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L1[00:17:44] <MR_SP​ᐰGETTY> On i fixed the infinite loop but now for some reason 1 of the items of the qrray dies not have its data only an empty array for its data when it gets to the loop but it does have its data earlier in the script
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L5[00:51:39] <MR_SP​ᐰGETTY> Hawk do you see any reason why the entry of the rings that teh computer is at is loosing the data when it gets accesed in the BFS function?
L6[00:54:41] <Amanda> %give MichiBot a slip of paper with 11037 printed on it
L7[00:54:42] * MichiBot accepts the slip of paper with 11037 printed on it and adds it to her inventory
L8[01:00:09] <MR_SP​ᐰGETTY> gotta love how that appeared on discord on the opposite order
L9[01:17:23] <Amanda> MichiBot is just that good, responding to messages before they're even sent
L10[01:36:31] <Izaya> people have pinephones here, did up a quick comparison of the postprocessing from GTK3 megapixels, GTK4 megapixels, and postprocessd which will be in megapixels eventually https://shadowkat.net/tmp/f651.html
L11[01:38:00] <ThePi​Guy24> if it werent for the bike, id say these pictures were from the 70s ;p
L12[01:38:25] <Izaya> an acceptable outcome
L13[01:46:00] <CompanionCube> it's nicely arranged in ascending quality order
L14[01:50:28] <Izaya> indeed
L15[01:54:52] <Izaya> in theory properly used postprocessd should have even better results - does a like, 5-image burst then combines them to reduce noise, but I'm using the GTK3 version of megapixels and it doesn't do burst mode
L16[01:56:28] * Amanda rewrites Izaya to be gobject-dbus based
L17[01:56:58] * Amanda curls up around Elfi, meows stories at her
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L22[02:30:19] <MR_SP​ᐰGETTY> well Hawk i fixed the for loop but now the data for the origin set of rings(the set that the BFS function is being run at) is being replaced by a empty array
L23[02:55:12] <Hawk777> That’s OwnAddress?
L24[02:56:21] <Hawk777> Or is it KnownRings[OwnAddress]?
L25[03:12:56] <MR_SP​ᐰGETTY> The later
L26[03:13:31] <MR_SP​ᐰGETTY> KnownRings[OwnAddress]
L27[03:25:55] <Lil'​Rock> I hope to see OC in 1.18.2. Is there any way I can help?
L28[03:30:41] <Mic​hiyo> Sure! You can join the other metric ton of people who have started ports, and quickly discovered why OC2 is a brand new mod.
L29[03:30:47] <Mic​hiyo> and we can add your name to the list.
L30[03:32:14] <Izaya> been thinkign about an ocvm server again
L31[03:33:05] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: "ocvm server"?
L32[03:33:42] <Izaya> cloud hosting for ocvm with networking and stuff
L33[03:36:37] <Ocawes​ome101> that'd be neat
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L36[03:47:05] <Wat​tana> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/wojabomahe
L37[03:47:06] <Wat​tana> sad
L38[04:05:13] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L39[04:05:14] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 13 minutes and 21 seconds (By 2 hours, 10 minutes and 9 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L40[04:05:15] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.64978625, Position #1
L41[04:08:00] <Hawk777> MR_SP​ᐰGETTY: hm, not sure why that would happen; I guess you need to add a bunch more printing to narrow down where exactly it is getting destroyed.
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L44[04:31:53] <MR_SP​ᐰGETTY> Yeah Hawk i guys i do
L45[04:58:24] <Wat​tana> >Wattana: nope but i sus it's the c stack
L46[04:58:24] <Wat​tana> @Kristopher38 remember this suspicion of mine?
L47[04:58:35] <Wat​tana> turns out the c stack is not at fault
L48[04:59:39] <Wat​tana> maybe the cpu emulation have problems?
L49[05:13:23] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/4049.jpg
L50[05:17:51] <Wat​tana> >Izaya: https://shadowkat.net/tmp/4049.jpg
L51[05:17:51] <Wat​tana> why did my brain think its an rpi
L52[05:18:11] <Izaya> it's an IdeaPad S10e, so an RPi would be faster
L53[05:18:24] <Wat​tana> damn how old is that thing
L54[05:18:40] <Izaya> it's an education-oriented netbook from 2008
L55[05:23:45] <Izaya> why am I using such an extremely potato device, you may be wondering?
L56[05:24:22] <Izaya> because it's tiny and fits in my bag nicely, and I can carry an extra battery and it's still smaller than my X220
L57[05:24:31] <Izaya> (plus I have like 8 of them and if one of them gets destroyed it's nbd)
L58[05:30:20] <Wat​tana> why was 0x55 0xAA choosen as boot sector signature 🤔
L59[05:32:23] <Izaya> probably a binary pattern
L60[05:51:13] <Kristo​pher38> @Wattana you know what came to my mind? can you check if those corruptions happen at page boundaries or not?
L61[05:51:52] <Wat​tana> how do i check? write a monitor?
L62[05:51:58] <Wat​tana> wait
L63[05:52:05] <Wat​tana> i think i can do it in c lemme try
L64[05:54:04] <Wat​tana> by page boundaries do you mean address ending in 0xfff or starting with 0x000?
L65[05:56:49] <Izaya> %tell Ariri https://twitter.com/frq4_h/status/1334522579504095233
L66[05:56:49] <MichiBot> Iz​aya: Ariri will be notified of this message when next seen.
L67[05:57:12] <Izaya> oh it's dead
L68[05:57:52] <Izaya> %tell Ariri http://safebooru.donmai.us/posts/4267928
L69[05:57:52] <MichiBot> Iz​aya: Ariri will be notified of this message when next seen.
L70[06:05:05] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L71[06:05:06] <MichiBot> Zoinks! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 59 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L72[06:05:08] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 59 minutes and 52 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.002 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.05277 more points to pass Va​ur!
L73[06:06:41] <Hawk777> 55 is 0101; AA is 1010. They have the maximum density of transitions between bit values.
L74[06:06:43] <Wat​tana> >Kristopher38: <@373271404155764747> you know what came to my mind? can you check if thos…
L75[06:06:43] <Wat​tana> page boundaries are fine
L76[06:06:48] <Wat​tana> but i think i figured the bug out
L77[06:06:57] <Hawk777> Now why anyone figured that mattered for boot sector signatures, no idea.
L78[06:07:10] <Wat​tana> so Thistle's BIOS load binaries into $0200
L79[06:07:12] <Hawk777> But I’ve also heard of them being used for serial port automatic baud rate detection, where that property is really useful.
L80[06:07:24] <Wat​tana> wait
L81[06:07:27] <Wat​tana> that's not in zeropage
L82[06:08:22] <Wat​tana> nvm then
L83[06:08:40] <Wat​tana> but maybe it's a problem with the BIOS?
L84[06:18:45] <Kristo​pher38> @Wattana pages as in 6502 pages
L85[06:19:17] <Kristo​pher38> Regions of memory starting at 0x00 and ending at 0xff
L86[06:19:24] <Wat​tana> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/musiwufewa
L87[06:19:26] <Wat​tana> works fine
L88[06:19:33] <Kristo​pher38> They have 256 bytes, not 4KBs
L89[06:19:51] <Wat​tana> https://tinyurl.com/2ndldn2v
L90[06:20:15] <Kristo​pher38> Yeah it does but that doesn't necessarily mean they're fine
L91[06:20:43] <Kristo​pher38> There are some hardware bugs on 6502 regarding page boundaries
L92[06:21:09] <Kristo​pher38> Which only happen under certain conditions
L93[06:21:31] <Wat​tana> The JMP one?
L94[06:22:00] <Kristo​pher38> I know the jmp one but there might be more
L95[06:22:51] <Wat​tana> > The NMOS 6502's indexed addressing across page boundaries will do an extra read of invalid address.
L96[06:22:52] <Wat​tana> damn
L97[06:24:01] <Kristo​pher38> Btw are those corruptions present on both thistle and ocmos?
L98[06:24:41] <Wat​tana> lemme check
L99[06:24:49] <Wat​tana> waituh
L100[06:24:57] <Wat​tana> my ocmos project
L101[06:25:17] <Wat​tana> how do i make it have more chance to have data that crosses page boundary?
L102[06:26:04] <Kristo​pher38> Dunno, allocate stuff at odd addresses?
L103[06:26:26] <Kristo​pher38> Odd as in addr%2==1
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L106[06:41:45] <Wat​tana> This should cross boundary if I put some text there, right?
L107[06:41:46] <Wat​tana> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/izusukabuz
L108[06:46:36] <Wat​tana> OH
L109[06:46:37] <Wat​tana> OH
L110[06:46:44] <Wat​tana> It is indeed the page boundary bug
L111[06:47:06] <Wat​tana> I think
L112[06:47:27] <Wat​tana> (Thislte) https://tinyurl.com/2mhxebux
L113[06:47:52] <Wat​tana> It is!
L114[06:48:07] <Wat​tana> If I move the pointer around the corruption moves
L115[06:49:37] <Wat​tana> OCMOS doesn't emulate this bug but Thistle does
L116[07:00:04] <Wat​tana> Huh the bug is only supposed to affect the JMP instruction
L117[07:01:18] <Wat​tana> At least according to Wikipedia
L118[07:08:17] <Wat​tana> Thistle's got a faulty emulator then
L119[07:09:31] <Wat​tana> That or OCMOS doesn't emulate the bug
L120[07:52:33] <Wat​tana> IIRC you can make custom EEPROM as resource pack right?
L121[07:52:48] <Wat​tana> Wait I think having a second OC computer to flash EEPROMs might be faster
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L128[10:12:06] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L129[10:12:07] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 59 minutes and 52 seconds (By 2 hours, 7 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L130[10:12:08] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.60701625, Position #2 Need 0.04277 more points to pass Va​ur!
L131[10:26:15] <Kristo​pher38> >Wattana: It is!
L132[10:26:16] <Kristo​pher38> Fucking knew it
L133[10:26:48] <Kristo​pher38> Now we need to delve into the thistle source and fix it
L134[10:27:09] <Wat​tana> God, Java build setup scared me
L135[11:28:26] <Wat​tana> ok im an idiot
L136[11:28:51] <Wat​tana> so im making a custom ocmos bios bc i don't like cab boot specs
L137[11:29:10] <Wat​tana> and every damn time i put the eeprom for my bios into a flash computer
L138[11:29:20] <Wat​tana> i instinctively reboot it
L139[11:36:13] <lunar_sam> what the fuck
L140[11:36:20] <lunar_sam> when was browsing FTP removed from firefox
L141[11:39:38] <Amanda> A couple versions ago
L142[11:39:51] <Amanda> Remember izaya mentioning it
L143[11:59:51] <Wat​tana> >lunar_sam: when was browsing FTP removed from firefox
L144[11:59:52] <Wat​tana> why do people not use a proper ftp client 💀
L145[12:00:29] <lunar_sam> because why the hell should i open an FTP client when i just want to grab a file???
L146[12:00:58] <lunar_sam> like, yeah, i can use nemo to browse FTP but it's just
L147[12:01:00] <lunar_sam> annoying
L148[12:01:27] <lunar_sam> Amanda: o o f
L149[12:03:35] <Forec​aster> It's been removed from chrome as well
L150[12:03:45] <Forec​aster> Probably from chromium in general
L151[12:03:48] <Amanda> Indeed, they did it first, which is why firefox did it
L152[12:04:21] <lunar_sam> yeah
L153[12:04:23] <lunar_sam> what the fuck
L154[12:04:24] <lunar_sam> why
L155[12:04:27] <lunar_sam> why remove it???
L156[12:05:00] <Amanda> 'cause they can't sell ads on the directory listings generated from the ftp response, so why bother supporting it?
L157[12:05:19] <lunar_sam> i hate browsers
L158[12:05:21] <lunar_sam> i hate browsers
L159[12:05:24] <lunar_sam> i hate browsers
L160[12:05:32] <lunar_sam> its JOB IS TO FETCH ME FILES OVER THE INTERNET
L161[12:05:47] <lunar_sam> it can't even FETCH ME SOME OF THE FILES I WANT
L162[12:06:13] <lunar_sam> i swear to god javascript and material design were grave mistakes
L163[12:07:00] <Forec​aster> Just make them accessible through http
L164[12:10:34] <lunar_sam> i am not the one who runs these sorts of things
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L166[12:18:30] <dequbed> lunar_sam: They removed it because it's a rarely used protocol that has significant issues and incurrs a maintenance overhead while just not being better than HTTPS at getting files. FF never could do FTP justice so they removed their limited support for it since there have always been better clients.
L167[12:25:55] <Z0id​berg> @lunar_sam My friends and I were talking just the other day about "what if we replaced HTTP?"
L168[12:26:12] <Z0id​berg> There is Gemini, but it's not good enough for that use case.
L169[12:27:33] <ThePi​Guy24> http has always felt like a gimped version of ftp that has slowly had more commands glued onto it to get it somewhat close to what ftp can do, only 2 decades late
L170[12:27:57] <Z0id​berg> And yes JavaScript was a huge mustake. It's not the language's fault, it's the stupidity that surrounds people with the idea that JavaScript should have stuck as the defacto language of the web.
L171[12:28:14] <ThePi​Guy24> well, atleast it displaced java ;p
L172[12:28:18] <Z0id​berg> haha.
L173[12:28:24] <Z0id​berg> I use Java at work.
L174[12:28:28] <Z0id​berg> The more I use it the more I hate it.
L175[12:29:03] <Z0id​berg> It's almost like when I was using PHP for work back in the 4.x days and every time I looked at the documentation I'd go, "no... just NO!" except it happens less often with Java.
L176[12:29:25] <Z0id​berg> This was before PHP had proper array handling syntax
L177[12:29:37] <Z0id​berg> so you had to manipulate Arrays using a bunch of hacked in functions
L178[12:58:11] <Va​ur> %tonk
L179[12:58:12] <MichiBot> Kapow! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 46 minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L180[12:58:14] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 46 minutes and 4 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00277 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L190[15:58:43] <sus> hi
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L192[15:59:22] <B​ob> bye
L193[16:03:39] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L194[16:03:40] <MichiBot> By my throth! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 2 hours, 46 minutes and 4 seconds (By 19 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L195[16:03:41] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours, 5 minutes and 27 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00096 (0.00032 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.04458 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L197[16:10:36] <sus> hey
L198[16:10:46] <Forec​aster> %yeshi
L199[16:10:46] <MichiBot> Hi, welcome to the opencomputers IRC channel. If you just connected from minecraft, yes this is a real chat. There are people here, but dont expect people to engage with someone who just says "hi" or similar, were (usually) pretty busy.
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L201[16:11:24] <sus> anyone online
L202[16:11:49] <B​ob> nobody for sure
L203[16:12:04] <Forec​aster> only us ghosts of christmas past
L204[16:12:11] <hey> lmao
L205[16:12:18] <hey> im testing irc
L206[16:12:20] <hey> on oc
L207[16:12:32] <hey> this acc
L208[16:12:35] <hey> is on webchat
L209[16:12:42] <sus> and this one
L210[16:12:46] <sus> is on oc
L211[16:12:57] <hey> .ping
L212[16:13:14] <Forec​aster> that's great, you could have read the message the bot sent
L213[16:13:32] <hey> .ihavenoideahowcommandwork
L214[16:13:35] <hey> lol
L215[16:13:48] <hey> ima head out
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L217[16:14:02] <sus> help
L218[16:14:09] <sus> how do i exit oc program
L219[16:14:11] <sus> for irc
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L221[16:20:07] <Forec​aster> wonderful as always
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L226[17:07:38] <Va​ur> %sip
L227[17:07:39] <MichiBot> You drink a rather naqahdah potion (New!). Vaur feels slightly more agile.
L228[17:32:49] <Amanda> %choose atmospherics or furnace?
L229[17:32:49] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A wizard is never late, and sometimes engages in some "atmospherics".
L230[17:33:02] <Va​ur> %sip
L231[17:33:02] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating apple potion (New!). As Vaur drinks the potion they seem to have become magnetic and the bottom of a barrel flies towards them! They fail to evade it with a 9 vs DC 14 and takes 1d​6 => 4 damage.
L232[18:58:17] <Wat​tana> which creen would you like https://tinyurl.com/2kf2rc3f
L233[18:58:35] <Wat​tana> (forgot to reset overflow bit lol)
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L237[19:39:54] <Wat​tana> im sleep deprived, hungry, and have written 222 lines of asm tonight
L238[19:40:02] <Wat​tana> 😔🔫
L239[19:55:52] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or more space
L240[19:55:52] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "halucinate"!
L241[19:56:59] <Forec​aster> don't fly and hallucinate, unless you're a hallucination
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L243[20:22:27] <Ocawes​ome101> @Wattana perhaps you should sleep and eat, then
L244[20:25:43] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L245[20:25:43] <MichiBot> Yeah! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 5 minutes and 27 seconds (By 1 hour, 16 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L246[20:25:44] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.61797625, Position #2 Need 0.03458 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L248[20:59:44] <Amanda> %choose comfort or utility
L249[20:59:44] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I saw that "utility" is the best choice in a vision
L250[21:41:26] <Kristo​pher38> >Wattana: im sleep deprived, hungry, and have written 222 lines of asm tonight
L251[21:41:26] <Kristo​pher38> I'd consider that a well-spent evening
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