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L1[00:06:03] <Ocawes​ome101> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJSW7Rprio this is fascinating
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L3[01:23:51] <Michiyo> %tonk
L4[01:23:51] <MichiBot> Eh! Mic​hiyo! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L5[01:23:52] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 2 hours and 44 seconds! Michiyo also gained 0.00201 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.03827627 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L8[02:03:37] <Amanda> You should fear the many extra-dimensional beings, like Cthulhu and the other old ones. Or *shudders* carnies
L9[02:05:25] * Amanda lays down ontop of the ac vent, meows sleepily at a led her sleep deprived mind thinks is Elfi until she starts to zzzmew
L10[02:05:45] <Amanda> Night needs
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L15[03:24:41] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L16[03:24:42] <MichiBot> Blast! Forec​aster! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of 2 hours and 44 seconds (By 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L17[03:24:43] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours and 50 seconds! Position #2. Need 0.10712746 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L19[03:25:20] <Michiyo> ...
L20[03:25:27] <Michiyo> 5 seconds...
L21[03:26:01] <Ashleigh​TheCutie> *pat pat*
L22[03:26:01] <Ashleigh​TheCutie> it's okai michi
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L29[05:04:11] <Hitler With​ A Mech Suit> is there anywhere that someone has made an oc port to 1.16?
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L31[05:19:01] <Ocawes​ome101> @Hitler With A Mech Suit there are no ports, but there's OC2
L32[05:19:14] <Ocawes​ome101> which is for 1.18 and is based on a RISC-V emulator
L33[05:25:10] <Michiyo> %tonkout
L34[05:25:10] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Mic​hiyo, you were not able to beat Forec​aster's record of 2 hours and 50 seconds this time. 2 hours and 28 seconds were wasted! Missed by 21 seconds!
L35[05:25:14] <Michiyo> FUCK
L36[05:27:03] <Hitler With​ A Mech Suit> >Ocawesome101: <@270001959916797952> there are no ports, but there's OC2
L37[05:27:03] <Hitler With​ A Mech Suit> holy crap how did I not know about this until now? that looks awesome!
L38[05:28:57] <Hitler With​ A Mech Suit> alright I was just trying to get a 1.16 modpack going and wanted to add OC to it bc I like it. only issue was that it isnt ported to that version. is there any chance that it will be ported to 1.16 or are we jumping to 1.18 with OC2?
L39[05:42:38] <Ocawes​ome101> it's straight to 1.18
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L45[07:40:15] <Michiyo> %tonkout
L46[07:40:16] <MichiBot> Yow! Mic​hiyo! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours and 50 seconds (By 14 minutes and 15 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L47[07:40:17] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.001 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.9723. Position #3 Need 0.03477627 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L48[07:47:24] <Hitler With​ A Mech Suit> what exactly is that command?
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L52[08:20:05] <Forec​aster> >Hitler With A Mech Suit: what exactly is that command?
L53[08:20:05] <Forec​aster> %tonkleaders read here
L54[08:20:06] <MichiBot> https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L55[08:21:17] <Hitler With​ A Mech Suit> thanks
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L58[08:35:17] <Forec​aster> %sip
L59[08:35:17] <MichiBot> You drink a slimy chocolate potion (New!). Forecaster's skin turn pear until they tonk.
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L65[09:12:55] <Izaya> ah, good to see my filters work perfectly
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L67[09:15:58] <Forec​aster> hrm, it doesn't work well at distance...
L68[09:16:10] <Forec​aster> input https://tinyurl.com/y5r4qdy2
L69[09:16:17] <Forec​aster> output https://tinyurl.com/y38ykh2r
L70[09:16:53] <Forec​aster> although it's finding asteroids, but looking for the biggest region in this case ain't gonna work
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L73[09:41:25] <Forec​aster> at least I've learned that region 0 is always the background, so I can ignore that
L74[09:58:09] <Va​ur> %tonk
L75[09:58:09] <MichiBot> Blast! Va​ur! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 17 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L76[09:58:11] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 17 minutes and 53 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0023 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L79[10:43:15] <jwggamer> hiii
L80[10:43:19] <jwggamer> meow
L81[10:43:26] <jwggamer> hello
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L83[10:43:29] <jwggamer> hiiii
L84[10:43:30] <Euan> hello
L85[10:43:32] <Euan> hi
L86[10:43:32] <jwggamer> lol
L87[10:43:36] <Euan> it is i
L88[10:43:38] <Euan> euan
L89[10:43:58] <Euan> and i am in a space station with jwggamer
L90[10:45:02] <Euan> anyway
L91[10:45:06] <Euan> how is everyone?
L92[10:46:06] <Euan> uuuuuuuuuuuuuh
L93[10:46:51] <B​ob> not good as always
L94[10:47:37] <Euan> thats sad
L95[10:47:40] <Euan> anyway
L96[10:47:47] <Euan> im going to play mazer
L97[10:47:48] <Euan> bye
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L104[12:05:46] <Z0id​berg> >Forecaster: at least I've learned that region 0 is always the background, so I can igno…
L105[12:05:47] <Z0id​berg> Try converting to grayscale (either by avg(r,g,b) or more accurate- HSL and preserve the L and pass it through histogram equalization first? The outlines you have there will become very very bright
L106[12:06:39] <Z0id​berg> At least they should
L107[12:06:42] <Forec​aster> it's already being converted to grayscale first
L108[12:06:50] <Z0id​berg> Cool
L109[12:07:18] <Forec​aster> I'm using the skimage library
L110[12:07:26] <Z0id​berg> Histogram equalization is one of the most common filters used in DSP for processing distinctions between contents of an image, it may help. It probably has a filter for it
L111[12:09:24] <Forec​aster> there's a bunch of stuff being done after the grayscale conversion to produce the above output I don't understand
L112[12:10:06] <Amanda> Like ritual sacrifice
L113[12:10:16] <Forec​aster> probably
L114[12:10:27] <Amanda> As long as it's not cats
L115[12:10:57] <Z0id​berg> I'm looking at the image
L116[12:11:00] <Forec​aster> it's people who ask incredibly stupid questions
L117[12:11:04] <Z0id​berg> grayscale version: https://tinyurl.com/yxdegcsr
L118[12:11:18] <Z0id​berg> After histogram:
L119[12:11:20] <Z0id​berg> https://tinyurl.com/yys9lkxv
L120[12:11:43] <Forec​aster> that's very good
L121[12:11:47] <Z0id​berg> it changes the contrast map to become equalized across the entire image
L122[12:11:55] <Z0id​berg> may help
L123[12:11:58] <Forec​aster> now how do I do that
L124[12:12:40] <Z0id​berg> you said you were using scikit right?
L125[12:12:55] <Forec​aster> skimage
L126[12:13:01] <Z0id​berg> I thought that's what skimage was
L127[12:13:15] <Forec​aster> I have no idea
L128[12:13:32] <Z0id​berg> Python right?
L129[12:13:38] <Forec​aster> yes
L130[12:13:48] <Z0id​berg> Yeah they are the same according to a page I found
L131[12:13:48] <Z0id​berg> https://scikit-image.org/docs/stable/auto_examples/color_exposure/plot_equalize.html
L132[12:13:53] <Z0id​berg> Here's a page on histograms for it
L133[12:14:03] <Z0id​berg> and how they work
L134[12:14:49] <Z0id​berg> I am no expert on DSP, but I took a DSP grad class at my local university once, and a lot of the times the problems we had were often in the filtering and preprocessing and not the network
L135[12:15:21] <Z0id​berg> Mostly just trying to make the data as easily processable for the network as possible
L136[12:17:09] <Forec​aster> I've never done any of this before
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L138[12:22:59] <Forec​aster> oh, I also invert the image
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L140[12:24:28] <Amanda> %choose spaaace or play with code again today
L141[12:24:29] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: A wizard is never late, and sometimes engages in some "spaaace".
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L143[12:26:09] <Forec​aster> hm https://tinyurl.com/yxozxljs
L144[12:26:29] <lunar_sam> https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/C20x7BlHR6ToUtYelXI7LMy03IYHYgEi4L3GCMls/screenshot957.png
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L146[12:27:08] <lunar_sam> https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/c44a7f29876bb754953efd718432c3cb3316b2da/7RXXmYjvXbCD5d1NZYn24ZRfyfTIJ4fpQLzzOnbA/screenshot962.png
L147[12:27:39] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/yys58knp
L148[12:27:41] <Forec​aster> there we go
L149[12:28:26] <Forec​aster> and after inversion and filtering (now after the equalization) https://tinyurl.com/y6ne85d9
L150[12:30:50] <Amanda> Oh good. The gravity generator's radiactive
L151[12:31:10] <Forec​aster> positively radiant
L152[12:31:20] <Izaya> that's because generating gravity is illegal
L153[12:31:44] <Forec​aster> Big gravity doesn't want you to do that
L154[12:38:18] <Forec​aster> huh...
L155[12:38:33] <Forec​aster> the region parse is now outputting a black image...
L156[12:39:19] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L157[12:39:19] <MichiBot> Yay! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 17 minutes and 53 seconds (By 23 minutes and 15 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L158[12:39:20] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.12050373, Position #1
L159[12:45:35] <Forec​aster> well, the output is now this https://tinyurl.com/y6eo6ohj
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L162[12:47:49] <Amanda> Hummm do I really feel like building an addition to this station in survival mode...
L163[12:48:44] <Kristo​pher38> @Forecaster what are you trying to accomplish though
L164[12:49:29] <Forec​aster> identifying asteroids and getting their position
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L169[13:00:54] <Forec​aster> at this distance I mainly need it do be able to tell there's a lump of asteroids somewhere
L170[13:01:21] <Forec​aster> as it gets closer and scans again it should be able to tell them apart more accurately
L171[13:23:49] <Forec​aster> okay, that seems to work okay, now to orient the ship towards the region closest to the reticule
L172[13:27:37] <Forec​aster> the worst part of this: tuning the turn ratio of the ship to the distance in pixels
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L184[13:46:42] <Forec​aster> ah, right
L185[13:46:50] <Forec​aster> acceleration is a thing as well...
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L187[13:54:37] <Amanda> %choose get some spider meat or just go back to space to try and make a cake
L188[13:54:37] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I received a telegram from a long lost relative that only read "just go back to space to try and make a cake". Weird.
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L191[14:10:01] <Forec​aster> There we go! High accuracy achieved by turning in small increments
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L195[15:20:00] <Z0id​berg> Also a cool easy trick I dunno if you knew..
L196[15:20:24] <Amanda> Rub peanutbutter on the CPU
L197[15:20:25] <Z0id​berg> but if you take a screenshot of something and then another one, and subtract the second one from the first one, you will end up with only objects that have moved in the image
L198[15:20:38] <Z0id​berg> everything else will stay where it is
L199[15:20:46] <Z0id​berg> I nmean, everything else will be erased agh
L200[15:21:21] <Z0id​berg> There are probably too many objects to do that trick here
L201[15:23:00] <Forec​aster> not sure how well that'd work since they don't move, they just spin in place
L202[15:39:23] <Michiyo> %tonk
L203[15:39:23] <MichiBot> Yippee! Mic​hiyo! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L204[15:39:24] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 3 hours and 4 seconds! Michiyo also gained 0.003 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.03177627 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L205[15:42:19] <Forec​aster> sigh
L206[15:42:34] <Forec​aster> when the light conditions changes this happens... https://tinyurl.com/y5zjecnj
L207[15:43:10] <dequbed> Izaya: Can we burn down XMPP? … Like all of it? Please?
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L216[18:01:23] <Forec​aster> bah
L217[18:01:45] <Forec​aster> it's really hard to distinguish the asteroids from the background
L218[18:04:58] <Forec​aster> ...I tried passing the image directly to the labeling function and it gave me this https://tinyurl.com/y4gaydhh
L219[18:05:13] <Forec​aster> from this https://tinyurl.com/y5rznoqj
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L221[19:26:49] <Va​ur> %tonk
L222[19:26:49] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Va​ur! You beat Mic​hiyo's previous record of 3 hours and 4 seconds (By 47 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L223[19:26:50] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 47 minutes and 26 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00316 (0.00079 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L225[20:13:42] <Amanda> Gorram spawn-camping Ziriax
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L227[20:29:06] <Amanda> %choose comfort or utility
L228[20:29:06] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Huh, what? "utility" I guess, now leave me alone I'm playing Tetris.
L229[20:29:23] <Amanda> Hrm, Comfort.
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L231[20:34:38] <Va​ur> %sip
L232[20:34:39] <MichiBot> You drink a spooned yellow potion (New!). The bottle turns into a sword.
L233[20:34:45] <Va​ur> mmmm
L234[21:31:12] <Forec​aster> Well that's not gonna work https://tinyurl.com/y5xver3u
L235[21:32:16] <Forec​aster> the closest target happened to be on the ship.... https://tinyurl.com/y3d3d5er
L236[21:32:47] <Forec​aster> I'm gonna need to figure out how to mask out the ship bit with black so the labeling ignores it
L237[21:40:06] <Forec​aster> can I just draw a mask image and multiply the filtered image by it
L238[21:52:17] <Forec​aster> hm, no
L239[22:02:12] <Ar​iri> what are you trying to do?
L240[22:03:24] <Forec​aster> right now I'm trying to figure out how to combine my source image and the mask
L241[22:03:48] <Ar​iri> what's the goal
L242[22:05:06] <Amanda> cheating at E:D
L243[22:05:10] <Amanda> :P
L244[22:05:14] <Forec​aster> a script that locates and probes asteroids on its own
L245[22:05:24] <Ar​iri> kek
L246[22:05:49] <Ar​iri> funny how we all think of the same thing sometimes
L247[22:05:52] <Ar​iri> gl :P
L248[22:06:21] <Forec​aster> some bits are more difficult that others
L249[22:06:53] <Forec​aster> for example there's no good way to know when limpets expire or fail
L250[22:08:33] <Michiyo> @Forecaster is that recorded in the journal perhaps?
L251[22:08:42] <Forec​aster> nope
L252[22:08:54] <dequbed> Long shot but does anybody here happen to have experience with or knowledge of an algorithm for recompression-resistant steganography for JPEG / other lossily compressed image formats?
L253[22:08:55] <Michiyo> Damn was going to suggest reading it lol
L254[22:09:19] <Forec​aster> I do that for the probing, that prints the asteroid contents nicely
L255[22:09:30] <Forec​aster> but collector limpets? not a peep
L256[22:09:44] <Michiyo> Dang
L257[22:10:17] <Michiyo> dequbed, I know what most of those words mean independently....
L258[22:10:58] <Forec​aster> I see three potential ways to detect it, 1. the audio that plays, 2. the message in the log in the top right, or 3. the "ammo" counter
L259[22:11:16] <Ar​iri> audio freq of ship VA or the sound itself was my idea
L260[22:11:32] <dequbed> Michiyo: I want to invisibly watermark pictures in a way that survives them being e.g. uploaded to twitter or send via IM service that compresses the pictures.
L261[22:11:42] <Ar​iri> arent there some image steg tools that support increasing the tolerance of the steg specifically for reducing data loss with compression?
L262[22:13:12] <Ar​iri> arent there some image steg tools that support increasing the redundancy of the steg specifically for reducing data loss with compression? [Edited]
L263[22:14:13] <dequbed> I mean it'll end up with something like that, yes. I'd like to know the underlying algorithm though so I can build a tool myself :p
L264[22:17:13] <Ar​iri> this probably doesn't help but I found this https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16886303/whats-the-best-practice-for-image-steganography-resistant-to-various-attacks
L265[22:17:53] <Ar​iri> I've seen AES, LSB, and ECC a few times
L266[22:20:12] <dequbed> Oh yeah I already have almost perfectly random data, its a watermark. I just want to make sure that the watermark doesn't get removed easily / without the image quality being seriously degraded.
L267[22:42:39] <Forec​aster> https://xkcd.com/2607/
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