grahm​indol> I must admit that it took me a while to achieve this result.

L96[16:50:05] <Grahm​indol> and I don't think I can do better for the control

L97[16:50:30] <Forec​aster> I think you can

L98[16:50:44] <Forec​aster> but if you don't want to that's okay too

L99[16:52:00] <Grahm​indol> at the beginning this is what i wanted but there is too much problem due to the fact that the armor is a variable of the player and nothing more

L100[16:53:08] <Grahm​indol> moreover there is little documentation

L101[16:54:40] <Grahm​indol> and i don't know of any mod doing something similar ormit OpenGlase which uses a block to control the goggles

L102[16:55:08] <Grahm​indol> (I tried that)

L103[16:55:45] <Grahm​indol> but this is not the question

L104[16:56:20] <Forec​aster> %tonkout

L105[16:56:20] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 24 minutes and 22 seconds (By 5 minutes and 32 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L106[16:56:21] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 3.13010825, Position #2 Need 0.181116 more points to pass Va​ur!

L107[16:56:23] <Grahm​indol> I would like ideas of method for the armor

L108[16:57:21] <Redston​eParkour> so is the question about what the armor should be able to do or how you control those functions?

L109[16:57:40] <Forec​aster> they want suggestions for the former

L110[16:57:56] <Grahm​indol> what armor should be able to do

L111[16:58:23] <Grahm​indol> I have no more idea

L112[17:02:47] <Redston​eParkour> well there *is* a mod that has kind of already done this, its called Plethora and uses computercraft but you can probably use some of the ideas there

L113[17:07:16] <Z0id​berg> >Michiyo: Not sure what changes, I moved directly from 1.16.5 to 1.18.2 lol

L114[17:07:17] <Z0id​berg> So apparently Microsoft changed the way nbt is stored or something like that, I forget exactly what between 18.1 and 18.2. at this point half the good mods were on 18.1 and the other half on 18.2, so you couldn't have most of what you really wanted fo mainstream Nova.

L115[17:07:37] <Z0id​berg> I hope most of them have moved on to 18.2 now

L116[17:08:07] <Z0id​berg> And you couldn't mix them between the two versions

L117[17:08:51] <Redston​eParkour> why did they have to do that?

L118[17:23:15] <Mic​hiyo> >Z0idberg: I hope most of them have moved on to 18.2 now

L119[17:23:15] <Mic​hiyo> I find most mods are .2, however the Forge/Fabric split is annoying AF...

L120[17:23:24] <Mic​hiyo> I've found redstone wire mods for Fabric, but nothing for Forge :/

L121[17:23:38] <Mic​hiyo> *LOTS* of stuff are Fabric only with no forge versions/ports..

L122[17:26:54] <Redston​eParkour> well it appears that people believe Fabric is better than Forge and thus make mods for it instead of Forge, meaning more users use Fabric, meaning more mod devs dev for Fabric

L123[17:45:29] <Forec​aster> who wants to bet in another few decades Fabric will be bloated and someone will invent a fourth platform to replace it

L124[17:49:54] <Redston​eParkour> i'm not even sure Minecraft can survive that long

L125[17:51:54] <Forec​aster> I don't have any statistics of minecraft players at all so I don't know

L126[17:59:24] <Forec​aster> %sip

L127[17:59:25] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy pink potion (New!). Gravity reverses for Forecaster for 2 hours.

L128[17:59:34] <Forec​aster> oh dear

L129[18:00:06] <Forec​aster> at least it wasn't later or I'd be sleeping on the ceiling

L131[18:45:11] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or games

L132[18:45:11] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The sands of time whisper to me... they're saying "games".

L133[18:45:34] <Amanda> Hrm.

L134[18:45:41] <Amanda> Nah, I'mma halucinate

L136[18:57:58] <Z0id​berg> I certainly believe fabric is better, having played a little with it. However, what pisses me off is that fabric split into two separate projects due to an unfortunate collision of transgender views or something like that. It certainly didn't help the fabric project any. I'm not saying that people need to support problems like that, I am just a bit sad that had to happen.

L137[18:59:47] <Forec​aster> oh, I'll have to change my previous statement then

L138[18:59:53] <Forec​aster> "fourth" should be "fifth"

L139[19:04:03] <Z0id​berg> I just wish that we weren't in a position where people always feel the need to defend themselves. It shouldn't be a daily struggle for so many people to be themselves.

L140[19:08:59] <Z0id​berg> There are legitimately some things that really piss me off though, like when certain corporations actively money pool into funds and programs that specifically fight against LGBTQ rights and abortion, etc. It becomes a matter of "why do you fight so hard to control the lives of other people? What have these people actually ever done to you that makes it okay? other

L141[19:10:55] <Z0id​berg> So when I hear about these great projects like fabric splitting apart because the coordinators have conflicting views, it upsets me a little, because I feel like it is pulling people apart.

L142[19:12:34] <Forec​aster> I just think it'd going to take education and time to root these problems out, a lot of time

L143[19:13:09] <Forec​aster> education for those willing to update their views, and time for those who wont change to die out

L144[19:13:57] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, sadly life expectancy is only going up.

L145[19:14:24] <Forec​aster> well, not for the anti-vaxers

L146[19:14:31] <Forec​aster> probably

L147[19:16:16] <Mic​hiyo> While a Venn Diagram of anti-vaxxers and anti-lgbt folks would likely look a lot like a circle, it's not going to be perfect.

L149[19:18:39] <Forec​aster> I'll just hope the remaining sliver gets taken off-planet by UFOs

L150[19:18:51] <Forec​aster> preferably left on some asteroid somewhere

L151[19:22:42] <Z0id​berg> I'm not exactly the kind of person to expect a perfect world, though it's really annoying that people will legitimately believe in things that they acquire via heresay or anything other than their own ... Critical thinking skills? Do people not have those? I find it hard to believe that people actually legitimately came up with half the shit they say and do themselves

L152[19:24:18] <stephan48> the problem happens when those conflicting world views get taken from the discussion platform into the leadership of "neutral" projects". neutral being something which in a perfect world would be a-political/not-at-all depending on views of $foo issues

L153[19:24:48] <Forec​aster> Some ideas just get so deeply rooted that they don't want to think critically about them

L154[19:26:08] <Z0id​berg> Do you remember when Trump got elected that people would say they voted for him because they thought he was a good business man. But what standards? Because he had a giant building and shit tons of money? Notice how most people never actually asked why

L155[19:26:24] <Z0id​berg> They just gave into the hive mind

L156[19:26:54] <Forec​aster> What do you mean? Obviously anyone who's rich must be because they earned it right

L157[19:27:02] <Z0id​berg> Hahaha

L158[19:27:15] <Forec​aster> because that means anyone can put the work in and become rich

L159[19:27:41] <stephan48> Trump is a truly fascinating conundrum, it will be very interesting how the situation evolves in the next 10 years.

L160[19:28:24] <Forec​aster> Depending on how the secret document case plays out he might not be up for another term

L161[19:29:04] <stephan48> well. the question is... does that matter?

L162[19:29:13] <Z0id​berg> I don't think so

L163[19:30:25] <stephan48> just because america is the "source of world wide democrazy"(someone willing to cleanup the irony trails?) does not mean it can't drift into the same kind of shit which a certain austrian started in europe some almost 100 years ago. the next years will be telling... not that europe is on a better course.. or the world :(

L164[19:30:28] <Z0id​berg> And the reason why is that, we as the people whether voluntarily or involuntarily rest our laurels In the footsteps of our leaders

L165[19:31:03] <Z0id​berg> Similarly our sovereign body follows the trends of our society, even if very poorly

L166[19:32:37] <stephan48> if they block him from having another term, that will be the ultimate vindiction for many that its a witch hunt and that he was right all along

L167[19:32:41] <Z0id​berg> So removing trump can delay catastrophe perhaps, but it delays it. If the people are truly following a passion that seeks corruption or change whether corruptive or not, the Sovereign body will be there with us to follow through

L168[19:33:52] <stephan48> eh enough of the dark world views :P this is not a good place for politics i would say

L169[19:34:13] <Z0id​berg> I am also an optimist and no conspirist, but my minor was political theory and there are some things that I recall that are a little disturbing

L170[19:34:26] <Z0id​berg> Sure

L171[19:35:42] <Z0id​berg> I was going to quote Montesque's two directions a democracy can go in the event of failure, which of you are interested I guess you can look them up. In both cases, the result is not good.

L172[19:39:22] <Forec​aster> %sip

L173[19:39:22] <MichiBot> You drink a simulated quicksilver potion (New!). Forecaster's shoes are now slightly too large until they see a bird.

L174[19:41:06] <Z0id​berg> It's an interesting read Stephan so if you're interested check out section 4.1 paragraph 3 of https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/montesquieu/#4.1

L175[19:41:11] <Z0id​berg> I'll leave it at that

L176[19:51:19] <tS​haw> I'm not reading that

L177[19:52:10] <Forec​aster> unless you're stephan no one was asking you to

L178[19:59:27] <CompanionCube> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyt3Op2dTc0

L180[20:22:40] <My​ros> hi leo

L181[20:23:11] <Forec​aster> Who's leo

L182[20:23:18] <myk> i am leo

L183[20:23:47] <My​ros> showing him irc

L185[20:32:20] <stephan48> @Z0idberg thanks will put it on the list

L187[22:10:19] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L188[22:10:19] <MichiBot> Wild! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 13 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L189[22:10:20] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 13 minutes and 59 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00523)

L190[22:58:32] <Amanda> %splash @forecaster with mutable blue potion

L191[22:58:32] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable blue potion (New!) that splashes onto @forecaster. @forecaster turns into a horse girl until they see a unicorn.

L192[22:58:50] <Amanda> ... Is that a horse girl or a Horse Girl?

L193[22:59:14] <Amanda> Is Forecaster going to the stable to pet and ride the horsies, or because she's been kitnapped

L194[22:59:23] <Amanda> Regardless

L196[22:59:33] <Amanda> blocks*