L1[00:24:30] <The P​atmann> mhmm

L3[01:24:41] <Amanda> dequbed: I need an elf priestess and a halfling priestess, I seem to have angered the goddesses and they cast a pox on me. I have no idea wtf I did, but anything I bring into my oc2 machine sigsegv's before it even makes it to main.i think it's even at the same address, but I got too frustrated. This is back in c++-land since I managed to make clangd happy in ncim

L4[01:25:16] <Amanda> Even a simple hello world is sigsegv'ing

L6[01:27:46] <Amanda> %choose early sleeps or continue irradiation

L7[01:27:47] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: After all, why shouldn't you "continue irradiation"?

L8[01:28:00] <Amanda> Hrm...

L10[01:28:23] <Amanda> Night nerds

L13[02:01:05] <Mic​hiyo> *sighs* ~800 watts from the 3 rooms on this circuit and there isn't even that much going.... So come this summer I'm likely going to trip my breaker when I plug the AC in

L15[04:03:02] <ThePi​Guy24> >BrisingrAerowing: XBox services went down.

L16[04:03:02] <ThePi​Guy24> nice, even more services to depend on

L17[04:03:15] <ThePi​Guy24> because the mojang servers werent already bad enough

L18[04:21:52] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L19[04:21:53] <MichiBot> Yikes! Forec​aster! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 57 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L20[04:21:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 57 minutes and 5 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00495 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.09316373 more points to pass Mic​hiyo!

L30[07:58:52] <Forec​aster> @Michiyo the carrier's name is now `R.L.S. Legacy`

L36[09:13:29] <tS​haw> I've worked out the major bugs I now can happily say that `netcrypt` is ready for public use: https://github.com/ReallySecureShell/netcrypt

L37[09:26:23] <Kristo​pher38> Damn, that's really neat

L38[09:27:41] <Kristo​pher38> An idea: bundle a pure lua crypto library and use that instead of the data card, I've heard it's faster (contrary to what you might think)

L39[09:28:27] <tS​haw> I should, however I chose the datacard because it's just something readily available

L40[09:29:25] <tS​haw> I think there are a few packages that do add some cryptographic algorithms as libraries

L41[09:32:45] <Izaya> pretty cool :D

L42[09:33:19] <Izaya> would be good for building like, dedicated VPN appliances or something

L43[09:33:43] <Izaya> vtunnel but over data cards over public infrastructure

L45[09:37:44] <Forec​aster> %tonkout

L46[09:37:46] <MichiBot> Yippee! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 57 minutes and 5 seconds (By 18 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L47[09:37:47] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.16665627, Position #3 Need 0.08016373 more points to pass Mic​hiyo!

L48[11:07:29] <luna​r_sam> i still need to make my pure lua impl of icekey work

L49[11:07:32] <luna​r_sam> correctly

L50[11:07:33] <luna​r_sam> lol

L53[11:10:52] <Forec​aster> software can't work correctly, that's impossible

L55[11:55:05] <B​ob> so my font ligatures are uterrly corrupted, and also cyrillic characters, what do i do, will try a reboot ? XFCE4 btw

L56[11:57:23] <B​ob> well a reboot did it

L57[12:46:52] <Amanda> Good mews everyone, through my divining dreams I have glimpsed the next eldritch horror that gnome will inflict upon us! DBUS over Bluetooth. So, of course, you shall be using dbus to talk dbus to Bluetooth!

L58[12:48:38] <Amanda> They somehow managed at strong arm google into making phones supply a Google assistant API over dbus over Bluetooth!

L59[12:54:22] <Amanda> I shall be taking no further questions, -lays her head back on elfi and continues irradiating-

L61[14:15:58] <tS​haw> >Amanda: Good mews everyone, through my divining dreams I have glimpsed the next …

L62[14:15:58] <tS​haw> Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

L63[14:16:44] <Amanda> hahahahahahaha it liiivvveeesssss

L64[14:16:58] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/FEvicvIzPnDFJHRpjaXxLawq/screenshot-1651932997.png

L65[14:18:46] <Amanda> dequbed: so, it turns out the sigsegv'ing in my C++ fuckery was because I wasn't pointing clang at the GCC toolchain to use it's entry points or whatever. Now I have no idea how to tell clang that for the target the ld.so isn't at /lib/ld.so.1 but /lib/ld-musl-riscv64.so.1 -- so I just made a symlink

L66[14:23:35] <Amanda> I have no idea why this was working fine with the clang in my debian lxc container, but not the nixos clang, but vOv

L67[14:25:11] <dequbed> Interesting. Well, cross compilation is weird and arcane ^^

L69[15:21:32] <Wat​tana> Preemption using interrupts is my current excuse for non-Lua architecture in OC https://tinyurl.com/yxe2p8ve

L70[15:22:09] <Wat​tana> Although I still haven't even started making a scheduler yet let alone executable loading

L71[16:26:12] <Va​ur> %tonk

L72[16:26:14] <MichiBot> Yay! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 48 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L73[16:26:15] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 6 hours, 48 minutes and 28 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00681 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L78[17:30:10] <Ocawes​ome101> @Wattana which arch is that?

L79[17:30:17] <Wat​tana> Thistle

L80[17:30:25] <Wat​tana> (And CC65)

L81[17:31:09] <Ocawes​ome101> Neat

L82[17:31:13] <Wat​tana> No fucking idea on kernel development with C lmao

L83[17:31:30] <Wat​tana> I got stumped at IRQ uptime counter thinking "what do I do now?"

L84[17:31:33] <Ocawes​ome101> 6502 isn’t really designed for preemption or for that matter anything really complicated

L85[17:33:12] <Wat​tana> >Ocawesome101: 6502 isn’t really designed for preemption or for that matter anything real…

L86[17:33:12] <Wat​tana> a C compiler helps a lot with that. I have yet to feel C impacting the speed though, prob bc how barebone my codes currently are

L87[17:48:44] <Kristo​pher38> m68k arch when

L88[17:49:21] <Kristo​pher38> it would be pleasant to write for both in assembly and in C

L89[17:50:29] <Wat​tana> >Kristopher38: it would be pleasant to write for both in assembly and in C

L90[17:50:30] <Wat​tana> I generally try to stay away from mixing asm and c

L93[18:42:11] <Forec​aster> %sip

L94[18:42:12] <MichiBot> You drink a basic salmon potion (New!). The potion bottle is suddenly on fire! Forecaster takes 1d​4 => 1 fire damage before letting go of it!

L95[18:42:21] <Forec​aster> ouch

L98[18:47:13] <Va​ur> %sip

L99[18:47:13] <MichiBot> You drink a viscous violium potion (New!). Vaur feels slightly stronger.

L100[19:25:04] <TheChose​nSquirrel> Not sure if its possible , so I thought I would ask ... is a Graphical display even possible in OC2 . I have been looking around I can't seem to find out how . Obviously OC commands don't work ... not even sure if the functionality has been made possible yet .

L101[19:27:28] <Michiyo> Yeah... Sangar liked someone's tweet, of them running doom: https://twitter.com/SangarWasTaken/status/1518532404192886785 So yeah, you can do Graphical output

L102[19:30:30] <TheChose​nSquirrel> Really? I have been searching for the library ... good to know. But that is so awesome I can't even express... how awesome that it

L103[19:30:42] <TheChose​nSquirrel> Really? I have been searching for the library ... good to know. But that is so awesome I can't even express... how awesome that is [Edited]

L104[19:32:33] <TheChose​nSquirrel> thank you for pointing me in the right direction

L105[19:54:28] <Wat​tana> bit the bullet and wrote my own memory alloc and free functions bc fuck me https://tinyurl.com/y6pud32f

L106[20:18:22] <TheChose​nSquirrel> how do you run a c , c++ or python script do you have to compile them outside the game and put them in ?

L107[20:19:45] <Wat​tana> c & c++ you have to compile

L108[20:20:11] <Wat​tana> python(specifically .py files) you need a python installation

L109[20:20:32] <Wat​tana> oh if you meant python in oc

L110[20:20:45] <Wat​tana> i think the addons are supposed to ship with python built-in

L111[20:20:56] <TheChose​nSquirrel> like in the computer in OC2

L112[20:21:12] <Wat​tana> c & c++ you still need a compiler and an addon implement an architecture that can be targeted

L113[20:21:35] <Wat​tana> the code above is for Thistle which implements a 6502 CPU emulator(plus some extras)

L114[20:21:49] <Wat​tana> CC65 is the compiler I used

L115[20:22:20] <Wat​tana> mfw corruptions 💀 https://tinyurl.com/y42wnxyw

L118[20:29:44] <Forec​aster> This is tricky...

L119[20:29:46] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y4s4d2ay

L120[20:30:11] <Forec​aster> the ship correctly targeted the shiny asteroid, but there's another asteroid in front of it that spins

L121[20:30:56] <Forec​aster> I'm gonna have to try to figure out some way of determining if the target shiny is being obscured

L122[20:39:03] <TheChose​nSquirrel> >Wattana: i think the addons are supposed to ship with python built-in

L123[20:39:04] <TheChose​nSquirrel> addons for OC2 or OC the python and python3 command return errors so I am thinking its not included unless there is something I am missing. I am using the new linux based Open computers 2 which emulates real hardware

L124[20:39:21] <Amanda> OC2 has micropython

L125[20:39:35] <Amanda> Not sure if the bin is named python3 or something else

L126[20:54:27] <TheChose​nSquirrel> https://tinyurl.com/y34dkn4r

L127[21:02:52] <Amanda> What version are you on?

L128[21:03:25] <Amanda> "/usr/bin/micropython" exists for me

L129[21:03:38] <Amanda> Keep in mind "real" linux doesn't keep all binaries in /bin

L130[21:05:15] <Amanda> You'll notice "lua" is in "/usr/bin" as well, for example

L131[21:05:57] <TheChose​nSquirrel> ... Im an idiot ... i was looking in the root directory bin

L132[21:06:27] <TheChose​nSquirrel> thank you so much BTW

L133[21:06:37] <Amanda> Don't worry, the invoice is in the mail

L134[21:06:41] <Amanda> :P

L135[21:06:55] <TheChose​nSquirrel> :HAHA:

L136[21:07:36] <Amanda> Hey @Sangar any chance we can update to a newer buildroot? Maybe one with gcc 10.3? 10.2.0 has a bug in C++ that makes me sad. :P

L137[21:11:45] <Amanda> Specifically, https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=93083

L138[21:12:32] <Wat​tana> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/pateceneyi

L139[21:30:27] <Amanda> Depends on your preference. Also short single line things like that don't really need to be code blocks, which don't bridge wrll

L141[22:07:46] <Ocawes​ome101> @Wattana the second is more pragmatic aiui

L142[22:08:19] <Ocawes​ome101> that way you can use the same `component_data_t` for everything e.g. when iterating, and it does less memory allocation

L143[22:08:32] <Ocawes​ome101> or, something like that

L145[22:48:42] <luna​r_sam> >Ocawesome101: that way you can use the same `component_data_t` for everything e.g. when it…

L146[22:48:42] <luna​r_sam> ye

L147[22:48:51] <luna​r_sam> also you wouldn't even have to alloc

L148[22:49:03] <luna​r_sam> like, no dynamic alloc needed

L149[22:49:24] <luna​r_sam> you could pass a pointer to a variable in the scope

L150[22:49:32] <luna​r_sam> also, it should return an int

L151[22:49:34] <luna​r_sam> for error codes

L152[23:19:36] <TheChose​nSquirrel> I can't figure out the proper syntax to get the list of devices with micropython and I have gotten to the point of

L153[23:19:36] <TheChose​nSquirrel> import devices

L154[23:20:09] <TheChose​nSquirrel> devices.DeviceBus.list()

L155[23:23:26] <TheChose​nSquirrel> but I don't know what attribute it wants me to input . imputing devices returns a error where it says it doesn't have a flush .

L156[23:25:24] <Amanda> I think DeviceBus is a class

L157[23:25:58] <Va​ur> %tonkout

L158[23:25:58] <MichiBot> Yippee! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours, 48 minutes and 28 seconds (By 11 minutes and 16 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L159[23:25:59] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.41147373, Position #1

L160[23:26:32] <Amanda> But it's been a hot minute since I looked at that source

L161[23:26:47] <Amanda> I've been doing cursed zig and c++ impls

L164[23:40:47] <TheChose​nSquirrel> >Amanda: I think DeviceBus is a class

L165[23:40:47] <TheChose​nSquirrel> idk probably trying to run before I can walk its been a long time since I did anything in python... I know I am doing something in regards to syntax wrong