L1[00:01:21] <lunar_sam> heh
L2[00:01:37] <lunar_sam> yeah, i wanna make
Tsuki and Zorya for OC2
L3[00:01:49] ⇨
Joins: lordpipe (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.50)
L4[00:02:48] <lunar_sam> >cpio is
included
L5[00:02:50] <lunar_sam> oh yeah
L6[00:02:59] <lunar_sam> an archive util i
remember how to use
L7[00:03:07] <lunar_sam> `i can extract
archives with tar but not make them`
L8[00:04:18] 
<Ocawesome101> `tar cf file dir`
<Ocawesome101> `tar cf file dir`L9[00:04:29] <lunar_sam> ah
L10[00:04:31] <lunar_sam> neat
L11[00:04:41] <lunar_sam> i'll still use
cpio because i'm stuborn
L12[00:05:06] <Ocawesome101> it took me quite a bit to
be able to remember how to use tar without needing to consult the
man page every time :P
<Ocawesome101> it took me quite a bit to
be able to remember how to use tar without needing to consult the
man page every time :PL13[00:05:32] <lunar_sam> lmao
L14[00:05:41] <lunar_sam> i got used to
cpio after using cpios for zorya
L15[00:06:18] <lunar_sam> `find dir | cpio
-oF file` or `find dir | cpio -o | compressor > file`
L16[00:06:38] <Ocawesome101> i should write an mtar util
that works in standard lua
<Ocawesome101> i should write an mtar util
that works in standard luaL17[00:07:58] <lunar_sam> wait what
L18[00:08:00] <lunar_sam> it has
lzma?
L19[00:08:28] <Ocawesome101> eh?
<Ocawesome101> eh?L20[00:09:39] <Amanda> Okay, I don't have
the spoons to debug what the hell that poll is doing in the
devices.lua so I just cheated, now I re-open the device node every
RPC!
L21[00:09:44] <lunar_sam> lzma is
included
L22[00:09:46] <lunar_sam> lmfao
L23[00:09:54] <lunar_sam> i uh
L24[00:10:00] <lunar_sam> i dunno if it has
enough RAM for that
L25[00:10:44] <lunar_sam>
hm
<lunar_sam>
hmL26[00:10:50] <lunar_sam>
i wonder if lcpio would work on here
<lunar_sam>
i wonder if lcpio would work on hereL27[00:11:09] <lunar_sam> oh there's no
luaposix
L28[00:11:10] <lunar_sam> shame
L29[00:20:04] <lunar_sam> where's the
source for the linux flash?
L30[00:42:49] ⇨
Joins: ThePiGuy24
(~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-122-174.as13285.net)
L31[00:43:32] ⇦
Quits: TPG24 (~ThePiGuy2@host-92-16-9-254.as13285.net) (Ping
timeout: 189 seconds)
L32[00:52:04] ⇦
Quits: lordpipe (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.50) (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xacQ09F.mp4)
L33[00:58:27] ⇨
Joins: lordpipe (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.50)
L34[01:20:41] ⇦
Quits: lordpipe (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.50) (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xacQ09F.mp4)
L35[01:22:20] ⇦
Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-6-121.dynamic.as20676.net)
(Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L36[01:23:45] ⇨
Joins: lordpipe (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.50)
L37[01:27:18] ⇦
Quits: lordpipe (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.50) (Client
Quit)
L38[01:34:14] ⇨
Joins: Izaya_ (~izaya@210.1.218.92)
L39[01:34:14] ⇦
Quits: Izaya (~izaya@210.1.218.92) (Read error: Connection reset by
peer)
L40[01:47:33] ⇨
Joins: caden
(~caden@c-73-11-191-191.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
L41[01:47:39] <caden> gaming
L42[01:48:10] <caden> haha
L43[01:48:16] <caden> i
jahsdfljhkzbsdfl;kzjdsbf;zklsdjnfbzpsidjfnosdijvnapoigjfh;ezoihrgf
L44[01:49:15] <caden> reboot
L45[01:49:15] ⇦
Quits: caden (~caden@c-73-11-191-191.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) (Client
Quit)
L46[01:49:25] ⇨
Joins: caden
(~caden@c-73-11-191-191.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
L47[01:50:11] <caden> hi
L48[01:50:46] <caden> @michiyo
L49[01:51:02] <caden> jajajaja
L50[01:54:18] <lunar_sam> ._.
L51[01:54:40] <caden> hi
L52[01:54:42] <caden> discord im mc
L53[01:58:16] ⇦
Quits: caden (~caden@c-73-11-191-191.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) (Ping
timeout: 189 seconds)
L54[01:59:12] ⇦
Quits: flappy (~flappy@91-154-0-54.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Ping
timeout: 189 seconds)
L55[01:59:40] <Ariri> CompanionCube: I know
what I've said about crypto and all, but I cannot defend NFTs (at
least, how they've been popularized and such) for my life
L56[02:00:26] <CompanionCube> i like the
description of them as the 'star registry' scam with extra
blockchain
L57[02:00:42] ⇨
Joins: lordpipe (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.50)
L58[02:03:45] <Amanda> lunar_sam: but we
have luaposix at home. Luaposix at home: fnctl
L59[02:04:14] <lunar_sam> heh
L60[02:04:29] <lunar_sam> i can't wait to
be able to make a custom OS/firmware for OC2 :v
L61[02:04:54] <Amanda> At least that's what
devices.lua uses for file and polling
L62[02:05:04] <Amanda> File Io*
L63[02:05:16] <lunar_sam> i wanna make velx
loading firmware :v
L64[02:05:21] <lunar_sam> and then make
zorya
L65[02:06:13] <Amanda> Now that we can make
our own disk images easily, I want to try something I made
long-long ago. The Linux init process isn't really magic in it's
responsibilities
L66[02:06:37] <Amanda> So I made a Linux
distro that booted into nyancat
L67[02:06:48] <Izaya_> install lupi2
L68[02:06:57] ***
Izaya_ is now known as Izaya
L69[02:10:57] <Amanda> @Sangar is there any
game/balance reason I shouldn't use a <8mb disk drive in a
recipe for a custom disk? Just want to make sure I'm not going to
make free disk space via a cheaper recipe
L70[02:12:45] <Amanda> I mean, I'll do it
anyway, just curious of I should attach a warning to the datapack I
want to make
L71[02:20:21] ⇦
Quits: lordpipe (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.50) (Quit: https://i.imgur.com/xacQ09F.mp4)
L72[02:32:19] ⇦
Quits: ben_mkiv
(~ben_mkiv@200116b814713500fe3497fffea975f2.dip.versatel-1u1.de)
(Ping timeout: 192 seconds)
L74[02:54:21] <Amanda> Well, my laptop is
currently buried on my nightstand for the night, so task for
future-amanda.
L75[02:54:33] <Amanda> Future Amanda loves
past Amanda!
L76[02:58:45] ⇨
Joins: lordpipe (~ba7888b72@66.109.211.50)
L77[03:05:05] <Michiyo> %tonkout
L78[03:05:05] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
Michiyo! You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 34 minutes
and 58 seconds (By 1 hour, 21 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L79[03:05:06] <MichiBot> Michiyo has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points!
plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.32674, Position #3 Need 0.03235568 more points to pass
Forecaster!
L80[03:06:24] <Amanda> %splash Inari with
mutable yellow potion
L81[03:06:24] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable yellow potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns
into a gold fairy girl until someone stops looking at them.
L82[03:07:09] *
Amanda moves Inari so she's reflecting light twords Elfi, curls up
around Elfi (not obstructing the view) and zzzmews
L83[03:37:14] <CompanionCube> %loot
L84[03:37:15] <MichiBot> CompanionCube:
You get a loot box! It contains a tiny spoon. (Junk)
L85[04:27:47] ⇦
Quits: Thutmose (~Patrick@67.21.186.225) (Quit:
Leaving.)
L86[07:10:40] ⇨
Joins: fdddkhj (webchat@n11648109041.netvigator.com)
L87[07:10:55] <fdddkhj> hey
L88[07:11:11] ⇦
Quits: fdddkhj (webchat@n11648109041.netvigator.com) (Client
Quit)
L89[07:55:48] <Sangar>
>Amanda: <@96665277030203392> is there any game/balance
reason I shouldn't use a <…
<Sangar>
>Amanda: <@96665277030203392> is there any game/balance
reason I shouldn't use a <…L90[07:55:49] <Sangar>
Well, the resulting disk will have as much space as your image
(since is copied on init to make it writable, just like the builtin
Linux one). So I'd say, as rule of thumb, use as many disks in
combination to get as close to the image size as possible, or
something?
<Sangar>
Well, the resulting disk will have as much space as your image
(since is copied on init to make it writable, just like the builtin
Linux one). So I'd say, as rule of thumb, use as many disks in
combination to get as close to the image size as possible, or
something?L91[07:59:50] <Bob> i
think now if i port `termios` to `nostd` (using `acidio`) and
finally fix my HLAPI wrapper, it'll turnout only like 40 kB at
most
<Bob> i
think now if i port `termios` to `nostd` (using `acidio`) and
finally fix my HLAPI wrapper, it'll turnout only like 40 kB at
mostL92[08:00:06] <Bob>
altough i need to see if i can also get mini / micro serde troguth
the `no_std` barrier
<Bob>
altough i need to see if i can also get mini / micro serde troguth
the `no_std` barrierL93[08:00:22] <Bob> i do
have `alloc` given i have `libc` and just used `libc_alloc` to
rewire the `malloc`s
<Bob> i do
have `alloc` given i have `libc` and just used `libc_alloc` to
rewire the `malloc`sL94[08:30:14] ⇦
Quits: Hawk777 (~chead@2607:c000:8279:3f00:3a24:67c3:87ed:6d16)
(Quit: Leaving.)
L95[08:49:34] ⇨
Joins: Vexatos
(~Vexatos@port-92-192-6-121.dynamic.as20676.net)
L96[08:49:34] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L97[09:19:45] ⇦
Quits: Izaya (~izaya@210.1.218.92) (Ping timeout: 192
seconds)
L98[09:23:29] ⇨
Joins: Izaya (~izaya@210.1.218.92)
L99[09:45:58] <Michiyo> %tonk
L100[09:45:58] <MichiBot> Wild! Michiyo!
You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 40 minutes
and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L101[09:45:59] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new
record is 6 hours, 40 minutes and 52 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00668)
L102[10:31:48]
⇨ Joins: immibis_
(~hexchat@dynamic-046-114-038-006.46.114.pool.telefonica.de)
L103[10:33:27] ⇦
Quits: immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) (Ping timeout: 189
seconds)
L104[12:08:02] <dequbed> lunar_sam:
Consider yourself informed that OC2 in our pack isn't vanilla but
comes with our cursed patchset including but not limited to VXLAN
for connection to the outernet.
L105[12:10:45]
⇨ Joins: MajGenRelativity
(~MajGenRel@c-73-123-203-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
L106[12:12:12]
⇨ Joins: immibis
(~hexchat@dynamic-046-114-038-006.46.114.pool.telefonica.de)
L107[12:12:35] ⇦
Quits: immibis_
(~hexchat@dynamic-046-114-038-006.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) (Ping
timeout: 192 seconds)
L108[12:25:08]
⇨ Joins: ben_mkiv
(~ben_mkiv@200116b814713500fe3497fffea975f2.dip.versatel-1u1.de)
L109[12:26:52]
⇨ Joins: immibis_
(~hexchat@dynamic-046-114-038-006.46.114.pool.telefonica.de)
L110[12:27:00] ⇦
Quits: immibis
(~hexchat@dynamic-046-114-038-006.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) (Read
error: Connection reset by peer)
L111[12:30:04] <Bob>
>dequbed: lunar_sam: Consider yourself informed that OC2 in our
pack isn't vanil…
<Bob>
>dequbed: lunar_sam: Consider yourself informed that OC2 in our
pack isn't vanil…L112[12:30:04] <Bob> now
this is a cursed fork
<Bob> now
this is a cursed forkL113[12:46:19] <Amanda> @sangar ah, so
there's no magic expansion being done? That's good to know.
L114[12:48:40] <Amanda> I thought it
worked like how raspi sd images tend to work, the image size is
minimal then on first boot it'd expand the partition and fs
L115[13:04:11] <gruetzkopf> no, there is not
<gruetzkopf> no, there is notL116[13:35:46] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL117[13:35:47] <MichiBot> You drink a
warpy yellow potion (New!). Forecaster looks up and sees the moon
smile at them for a second.
L118[13:35:59] <Forecaster> That's pretty warped
<Forecaster> That's pretty warpedL119[13:47:16] <Amanda> Gotta love how
clangd assumes any type it doesn't know about is an int
L120[13:51:41] <dequbed> Because that's
what C dictates Amanda
L121[13:51:51] <dequbed> undefined types
*must* default to int
L122[13:52:45] <Amanda> ah
L123[13:54:48] <dequbed> If you have a
backwards-compatible compiler that means you can skip defining a
return type for functions by the way since that means it's
defaulted to int. AIUI that's also the reason why it's that way,
since returning a nonzero int is what C considers "error
handling"
L124[13:56:38] <Bob> i
like your magic words magic man
<Bob> i
like your magic words magic manL125[13:57:24] <dequbed> … what?
L126[14:09:53] <Z0idberg>
@Bob I thought dequbed identified as a dino mecha-robot model
1234B.
<Z0idberg>
@Bob I thought dequbed identified as a dino mecha-robot model
1234B.L127[14:11:57] <Amanda> Damn. I can't just
transplant my old nyan-os init process into OC2 and have it work.
Apparentlt it's using too much memory, making go choke and
die
L128[14:12:38] <dequbed> @Z0idberg I have
significantly fewer cybernetic parts than you might think. And
@Ariri is to blame for most of them seeing how her shenanigans cost
me an arm and a leg sometimes. :P
L129[14:13:22] <Z0idberg>
OMG LOL
<Z0idberg>
OMG LOLL130[14:13:40] <Z0idberg>
Unrelated but I was just reading the CVE details for mariadb's
latest security reports
<Z0idberg>
Unrelated but I was just reading the CVE details for mariadb's
latest security reportsL131[14:14:02] <Z0idberg>
The very first sentence in the bug report has a hilarious choice of
a particular word:
<Z0idberg>
The very first sentence in the bug report has a hilarious choice of
a particular word:L132[14:14:02] <dequbed> Amanda: We're
probably going to up the RAM stick sizes by a factor of 2 or 2.5.
IMHO Tier 1 should be enough to just about get a slim Linux
running, Tier 2 enough to get a fat Linux running like ours and be
able to do things and Tier 3 should leave you with plenty of free
RAM for shenanigans like that.
L133[14:14:02] <Z0idberg>
I used my fuzzing tool to test Mariadb , and found a bug that can
result in an abortion.
<Z0idberg>
I used my fuzzing tool to test Mariadb , and found a bug that can
result in an abortion.L134[14:14:20] <Z0idberg>
"Found a bug that can result in abortion". Huh.
<Z0idberg>
"Found a bug that can result in abortion". Huh.L135[14:15:00] <Z0idberg>
MDEV-25636
<Z0idberg>
MDEV-25636L137[14:23:17] <Amanda> dequbed: how much
of this are y'all planning to dump on @Sangar at once? :P
L138[14:23:48]
⇨ Joins: TPG24
(~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-122-174.as13285.net)
L139[14:23:59] ⇦
Quits: ThePiGuy24 (~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-122-174.as13285.net) (Ping
timeout: 189 seconds)
L140[14:24:00] <dequbed> Amanda: Third
degree burns are best taken in shifts :)
L141[14:24:43] <Amanda> dequbed: the
latest master would let you guys package your buildroot fork as a
datapack, at least.
L142[14:25:01] <Amanda> instead of having
to recompile all of OC2
L143[14:26:42] <dequbed> We're also
recompiling all of OC2 because a) custom patches like (proper
managed) switches, b) aformentioned VXLAN c) fiberoptic cables d)
we can't seem to get the Config loader to work so VXLAN config is
hard-coded.
L144[14:27:26] <dequbed> Wireguard in the
buildroot is the easy part, that's just unzipping the jar and
replacing the buildroot zip.
L145[14:27:39] <Amanda> :P
L146[14:27:52] <Amanda> Just saying it
means you don't have to diverge as far from upstream
L147[14:28:03] <Amanda> sure, it's a
trivial amount, but still a divergence
L148[14:28:19] <dequbed> It's not even all
that trivial now that I've started on PCI
L149[14:28:35] <dequbed> I'd like to get
all of that upstream don't worry but it isn't for now.
L150[14:29:07] <dequbed> And to not make
that a single gigantic PR touching every other file in the repo
there's a large amount of code untangling still to do.
L151[14:29:42]
⇨ Joins: Thutmose (~Patrick@67.21.186.225)
L152[14:33:40] <Z0idberg>
I want VLB
<Z0idberg>
I want VLBL153[14:33:49] <Z0idberg>
can has the VLB bus protocol?
<Z0idberg>
can has the VLB bus protocol?L154[14:34:25] <dequbed> VESA Local Bus?
That's publicly available IIRC.
L155[14:34:47] <Z0idberg>
I need a new VLB GPU...
<Z0idberg>
I need a new VLB GPU...L156[14:35:01] <Z0idberg>
I replaced my 486 motherboard, and it meant having to give up
PCI
<Z0idberg>
I replaced my 486 motherboard, and it meant having to give up
PCIL157[14:35:17] <Z0idberg>
The new one is a better board but it's ISA and VLB
<Z0idberg>
The new one is a better board but it's ISA and VLBL158[14:35:31] <dequbed> That sounds like
a major downgrade.
L159[14:35:55] <Z0idberg>
I just don't have any ISA video cards anymore
<Z0idberg>
I just don't have any ISA video cards anymoreL160[14:36:00] <Z0idberg>
and I definitely don
<Z0idberg>
and I definitely donL161[14:36:14] <Z0idberg>
don't have any VLB either, VLB was only around for a very short
period of time
<Z0idberg>
don't have any VLB either, VLB was only around for a very short
period of timeL162[14:36:50] <Z0idberg>
A Hercules VLB could be a good start
<Z0idberg>
A Hercules VLB could be a good startL164[14:38:24] <Z0idberg>
KLook at these monsters
<Z0idberg>
KLook at these monstersL165[14:39:39] <Z0idberg>
I would rather have a color SVGA card though
<Z0idberg>
I would rather have a color SVGA card thoughL166[14:40:04] <Z0idberg>
Especially if it is a VESA extensions SVGA alternative
<Z0idberg>
Especially if it is a VESA extensions SVGA alternativeL167[14:40:42] <Z0idberg>
Holy shit a mach32
<Z0idberg>
Holy shit a mach32L168[14:40:44] <Z0idberg>
https://www.ebay.com/itm/203832846506?hash=item2f756268aa:g:QP4AAOSwn5JiAe1O
<Z0idberg>
https://www.ebay.com/itm/203832846506?hash=item2f756268aa:g:QP4AAOSwn5JiAe1OL169[14:41:06] ⇦
Quits: ben_mkiv
(~ben_mkiv@200116b814713500fe3497fffea975f2.dip.versatel-1u1.de)
(Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by
ben_mkiv|afk!~ben_mkiv@2001:16b8:1e04:ab00:fe34:97ff:fea9:75f2)))
L170[14:41:09] <Z0idberg>
$72..
<Z0idberg>
$72..L171[14:41:10]
⇨ Joins: ben_mkiv|afk
(~ben_mkiv@2001:16b8:1e04:ab00:fe34:97ff:fea9:75f2)
L172[14:41:15] <Z0idberg>
I won't get paid by the time it's done 😦
<Z0idberg>
I won't get paid by the time it's done 😦L173[14:44:44] ⇦
Quits: Thutmose (~Patrick@67.21.186.225) (Quit:
Leaving.)
L174[14:45:23] <Z0idberg>
This has VESA extensions
<Z0idberg>
This has VESA extensionsL175[15:52:43] <lunar_sam> dequbed:
projectors when
L176[15:53:02] <dequbed> lunar_sam: When
one of us gets around to it, don't hold your breath.
L177[15:56:20] <gruetzkopf> >lunar_sam: dequbed:
projectors when
<gruetzkopf> >lunar_sam: dequbed:
projectors whenL178[15:56:20] <gruetzkopf> on the radar for one of the
next test builds
<gruetzkopf> on the radar for one of the
next test buildsL179[15:56:40] <lunar_sam> :eyes:
L180[15:56:48] <lunar_sam> also where do i
find the uhhh
L181[15:56:56] <lunar_sam> firmware source
code
L182[15:57:11] <lunar_sam> also EEPROM
flashing when?
L183[15:58:10] <lunar_sam> `i might be
dumb and there might already be EEPROM flashing`
L184[15:58:33]
⇨ Joins: Thutmose (~Patrick@67.21.186.225)
L185[15:58:38] <gruetzkopf> which part are you looking
for
<gruetzkopf> which part are you looking
forL186[15:58:48] <gruetzkopf> flash (linux) item?
<gruetzkopf> flash (linux) item?L187[15:58:56] <lunar_sam> ye
L188[15:58:59] <lunar_sam> the source of
the code on that
L189[15:59:24] <Kilobyte> I'd also really
love to see serial terminals :D but for now there are more
important things
L190[15:59:29] <lunar_sam> i know about
the buildroot
L191[16:00:17] <Kilobyte> The switch is
pretty much still PoC and the vxlan code needs major cleanup
L192[16:00:46] <gruetzkopf> not too sure, we haven't
touched that yet
<gruetzkopf> not too sure, we haven't
touched that yetL193[16:00:52] <Amanda> the flash is built
by buildroot as well, I believe?
L194[16:01:12] <Amanda> It's opensbi + the
linux kernel
L195[16:01:22] <Kilobyte> I think the
kernel is part of the flash, so that would make sense
L196[16:01:38] <lunar_sam> ah
L197[16:01:47] <lunar_sam> neat
L198[16:08:06] <dequbed> Kilobyte: The
whole of OC2 is basically a PoC, that shouldn't be a benchmark
:P
L199[16:22:31] <lunar_sam> :P
L200[16:25:40]
⇨ Joins: ThePiGuy24
(~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-122-174.as13285.net)
L201[16:26:05] ⇦
Quits: TPG24 (~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-122-174.as13285.net) (Ping
timeout: 189 seconds)
L202[16:32:12] <Izaya> CompanionCube:
allow me to summarise australian politics for the last several
years: https://shadowkat.net/tmp/6e71.mp4
L203[16:46:24] <Hunter 🏹>
Hey guys, I've been trying to play around with the early OC2
patches and am finding myself stuck repeatedly on this issue.
Trying to just call the move method of "robot"
device.
<Hunter 🏹>
Hey guys, I've been trying to play around with the early OC2
patches and am finding myself stuck repeatedly on this issue.
Trying to just call the move method of "robot"
device.L204[16:47:04] <Hunter 🏹>
All of the different versions of r:move aren't even on the screen
there. I've tried lots of dif things. I just don't understand what
I'm missing
<Hunter 🏹>
All of the different versions of r:move aren't even on the screen
there. I've tried lots of dif things. I just don't understand what
I'm missingL205[16:47:27] *
Amanda cackles manically:
L206[16:47:34] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/OdBOUZwvAxzzZmytLoXDUBwV/2022-02-15_11.47.19.png
L207[16:47:45] <Amanda> I'm finally
speaking the hlapi correctly! Praise be!
L208[16:48:55] <dequbed> Amanda:
Nice!
L209[16:54:00] <Amanda> Hunter: Can you
send the screenshot seperately, it doesn't bridge correctly
L210[16:54:34] <Amanda>
s/doesn't/didn't/
L211[16:54:34] <MichiBot> <Amanda>
Hunter: Can you send the screenshot seperately, it didn't bridge
correctly
L212[17:06:57] <lunar_sam> i should do a
funny
L213[17:07:09] <lunar_sam> nelua for
OC2
L214[17:24:53] <Michiyo>
Amanda their screenshot was:
<Michiyo>
Amanda their screenshot was:L216[17:25:21] <Amanda> Try "up"
instead of up
L217[17:25:53] <Amanda> @"Hunter
🏹" ^
L218[17:26:34] <Michiyo>
It actually managed to ping them, good job past me.
<Michiyo>
It actually managed to ping them, good job past me.L219[17:28:37] <Forecaster> Yay I'm back online (for real
online not with 4G)
<Forecaster> Yay I'm back online (for real
online not with 4G)L220[17:30:09] <Michiyo>
yay
<Michiyo>
yayL221[17:34:35] <Vaur> %tonk
L222[17:34:35] <MichiBot> Yay! Vaur! You
beat Michiyo's previous record of 6 hours, 40 minutes and 52
seconds (By 1 hour, 7 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L223[17:34:36] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 7 hours, 48 minutes and 37 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00791 (0.00113 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#1.
L224[17:46:49]
⇨ Joins: immibis
(~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-138-014.89.204.138.pool.telefonica.de)
L225[17:47:24] ⇦
Quits: immibis_
(~hexchat@dynamic-046-114-038-006.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) (Ping
timeout: 189 seconds)
L226[17:53:08] ⇦
Quits: ThePiGuy24 (~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-122-174.as13285.net) (Ping
timeout: 189 seconds)
L227[17:54:49]
⇨ Joins: ThePiGuy24
(~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-122-174.as13285.net)
L228[17:59:44] ⇦
Quits: MajGenRelativity
(~MajGenRel@c-73-123-203-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) (Quit:
Leaving)
L229[18:15:06] <lunar_sam> man, just got a
detangling brush and life is suddenly good
L230[18:20:54] <CompanionCube> 'an
abortion' is certainly an unusual way to phrase it....
L231[18:31:50] <Amanda> Well, that's not
good:
L232[18:32:00] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/cQameEcAYMVSfqVGudGsvecC/2022-02-15_13.31.45.png
L233[18:32:33] <Amanda> same file, my
import produces a different md5
L234[18:33:01] <Amanda> and it
segmentation faults, who'd have guessed?
L235[18:33:37] <Forecaster> not me
<Forecaster> not meL236[18:33:48] <Forecaster> my guesses are never
faulty
<Forecaster> my guesses are never
faultyL237[18:36:34] <Bob>
>Amanda: Well, that's not good:
<Bob>
>Amanda: Well, that's not good:L238[18:36:34] <Bob> i
once had a weird af, non executable thing after importing for some
reason
<Bob> i
once had a weird af, non executable thing after importing for some
reasonL239[18:36:42] <Bob> it
might just be faulty
<Bob> it
might just be faultyL240[18:37:23] <Amanda> I mean, in this
case it's most likely caused by my c++ reimplementation of
import.lua being broken somehwo
L241[18:37:38] <Amanda> imporitng a new
build with my HLAPI debug prints enabled to see if I can figure it
out
L242[18:42:32] <Bob> i
still need to figure out termios, make a stty wrapper in a `nostd`
context, and get `fs` into `nostd`
<Bob> i
still need to figure out termios, make a stty wrapper in a `nostd`
context, and get `fs` into `nostd`L243[18:42:39] <Bob>
wishing Rust's std was a bit more fragemented
<Bob>
wishing Rust's std was a bit more fragementedL244[18:45:26] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL245[18:45:28] <MichiBot> You drink a
bubbly mithril potion (New!). Forecaster's favourite hair suddenly
disintegrates.
L246[18:45:40] <Forecaster> aw
<Forecaster> awL247[18:46:46] <Kristopher38> `attempt to index a table
value`
<Kristopher38> `attempt to index a table
value`L248[18:46:49] <Kristopher38> now that's a new one
<Kristopher38> now that's a new oneL249[18:48:10] <Bob> very
nice
<Bob> very
niceL250[18:49:24] <Hunter 🏹>
>Amanda: Try "up" instead of up
<Hunter 🏹>
>Amanda: Try "up" instead of upL251[18:49:24] <Hunter 🏹>
That's what I had. My issue was that I had r:move("up",
true) when the true wasn't needed I suppose
<Hunter 🏹>
That's what I had. My issue was that I had r:move("up",
true) when the true wasn't needed I supposeL252[18:52:55] <Amanda> in the screenshot
you sent you had up, not "up" -- notice the quotes
L253[18:53:31] <Z0idberg>
file encoding problems, amanda?
<Z0idberg>
file encoding problems, amanda?L254[18:54:03] <Amanda> I'm opening it as
binary, so I don't think so, @Z0idberg
L255[18:55:07] <Z0idberg>
colordiff can be useful for this sometimes
<Z0idberg>
colordiff can be useful for this sometimesL257[18:58:25] <Z0idberg>
guess you could also use diff with xxd
<Z0idberg>
guess you could also use diff with xxdL258[18:58:31] <Z0idberg>
or hexdump -C
<Z0idberg>
or hexdump -CL259[19:09:59] <Amanda> Well, that'lll do
it. My hlapi code's getting partial read:
L260[19:10:06] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/MFtfrnkYsbGeGCJKCElIZOvM/2022-02-15_14.09.00.png
L261[19:10:27] <Amanda> and I guess
picojson's leanent enough to not care that there's no ] or }
L262[19:12:49] <Bob> i
dont know if i want to pursue to `no_std` rabbit hole, i got no
time at all
<Bob> i
dont know if i want to pursue to `no_std` rabbit hole, i got no
time at allL263[19:17:11] <Amanda> There we go, It
helps to properly read the protocol:
L264[19:17:17] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/LWquSByqxYHOwtDhAGjyiErI/2022-02-15_14.16.49.png
L265[19:17:29] <Amanda> and not just
assume a full read was successful
L266[19:21:31] <Amanda> and now I'm
checking picojson's error bit, instead of assuming the JSON is
fine, as apparently it can partially decode and returns the partial
result.
L267[19:21:43] <lunar_sam> i should
explore the HLAPI
L268[19:21:53] <Bob> its
just JSON
<Bob> its
just JSONL269[19:21:57] <lunar_sam> i know
L270[19:22:03] <Bob> the
hardest part is getting that damn stty to work
<Bob> the
hardest part is getting that damn stty to workL271[19:22:32] <Amanda> I mean. Nothing's
stopping you from just shelling out to the stty like the python
& Lua bindings do
L272[19:22:38] <sapphicfettucine> it's a really neat
protocol
<sapphicfettucine> it's a really neat
protocolL273[19:22:58] <Amanda> you just have to
do it after you open the file handle, otherwise it'll not apply,
unless that was a fluke in my own C++ impl
L274[19:22:59] <sapphicfettucine> i'm pretty happy with
how my proc macro bindings ended up
<sapphicfettucine> i'm pretty happy with
how my proc macro bindings ended upL275[19:23:11] <lunar_sam> i'm gonna make
an nelua library :)
L276[19:23:14] <sapphicfettucine> >Amanda: you just
have to do it after you open the file handle, otherwise it'll not
apply, u…
<sapphicfettucine> >Amanda: you just
have to do it after you open the file handle, otherwise it'll not
apply, u…L277[19:23:14] <sapphicfettucine> i'm pretty sure that's
it, yea
<sapphicfettucine> i'm pretty sure that's
it, yeaL278[19:23:32] <lunar_sam> also i have to
get a toolchain set up for it
L279[19:23:34] <lunar_sam> but o
well
L280[19:23:55] <lunar_sam> lol discord is
broken on my end
L281[19:24:13] <lunar_sam> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3Zx4bV0RE
L282[19:27:20] <sapphicfettucine> yeah discord is at it
again
<sapphicfettucine> yeah discord is at it
againL283[19:27:39] <sapphicfettucine> it's raining in the
data center again i guess
<sapphicfettucine> it's raining in the
data center again i guessL284[19:28:22] <lunar_sam> i'm kinda
impressed how unstable it is
L285[19:28:39] <CompanionCube> meanwhile
irc is fine
L286[19:28:51] <lunar_sam> yep <3
L287[19:28:57] <Ocawesome101> tfw irc
<Ocawesome101> tfw ircL288[19:28:57] <lunar_sam> so is
XMPP
L289[19:29:13] <sapphicfettucine> it's almost like cloud
architecture is a mess that's falling apart at the seams.
almost
<sapphicfettucine> it's almost like cloud
architecture is a mess that's falling apart at the seams.
almostL290[19:29:17] <lunar_sam> tfw XMPP
L291[19:31:01] <lunar_sam> >
<@sapphicfettucine> it's almost like cloud architecture is a
mess that's falling apart at the seams. almost
L292[19:31:01] <lunar_sam> CLOUD WEBSCALE
BLOCKHAIN SCALABLE CRYPTO NODE ASYNC BITCOIN METAVERSE NFT SMART
CONTRACT WEB3 i've run out of buzzwords at the moment
L293[19:31:28] <sapphicfettucine> don't forget running
programs on the ~edge~
<sapphicfettucine> don't forget running
programs on the ~edge~L294[19:32:11] <lunar_sam> why did we let
documents run code
L295[19:32:17] <lunar_sam> this is not
just the web
L296[19:32:32] <sapphicfettucine> it was a mistake we're
still paying for
<sapphicfettucine> it was a mistake we're
still paying forL297[19:32:52] <Ocawesome101> lunar_sam: don't forget
agile
<Ocawesome101> lunar_sam: don't forget
agileL298[19:33:05] <sapphicfettucine> honestly web3 is so
funny to me as a sysadmin. like. the scaling issues are so terrible
and people want to run the web on top of this?
<sapphicfettucine> honestly web3 is so
funny to me as a sysadmin. like. the scaling issues are so terrible
and people want to run the web on top of this?L299[19:33:21] <lunar_sam> is there still
msword VBS malware
L300[19:33:27] <sapphicfettucine> likely
<sapphicfettucine> likelyL301[19:33:34] <lunar_sam> web3 is
baffling to me
L302[19:33:52] <lunar_sam> why would you
call more centralization "decentralization"
L303[19:33:56] <sapphicfettucine> >sapphicfettucine:
honestly web3 is so funny to me as a sysadmin. like. the scaling
issues are so terr…
<sapphicfettucine> >sapphicfettucine:
honestly web3 is so funny to me as a sysadmin. like. the scaling
issues are so terr…L304[19:33:56] <sapphicfettucine> you simply love to run
your services on top of a shared computer with less power than a
raspberry pi that you have to pay per operation
<sapphicfettucine> you simply love to run
your services on top of a shared computer with less power than a
raspberry pi that you have to pay per operationL305[19:34:11] <sapphicfettucine> >lunar_sam: why
would you call more centralization
"decentralization"
<sapphicfettucine> >lunar_sam: why
would you call more centralization
"decentralization"L306[19:34:11] <lunar_sam> like
L307[19:34:11] <sapphicfettucine> to convince people to
buy in with fake promises
<sapphicfettucine> to convince people to
buy in with fake promisesL308[19:34:20] <lunar_sam> i'm just
baffled by it
L309[19:34:26] <lunar_sam> and like
L310[19:34:28] <lunar_sam> people i
know
L311[19:34:34] <lunar_sam> who are
genuinely intelligent
L312[19:34:36] <sapphicfettucine> [herzog voice]
capitalism
<sapphicfettucine> [herzog voice]
capitalismL313[19:34:41] <lunar_sam> fell for this
grift
L314[19:34:57]
⇨ Joins: Wattana
(webchat@node-4i0.pool-101-109.dynamic.totinternet.net)
L315[19:35:02] <sapphicfettucine> yikes
<sapphicfettucine> yikesL316[19:35:04] <Wattana> Looks like I'm
stuck with IRC for a while
L317[19:35:10] <lunar_sam> absolutely
baffling
L318[19:35:19] <sapphicfettucine> i really don't get how
you learn anything about code and then look at web3 and say
"ah yes good"
<sapphicfettucine> i really don't get how
you learn anything about code and then look at web3 and say
"ah yes good"L319[19:35:27] <lunar_sam> anyways, i am
very anti-crypto
L320[19:35:30] <lunar_sam> rather
L321[19:35:32] <Wattana> You guys can
still use Discord?
L322[19:35:35] <lunar_sam>
anti-blockchain
L323[19:35:36] <sapphicfettucine> yes the thing i want in
tech is "having to spend more money to get into the
field"
<sapphicfettucine> yes the thing i want in
tech is "having to spend more money to get into the
field"L324[19:35:49] <sapphicfettucine> discord's sort of
working for me still
<sapphicfettucine> discord's sort of
working for me stillL325[19:35:59] <Wattana> It's completely
down for me
L326[19:36:00] <MGR> It's
working for my primary, but not for all of my alts
<MGR> It's
working for my primary, but not for all of my altsL327[19:36:15] <lunar_sam> i'm on XMPP so
i don't have any problems :P
L328[19:36:17] <Ocawesome101> works for me
<Ocawesome101> works for meL329[19:36:17] <Wattana> > alts
L330[19:36:17] <Wattana> sus
L331[19:36:18] <sapphicfettucine> partial outage i
guess
<sapphicfettucine> partial outage i
guessL332[19:36:29] <sapphicfettucine> can't believe ffxiv is
more stable than discord
<sapphicfettucine> can't believe ffxiv is
more stable than discordL333[19:36:37] <lunar_sam> anyways
L334[19:36:43] <Wattana> Thank god we
still have IRC as backup lol
L335[19:36:53] <Ocawesome101> partial outage indeed, as
of about ten minutes ago
<Ocawesome101> partial outage indeed, as
of about ten minutes agoL336[19:36:59] <sapphicfettucine> seems they have noticed
<https://discordstatus.com/incidents/rn7lfvwzvzvh>
<sapphicfettucine> seems they have noticed
<https://discordstatus.com/incidents/rn7lfvwzvzvh>L337[19:37:18] <ThePiGuy24> still out for
me
L338[19:37:29] <lunar_sam> something
something ace combat zero quote something something
L339[19:37:40] <sapphicfettucine> sometimes i remember
that their image resizing backend is opencv glued to golang and
that explains a lot for me
<sapphicfettucine> sometimes i remember
that their image resizing backend is opencv glued to golang and
that explains a lot for meL340[19:37:58] <lunar_sam> you know
L341[19:38:08] <lunar_sam> i wish luajit
had the fuckin
L342[19:38:10] <Wattana> Is it just me or
is Discord down for longer than usual fuckups? Or did I remember
wrong
L343[19:38:14] <lunar_sam> lua 5.3 syntax
for bitops
L344[19:38:16] <Ocawesome101> it
<Ocawesome101> itL345[19:38:20] <Ocawesome101> it's been down for uh
<Ocawesome101> it's been down for uhL346[19:38:23] <sapphicfettucine> gods same sam
<sapphicfettucine> gods same samL347[19:38:28] <Ocawesome101> quite a bit before
<Ocawesome101> quite a bit beforeL348[19:38:35] <Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: i'm pretty happy with how my proc macro
bindings ended up
<Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: i'm pretty happy with how my proc macro
bindings ended upL349[19:38:35] <Bob> yeah
dumping the JSON and generating methods from it was a pretty idea,
but i suck at writting proc macros
<Bob> yeah
dumping the JSON and generating methods from it was a pretty idea,
but i suck at writting proc macrosL350[19:38:42] <Bob>
always end up getting lectured by Yandros
<Bob>
always end up getting lectured by YandrosL351[19:38:43] <lunar_sam> Wattana: these
things typically take time because their infra is literal
lassagna
L352[19:38:53] <sapphicfettucine> but like
<sapphicfettucine> but likeL353[19:38:58] <sapphicfettucine> those frozen
lasagnas
<sapphicfettucine> those frozen
lasagnasL354[19:39:02] <Wattana> lunar: not
spaghetti?
L355[19:39:02] <sapphicfettucine> that fall apart
<sapphicfettucine> that fall apartL356[19:39:11] <lunar_sam> lasagna, that's
how you spell it
L357[19:39:12] <sapphicfettucine> that's an insult to
spaghetti wattana
<sapphicfettucine> that's an insult to
spaghetti wattanaL358[19:39:18] <Wattana> oh lol
L359[19:39:26] <lunar_sam> Wattana: it's
layers of pasta
L360[19:39:28] <lunar_sam> thus
L361[19:39:30] <lunar_sam> lasagna
L362[19:39:55] <lunar_sam> anyways
L363[19:39:57] <sapphicfettucine> "microservices are
the future! they are!" i shout as i slowly shrink into a corn
cob
<sapphicfettucine> "microservices are
the future! they are!" i shout as i slowly shrink into a corn
cobL364[19:40:00] <ThePiGuy24> lasaga
L365[19:40:46] <Ocawesome101> la saga discordia
<Ocawesome101> la saga discordiaL366[19:40:53] <lunar_sam> i remember
people trying to tell me that lua's shit and whatnot and my project
was pointless because it "already had been done" when i
got luajit<->byond interactions and then i get DM'd by
someone asking
L367[19:41:08] <lunar_sam> "yo, you
know much about lua vm internals?"
L368[19:41:23] <lunar_sam> _kindly_ fuck
off
L369[19:41:28] <Ocawesome101> heh
<Ocawesome101> hehL370[19:41:56] <sapphicfettucine> >lunar_sam:
"yo, you know much about lua vm internals?"
<sapphicfettucine> >lunar_sam:
"yo, you know much about lua vm internals?"L371[19:41:56] <sapphicfettucine> lua internals? made of
cheese
<sapphicfettucine> lua internals? made of
cheeseL372[19:42:06] <lunar_sam> heh
L373[19:42:12] <lunar_sam> but yeah it's
just like
L374[19:42:13] <lunar_sam> cmon
L375[19:42:25] <lunar_sam> maybe i'm
misremembering names, because, fuck, there's a lot
L376[19:42:29] <lunar_sam> anyways
L377[19:42:32] <lunar_sam> don't do SS13
dev
L378[19:42:35] <lunar_sam> not even
once
L379[19:42:35] <Forecaster> everything being made of food
is making me hungry
<Forecaster> everything being made of food
is making me hungryL380[19:43:02] <lunar_sam> also
L381[19:43:07] <lunar_sam> sam is working
on a cool thing
L382[19:43:15] <lunar_sam> currently only
for OC1
L383[19:43:25] <lunar_sam> but maybe soon
for OC2 and real computers :P
L384[19:43:42] <Amanda> https://paste.pc-logix.com/ogesadepoz.cpp <--
behold! import.lua (with some less features) in C++
L385[19:43:52] <Forecaster> real computers don't exist,
there is only OC
<Forecaster> real computers don't exist,
there is only OCL386[19:43:54] <Bob> i'll
yoink the stty interop
<Bob> i'll
yoink the stty interopL387[19:44:08] <Wattana> hey Ocawesome
what does the count argument for TTY read actually mean? I've been
trying to make sense of it and I only know that it effects how many
char per read
L388[19:44:19] <lunar_sam> tsukinet
soon
L389[19:44:40] <Ocawesome101> Wattana: which bit
<Ocawesome101> Wattana: which bitL390[19:44:46] <Amanda> Added operators to
the device class to get methods by name, and an call operator on
the method operator to invoke them
L391[19:44:49] <Ocawesome101> the scheme level or the
actual tty code level?
<Ocawesome101> the scheme level or the
actual tty code level?L392[19:45:03] <Wattana> userland TTY
r/w
L393[19:45:13] <Wattana> via syscall
L394[19:45:39] <Ocawesome101> that can be any format that
lua's `io.read` accepts
<Ocawesome101> that can be any format that
lua's `io.read` acceptsL395[19:45:49] <Ocawesome101> since it's wrapped in a
buffer
<Ocawesome101> since it's wrapped in a
bufferL396[19:46:51] <Ocawesome101> with or without an
`*`
<Ocawesome101> with or without an
`*`L397[19:47:04] <Ocawesome101> i encourage not using a
`*`, in fact
<Ocawesome101> i encourage not using a
`*`, in factL398[19:47:09] <Wattana> Yeah but any
count values more than 1 is kind of funky
L399[19:47:16] <Wattana> Like, n chars per
read
L400[19:47:23] <Ocawesome101> mhm?
<Ocawesome101> mhm?L401[19:47:23] <Wattana> But the behavior
I've seen is kind of inconsistent.
L402[19:47:24] <Ocawesome101> how so?
<Ocawesome101> how so?L403[19:48:19] <Ocawesome101> inconsistent in what
way?
<Ocawesome101> inconsistent in what
way?L404[19:48:30] <Wattana> 1 seems to be
best for reading user input
L405[19:48:50] <ThePiGuy24> ah there we
go, finally back for me
L406[19:48:53] <Ocawesome101> i should think `l` would be
best there
<Ocawesome101> i should think `l` would be
best thereL407[19:49:00] <Wattana> huh lemme
see
L408[19:49:20] <Wattana> oh
L409[19:49:38] <Ocawesome101> it is line-buffered, so you
can only read up to the last newline in the read buffer
<Ocawesome101> it is line-buffered, so you
can only read up to the last newline in the read bufferL410[19:49:44] <Wattana> then what the
hell does numeric value for count do actually do other than being
funky when higher than 1?
L411[19:49:58] <Ocawesome101> if you need to read input
in chunks it's useful
<Ocawesome101> if you need to read input
in chunks it's usefulL412[19:50:54] <Wattana>
ayyyy discord's back
<Wattana>
ayyyy discord's backL413[19:50:57] <Ocawesome101> yep
<Ocawesome101> yepL414[19:51:13] <Wattana>
and i'm more voluntarily sleep deprived than ever lmao
<Wattana>
and i'm more voluntarily sleep deprived than ever lmaoL415[19:51:26] <Ocawesome101> heh
<Ocawesome101> hehL416[19:51:49] <Ocawesome101> what behavior are you
observing with passing counts higher than 1? it should just return
the current line in chunks of that size
<Ocawesome101> what behavior are you
observing with passing counts higher than 1? it should just return
the current line in chunks of that sizeL418[19:52:21] <Wattana>
it's.... complicated
<Wattana>
it's.... complicatedL419[19:52:52] <Wattana>
Inputs with less size than a chunk seems to sometimes not
return
<Wattana>
Inputs with less size than a chunk seems to sometimes not
returnL420[19:53:03] <Wattana>
like it's infinitely taking in inputs
<Wattana>
like it's infinitely taking in inputsL421[19:53:16] <Ocawesome101> hmm, you're right
<Ocawesome101> hmm, you're rightL422[19:53:26] <Ocawesome101> and i know exactly what's
causing that
<Ocawesome101> and i know exactly what's
causing thatL423[19:53:48] <Wattana> I
think this was in Cynosure 1 too, right?
<Wattana> I
think this was in Cynosure 1 too, right?L424[19:53:57] <Ocawesome101> might've been
<Ocawesome101> might've beenL425[19:54:16] <Wattana>
Since I remember seeing similar behavior with C1's TTY at least in
my ported ver for OCLinux
<Wattana>
Since I remember seeing similar behavior with C1's TTY at least in
my ported ver for OCLinuxL426[19:54:33] <Ocawesome101> yeah i think cynosure 1 had
this too
<Ocawesome101> yeah i think cynosure 1 had
this tooL427[19:54:37] <Ocawesome101> wasn't a case i ever tested
lol
<Ocawesome101> wasn't a case i ever tested
lolL428[19:54:44] <Ocawesome101> should be fixed now
<Ocawesome101> should be fixed nowL429[19:55:28] <CompanionCube> lunar_sam:
inb4 'yes i know too much about lua vm imternals'
L430[19:56:19] <lunar_sam> i wish i
understood the lua vm well enough
L431[19:56:20] <CompanionCube> never mind
all the other voodoo implied in the proje.
L432[20:01:24] ⇦
Quits: Wattana
(webchat@node-4i0.pool-101-109.dynamic.totinternet.net) (Quit:
webchat.esper.net)
L433[20:03:07] <Amanda> Wheee, arguments
work now! Kinda. You have to manually pass picojson::value's --
time to do some metaprogramming to make it so stuff can be
serialised from C/C++ objects
L434[20:03:24] <Amanda>
s/objects/types/
L435[20:03:24] <MichiBot> <Amanda>
Wheee, arguments work now! Kinda. You have to manually pass
picojson::value's -- time to do some metaprogramming to make it so
stuff can be serialised from C/C++ types
L436[20:03:52] <Bob> we
have the HLAPI sure, but what about going lower level even, what
about MMIO ?
<Bob> we
have the HLAPI sure, but what about going lower level even, what
about MMIO ?L437[20:27:33] <Amanda> Pretty sure MMIO
means hacking on the kernel, which is a no from me, nya
L438[20:29:21] <Bob> i
dont know, maybe its more `/dev` handles :thonk
<Bob> i
dont know, maybe its more `/dev` handles :thonkL439[20:30:02] <CompanionCube> still
*some* kernel hacking to expose the right RAM regions as /dev nodes
or whatecer
L440[20:30:25] <Bob> just
write to `/dev/mem` duh
<Bob> just
write to `/dev/mem` duhL441[20:31:00] <Bob>
<https://github.com/ben0x539/totally-safe-transmute/blob/master/src/lib.rs>
<Bob>
<https://github.com/ben0x539/totally-safe-transmute/blob/master/src/lib.rs>L442[20:31:05] <CompanionCube> ew
/dev/mem, also you probably want to be able to do it as
non-root
L443[20:31:09] ⇦
Quits: m1cr0man (~m1cr0man@2a01:4f8:191:503f::1) (Quit:
G'luck)
L444[20:31:12] <sapphicfettucine> i love
totally-safe-transmute so much
<sapphicfettucine> i love
totally-safe-transmute so muchL445[20:31:25]
⇨ Joins: m1cr0man
(~m1cr0man@2a01:4f8:191:503f::1)
L446[20:31:27] <Bob> we
love unix
<Bob> we
love unixL447[20:34:04] <Bob> yeah
no my heart hurts, ill look at this more tommorow
<Bob> yeah
no my heart hurts, ill look at this more tommorowL448[20:34:27] <Bob> i
have a performance rating of 1 LoC/day
<Bob> i
have a performance rating of 1 LoC/dayL449[20:36:46] <Amanda> \o/ No more
manually passing in picojson::array's or picojson::value's:
https://paste.pc-logix.com/jujuxewuco.cpp
L450[20:48:55] <sapphicfettucine> that's really clean,
hell yea
<sapphicfettucine> that's really clean,
hell yeaL451[20:50:44] <Amanda> I _think_ this
might be workable back to C++11 too, if I removed some calls I do
which are added in C++20 (map.contains)
L452[20:56:58] <Amanda> you still only can
get a picojson::value out as a result, but I'm low on spoons so
that may just have to be the case for now
L453[20:57:27] <Sangar>
uh, very cool
<Sangar>
uh, very coolL454[20:59:18] <Amanda> Code's up here:
https://git.camnet.site/gitweb/?p=amandac/mc/oc2/cxx-fuckery.git;a=summary
L455[20:59:33] <Amanda> Specifically:
console.firebase.google.com/u/0/
L456[20:59:45] <sapphicfettucine> sometimes i go to
change my datapack i use for testing and just
<sapphicfettucine> sometimes i go to
change my datapack i use for testing and justL457[20:59:45] <Amanda> ... where the fuck
did you get that from, clipboard?
L458[20:59:52] <Amanda> https://git.camnet.site/gitweb/?p=amandac/mc/oc2/cxx-fuckery.git;a=tree;f=hlapi;h=108b1d80a40d9bdee80680407b04d680e0ee4004;hb=HEAD
L459[20:59:56] <sapphicfettucine> remember i have a 10MB
h264 executable in here
<sapphicfettucine> remember i have a 10MB
h264 executable in hereL460[21:01:29] <Bob>
>Amanda: ... where the fuck did you get that from,
clipboard?
<Bob>
>Amanda: ... where the fuck did you get that from,
clipboard?L461[21:01:29] <Bob> i
think ill settle with termios too on the Rusty side
<Bob> i
think ill settle with termios too on the Rusty sideL462[21:09:36] <Amanda> The bus-list test
is now only ~57KB with the hlapi stuff extracted into a seperate
binary
L463[21:09:43] <Amanda> * shared
library
L464[21:10:58] <Amanda> libhlapi.so
however is a bit heavier than compiling it into the binary,
strangely
L465[21:13:37] <sapphicfettucine> unused code
optimizations?
<sapphicfettucine> unused code
optimizations?L466[21:15:25] <Amanda> oh right! I was
going to add -Os to the flags I compile with
L467[21:15:51] <Bob> i use
-O3, theres not a big difference
<Bob> i use
-O3, theres not a big differenceL468[21:15:54] <Amanda> Now bus-list test
is 15KB
L469[21:16:04] <Bob> if i
strip std and serde, the difference is massive
<Bob> if i
strip std and serde, the difference is massiveL470[21:16:09] <Amanda> -Os is
"optimise for size"
L471[21:16:16] <Amanda> not
performance
L472[21:17:23] <Bob> yeah
i know
<Bob> yeah
i knowL473[21:19:04] <sapphicfettucine> my miku-rpc import test
is coming in at 88kb
<sapphicfettucine> my miku-rpc import test
is coming in at 88kbL474[21:19:40] <sapphicfettucine> probably could be
smaller by stripping out the bufreader but eh
<sapphicfettucine> probably could be
smaller by stripping out the bufreader but ehL475[21:19:52] <Amanda> libhlapi.so went
from 300+KB to 64 with -Os
L476[21:19:59] <sapphicfettucine> hell yea
<sapphicfettucine> hell yeaL477[21:22:15] <CompanionCube> w00t
L478[21:22:38] <sapphicfettucine> here's my miku-rpc
import.lua copycat
<sapphicfettucine> here's my miku-rpc
import.lua copycatL480[21:23:42] <Ocawesome101> hm
<Ocawesome101> hmL481[21:24:15] <Ocawesome101> looking at the risc-v isa
it's actually small enough one person can memorize the whole
thing
<Ocawesome101> looking at the risc-v isa
it's actually small enough one person can memorize the whole
thingL482[21:24:58] <CompanionCube> depends on
the extensions, surely?
L483[21:25:25] <sapphicfettucine> oh, hey, the
cryptography ISE was ratified
<sapphicfettucine> oh, hey, the
cryptography ISE was ratifiedL484[21:27:58] <Ocawesome101> CompanionCube: i'm looking
at https://github.com/jameslzhu/riscv-card/blob/master/riscv-card.pdf
<Ocawesome101> CompanionCube: i'm looking
at https://github.com/jameslzhu/riscv-card/blob/master/riscv-card.pdfL485[21:28:09] <Ocawesome101> in any case it's still a
hell of a lot better than x86
<Ocawesome101> in any case it's still a
hell of a lot better than x86L486[21:28:43] <sapphicfettucine> tbf what isn't
<sapphicfettucine> tbf what isn'tL487[21:29:08] <Ocawesome101> x86_64, probably?
<Ocawesome101> x86_64, probably?L488[21:30:41] <CompanionCube> wouldn't it
be the other way around
L489[21:30:43] <sapphicfettucine> it'd be nice to have
the AES acceleration instructions in sedna.. maybe i'll take a look
at implementing it sometime
<sapphicfettucine> it'd be nice to have
the AES acceleration instructions in sedna.. maybe i'll take a look
at implementing it sometimeL490[21:31:08] <CompanionCube> x86_64
probably has gains from some legacy cleanup
L491[21:34:43] <Ocawesome101> actually that might be
true
<Ocawesome101> actually that might be
trueL492[21:39:26] <dequbed> Amanda: Yay for
generic code and dynamic dispatch :P
L493[21:40:25] <dequbed> CompanionCube:
Yeah, AMD64 has dropped *a lot* of bad legacy things.
L494[21:50:39] <The
Patmann> >sapphicfettucine: oh, hey, the cryptography ISE
was ratified
<The
Patmann> >sapphicfettucine: oh, hey, the cryptography ISE
was ratifiedL495[21:50:39] <The
Patmann> What's that?
<The
Patmann> What's that?L496[21:51:19] <sapphicfettucine> instruction set
extension - a set of additional instructions to the RISC-V
specification
<sapphicfettucine> instruction set
extension - a set of additional instructions to the RISC-V
specificationL497[21:51:45] <The
Patmann> Ah, neat!
<The
Patmann> Ah, neat!L498[21:51:56] <sapphicfettucine> these specifically deal
with cryptography, so you can accelerate things like SHA256 hashing
or AES encryption/decryption
<sapphicfettucine> these specifically deal
with cryptography, so you can accelerate things like SHA256 hashing
or AES encryption/decryptionL499[21:52:18] <sapphicfettucine> they're fairly standard
for x86 but seem to have only been ratified for risc-v late last
year
<sapphicfettucine> they're fairly standard
for x86 but seem to have only been ratified for risc-v late last
yearL500[22:00:11] <dequbed> "Fairly
Standard" AES-NI is from 2008 :P
L501[22:00:39] <sapphicfettucine> that's why i said
fairly :p
<sapphicfettucine> that's why i said
fairly :pL502[22:00:57] <dequbed> That's like a
toddler in ISA terms! :P
L503[22:02:00] *
CompanionCube wonders how common non-aesni cpus are
atm
L504[22:03:21] <dequbed> All non-embedded
AMD and Intel have it IIRC. I think the only missing ones are
oddballs like Gaming consoles and such
L505[22:03:48] <Kilobyte> my first laptop
didn't have AES-NI
L506[22:04:03] <Kilobyte> i got that
around 2010-2012 i believe
L507[22:05:03] <sapphicfettucine> seems to have been
westmere up for intel
<sapphicfettucine> seems to have been
westmere up for intelL508[22:06:01] <Kilobyte> that one had an
AMD E-350 btw
L509[22:47:08] <sapphicfettucine> ayy
<sapphicfettucine> ayyL510[22:47:40] <sapphicfettucine> my lil' rust
implementation of import is ~70s faster than import.lua :D
<sapphicfettucine> my lil' rust
implementation of import is ~70s faster than import.lua :DL511[22:48:52] <Ocawesome101> nice
<Ocawesome101> niceL512[22:49:38] <Ocawesome101> how does `ld-linux` do
dynamic library caching? i can't find anything containing the
actual details of it on the internet
<Ocawesome101> how does `ld-linux` do
dynamic library caching? i can't find anything containing the
actual details of it on the internetL513[22:50:48] <Kilobyte> well linux
caches all open files
L514[22:51:09] <Kilobyte> and ld memory
maps librarys
L515[22:52:05] <Ocawesome101> sure. and how does it
maintain that list/cache across multiple executions? (does it do
that at all?)
<Ocawesome101> sure. and how does it
maintain that list/cache across multiple executions? (does it do
that at all?)L516[22:52:19] <Amanda> well, I have
response decoding as well now, sadly it requires a less-clean call
UX: https://git.camnet.site/gitweb/?p=amandac/mc/oc2/cxx-fuckery.git;a=blob;f=hlapi/tests/invoke-import.cc;h=2af598ef37b5871bf4f00c38b6c751b5b913898e;hb=HEAD#l34
L517[22:54:10] <Kilobyte> @Ocawesome101:
to my knowledge it doesn't need any additional caching, simply by
how memory mapping works. All loaded binaries share the same
physical memory pages anyways
L518[22:54:22] <Kilobyte> i am definitely
no expert on this topic though
L519[22:54:25] <Ocawesome101> hm, interesting
<Ocawesome101> hm, interestingL520[22:54:49] <Kilobyte> i'm a sysadmin,
not a kernel developer :P
L521[22:54:50] <Ocawesome101> yeah, there's the
`MAP_SHARED` flag
<Ocawesome101> yeah, there's the
`MAP_SHARED` flagL522[22:55:03] <Ocawesome101> i think that is indeed
it
<Ocawesome101> i think that is indeed
itL523[22:55:04] <Ocawesome101> thanks
<Ocawesome101> thanksL524[22:57:39]
⇨ Joins: TPG24
(~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-122-174.as13285.net)
L525[22:59:09] ⇦
Quits: ThePiGuy24 (~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-122-174.as13285.net) (Ping
timeout: 192 seconds)
L526[23:15:46] <Kristopher38> >Forecaster: real
computers don't exist, there is only OC
<Kristopher38> >Forecaster: real
computers don't exist, there is only OCL527[23:15:46] <Kristopher38> god i wish
<Kristopher38> god i wishL528[23:17:31] <Amanda> Now with
strongly-typed results for all the file_import_export calls:
https://git.camnet.site/gitweb/?p=amandac/mc/oc2/cxx-fuckery.git;a=blob;f=hlapi/tests/invoke-import.cc;hb=HEAD
L529[23:18:00] <Amanda> Decided to
rejigger the from_json mechanisms to be wrapped by
std::optional
L530[23:18:38] <Amanda> and none of this
required a recompile of libhlapi.so which I consider a win
L531[23:18:55] <Amanda> fancy C++ stuff
ontop of the static ABI
L532[23:23:33] <ThePiGuy24> goddamnit pacman why you
overwrite my xterm configs
<ThePiGuy24> goddamnit pacman why you
overwrite my xterm configsL533[23:24:10] <ThePiGuy24> serves me right for just
modifying the system wide ones rather than user specific ones, but
goddamn you pacman
<ThePiGuy24> serves me right for just
modifying the system wide ones rather than user specific ones, but
goddamn you pacmanL534[23:24:15] <Corded> *
<ThePiGuy24> shakes fist
L535[23:35:56] ⇦
Quits: immibis
(~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-138-014.89.204.138.pool.telefonica.de)
(Remote host closed the connection)
L536[23:36:19]
⇨ Joins: immibis
(~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-138-014.89.204.138.pool.telefonica.de)
L537[23:59:17] ⇦
Quits: immibis
(~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-138-014.89.204.138.pool.telefonica.de)
(Remote host closed the connection)
L538[23:59:26]
⇨ Joins: caden
(~caden@c-73-11-191-191.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
L539[23:59:31] <caden> hello