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L5[04:46:09] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L6[04:46:09] <MichiBot> Willikers! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 58 minutes and 7 seconds (By 3 hours, 10 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L7[04:46:10] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.008 tonk points! plus 0.014 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.39233625, Position #2 Need 0.54611 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L10[07:43:59] <CompanionCube> %ping
L11[07:44:00] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Compan​ionCube 0.62s
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L13[07:45:44] <HetSappigeEendje> aaaAAA
L14[07:46:03] <HetSappigeEendje> i am literally gonna kill myself if i don't find a decent GUI API within 30 minutes
L15[07:46:06] <HetSappigeEendje> anyone got ideas?
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L17[07:48:23] <CompanionCube> inb4 MineOS.
L18[07:49:33] <Izaya> HetSappigeEendje: ANSI escape codes :^)
L19[07:49:50] <Izaya> KittenOS NEO may be of interest, less sarcastically
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L21[07:50:59] <HetSappigeEendje> Izaya: \[[nothankyou
L22[07:51:13] <HetSappigeEendje> i don't like ansi escapes, not really gui tbh
L23[07:51:27] <HetSappigeEendje> kittenOS sounds interesting
L24[07:52:13] <HetSappigeEendje> and i've already checked out MineOS, the thing is that i use OCEmu as my dev pc and MineOS doesn't support ocemu
L25[07:52:25] <Izaya> it also barely supports real OC so :D
L26[07:53:28] <HetSappigeEendje> yeah
L27[07:53:28] <Izaya> you can do pretty good stuff with escape codes but anything complicated really wants something more advanced on top. https://shadowkat.net/tmp/8a56.jpg
L28[07:53:46] <Izaya> I should work on a stacking terminal multiplexer for PsychOS some time
L29[07:55:54] <HetSappigeEendje> might aswell just wait for someone to make a GUI library for OC2
L30[07:56:19] <HetSappigeEendje> cuz oc2 has pixel screens instead of whatever this is
L31[07:56:48] <Izaya> should be able to use any linux library for framebuffer GUIs in that case
L32[07:58:15] <HetSappigeEendje> if it runs on risc V
L33[07:58:30] <Izaya> well-written software is usually portable
L34[07:58:34] <HetSappigeEendje> it'll probably run on whatever distro oc2 has default
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L37[07:59:01] <Izaya> afraid I can't help with setting up a development environment but there's plenty of people around that could
L38[08:02:55] <HetSappigeEendje> somah ok
L39[08:02:57] <HetSappigeEendje> ah ok
L40[08:03:13] <HetSappigeEendje> someone on the oc2 discussion board said x11 will probably run on it
L41[08:03:38] <HetSappigeEendje> but there's no mouse input system in oc2 i think
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L43[08:07:48] <HetSappigeEendje> h
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L45[08:11:26] <CompanionCube> i know they're gone but why full x11
L46[08:11:30] <CompanionCube> fbdev exists
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L49[08:30:56] <Izaya> X11 and networking, for X11 forwarding
L50[08:30:59] <Izaya> run firefox on it >:D
L51[08:39:33] <CompanionCube> isn't kt gonna run like shit over x forwarding
L52[08:39:52] <CompanionCube> that and the emulation overhead
L53[08:40:05] <CompanionCube> (never mind RAM usage, lol)
L54[08:43:03] <Izaya> well, display firefox
L55[08:43:20] <Izaya> on a slower machine X11 forwarding machine from a faster machine is preferable for firefox
L56[08:44:03] <CompanionCube> for lulz forward a windows vm display
L57[08:44:21] <Izaya> a VNC viewer would probably be practical...
L58[08:44:33] <CompanionCube> what's the resolution?
L59[08:44:43] <Izaya> no idea I've never used OC2
L60[08:53:32] <Ar​iri> Izaya: a
L61[08:53:35] <Ar​iri> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/816468460505923584/997560374322790510/firefox_2022-07-15_10-48-16.gif
L62[08:54:13] <Ar​iri> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/816468460505923584/997562978914291864/unknown.png
L63[08:54:34] <Izaya> this is the content I seek
L64[08:56:31] <Ar​iri> yea sorry i don't send stuff much anymore i dropped most of my good content consumption habits
L65[08:56:43] <Ar​iri> new phone and such
L66[08:56:50] <Ar​iri> lost a lot
L67[08:56:51] <Izaya> probably good for your health
L68[08:57:10] <Ar​iri> debatable, yuri gives me life
L69[08:58:07] <Izaya> have a few then https://shadowkat.net/tmp/e254.html
L70[09:01:24] <Ar​iri> much appreciated friend
L71[09:04:37] <Ar​iri> also, what exactly was that you sent
L72[09:04:37] <Ar​iri> i'm on mobile so can't really see
L73[09:05:09] <Ar​iri> was it like image links just embedded into an html or is this a new part of nextcloud or something
L74[09:16:01] <Izaya> yeah I have a script for putting up temporary "album" pages on my temporary storage bit of my site
L75[10:26:45] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L76[10:26:45] <MichiBot> Geez! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 40 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L77[10:26:46] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 5 hours, 40 minutes and 36 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00568)
L78[10:56:52] <Va​ur> %sip
L79[10:56:52] <MichiBot> You drink a runny aluminium potion (New!). Vaur is suddenly wearing gloves they don't remember putting on.
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L81[11:52:35] <Forec​aster> https://youtu.be/SFWNADFHOis
L82[11:52:56] <Forec​aster> `Minecraft Says No To NFTs | 5 Minute Gaming News`
L83[12:02:08] <B​ob> based and red-pilled
L84[13:45:57] <Z0id​berg> I find that interesting. Minecraft ban nft yet... I don't think they know that people have the freedom to make nfts out of anything?
L85[13:46:16] <Z0id​berg> Like fan fiction
L86[13:50:22] <Z0id​berg> So I guess they just have to make sure there's no fully copyrighted material in it
L87[13:51:44] <Z0id​berg> Oh oh I see it's like the Pay to play thing. It can't be part of the game itself
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L89[16:55:04] <Va​ur> %tonk
L90[16:55:04] <MichiBot> By my throth! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 5 hours, 40 minutes and 36 seconds (By 47 minutes and 42 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L91[16:55:05] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 6 hours, 28 minutes and 18 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0048 (0.0008 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L92[17:00:45] <Forec​aster> dangit, right when I'm distracted by NMS
L93[17:15:52] <Ocawes​ome101> https://youtu.be/4hX1Nz996MY
L94[17:32:14] <Va​ur> %sip
L95[17:32:14] <MichiBot> You drink a thick dilithium potion (New!). The potion was inside Vaur all along.
L96[17:32:29] <Va​ur> >Forecaster: dangit, right when I'm distracted by NMS
L97[17:32:29] <Va​ur> anything good happening there ? haven't been on it in a while
L98[17:32:59] <Forec​aster> They just released an update overhauling freighters
L99[17:33:14] <Forec​aster> I have to start from the beginning though so I haven't gotten to the new content yet
L100[17:37:32] <Va​ur> I've seen some of the patch note, used the update as a benchmark to my newly found fiber 😄
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L102[17:39:50] <Forec​aster> still got the very same annoyances it's always had though
L103[17:40:09] <Forec​aster> like having to hold down the interact button for practically every interaction for no reason
L104[17:40:40] <Forec​aster> and the dumb un-skippable "initialization sequence" in the beginning
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L108[19:35:32] <Va​ur> %sip
L109[19:35:32] <MichiBot> You drink a shining aegisalt potion (New!). A warp zone opens up next to Vaur. (Use %warp to jump in)
L110[19:35:37] <Va​ur> %warp
L111[19:35:37] <MichiBot> You end up in a dimension populated by wolf boys.
L112[19:37:41] <Forec​aster> Don't start a howl, whatever you do
L113[19:38:54] <Va​ur> \*hooooooowww*
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L118[20:56:51] <Amanda> TIL: Each SSH public key tried counts as a different login attempt
L119[20:58:05] <Forec​aster> that makes sense
L120[20:58:33] <Va​ur> until you have a ton of ssh key siting in your .ssh I guess 😄
L121[20:59:06] <Va​ur> you'll probably want to have a config to match ssh keys to whatever you are trying to connect (I believe that a thing you can do right ?)
L122[20:59:33] <Amanda> my password manager has an SSH Agent thingy now, I decided "Well, since I'm happy enough with this flow, might as well do the same thing I do for regular passwords, and make a bunch of different ones for each site" -- suddenly I can't log into anything over ssh anywhere
L123[21:00:36] <Va​ur> well, ssh keys don't get compromised like password do so ... you kinda don't need that ?
L124[21:00:50] <Amanda> thought it'd be fun, is all. :P
L125[21:01:01] <Elfi> That does seem kind of weird though, in case you have keys issued from different sourcds
L126[21:01:07] <Va​ur> if your private key is compromised you either uploaded it on github or ... your desktop is compromised
L127[21:01:08] <Elfi> Sources, even
L128[21:01:33] <Va​ur> in that later case, all bets are off
L129[21:02:51] <Elfi> I feel like ssh auth should offer a quick key name check, with reasonable limits in place to prevent brute forcing
L130[21:03:26] <Va​ur> expectation is that you would config your ssh config I'm guessing
L131[21:03:43] <Forec​aster> but that's work!
L132[21:04:19] <Va​ur> how much attempt before you got booted off ?
L133[21:05:57] <Amanda> Six keys were tried before my homelab's sshd said enough
L134[21:06:00] <Forec​aster> %sip
L135[21:06:00] <MichiBot> You drink a tiny aegisalt potion (New!). Forecaster gains the ability to talk to bricks until they find a lamp.
L136[21:06:09] <Amanda> not sure about others, didn't try once I noticed each key was an indivitual password attempt
L137[21:07:02] <Va​ur> how many keys did you make ? 🤣
L138[21:07:08] <Amanda> lik e9
L139[21:09:51] <Forec​aster> E9 keys?! That's too many keys!
L140[21:43:25] <Ar​iri> yea iirc 6 is default max attempts
L141[21:50:50] <stephan48> yea i stumbled about exactly that problem too with the multiple ssh keys
L142[21:50:56] <stephan48> took me a while to figure it out
L143[22:13:29] <Forec​aster> Hrm, apparently some movies on tvdb have no release year specified
L144[22:13:46] <Forec​aster> I just found out my re-naming script cannot find those movies
L145[22:14:13] <Forec​aster> I need to allow it to search without a year as well it seems
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L147[22:24:58] <Amanda> stephan48: "ssh -vvvvv" made it absurdly clear what was happening
L148[22:25:36] <Amanda> Espically since earlier in the config it lists ssh keys it's discovered and plans to try
L149[22:25:39] <Amanda> er, output
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L151[23:30:37] <Amanda> %choose spaaaace or spaaaace 2
L152[23:30:38] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Once you get a taste of "spaaaace 2" you can't stop.
L153[23:30:46] <Amanda> nms it is
L154[23:31:04] <dequbed> Izaya: "well-written software is usually portable" have I introduced you to my good friend C and that nothing is ever actually portable and we're just furiously painting over the cracks while our whole foundation is one push away from crumbling into nothingness? :P
L155[23:32:45] <Amanda> PRocessing Vulkan Shaders....
L156[23:40:09] <Amanda> Last played in 2019 apparently
L157[23:40:22] <dequbed> Needs more spaaaace 3 then
L158[23:48:37] <Amanda> I have no idea what "llvmpipe" is, but telling NMS to use the intel GPU made it run much faster that whatever it was
L159[23:49:24] <Amanda> oh.
L160[23:49:27] <Amanda> It's MESA
L161[23:49:34] <Amanda> why the fuck was that the default
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L164[23:57:28] <gruetzkopf> mesa is also involved with running your intel gpu
L165[23:57:39] <gruetzkopf> llvmpipe is the software rasteriser
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L167[23:58:43] <Amanda> gruetzkopf: yeah, I meant the software part when I said that. I don't understand why it'd default to software
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