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<Bob>
@inkoate, here, sorry for the delay, head hurt, but here's
basically what i use instead of `cross` <https://github.com/big-lip-bob/RustOC2Template>
<Bob>
@inkoate, here, sorry for the delay, head hurt, but here's
basically what i use instead of `cross` <https://github.com/big-lip-bob/RustOC2Template>L4[00:18:36] <Amanda> %splash Inari with
mutable pussplum potion
L5[00:18:37] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable
pussplum potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a
platinum turtle boy until Sozin's Comet returns.
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L16[01:08:09] <inkoate> I
wonder if we can move to an oc2 channel or something? There's a lot
of random chat and bit spam in here that is making it hard to pick
out the conversations.
<inkoate> I
wonder if we can move to an oc2 channel or something? There's a lot
of random chat and bit spam in here that is making it hard to pick
out the conversations.L17[01:08:23] <inkoate> I
wonder if we can move to an oc2 channel or something? There's a lot
of random chat and bot spam in here that is making it hard to pick
out the conversations. [Edited]
<inkoate> I
wonder if we can move to an oc2 channel or something? There's a lot
of random chat and bot spam in here that is making it hard to pick
out the conversations. [Edited]L18[01:08:58] <Kilobyte> you are hopefully
aware that this channel is bridged to IRC? :P
L19[01:09:12] <dequbed> And this *is* the
OC2 channel
L20[01:09:52] <Michiyo>
And just in case you want admin input. No.
<Michiyo>
And just in case you want admin input. No.L21[01:09:57] <dequbed> It's the OC1, OC2
and Computronics channel, as long as you off-topic about it
:P
L22[01:10:46] <Bob> nah
you guys are bot spam
<Bob> nah
you guys are bot spamL23[01:10:50] <inkoate>
Yes, I'm aware that it's bridged to irc.
<inkoate>
Yes, I'm aware that it's bridged to irc.L24[01:11:11] <inkoate>
You're not the bot spam I was referring to. 😂
<inkoate>
You're not the bot spam I was referring to. 😂L25[01:11:35] <dequbed> @inkoate you're new
here, aren't you? This used to be *much* worse. Like *so much
worse* :)
L26[01:11:48] <dequbed> only a little bit
/s, and only the first part :P
L27[01:12:24] <inkoate>
Lol. New? I suppose? I'm in way too many discords, I'm not sure
when I joined this onm,.
<inkoate>
Lol. New? I suppose? I'm in way too many discords, I'm not sure
when I joined this onm,.L28[01:12:26] <inkoate>
Lol. New? I suppose? I'm in way too many discords, I'm not sure
when I joined this one. [Edited]
<inkoate>
Lol. New? I suppose? I'm in way too many discords, I'm not sure
when I joined this one. [Edited]L29[01:12:44] <Kilobyte> ah, that was the
time before the discord side existed :P
L30[01:12:54] <inkoate>
>Michiyo: And just in case you want admin input. No.
<inkoate>
>Michiyo: And just in case you want admin input. No.L31[01:12:54] <inkoate>
Uh, thanks I guess?
<inkoate>
Uh, thanks I guess?L32[01:13:01] <Michiyo>
No problem!
<Michiyo>
No problem!L33[01:13:14] <Bob> i was
here a few years ago but still not as early as no discord
side
<Bob> i was
here a few years ago but still not as early as no discord
sideL34[01:13:15] <Kilobyte> like around
2014-2016
L35[01:13:16] <dequbed> Ah see this channel
is ... a *touch* older than Discord. The company that is :P
L36[01:13:31] <jackie> I'd love to get rid
of discord as a whole. not just my account. just the whole
thing.
L37[01:13:37] <Bob> same
tbh
<Bob> same
tbhL38[01:13:40] <Ocawesome101> oh yeah discord's only been
a thing since 2015 or so, hasn't it
<Ocawesome101> oh yeah discord's only been
a thing since 2015 or so, hasn't itL39[01:13:41] <dequbed> Oh yes please, that
would be lovely
L40[01:14:14] <dequbed> Can I burn it? :)
*gets out the gasoline*
L41[01:14:17] <Kilobyte> i have been a
member of this channel for at least 7 years
L42[01:14:22] <inkoate>
Hah, you all seem to think that I am some newbie that doesn't know
what IRC is or how its relevant to discord.
<inkoate>
Hah, you all seem to think that I am some newbie that doesn't know
what IRC is or how its relevant to discord.L43[01:14:23] <Kilobyte> just checked
L44[01:14:34] <inkoate>
I've been using IRC since 1997. 😄
<inkoate>
I've been using IRC since 1997. 😄L45[01:14:37] <Kilobyte> actually i have
been at least since 2014
L46[01:14:43] <inkoate>
Maybe 96, not sure.
<inkoate>
Maybe 96, not sure.L47[01:14:45] <dequbed> @inkoate lol no we
don't. Just a newbie to *this* particular corner of the internet
with its very own rules
L48[01:14:54] <Kilobyte> i could now check
my logs, but cba
L49[01:14:55] <Amanda> dequbed: just make
sure not to leave any evidence, I'm _not_ rewriting the timeline
again to frame an innocent person for your arson!
L50[01:14:59] <Ocawesome101> i've been here since july
of 2019
<Ocawesome101> i've been here since july
of 2019L51[01:15:52] <inkoate>
(Is one of the rules "there shalt be no further
channels"? :D)
<inkoate>
(Is one of the rules "there shalt be no further
channels"? :D)L52[01:15:54] <Ocawesome101> hmmm
<Ocawesome101> hmmmL53[01:16:14] <dequbed> @inkoate no but
"Discord is an afterthought" is
L54[01:16:17] <Michiyo>
Yes
<Michiyo>
YesL55[01:17:02] <Amanda> %choose lunar
cultivation or venesuan catgirls
L56[01:17:02] <MichiBot> Amanda: My
grandfather always told me that "venesuan catgirls" is
the way to go!
L57[01:17:03] <Michiyo>
Tell ya what. I'll make #oc2, then I'll link it to the same OC IRC
channel. Then you'll get even more spam :P
<Michiyo>
Tell ya what. I'll make #oc2, then I'll link it to the same OC IRC
channel. Then you'll get even more spam :PL58[01:17:05] <Ocawesome101> my twelve-year-old self
was... less sane, i think
<Ocawesome101> my twelve-year-old self
was... less sane, i thinkL59[01:17:42] <Kilobyte> @Michiyo i like
that idea, mainly because i don't even need to join another
channel
L60[01:17:53] <jackie> Michiyo: I like that
idea xD
L61[01:17:56] <Hawk777> Uh… if you *do*
decide to make another Discord channel for OC2, why wouldn’t you
just also make another IRC channel for it?
L62[01:17:59] <Ocawesome101> yes that would be
wonderful
<Ocawesome101> yes that would be
wonderfulL63[01:18:07] <dequbed> @Ocawesome101 I
always forget that you're like 14.
L64[01:18:09] <Ocawesome101> Hawk777: that's the
joke
<Ocawesome101> Hawk777: that's the
jokeL65[01:18:16] <Ocawesome101> dequbed: 15, actually
<Ocawesome101> dequbed: 15, actuallyL66[01:18:23] <dequbed> As I said.
L67[01:18:24] <Hawk777> Ah. Only been kinda
half paying attention. Never mind me then.
L68[01:18:25] <jackie> Hawk777: because it
would be apsolutely pointless?
L69[01:18:39] <Ocawesome101> how old would you guess i
am, had i not mentioned it?
<Ocawesome101> how old would you guess i
am, had i not mentioned it?L70[01:18:44] <Kilobyte> i regularly forget
how old i am
L71[01:18:45] <Hawk777> Well, it would be
less pointless if it ended up not being so full of off-topic
chatter and people tonking.
L72[01:18:53] <Amanda> I think I turn 31
this year?
L73[01:19:00] <Hawk777> Would make it
easier to sort the OC2 conversation from the rest.
L74[01:19:01] <Amanda> %math 2022 -
1991
L75[01:19:01] <MichiBot> 2022 - 1991 =>
31
L76[01:19:10] <dequbed> I always think
you're like ... an adult. Take it as a compliment, you're way less
childish than what I'm used to
L77[01:19:11] <Kilobyte> i believe 26 in a
month or so
L78[01:19:12] <Amanda> Yes. In <1month I
turn 31
L79[01:19:15] <jackie> Hawk777: the channel
would be dead.
L80[01:20:02] <Amanda> %choose leave the
laptop on to idly gather essense or put the laptop away while
halucinating
L81[01:20:02] <MichiBot> Amanda: I
received a message from future you, said to go with "put the
laptop away while halucinating".
L82[01:20:28] <Amanda> Future me must have
finally set up the server with my shitty little pack, she's trying
to stifle my progress!
L83[01:20:30] <Ocawesome101> dequbed: i've never gone to
a brick-and-mortar school, which is probably where that comes from
:P
<Ocawesome101> dequbed: i've never gone to
a brick-and-mortar school, which is probably where that comes from
:PL84[01:20:42] <dequbed> I ... doubt
that.
L85[01:20:47] <Amanda> I shall let
her
L86[01:20:51] <Hawk777> Really? Seems to me
there was an OC2-relevant message just an hour ago, the Rust
template link.
L87[01:21:00] *
Amanda curls up around Elfi, reads to her about venesuian
catgirls
L88[01:21:00] <Bob> that
was me
<Bob> that
was meL89[01:21:42] <Hawk777> Yep, that’s what
I’m referring to.
L90[01:23:30] <Ocawesome101> i blame a lot of the
immaturity of public schoolers on their peers also being idiots,
generally
<Ocawesome101> i blame a lot of the
immaturity of public schoolers on their peers also being idiots,
generallyL91[01:23:47] <Ocawesome101> most of the homeschoolers i
interact with are... saner might not be the correct word
<Ocawesome101> most of the homeschoolers i
interact with are... saner might not be the correct wordL92[01:24:21] <dequbed> Yeah I'd say
"more insane" and "less well educated" may be
more fitting but that is the European in me speaking :P
L93[01:24:41] <Bob>
speaking of school, i despise school
<Bob>
speaking of school, i despise schoolL94[01:25:51] <Ocawesome101> i'm homeschooled at least
in part because we live in the middle of nowhere
<Ocawesome101> i'm homeschooled at least
in part because we live in the middle of nowhereL95[01:26:40] <dequbed> I mean it depends
on the scale of "middle of nowhere" but even that is not
a reason to do homeschooling in europe :P
L96[01:26:44] <jackie> imo if there's even
a remote possibility to go to a real school it's worth it
L97[01:27:00] <Kilobyte> european bias
:P
L98[01:27:01] <dequbed> debateable, it's
the US
L99[01:27:06] <Bob> eh,
if you're smart, you can work out most of everything yourself
<Bob> eh,
if you're smart, you can work out most of everything yourselfL100[01:27:19] <dequbed> ... no.
L101[01:27:25] <dequbed> That's not how
that works.
L102[01:28:19] <jackie> <European
Bias> I know kids that are homeschooled here in Vienna and
compared to same aged kids they have nowhere near the social skills
</European Bias>
L103[01:28:19] <Bob> well,
i sleep trough most classes and do just fine
<Bob> well,
i sleep trough most classes and do just fineL104[01:28:51] <jackie> The things you
learn in class are only a small part of what you learn in school
(again: at least here in europe)
L105[01:29:12] <dequbed> @Bob thats more
an comment on the education system where you live than towards your
individiual skill *or* the ability of autodidactic learning to be
comparable to guided learning.
L106[01:32:09] <Ocawesome101> i will readily admit that
my social skills are probably a little worse - though we do go
engage with other people fairly regularly
<Ocawesome101> i will readily admit that
my social skills are probably a little worse - though we do go
engage with other people fairly regularlyL107[01:32:49] <Ocawesome101> imo the increased schedule
flexibility and higher level of saneness is mostly worth it
<Ocawesome101> imo the increased schedule
flexibility and higher level of saneness is mostly worth itL108[01:33:03] <Ocawesome101> also our local school isn't
particularly great from what i understand
<Ocawesome101> also our local school isn't
particularly great from what i understandL109[01:34:30] <dequbed> That's only part
of it. The biggest issue is that homeschooling can not hope to
achieve the same level of skill transfer as a centralized education
by proper pedagogues. Not saying that your local school *would*
provided that, again talking from an european standpoint against
the *concept* of homeschooling
L110[01:35:47] *
CompanionCube can't remember if it's 2014 or 2015 when he joined
this channel
L111[01:36:16] <dequbed> But the big issue
is that it can never hope to confront you with different cultures
to broaden you horizon simply because the setup actively filters
against exactly that.
L112[01:36:30] <CompanionCube>
%oclogs
L113[01:36:30] <MichiBot> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/?dir=logs/%23oc
L114[01:36:40] <jackie> CompanionCube:
https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/ssstats/oc/user.php?nick=CompanionCube
looks like 14
L115[01:37:02] <Kilobyte> the logs might
not go earlier than 2014
L116[01:37:15] <jackie> oh right
L117[01:37:43] <CompanionCube> channel's
not older than 2014 anyway
L118[01:37:53] <Kilobyte> that'd explain
it :D
L119[01:37:55] <CompanionCube> Channel
created on Thu, 23 Jan 2014
L120[01:38:20] <CompanionCube> also lol
rip my activity
L121[01:38:53] <Kilobyte> oups,
"First seen on Jan 24, 2014"
L122[01:39:05] <Kilobyte> i may have
joined on the second day
L123[01:40:05] <Bob> i'm
here since 2019 mostly
<Bob> i'm
here since 2019 mostlyL124[01:40:38] <Bob>
joined at 2/10/2018
<Bob>
joined at 2/10/2018L125[01:41:07] <Bob> back
when i was cringe 😔
<Bob> back
when i was cringe 😔L126[01:41:37] <CompanionCube> anyway,
given that date i was still surprisingly older than ocawesome101,
huh
L127[01:42:01] <Bob> i'm
older too
<Bob> i'm
older tooL128[01:42:07] <Ocawesome101> dequbed: fair enough. i do
go to an online public school now.
<Ocawesome101> dequbed: fair enough. i do
go to an online public school now.L129[01:43:01] <CompanionCube> 2014-1998
> 15
L130[01:43:44] *
CompanionCube doesn't have a specific 'joined IRC' date, but it was
2009/2010 when a minecraft server got me into it :p
L131[01:44:46] <CompanionCube> i doubt
public logs of the relevant channels exist for that period.
L132[01:47:14] <dequbed> One day somebody
will do an Internet historian on this weird corner of the internet
and it'll be glorious.
L133[01:47:25] <CompanionCube> we're not
that relevant
L134[01:48:45] <dequbed> Not #oc in
particular I mean like Espernet and the modding scene
L135[01:51:12] <dequbed> Also … did
anybody ever hear anything from Wobbo? I miss that guy :(
L136[01:51:14] <CompanionCube> iirc
#minecraft is deader than deadf, lol
L137[01:51:59] <CompanionCube> 146 people,
presently, dunno how active
L138[01:54:17] <Michiyo> I
started messing around with IRC in like '92/93
<Michiyo> I
started messing around with IRC in like '92/93L139[01:54:20] <Michiyo> I
was like...7
<Michiyo> I
was like...7L140[01:55:16] <jackie> I was -4 years
back then :P
L141[01:55:22] <Michiyo>
Oof.
<Michiyo>
Oof.L142[01:55:54] <Kilobyte> for me that was
probably around 2011?
L143[01:55:56] <Michiyo> I
know I'm on the... upper end of age here, I'm not the oldest but
close :P
<Michiyo> I
know I'm on the... upper end of age here, I'm not the oldest but
close :PL144[01:56:21] <jackie> I think my first
contact to irc was when I was around 8 or 9 years old so 2005-6?
But I don't recall that exact date
L145[01:56:42] <dequbed> Oh god
discussions about RedPower2 in 2014 were not even anachronistic
yet. It's only been a year since 1.5 came out which RP2 wasn't
going to be ported to.
L146[01:56:58] <jackie> I know that I
started to code stuff in 2009 (Atmel AVR in C ^^)
L147[01:58:05] <Kilobyte> my first contact
was earlier, but actually becoming active was sometime in
2012
L148[02:00:09] <dequbed> god programming
was early for me. My aunt gave me my first book when I was 8 or so
but it took me a year to really get the first code that I'd call
"code"
L149[02:00:16] *
CompanionCube randomly wonders how long it took before the bukkit
DMCA thing stopped impacting spigot
L150[02:00:32] <dequbed> Maybe C++ *wasnt*
the best language to start with ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L151[02:00:59] <Ocawesome101> i think i started messing
with programming 4 or 5 years ago
<Ocawesome101> i think i started messing
with programming 4 or 5 years agoL152[02:01:37] <Kilobyte> my first
experience was at around 9-10 on a small black/white tv connected
to a philips MSX computer
L153[02:02:07] <Kilobyte> actual programs
at around 12 in VB.NET
L154[02:02:11] <Kilobyte> i believe
L155[02:02:39] <CompanionCube> huh i
apparently forgot that mojang ended up actually owning bukkit
L156[02:02:58] <Bob>
>Ocawesome101: i think i started messing with programming 4 or 5
years ago
<Bob>
>Ocawesome101: i think i started messing with programming 4 or 5
years agoL157[02:02:58] <Bob> yeah
same, 5 years ago is when i started messing with stuff
<Bob> yeah
same, 5 years ago is when i started messing with stuffL158[02:19:25]
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L160[02:24:37] <dequbed> %inari
L161[02:24:37] <MichiBot> http://i.imgur.com/XoYgHyi.gif
L162[02:26:45] <jackie> Or to indirectly
quote Inari: https://chaosfield.at/s/lewd.png (iirc
she threw these bottles at people at BTM ^^)
L163[02:28:00] <Kilobyte> no we are
definitely not digging in old chat archives right now
L164[02:28:49] <dequbed> What, us being
nostalic for times when we had time and energy and space to spend
the day playing modded minecraft when things were easier (for us)?
Preposterous!
L165[02:30:31] <Amanda> I joined IRC in
2005 or so as well, on efnet, for a second life teen grid
channel
L166[02:30:50] <Amanda> Back when ll
actually had a teen grid
L167[02:33:37] <Amanda> I used pidgin,
then GAIM, to join. Moved on to mirc when I learned that GAIM
wasn't the best irc method, because my toy IRCbot sending literal
"/me foo" wasn't working for anybody with a real
client
L168[02:33:49] <CompanionCube> the
'goodbye' page for the minecraft server that got me into IRC
L169[02:33:52] <CompanionCube> is stil
up
L170[02:34:03] <dequbed> oh noes
L171[02:34:19] <Kilobyte> i started i
believe with KVIrc
L172[02:34:30] <Kilobyte> which has the
most cursed scripting language
L173[02:34:39] <Kilobyte> mix of perl,
bash and c
L174[02:34:54] <Amanda> I have a hard time
believing it's worse than mircscript
L175[02:35:12] <dequbed> Pidgin, then
pidgin some more, then Quassel for a universe second and then
irssi. dunno why that played out that way
L176[02:35:14] <Kilobyte> it's probably
bad in different ways
L177[02:35:40] <Amanda> Minecraft's
"scripting" is actually pretty similar in spirit
L178[02:35:41] <Kilobyte> later switched
to weechat, and just recently (about a year ago) quassel
L179[02:36:20] <Amanda> An cancerous
command parser that should have been given mercy long ago
L180[02:36:56] <Kilobyte> admittedly,
kvirc allows you to just run any script by prefixing it with
/
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L182[02:37:22] <Kilobyte> but same kinda
applies to shellscript
L183[02:37:59] <Amanda> %tell Inari I lean
down into your ear and whisper "VAGRANT LEAVE THE PREMISES,
YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE ANTI-POVERTY MANDATE."
L184[02:37:59] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L185[02:38:20] <dasdaf> Good time, i have
one question. It's really
L186[02:38:55] <dasdaf> works only over
mine or this have normal web chat
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L188[02:39:41] <Michiyo> This is an IRC
channel, or Espernet
L189[02:39:44] <dequbed> dasdaf: This
channel is available on esper.net as #oc and via Discord
%discord
L190[02:39:44] <MichiBot> https://discord.gg/0hVukoQ2KYm2aoXh
L191[02:39:54] <prismatic> what's the
easiest way to ask payonel something? I want to package ocvm for
the AUR, but I figure I should ask them first
L192[02:39:56] <Michiyo> any IRC client
will connect to irc.esper.net they also have
webchat.esper.net
L193[02:40:21] <dequbed> prismatic:
Discord or via GH discussion would be my first approaches
L194[02:40:27] <dasdaf> Thanks
L195[02:40:31] <Michiyo> payo isn't on IRC
anymore, so yeah, Discord or GH
L196[02:40:47] <Kilobyte> Amanda: i also
have to agree, at least visually mirc scripts seem worse
L197[02:40:57] <prismatic> dequbed:
alright, thanks. wdym by "GH discussion" tho?
L198[02:40:59] <Kilobyte> (after looking
at this screenshot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MIRC_scripts_editor.png)
L199[02:41:00] <dequbed> You can also uses
corded as a bridge, that can do PMs as well
L200[02:41:03] <Michiyo> you *CAN* send
him a DM on Discord if you DM Corded... but it's hacky
L201[02:41:08] <Michiyo> :P
L202[02:41:33] <Amanda> %tell Inari source
for that idea: They were rewarded with hugs and ear scritches, a
most fitting tribute to how cute they were. Selene leaned in close
to Sol’s ear and whispered “Remove yourself from the gates of
Capital, vagrant. You are in violation of the anti-poverty and
vagrancy codes and will be terminated if you do not comply.” Sol
frowned. That didn’t make sense.
L203[02:41:33] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L204[02:41:54] <Michiyo> querying Corded
with: Michiyo: Hello! will send me a DM on Discord
L205[02:42:03] <dequbed> prismatic: some
projects on Github can have a "discussions" tab for more
free-form talking than Issues allow but I just looked and OC does
not do so. In that case I'd open an Issue instead.
L206[02:42:11] <Michiyo> so payonel: Some
Message here, would do the same.
L207[02:42:58] <Amanda> %tell Inari (sauce
for the sauce: https://www.scribblehub.com/series/354624/catnip/
--, venusian catgirls!)
L208[02:42:58] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L209[02:44:22] <Amanda> %choose halucinate
about the moon or be responsible
L210[02:44:22] <MichiBot> Amanda: Is it a
bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "be responsible"!
L211[02:44:36] <Amanda> No!
L212[02:44:46] <Michiyo> lol
L213[02:44:57] <dequbed> Amanda: Go be a
responsible cat! There are things to throw off tables!
L214[02:45:19] <prismatic> I suppose I'll
open an issue on ocvm's repo
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L222[03:05:15] <lunar_sam> man
L223[03:05:44] <lunar_sam> i want to be
able to just hang out with friends and play dumb games again
L224[03:09:47] *
CompanionCube has stuck with weechat, before that i used
XChat
L225[03:09:54] <CompanionCube> (not
Hexchat, though.)
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L227[03:24:38] <Michiyo> %tonk
L228[03:24:38] <MichiBot> Holy empty soup
can Batman! Michiyo! You beat Vaur's previous record of 4 hours,
11 minutes and 10 seconds (By 1 hour, 29 minutes and 15 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L229[03:24:39] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new
record is 5 hours, 40 minutes and 26 seconds! Michiyo also gained
0.00745 (0.00149 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#3. Need 0.05216568 more points to pass Forecaster!
L230[03:29:03] *
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Amanda offers to move Elfi point-two squiggles on the beta
dimension, so she can be hungry again and eat even more
snacks
L234[04:15:48] *
Amanda tucks in, getting ready to zzzmew
L235[04:47:09] *
Amanda lays her head on her paws, lays her tail on her nose,
draping it over Elfi as a blanket, zzzmews
L236[04:47:12] <Amanda> Night nerds
L237[04:47:23] <Michiyo> Night
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L243[08:05:03] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL244[08:05:04] <MichiBot> You drink a
fragrant tomato potion (New!). It tastes sweet.
L245[08:10:07] <Forecaster> This channel was
#opencomputers before it was #oc
<Forecaster> This channel was
#opencomputers before it was #ocL246[08:18:45]
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L250[09:01:40] <Inari> nep!
L251[09:02:08] <Inari> Amanda: sounds like
something a bad AI would come up with!
L252[09:36:06] <Michiyo> %tonkout
L253[09:36:06] <MichiBot> Yay! Michiyo!
You beat your own previous record of 5 hours, 40 minutes and 26
seconds (By 31 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!
L254[09:36:07] <MichiBot> Michiyo has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points!
plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.30004, Position #3 Need 0.03616568 more points to pass
Forecaster!
L255[09:51:44] <Forecaster> The nerve!
<Forecaster> The nerve!L256[09:56:17]
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L260[12:21:10] <Amanda> Inari: which
part?
L261[12:25:17] <Inari> Amanda: the weird
nonsense response?
L262[13:05:02] <Inari> it's the thing ou'd
see GPT-3 produce
L263[13:05:08] <Inari> *the kind of
thing
L264[13:48:20] <Bob>
running docker just to be able to cross compile for OC2 be like
https://tinyurl.com/yccke8so
<Bob>
running docker just to be able to cross compile for OC2 be like
https://tinyurl.com/yccke8soL265[13:58:38] <Izaya> would running a
same arch VM with qemu but like, 4GB of RAM be practical for
developing for OC2?
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L267[14:44:12] <Amanda> Inari: It was a
dream sequence, interupted by guard robots attacking
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L269[15:04:29] <Amanda> Inari: you've
never had your alarm start playing in your dream while you're
sleeby?
L270[15:07:51] <MGR> I had
that happen a lot for about a year before I fixed it
<MGR> I had
that happen a lot for about a year before I fixed itL271[15:08:18] <MGR> I
used to wake up hours early because my dream watch was running
ahead of time
<MGR> I
used to wake up hours early because my dream watch was running
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<Forecaster> %sipL274[15:13:18] ⇦
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L275[15:13:19] <MichiBot> You drink a
slimy gold potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus!
But Forecaster's anti-virus routines destroy it.
L276[15:13:25] <Forecaster> phew
<Forecaster> phewL277[15:15:47] *
Amanda sends the antivirus routines to the labs for analysis, this
is hurting her bitcoin portfolio!
L278[15:19:38] <Inari> Amanda: sure
L279[15:19:50] <Inari> My alarm doesn't go
"YOU ARE IN VIOLTION..." though
L280[15:20:37] <Amanda> Inari: but if an
alarm can bleed through, why not some billionaires' robot police
force
L281[15:21:38] <Kilobyte> is that a thing
that happens? I have had actual sounds (alarm, cars, doorbell) go
through into my dream, but i cant remember waking up from a sound
that i imagined
L282[15:22:47] <Amanda> I just recently
had one of my sister's alarms bleed though into a dream w confusing
results while we were sharing a cabin on a cruise
L283[15:23:36] <Kilobyte> i think our
amzon logistics delivery people got wise to that and always ring at
least three times
L284[15:23:54] <Amanda> It doesn't always
have to bring you to full awareness, but it's definitely a
thing
L285[15:26:53] <Kilobyte> on that note: i
genuinely hate amazon logistics. Stuffing packages into the mail
box which just barely fit, but are basically impossible to get out
again
L286[15:27:18] <Kilobyte>
"delivering" packages by jamming them under the wipers on
the car next to the house
L287[15:27:59] <Kilobyte> or my personal
favourite: in the garbage bin
L288[15:28:26] <Kilobyte> (bonus points if
thats the day before the garbage truck comes, and nobody tells you
where it is)
L289[15:28:52] <Amanda> They're not paid
enough to be reasonable
L290[15:29:07] <Kilobyte> i am not blaming
the people delivering
L291[15:29:16] <Kilobyte> i am blaming the
company
L292[15:29:26] <Kilobyte> i know it's an
absolute shit job
L293[15:30:30] <Forecaster> so if you're unsatisfied you
can take it out on other people, good to know
<Forecaster> so if you're unsatisfied you
can take it out on other people, good to knowL294[15:30:47] <Amanda> I mean.
L295[15:31:10] <Amanda> They literally
have to piss in their (hopefully empty) drink bottles to make the
delivery quotas the robots at Amazon demand
L296[15:31:39] <Amanda> There's only so
much a human can take before they snap
L297[15:32:14] <Kilobyte> you can actually
pretty much see how bad they are treated by how they deliver. DHL
for example is pretty reasonable still
L298[15:32:38] <Kilobyte> the DHL driver
usually finds the time to bring it to the neighbours when i'm not
home
L299[15:33:24] <Kilobyte> (though i'm told
that also heavily depends on where you live)
L300[16:11:44] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL301[16:11:45] <MichiBot> Zoinks!
Forecaster! You beat Michiyo's previous record of <0 (By 6
hours, 35 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L302[16:11:46] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 6 hours, 35 minutes and 38 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00659 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need
0.13944864 more points to pass Vaur!
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L311[18:53:09] <Michiyo> DHL may be
alright outside the US, but they are absolute trash here.
L312[18:53:46] <Michiyo> Had a next day
delivery get delayed by 3 days because of 'Inclement weather"
they were delivering from about 20 miles away, and it had rained 2
days prior.
L313[18:54:07] <Michiyo> Not a cloud in
the sky.
L314[18:54:31] <Forecaster> here shipping is fine,
because employees can't just mishandle packages because they're
felling bad
<Forecaster> here shipping is fine,
because employees can't just mishandle packages because they're
felling badL315[18:54:39] <Forecaster> but also we have fair wages
here
<Forecaster> but also we have fair wages
hereL316[18:55:39] <Michiyo> Also, never have
anything delivered via OnTrac if you can avoid it. Was supposed to
have a package delivered on the 8th, it hasn't moved from their
first warehouse since the 6th
L317[18:55:47] <Michiyo> they just keep
slapping "delayed" on it
L318[18:57:09] <Forecaster> well, to be fair you can be
on the track even if you aren't moving :P
<Forecaster> well, to be fair you can be
on the track even if you aren't moving :PL319[18:59:37]
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L326[19:26:26] <Bob> i
still can't get communication over `/dev/hvc0` right arg
<Bob> i
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L330[19:32:37] <Bob> ill
try with dd (disk destroyer) instead
<Bob> ill
try with dd (disk destroyer) insteadL331[19:36:04] <Bob> i can
and do defenitely fuck with the buffer but besides that, i can't
seem to get any results back https://tinyurl.com/y82u9u25
<Bob> i can
and do defenitely fuck with the buffer but besides that, i can't
seem to get any results back https://tinyurl.com/y82u9u25L332[19:51:59] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL333[19:52:00] <MichiBot> You drink a
smooth rubium potion (New!). 3 nearby pebbles suddenly shift
slightly in Forecaster's direction.
L334[19:55:51] <Bob> yeah
i think ill just use a serial tty library instead of metal io
<Bob> yeah
i think ill just use a serial tty library instead of metal ioL335[19:57:32] <Bob> just
aquired the baud rate of `/dev/hvc0`
<Bob> just
aquired the baud rate of `/dev/hvc0`L336[20:03:34] <Forecaster> Zelda treasure music
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L338[20:12:25] <Bob> 134kB
for a single executable will take eons to transfer to OC2
<Bob> 134kB
for a single executable will take eons to transfer to OC2L339[20:12:32] <Izaya> heeey guess
what
L340[20:12:36] <Izaya> my router just
fucking died.
L341[20:13:05] <Forecaster> Maybe it was overrouted
<Forecaster> Maybe it was overroutedL342[20:13:17] <Izaya> guess it's a good
thing that I'm basically a hoarder because the fucking WRT54GL it
replaced still works
L343[20:16:20] <Bob> is
there a way to make importing faster ?
<Bob> is
there a way to make importing faster ?L344[20:16:56] <Bob> Rust
likes to statically link its own libraries as it doesnt know what
an ABI is and the standart serialization library just adds 100kB of
its stuff
<Bob> Rust
likes to statically link its own libraries as it doesnt know what
an ABI is and the standart serialization library just adds 100kB of
its stuffL345[20:17:12] <Bob> even
with `-O3` and lots of `strip` arguments, it still doesnt cut
<Bob> even
with `-O3` and lots of `strip` arguments, it still doesnt cutL347[20:20:19] <Bob>
>inkoate: So, whats the baud rate of this serial device?
115200?
<Bob>
>inkoate: So, whats the baud rate of this serial device?
115200?L348[20:20:19] <Bob> `stty
-F /dev/hvc0 -a` says `baud: 38400` , also i also switched to
`serialport` now, and i got a time out so far, serde alone adds
100kB ontop of my executable, i'm gonna cry, but still, `baud` is
unused with `TTYPort`s, i now just need to figure out why or how
are there timeouts, i'll mess with the settings for the serial port
device
<Bob> `stty
-F /dev/hvc0 -a` says `baud: 38400` , also i also switched to
`serialport` now, and i got a time out so far, serde alone adds
100kB ontop of my executable, i'm gonna cry, but still, `baud` is
unused with `TTYPort`s, i now just need to figure out why or how
are there timeouts, i'll mess with the settings for the serial port
deviceL349[20:36:46] <Bob>
actually nvm, it does work partially
<Bob>
actually nvm, it does work partiallyL351[20:37:00] <Bob> if
there's an illegal state left in `/dev/hvc0` it means that it did
write stuff to the socket
<Bob> if
there's an illegal state left in `/dev/hvc0` it means that it did
write stuff to the socketL352[20:37:07] <Bob> now
need to figure out how to get rid of that duration
<Bob> now
need to figure out how to get rid of that durationL353[20:37:33] <Bob> the
nice thing about `serialport` is that it seems to handle dropping
automatically and also registering and polling for read / writes,
but it implements timeouts that arent what i need so
<Bob> the
nice thing about `serialport` is that it seems to handle dropping
automatically and also registering and polling for read / writes,
but it implements timeouts that arent what i need soL354[20:41:53] <sapphicfettucine> >Bob: is there a way
to make importing faster ?
<sapphicfettucine> >Bob: is there a way
to make importing faster ?L355[20:41:53] <sapphicfettucine> use datapacks
<sapphicfettucine> use datapacksL356[20:41:59] <sapphicfettucine> also, @Bob
<sapphicfettucine> also, @BobL357[20:42:15] <sapphicfettucine> i think i know what's
going wrong with your implementation
<sapphicfettucine> i think i know what's
going wrong with your implementationL358[20:42:41] <sapphicfettucine> i've been messing with
it too; i'm pretty sure the way you're setting raw mode is not
sticking
<sapphicfettucine> i've been messing with
it too; i'm pretty sure the way you're setting raw mode is not
stickingL359[20:43:16] <Bob> yeah
probably raw mode at it again
<Bob> yeah
probably raw mode at it againL360[20:43:19] <sapphicfettucine> using the termios
crate, this works like a charm:
<sapphicfettucine> using the termios
crate, this works like a charm:L362[20:43:20] <sapphicfettucine> (sorry, IRC
folks)
<sapphicfettucine> (sorry, IRC
folks)L363[20:43:42] <Bob>
`serialport` doesn't seem to have a `raw` mode setting
<Bob>
`serialport` doesn't seem to have a `raw` mode settingL364[20:43:47] <Bob>
neither `-echo`
<Bob>
neither `-echo`L365[20:43:56] <sapphicfettucine> use termios then a
normal file
<sapphicfettucine> use termios then a
normal fileL366[20:44:04] <sapphicfettucine> use termios to set raw
mode then a normal file [Edited]
<sapphicfettucine> use termios to set raw
mode then a normal file [Edited]L367[20:44:17] <Bob> well
at this point i can just use `File` and some `libc` calls
:thonk
<Bob> well
at this point i can just use `File` and some `libc` calls
:thonkL368[20:44:41] <Bob> and i
really need to pack serde down
<Bob> and i
really need to pack serde downL369[20:44:46] <Bob> its
so damn fat in the final executable
<Bob> its
so damn fat in the final executableL370[20:44:59] <sapphicfettucine> yeah you can just use
libc calls to set it i'm just using termios to do it for me because
i'm lazy
<sapphicfettucine> yeah you can just use
libc calls to set it i'm just using termios to do it for me because
i'm lazyL371[20:45:02] <Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: use datapacks
<Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: use datapacksL372[20:45:02] <Bob> i can
change said IO rate trought data packs ? any examples
<Bob> i can
change said IO rate trought data packs ? any examplesL373[20:45:17] <Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: yeah you can just use libc calls to set it
i'm just using termios to d…
<Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: yeah you can just use libc calls to set it
i'm just using termios to d…L374[20:45:18] <Bob> fair
enough, but there are so much lambda crates to handle that idk
which to choose
<Bob> fair
enough, but there are so much lambda crates to handle that idk
which to chooseL375[20:45:23] <Bob> it
does seem like the flags are my problem
<Bob> it
does seem like the flags are my problemL377[20:45:53] <sapphicfettucine> >Bob: i can change
said IO rate trought data packs ? any examples
<sapphicfettucine> >Bob: i can change
said IO rate trought data packs ? any examplesL378[20:45:53] <sapphicfettucine> https://github.com/fnuecke/oc2/tree/1.18-forge/src/main/resources/data/oc2/file_systems
<sapphicfettucine> https://github.com/fnuecke/oc2/tree/1.18-forge/src/main/resources/data/oc2/file_systemsL379[20:48:45] <Bob> i
just had the cursed thought of getting LuaJIT onto OC2
<Bob> i
just had the cursed thought of getting LuaJIT onto OC2L380[21:02:16] <Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: using the termios crate, this works like a
charm:
<Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: using the termios crate, this works like a
charm:L381[21:02:16] <Bob>
```rust
<Bob>
```rustL382[21:02:16] <Bob> let
mut …
<Bob> let
mut …L383[21:02:17] <Bob> do i
need `termios` to hand around or i can drop and forget about it
?
<Bob> do i
need `termios` to hand around or i can drop and forget about it
?L384[21:02:29] <sapphicfettucine> i think you can drop it
but /shrug
<sapphicfettucine> i think you can drop it
but /shrugL385[21:06:12] ⇦
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L386[21:06:51] <Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: i think you can drop it but /shrug
<Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: i think you can drop it but /shrugL387[21:06:51] <Bob> lets
pray
<Bob> lets
prayL388[21:07:00] <Bob> i
think i should switch to BufReaders and BufWriters too
<Bob> i
think i should switch to BufReaders and BufWriters tooL389[21:07:27] <Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: https://github.com/fnuecke/oc2/tree/1.18-forge/src/main/resources/data���
<Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: https://github.com/fnuecke/oc2/tree/1.18-forge/src/main/resources/data���L390[21:07:27] <Bob> so
mounting datapacks as read only drives ?
<Bob> so
mounting datapacks as read only drives ?L391[21:07:46] <Bob> thats
more annoying than just waiting for a minute
<Bob> thats
more annoying than just waiting for a minuteL392[21:08:18] <Bob> the
transfer rate seems to be around 1KB/s (maybe KiB?) so it takes 2
minutes
<Bob> the
transfer rate seems to be around 1KB/s (maybe KiB?) so it takes 2
minutesL393[21:08:38] <Bob> i
wonder if i dont handle the `Result` in main, how much can it
shrink the executable size
<Bob> i
wonder if i dont handle the `Result` in main, how much can it
shrink the executable sizeL395[21:09:57] <Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: using the termios crate, this works like a
charm:
<Bob>
>sapphicfettucine: using the termios crate, this works like a
charm:L396[21:09:57] <Bob>
```rust
<Bob>
```rustL397[21:09:57] <Bob> let
mut …
<Bob> let
mut …L398[21:09:57] <Bob> So
where do i write / read from if not from `/dev/hvc0` ?
<Bob> So
where do i write / read from if not from `/dev/hvc0` ?L399[21:10:25] <sapphicfettucine> i mean, /dev/hvc0
<sapphicfettucine> i mean, /dev/hvc0L400[21:10:27] <sapphicfettucine> you open it
<sapphicfettucine> you open itL401[21:10:42] <sapphicfettucine> with a file
<sapphicfettucine> with a fileL402[21:10:47] <sapphicfettucine> i can post my own code
in a bit
<sapphicfettucine> i can post my own code
in a bitL403[21:10:54] <Bob> yeah
i am, i get a `Bad file descriptor` just above it seems
<Bob> yeah
i am, i get a `Bad file descriptor` just above it seemsL404[21:11:21] <Amanda> have you rebooted
since your last attempts? Maybe you put it in a bad state
L405[21:12:16] <sapphicfettucine> yeah that's my thought
too
<sapphicfettucine> yeah that's my thought
tooL406[21:12:21] <Bob>
nope
<Bob>
nopeL407[21:12:28] <Bob> else
it'd complain if i use `import.lua`
<Bob> else
it'd complain if i use `import.lua`L408[21:12:41] <Bob> it
means it simply doesnt even write to it
<Bob> it
means it simply doesnt even write to itL409[21:12:54] <Bob> with
`serialport` at least it was writting and scrwing the state
<Bob> with
`serialport` at least it was writting and scrwing the stateL410[21:18:01] <Bob> welp,
if i can have the code to take a peek, that'd be very thanks
<Bob> welp,
if i can have the code to take a peek, that'd be very thanksL411[21:20:07] <sapphicfettucine> i'll post it in a bit
dw
<sapphicfettucine> i'll post it in a bit
dwL412[21:20:18] <Bob> i
have to go to bed 😔
<Bob> i
have to go to bed 😔L413[21:27:49]
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L414[21:28:06] <skydark> SFGRVDSFSDF
L415[21:28:24] <Bob>
SFGRVDSFSDF
<Bob>
SFGRVDSFSDFL416[21:28:26] <jackie> What a nice
introduction :P
L417[21:28:30] <Vaur>
please don't
<Vaur>
please don'tL418[21:28:44]
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L421[21:32:22] <Bob> that
was fast
<Bob> that
was fastL422[21:32:50] <jackie> With such a nice
introduction I was surprised to not see more of their awesome
messages xD
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L425[21:35:30] <Forecaster> maybe you'll get your
wish
<Forecaster> maybe you'll get your
wishL426[21:35:52] <sTARDUST> ello ?
L427[21:36:05] <Amanda> hello
L428[21:36:06] <Forecaster> %hello
<Forecaster> %helloL429[21:36:08] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome
to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your
questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L430[21:36:20] <sTARDUST> is one of you
playing ftb beyond ?
L431[21:36:41] <sTARDUST> we speak to you
with an open coputer mod
L432[21:37:30] <jackie> I haven't heard
anyone talking about ftb beyond here since some time but someone
surely is or was playing the pack ^^
L433[21:37:30] <jackie> Why?
L434[21:38:45] <sTARDUST> me and my friend
Skydark are playing together on a custom ftb server
L435[21:38:55] <sTARDUST> would you join
us ?
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L437[21:40:43] <Forecaster> most of us tend to be too
busy with our own stuff to join random minecraft servers
<Forecaster> most of us tend to be too
busy with our own stuff to join random minecraft serversL438[21:42:41] ⇦
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L439[21:43:07] <jackie> rude. left without
even telling us the ip (not that I'd wanna play minecraft right now
but still :P)
L440[21:43:32] <jackie> well. probably the
same as the ip he joined irc with
L441[21:43:48] <Forecaster> yes
<Forecaster> yesL442[21:46:08] ⇦
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L443[21:47:26] <Forecaster> at least they didn't shout
profanities like some of them, so many times better in my
opinion
<Forecaster> at least they didn't shout
profanities like some of them, so many times better in my
opinionL444[21:49:06] <jackie> The ones I found
most amusing where those that joined from the in game irc client,
assumed we were all also using the ingame client and told us to get
a life instead of hanging in front of a computer in minecraft just
to chat with each other :P
L445[21:49:44] <Forecaster> there's all kinds
<Forecaster> there's all kindsL446[22:04:09]
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L448[22:08:06] <sapphicfettucine> @Bob for when you're
awake, here's my *very* wip impl of the hlapi: <https://github.com/allie-signet/miku-rpc>
<sapphicfettucine> @Bob for when you're
awake, here's my *very* wip impl of the hlapi: <https://github.com/allie-signet/miku-rpc>L449[22:18:39]
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L450[22:20:43] <CompanionCube> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLUGamPXMAA6tYg?format=png&name=small
L451[22:27:10] <Vaur>
repost 😄
<Vaur>
repost 😄L452[22:48:56] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL453[22:48:57] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours, 35
minutes and 38 seconds (By 1 minute and 34 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L454[22:48:58] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points!
plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.35879568, Position #2 Need 0.12344864 more points to pass
Vaur!
L455[23:26:22] <lunar_sam> i guess i
should first implement TNv2 in OC before i try it on like
L456[23:26:41] <lunar_sam> linux
L457[23:26:45] <lunar_sam> lol
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