L1[00:00:06] <Amanda> This was long before
NVMe and whatever the mostly-compatible SATA connection is was
around
L2[00:00:27] <Amanda> Might just be a
problem with that formfactor
L3[00:00:38] <Amanda> But I've never given
them a second shot
L4[00:00:41] <Kilobyte> ah, that was back
when i didn't have the money to afford such luxuries :D
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L7[00:01:34] <Amanda> This was late '00s
early '10s, and my HDD was making clicking noises so since I had to
get a replacement anyway, figured I might as well splurg
L8[00:03:03] <Kilobyte> i believe i got my
first computer around 2010 so i didn't think about that back
then
L9[00:04:10] 
<Bob>
>Amanda: The samsung SSD I had was a SATA/ide one, one you'd
replace a normal H…
<Bob>
>Amanda: The samsung SSD I had was a SATA/ide one, one you'd
replace a normal H…L10[00:04:10] <Bob> the
870 EVO is a SATA SSD oof
<Bob> the
870 EVO is a SATA SSD oofL11[00:32:50] <Bob> i
just have no clue where to start with OC2
<Bob> i
just have no clue where to start with OC2L12[00:34:54] <Michiyo>
drop the jar in your mods folder.
<Michiyo>
drop the jar in your mods folder.L13[00:35:12] <Michiyo>
Also, drop the OTHER jar in your mods folder.
<Michiyo>
Also, drop the OTHER jar in your mods folder.L14[00:35:25] <Michiyo>
Buy me a pizza.
<Michiyo>
Buy me a pizza.L15[00:35:45] <Kilobyte> i'd take one as
well, kinda hungry right now
L16[00:36:00] <Michiyo>
OC Pizza party, Bob's buyin
<Michiyo>
OC Pizza party, Bob's buyinL17[00:36:28] <Kilobyte> i like that
idea
L18[00:38:24] <Bob> if
only
<Bob> if
onlyL19[00:38:35] <Bob> and i
meant about using Rust with OC2
<Bob> and i
meant about using Rust with OC2L20[00:38:41] <Bob> i
know nothing about RISC-V or embedded dev
<Bob> i
know nothing about RISC-V or embedded devL21[00:38:54] <Bob> i
have a OC2 setup rn and i even guessed the login
<Bob> i
have a OC2 setup rn and i even guessed the loginL22[00:38:56] <Bob>
😎
<Bob>
😎L23[00:39:38] <Kilobyte> you mean you
guessed it after both Amanda and dequbed told you? :P
L24[00:40:02] <Bob> rigth
before
<Bob> rigth
beforeL25[00:40:09] <Bob> it
was my first guess too
<Bob> it
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L29[00:42:20] <Kilobyte> ohai
L30[00:42:21] <Z0idberg>
>Bob: i have a OC2 setup rn and i even guessed the login
<Z0idberg>
>Bob: i have a OC2 setup rn and i even guessed the loginL31[00:42:21] <Z0idberg>
You should really do an overview of the RISC-5 architecture. If
you're planning on targeting it for your builds its kind of
important
<Z0idberg>
You should really do an overview of the RISC-5 architecture. If
you're planning on targeting it for your builds its kind of
importantL32[00:42:35] <Z0idberg>
You should really do an overview of the RISC-V architecture. If
you're planning on targeting it for your builds its kind of
important [Edited]
<Z0idberg>
You should really do an overview of the RISC-V architecture. If
you're planning on targeting it for your builds its kind of
important [Edited]L33[00:43:09] <Z0idberg>
I replied to the wrong thing but the right person lol
<Z0idberg>
I replied to the wrong thing but the right person lolL34[00:43:17] <Bob> how
bad can it be 🤔
<Bob> how
bad can it be 🤔L35[00:44:58] <Bob> now i
need to figure out if OC2 has some kind of `stdout` so i can write
hello world to it, i went and got the `riscv64gc-unknown-none-elf`
target as dequbed suggested
<Bob> now i
need to figure out if OC2 has some kind of `stdout` so i can write
hello world to it, i went and got the `riscv64gc-unknown-none-elf`
target as dequbed suggestedL36[00:45:54] <Z0idberg>
Well the problem is that RISC-V is an sm entirely docent
architecture, but also an entirely different architectural paradigm
to put it simple. Some things that you have previously done with
Rust could be inefficient if written in the same way as say x86.
Llvm can only do so much. Understanding what's going on underneath
is important, especially if the architecture is clocked lower than
normal.
<Z0idberg>
Well the problem is that RISC-V is an sm entirely docent
architecture, but also an entirely different architectural paradigm
to put it simple. Some things that you have previously done with
Rust could be inefficient if written in the same way as say x86.
Llvm can only do so much. Understanding what's going on underneath
is important, especially if the architecture is clocked lower than
normal.L37[00:46:20] <Z0idberg>
Well the problem is that RISC-V is an entirely different
architecture, but also an entirely different architectural paradigm
to put it simple. Some things that you have previously done with
Rust could be inefficient if written in the same way as say x86.
Llvm can only do so much. Understanding what's going on underneath
is important, especially if the architecture is clocked lower than
normal. [Edited]
<Z0idberg>
Well the problem is that RISC-V is an entirely different
architecture, but also an entirely different architectural paradigm
to put it simple. Some things that you have previously done with
Rust could be inefficient if written in the same way as say x86.
Llvm can only do so much. Understanding what's going on underneath
is important, especially if the architecture is clocked lower than
normal. [Edited]L38[00:47:41] <Z0idberg>
For example with C on the 6502 there are certain patterns that you
should avoid depending on the compiler you choose.
<Z0idberg>
For example with C on the 6502 there are certain patterns that you
should avoid depending on the compiler you choose.L39[00:47:55] <Bob> i
doubt that printing hello world can be this bad
<Bob> i
doubt that printing hello world can be this badL40[00:48:14] <Z0idberg>
I wouldn't worry about hello world
<Z0idberg>
I wouldn't worry about hello worldL41[00:48:20] <Bob> and
Rust now has profiles, which means i can make a special build
profile at any time to toggle certain optimizations
<Bob> and
Rust now has profiles, which means i can make a special build
profile at any time to toggle certain optimizationsL42[00:48:23] <Bob> but i
trust LLVM for now
<Bob> but i
trust LLVM for nowL43[00:48:30] <Bob> i
know RISC-V is radically different from x86
<Bob> i
know RISC-V is radically different from x86L44[00:48:38] <Z0idberg>
But if you decide to do anything involved with it
<Z0idberg>
But if you decide to do anything involved with itL45[00:48:40] <Bob> but i
dont know either architectures so
<Bob> but i
dont know either architectures soL46[00:48:46] <Bob> yeah
sure ill look into it
<Bob> yeah
sure ill look into itL47[00:50:03] <Z0idberg>
I've been contemplating a port of 386 BSD 1.0 to OC2, but I still
need to look over some data sheets and programming manuals for the
RISC-V before I can start it.
<Z0idberg>
I've been contemplating a port of 386 BSD 1.0 to OC2, but I still
need to look over some data sheets and programming manuals for the
RISC-V before I can start it.L48[00:50:21] <Kilobyte> that sounds like a
fun idea
L50[00:50:53] <Bob> hell
yeaaah
<Bob> hell
yeaaahL51[00:50:55] <Bob>
segfault
<Bob>
segfaultL52[00:51:04] <Z0idberg>
It is very likely I will determine that is not worth it. 386BSD has
a lot of x86 assembly glue
<Z0idberg>
It is very likely I will determine that is not worth it. 386BSD has
a lot of x86 assembly glueL53[00:51:36] <Kilobyte> even if not, you'd
probably have a lot of hardware specific code
L54[00:52:03] <Kilobyte> not to mention
drivers (i doubt BSD 1.0 supports virtio)
L55[00:52:24] <Z0idberg>
The nice thing about 386BSD is that it's extremely tiny and mostly
a 1:1 port of at&t unix
<Z0idberg>
The nice thing about 386BSD is that it's extremely tiny and mostly
a 1:1 port of at&t unixL56[00:52:54] <Z0idberg>
No I would have to write a virtio driver
<Z0idberg>
No I would have to write a virtio driverL57[00:53:21] <Z0idberg>
I think the last update for 386bsd was in 1989 or 1990. Well before
virtio existed
<Z0idberg>
I think the last update for 386bsd was in 1989 or 1990. Well before
virtio existedL58[00:55:06] <Z0idberg>
It has a lot of 4.4BSD's codebase concepts
<Z0idberg>
It has a lot of 4.4BSD's codebase conceptsL59[01:06:21] <Amanda> %choose irradiate or
play with the forest
L60[01:06:21] <MichiBot> Amanda: The sands
of time whisper to me... they're saying
"irradiate".
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L62[01:06:44] <Amanda> Damnit, who put coal
dust in the sands of time again
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L64[01:09:13] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL65[01:09:13] <MichiBot> Yow! Vaur! You
beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 49 minutes
and 19 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L66[01:09:14] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record
is 2 hours, 49 minutes and 19 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00282
tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L67[01:11:29] <Ocawesome101> my laptop specifically has
a samsung 970 evo plus
<Ocawesome101> my laptop specifically has
a samsung 970 evo plusL68[01:11:38] <Ocawesome101> hasn't failed on me yet but
it's only been ~6 months
<Ocawesome101> hasn't failed on me yet but
it's only been ~6 monthsL69[01:13:39] <Z0idberg>
Aibohphobia
<Z0idberg>
AibohphobiaL70[01:13:46] <Z0idberg>
It's a real thing
<Z0idberg>
It's a real thingL71[01:14:18] <Michiyo>
Fear of palindromes.... lulz
<Michiyo>
Fear of palindromes.... lulzL73[02:55:57] ⇦
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L76[03:04:44] <dequbed> @Z0idberg
"Some things that you have previously done with Rust could be
inefficient ..." no. about as far away from the truth as it
gets. It's not 1970 anymore.
L77[03:05:20] <dequbed> If you're worried
that your compiler can't optimize something for a target you're
either wrong or writing a very bad language like uh C for
example.
L78[03:10:22] <Amanda> dequbed: you forget,
they're out of phase with our time stream, being from Maine and
all
L79[03:11:10] <dequbed> Amanda: good
point
L80[03:12:58] <dequbed> To be fair
@Z0idberg 's point totally holds true for things like GPUs, but
except for some rounding errors all CPUs ISAs that can claim being
modern find their limits in the laws of physics and not their
architecture and to fix those you need an Amanda or @Ariri, not a
compiler :P
L81[03:13:45] <Amanda> Hey, the last time I
tweaked the physics constants was roughly 14b years ago, and you
know how that went
L82[03:14:08] <dequbed> Still have the
other universe in a marble somewhere, don't remind me
<.<
L83[03:14:43] <Ariri>
hehe~
<Ariri>
hehe~L84[03:14:51] <Ariri>
:3
<Ariri>
:3L85[03:22:45] <Amanda> %choose zzzmew or
play with the radioactive pixels or stare at the ghosts hovering
above Inari's bed
L86[03:22:45] <MichiBot> Amanda: Somebody
once told me to roll with "stare at the ghosts hovering above
Inari's bed"
L87[03:23:30] <dequbed> @Bob regardless, a
word of caution: OC2 is a hosted environment with a full Linux
below it. A lot of RISC-V targets are embedded chips and µCs that
do not run Linux. You can write Rust for both but code for the
latter will not work on the former and vice versa. Really you want
to write normal Linux application code but cross-compile it to
riscv64-linux-musl.
L88[03:23:31] <Amanda> %give MichiBot A
single .jpg proving the existence of the supernatural
L89[03:23:31] *
MichiBot accepts the single .jpg proving the existence of the
supernatural and adds it to her inventory
L90[03:25:22] <dequbed> In other words: If
you find "Rust for RISC-V" posts chances are good it's
talking about embedded RISC-V targets because otherwise the
architecture really doesn't matter much. Compiling an application
for an Android Phone on AArch64 is not much different than
compiling it for a Windows on x86_64. Given that is, the stdlib.
Which is the part you will need to figure out :P
L91[03:26:00] <Amanda> Also at the moment
there's no way to flash custom eeproms and the only one in the game
contains the Linux kernel
L92[03:26:06] <Amanda> Unless that's
changed
L93[03:26:13] <dequbed> Pretty sure that's
still valid
L94[03:26:58] <dequbed> I'd like to be able
to go full custom OS route though. I'd like to see if Redox could
be ported :P
L95[04:10:56] <prisma> when are we getting
a #oc lore document; to quote a certain red panda: "why are
there so many Dark Souls lore channels but not a single Mario
Sunshine lore channel"
L96[04:21:45] <Michiyo> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/?dir=logs/%23oc All of
the lore of OC. :P
L97[04:22:28] <Michiyo> #OC *
L98[04:28:30] <prisma> heh
L99[04:29:13] <Xandaros>
%tonk
<Xandaros>
%tonkL100[04:29:13] <MichiBot> Yeah! Xandaros!
You beat Vaur's previous record of 2 hours, 49 minutes and 19
seconds (By 30 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L101[04:29:14] <MichiBot> Xandaros's new
record is 3 hours and 20 minutes! Xandaros also gained 0.00153
(0.00051 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #7. Need
0.00068 more points to pass Ocawesome101!
L102[04:29:29] <prisma> how many logs are
there, exactly?
L103[04:29:29] <Michiyo> Damn it I was
ABOUT to do that
L104[04:29:35] <Xandaros>
😄
<Xandaros>
😄L105[04:29:36] <Michiyo> exactly?
L106[04:29:37] <Michiyo> lots
L107[04:29:41] <prisma> oh boy
L108[04:29:45] <prisma> how far back do
they go
L109[04:29:48] <Michiyo> Yes
L110[04:29:53] <prisma> I see.
L111[04:29:59] <Michiyo> 2014
L112[04:30:03] <Michiyo> Jan 23rd
L113[04:30:08] <prisma> is
"latest" all of them?
L114[04:30:12] <Michiyo> Which is... ya
know, ALL of them
L115[04:30:14] <prisma> Or just
today's
L116[04:30:31] <Michiyo> ?
L117[04:30:43] <prisma> the "Download
All" gives me a ~340MB "latest.tgz" file
L118[04:30:51] <prisma> I'm assuming from
the link it's all logs?
L119[04:30:51] <Michiyo> Oh, yeah that's
everything
L120[04:31:00] <prisma> Damn, only
340MB?
L121[04:31:06] <Michiyo> Text compresses
well
L122[04:31:11] <prisma> Fair
L123[04:33:27] <Michiyo> OH
L124[04:33:28] <Michiyo> lol
L125[04:33:34] <Michiyo> this is
downloading ALL of the channels I log
L126[04:33:35] <Michiyo> lmao
L127[04:33:49] <prisma> that is... a lot
of logs
L128[04:34:18] <Michiyo> Well, enjoy all
of the channels I log/logged :P
L129[04:34:22] <prisma> heh
L130[04:34:30] <prisma> #oc has the most
logs by far though
L131[04:34:53] <prisma> I suppose
everything before that is lost to time, huh?
L132[04:35:01] <prisma> Although they do
go far back a lot
L133[04:35:09] <Michiyo> Those are the
first lines sent to #oc
L134[04:35:21] <prisma> Oh, really?
L135[04:35:24] <Michiyo> there was another
channel first, but it was only around for like a day or two
L136[04:35:32] <prisma> So this is the
entire history of #oc
L137[04:35:52] <Michiyo> Yes, there are
*SMALL* gaps where Neo has been down
L138[04:36:11] <Michiyo> And *SOME*
overlap where I got logs from other sources, in different timezones
than my own
L139[04:36:12] <prisma> I assume nothing
important happened during then
L140[04:36:45] <dequbed> I mean it's #oc.
Nothing *really* important happens here :P
L141[04:36:50] <Michiyo> Oof
L142[04:37:28] <prisma> Heh
L143[04:38:10] <lunar_sam> lol
L144[04:38:30] <dequbed> I mean come on,
except fundamentally reform computer mods for minecraft, kickstart
a new generation of programmers and made all of us a lot of friends
what did #oc ever *really* do for us?! :P
L145[04:39:30] <dequbed> (/s if it wasn't
obvious)
L146[04:39:36] <Michiyo> lol
L147[04:40:13] <Izaya> I remember
#opencomputers
L148[04:40:39] <Michiyo> Me too
L150[04:45:29] <Michiyo>
Damn...
<Michiyo>
Damn...L151[04:45:30] <Michiyo>
nicwe
<Michiyo>
nicweL152[04:45:33] <Michiyo>
nice too
<Michiyo>
nice tooL153[04:46:37] <ThePiGuy24> needs more optimisation
<ThePiGuy24> needs more optimisationL154[04:50:28] <Izaya> are the artifacts
misses?
L155[04:52:54] <ThePiGuy24> no that is just my shit
polygon renderer being inconsistent
<ThePiGuy24> no that is just my shit
polygon renderer being inconsistentL156[04:55:34] <ThePiGuy24> well atleast i think its the
polygon render, could be the subpixel drawing routines
<ThePiGuy24> well atleast i think its the
polygon render, could be the subpixel drawing routinesL157[04:57:10] <Kleadron>
polygon seams
<Kleadron>
polygon seamsL158[04:57:35] <ThePiGuy24> well it is always on the
endge of a poly
<ThePiGuy24> well it is always on the
endge of a polyL159[04:59:44] <Kleadron>
of course the test model for colors is flags :)
<Kleadron>
of course the test model for colors is flags :)L160[05:00:40] <ThePiGuy24> actually the original test
model was an octahedron ;p
<ThePiGuy24> actually the original test
model was an octahedron ;pL161[05:01:02] <ThePiGuy24> then i went on to loading
models from a game because it had a suitable format
<ThePiGuy24> then i went on to loading
models from a game because it had a suitable formatL162[05:01:51] <ThePiGuy24> this was just for a bit of
fun, though it did point out an issue that i didnt notice before,
that was colours were off by one index (damn you lua)
<ThePiGuy24> this was just for a bit of
fun, though it did point out an issue that i didnt notice before,
that was colours were off by one index (damn you lua)L163[05:02:20] <Kleadron>
haha
<Kleadron>
hahaL164[05:06:20] <Amanda> Hey, those foxes
did it again!
L165[05:07:08] <Amanda> I really wish
they'd stop time skipping me, thanks to that white stuff they
spread all over the lawn I can't nap past 0700
L166[05:14:56] *
Amanda curls up around Elfi, meowing about those rascally foxes and
their unnecessary time skips, zzzmews
L167[05:15:03] <Amanda> Night nerds
L168[05:21:14] <prisma> I wish OC let you
read RAM
L169[05:21:18] <prisma> well,
read/write
L170[05:21:32] <prisma> would allow for
some interesting swapping impls
L171[05:25:28] <prisma> oh god I have just
had an idea
L172[05:25:37] <prisma> RAID, but for
computronics tapes.
L173[05:27:32] <prisma> Izaya: didn't you
write a filesystem for tapes at one point?
L174[05:27:34] <Izaya> what RAID
level
L175[05:27:43] <prisma> 0
L176[05:27:48] <prisma> I don't think OC's
RAID has RAID 1 either
L177[05:27:54] <Izaya> so just extend over
them?
L178[05:28:00] <prisma> RAID 1 could be
implemented for tapes fairly easily though
L179[05:28:14] <prisma> RAID 1 is just
cloning right?
L180[05:28:20] <prisma> so drive A ==
drive B == drive C etc
L181[05:28:23] <Izaya> mirroring,
yeah
L182[05:28:34] <prisma> fs size is
determined by smallest member I think
L183[05:28:43] <Izaya> RAID size*
L184[05:28:50] <prisma> for RAID 1?
L185[05:28:53] <Izaya> yeah
L186[05:28:58] <Izaya> FS is
optional
L187[05:29:03] <prisma> ahhhh
L188[05:29:20] <Izaya> I have a bit of
software that adds a virtual tape drive that has a getTrack and
setTrack and lets you use a transposer as a tape changer
L189[05:30:07] <Hawk777> RAID 1, except
instead of putting all the disks (or tapes) in the same place like
you usually do IRL, you put them in *different* places, because the
risk isn’t hardware failure due to age, but rather hardware failure
due to creeper explosions?
L190[05:30:28] <prisma> ...RAID, but over
a network?
L191[05:30:41] <Izaya> that could be
nice
L192[05:30:50] <Hawk777> Well, doesn’t
need to be anything fancy. Could just be a local component bus, but
with the component wiring running into a couple of different
obsidian vaults or something.
L193[05:31:06] <prisma> wiring is a weak
point
L194[05:31:08] <prisma> not blast
resistant
L195[05:31:13] <Izaya> though I suspect
keeping a list of changed blocks/files/whatever and sending them
periodically could be nice
L196[05:31:14] <prisma> you want it to be
fully encased
L197[05:31:23] <prisma> Izaya: that
reminds me
L198[05:31:26] <prisma> how would one do
inodes
L199[05:31:34] <prisma> considering you
have like, at most 4MB
L200[05:31:49] <prisma> assuming no
RAIDs
L201[05:32:02] <Izaya> the PDP-11 hard
drives that unix was "designed" for were 5, 10 or 20 MB,
IIRC
L202[05:32:19] <prisma> did the original
extfs have permissions?
L203[05:32:32] <prisma> or was everything
single-user back then
L204[05:32:35] <Izaya> but personally I'm
a fan of inodes being dynamically allocated and referenced by
absolute block number
L205[05:32:37] <Hawk777> “wiring is a weak
point” ← depends on whether you care about availability (shared
wire getting blown up is a problem, takes your computer down) or
just integrity (shared wire getting blown up doesn’t matter, you
can just rebuild it, the important thing is that one of your two
disks or tapes didn’t get blown up)
L206[05:32:59] <Izaya> ext replaced the
minix filesystem which IIRC was a fairly minimal conceptual
repalcement for the unix filesystem
L207[05:33:04] <prisma> someone could blow
up the wire and then break into the vault
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L209[05:33:57] <Izaya> (which is to say,
it's a full unix filesystem, but probably designed for much bigger
drives than OC has)
L210[05:34:17] <Hawk777> Sure, depends on
whether your threat model is a malicious human player or a
mob.
L211[05:34:44] <prisma> also I'd imagine a
charged creeper could blow up the drives inside
L212[05:34:53] <prisma> I will test rn,
actually
L213[05:35:09] <Hawk777> Actually!
L214[05:35:26] <Hawk777> OpenComputers is
for 1.12, which didn’t have crouching. So barring cheating, just
run the cable around a few bends in a 1×1 route into the
vault?
L215[05:35:39] <Izaya> or mods
L216[05:35:42] <Hawk777> Should stop an
explosion from getting in.
L217[05:35:47] <Hawk777> Yeah.
L218[05:35:48] <Izaya> my 1.12 lets me
climb through 1x1 holes with the help of a trapdoor
L219[05:36:03] <Hawk777> Well, sure, up to
you if you add that feature though.
L220[05:36:05] <Izaya> prisma: it might be
worth digging up a copy of the Lyons commentary on unix v6, not
sure if it includes the filesystem but uhhhh yeah
L221[05:36:24] <prisma> the what
L222[05:36:57] <prisma> ok so a charged
creeper can't blow up through a wire
L223[05:36:59] <prisma> interesting!
L224[05:37:35] <Hawk777> What? Component
bus cables are explosion resistant?
L225[05:37:53] <Hawk777> Or you mean
standing on the opposite side of a cable keeps it far enough away
not to decide to explode?
L226[05:38:12] <Izaya> the lyons
commentary is a ... 70s? textbook from UNSW, it's the version 6
unix source code with commentary, basically
L227[05:38:22] <prisma> Hawk777: the wire
gets blown up
L228[05:38:23] <prisma> not the
RAID!
L229[05:38:31] <Hawk777> Ah, OK.
L230[05:38:36] <Izaya> that's my understanding of it,
but I haven't read it
L231[05:38:39] <Hawk777> So as long as
there’s only one of them you’re OK :)
L232[05:38:49] <Izaya> TNT shover
L233[05:38:51] <Izaya> B)
L234[05:39:06] <prisma> or
L235[05:39:08] <prisma> an ICBM
L236[05:43:21] <prisma> wow, the 1.12
lighting engine is.. really shit
L237[05:44:08] <prisma> hmm
L238[05:44:12] <prisma> how do I stop a
red matter explosive
L239[05:44:21] <prisma> is it an
entity?
L240[05:44:29] <prisma> yup!
L241[05:46:36] <prisma> ...man I wish
worldedit was async
L242[05:47:17] <Michiyo>
>prisma: ...man I wish worldedit was async
<Michiyo>
>prisma: ...man I wish worldedit was asyncL244[05:47:33] <prisma> it's for
1.11
L245[05:47:35] <prisma> isn't it?
L246[05:47:50] <prisma> "Game
Version: 1.11.2"
L247[05:48:01] <prisma> (and there's like,
five mods for 1.11)
L248[05:49:11] <prisma> or does it work on
1.12.2
L249[05:49:15] <prisma> and CF is just a
stupid
L250[05:51:00] <Michiyo>
"(MC: 1.7 - 1.12)" shrug
<Michiyo>
"(MC: 1.7 - 1.12)" shrugL251[05:51:02] <Michiyo>
It seems to work
<Michiyo>
It seems to workL253[05:51:21] <Michiyo>
Minecraft 1.12.2 and FastAsyncWorldEdit
<Michiyo>
Minecraft 1.12.2 and FastAsyncWorldEditL254[05:51:34] <prisma> yeah, it appears
to
L255[05:51:42] <prisma> ...when I
re-install worldedit alongside it
L256[05:52:02] <prisma> is there a way to
make `screen` not clear the terminal on exit?
L257[05:52:21] <Michiyo>
Oh hmm....
<Michiyo>
Oh hmm....L259[05:52:28] <Michiyo>
Maybe not...
<Michiyo>
Maybe not...L260[05:52:40] <prisma> does it not load
for you?
L261[05:52:46] <prisma> my server loads
fine with it
L262[05:52:48] <Michiyo>
Can't load a world with it loaded
<Michiyo>
Can't load a world with it loadedL263[05:52:48] <prisma> what W/E
ver?
L264[05:52:53] <prisma> ah.
L265[05:53:03] <Michiyo>
`worldedit-forge-mc1.12-6.1.8-dist.jar`
<Michiyo>
`worldedit-forge-mc1.12-6.1.8-dist.jar`L266[05:53:30] <Michiyo>
Oh
<Michiyo>
OhL267[05:53:39] <Michiyo> I
didn't grab 12.2
<Michiyo> I
didn't grab 12.2L268[05:53:39] <prisma> mine is 6.10 I
think?
L269[05:53:40] <Michiyo>
>_>
<Michiyo>
>_>L270[05:53:42] <prisma> might be
6.1.0
L271[05:53:44] <prisma> ah
L272[05:53:46] <prisma> yeah that might do
it :P
L273[05:54:14] <Michiyo>
I'm blaming CF for that one
<Michiyo>
I'm blaming CF for that oneL274[05:54:35] <Michiyo>
Nah, still crashes on world load
<Michiyo>
Nah, still crashes on world loadL275[05:54:37] <Michiyo>
bleh
<Michiyo>
blehL276[05:54:54] <prisma> a VerifyError is
bytecode-related right?
L278[05:55:00] <prisma> stacktrace gives
me a bunch of hex
L279[05:55:14] <Michiyo>
Ah, does it crash for you too?
<Michiyo>
Ah, does it crash for you too?L280[05:55:45] <prisma> Yup
L281[05:55:56] <prisma> `Type
'com/sk89q/worldedit/math/convolution/GaussianKernel' (current
frame, stack[2]) is not assignable to
'java/awt/image/Kernel'`
L283[05:56:01] <MichiBot> Title:
VerifyError: Bad type on operand stack | Posted by: mibby
| Posted: Sun Jan 08 19:51:00 UTC 2017 | Status:
closed
L284[05:56:27] <Michiyo>
And the build on CF isn't updated
<Michiyo>
And the build on CF isn't updatedL285[05:56:33] <prisma> do I need to
downgrade worldedit?
L286[05:56:47] <prisma> or do I need to
build from source
L287[05:57:31] <Michiyo>
Their Jenkins seems to focus on 1.13+
<Michiyo>
Their Jenkins seems to focus on 1.13+L288[05:57:37] <Michiyo>
the other download source linked seems dead
<Michiyo>
the other download source linked seems deadL289[05:57:48] <prisma> https://ci.athion.net/job/FastAsyncWorldEdit-Legacy/1285/artifact/target/FastAsyncWorldEdit-forge112-19.11.13-5505943-1282-22.3.5.jar
L290[05:57:49] <prisma> there's this
L291[05:58:00] <Michiyo>
or that.
<Michiyo>
or that.L292[05:58:01] <Michiyo>
lol
<Michiyo>
lolL293[05:58:25] <Michiyo>
https://ci.athion.net/job/FastAsyncWorldEdit-Legacy/
neat, they just hid the legacy job lol
<Michiyo>
https://ci.athion.net/job/FastAsyncWorldEdit-Legacy/
neat, they just hid the legacy job lolL294[05:58:28] <Michiyo>
it's all still there
<Michiyo>
it's all still thereL295[05:58:41] <Michiyo>
1295 is the last build
<Michiyo>
1295 is the last buildL296[05:59:08] <Michiyo>
though, no forge build? shrug
<Michiyo>
though, no forge build? shrugL297[05:59:40] <Michiyo>
woooow.... 32kb/s
<Michiyo>
woooow.... 32kb/sL298[05:59:52] <Michiyo>
Oh I got 43!
<Michiyo>
Oh I got 43!L299[05:59:54] <Michiyo>
62!
<Michiyo>
62!L300[05:59:59] <Michiyo>
oh nope.. got cocky
<Michiyo>
oh nope.. got cockyL301[06:00:00] <Michiyo>
40
<Michiyo>
40L302[06:00:48] <prisma> I get, uh
L303[06:00:50] <prisma> 5MB/s
L304[06:00:54] <prisma> although that's on
my VPS
L305[06:01:13] <Michiyo> I
mean, I'm on 1gb/s both ways so I don't think it's a me limit
<Michiyo> I
mean, I'm on 1gb/s both ways so I don't think it's a me limitL306[06:01:15] <Michiyo>
shrug
<Michiyo>
shrugL307[06:01:47] <Michiyo>
Can confirm though with 1285 I can load a world
<Michiyo>
Can confirm though with 1285 I can load a worldL308[06:02:02] <prisma> Nice
L309[06:03:19] <prisma> man, having three
monitors is so useful
L310[06:03:32] <prisma> I need to embiggen
my third one though
L311[06:03:41] <prisma> (it's like,
1280x1024)
L312[06:03:41] <Michiyo>
And... I just replaced 624k blocks in no time with it
<Michiyo>
And... I just replaced 624k blocks in no time with itL313[06:03:43] <Michiyo>
so... neat
<Michiyo>
so... neatL314[06:04:02] <prisma> I need to //regen
a whole area lmao
L315[06:04:13] <prisma> May have set off a
red matter
L316[06:04:28] <prisma> ...why is
railcraft activating the christmas seasonal stuff
L317[06:04:29] <CompanionCube> Izaya: but
then moving data around sucks
L318[06:04:30] <prisma> it's a bit
late
L319[06:05:44] <CompanionCube> just use s
regular number but keep the dynamic allocation
L320[06:06:03] <Ocawesome101> prisma: FAWE works on
1.13-1.17 too iirc
<Ocawesome101> prisma: FAWE works on
1.13-1.17 too iircL321[06:06:12] <Ocawesome101> also i have heard it can be
unstable
<Ocawesome101> also i have heard it can be
unstableL322[06:06:50] <CompanionCube> also iirc
in V7 the filesystem was literally
L323[06:06:53] <prisma> huh.
L324[06:07:08] <prisma> 664k blocks
(664560)
L325[06:07:12] <prisma> in seven
seconds.
L326[06:07:12] <Michiyo>
prisma 3.6 million blocks https://drive.pc-logix.com/index.php/s/tB5W4CiMRty67D4/preview
<Michiyo>
prisma 3.6 million blocks https://drive.pc-logix.com/index.php/s/tB5W4CiMRty67D4/previewL327[06:07:16] <prisma> (and that was a
chunk regen)
L328[06:07:17] <CompanionCube> 'there's
data and elsewhere on the disk there's the clump of inodes'
L329[06:07:26] <prisma> my god
L330[06:07:26] <CompanionCube> lemme the
wiki...
L332[06:08:24] <Michiyo>
Wait, did that NOT link the fucking gif I took
<Michiyo>
Wait, did that NOT link the fucking gif I tookL333[06:08:40] <CompanionCube> oh, here's
one v7 directories: https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/UnixLinearDirectories
L334[06:08:44] <Michiyo>
god damn it sharex/nextcloud
<Michiyo>
god damn it sharex/nextcloudL335[06:09:15] <Michiyo>
https://drive.pc-logix.com/remote.php/dav/files/Michiyo/sharex/javaw_f7vVmixOQ8.gif
<Michiyo>
https://drive.pc-logix.com/remote.php/dav/files/Michiyo/sharex/javaw_f7vVmixOQ8.gifL336[06:09:21] <Michiyo>
that MIGHT work?
<Michiyo>
that MIGHT work?L337[06:10:24] <Michiyo>
No.. it doesn't
<Michiyo>
No.. it doesn'tL338[06:10:25] <Michiyo>
bleh
<Michiyo>
blehL339[06:10:45] <Michiyo>
anyway like 3 seconds lol
<Michiyo>
anyway like 3 seconds lolL340[06:11:24] <CompanionCube> prisma: ah,
found it
L341[06:11:28] <CompanionCube> https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSDirectoriesAndChanges
L342[06:11:34] <CompanionCube> look at the
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L346[06:59:31] <prisma> how in the living
heck do I get worldedit to paste at //pos1
L347[06:59:34] <prisma> and not where I am
standing
L348[06:59:42] <prisma> (why does it do
that?)
L349[07:10:18] <Bob>
>dequbed: <@!202281082047954954> regardless, a word of
caution: OC2 is a hosted …
<Bob>
>dequbed: <@!202281082047954954> regardless, a word of
caution: OC2 is a hosted …L350[07:10:18] <Bob> yeah
dequbed, i guess i do want that, as OC2 provides a Linux env, but
then it would require to make such a target huh, and i saw that
most guides about foreign architectures are embedded guides so far,
i know i will need to compile the std and stuff, but how do i make
/ tell a target that its linux musl huh
<Bob> yeah
dequbed, i guess i do want that, as OC2 provides a Linux env, but
then it would require to make such a target huh, and i saw that
most guides about foreign architectures are embedded guides so far,
i know i will need to compile the std and stuff, but how do i make
/ tell a target that its linux musl huhL351[07:11:26] <Bob> i
started looking for that
<Bob> i
started looking for thatL352[07:14:01] <Bob> ill
go deeper down the rabbit hole, i'm already using
`-Zbuild-std`
<Bob> ill
go deeper down the rabbit hole, i'm already using
`-Zbuild-std`L353[07:14:17] <CompanionCube> isn't it
usually a 'target triple' or similar
L354[07:16:27] <Bob>
There's `riscv64gc-unknown-linux-gnu` which is Tier 2 support then
also `riscv64gc-unknown-linux-musl` exists with Tier 3
support
<Bob>
There's `riscv64gc-unknown-linux-gnu` which is Tier 2 support then
also `riscv64gc-unknown-linux-musl` exists with Tier 3
supportL355[07:16:33] <Bob>
should be doable
<Bob>
should be doableL356[07:17:04] <CompanionCube> first is
probably glibc, yeah
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L358[07:18:14] <Bob> yep,
thats `gnu` stuff
<Bob> yep,
thats `gnu` stuffL359[07:18:20] <Bob>
`musl` is well, musl libc
<Bob>
`musl` is well, musl libcL360[07:33:41] <CompanionCube>
generally
L361[07:34:17] <CompanionCube> i vaguely
recall rust having linker shenanigans wrt targets but no
specifica
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L363[07:51:34] <Bob>
shenanigans all the way!
<Bob>
shenanigans all the way!L364[08:00:05] <Michiyo> prisma, if it
pasted at //pos1 I would murder people :D
L365[08:01:06] <Michiyo> An option,
maybe... but I always //cut somewhere where I can line it up when I
//paste
L366[08:29:10] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL367[08:29:11] <MichiBot> Dogast!
Forecaster! You beat Xandaros's previous record of 3 hours and 20
minutes (By 39 minutes and 57 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L368[08:29:13] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 3 hours, 59 minutes and 57 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00268 (0.00067 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #2. Need 0.01512864 more points to pass Vaur!
L369[08:29:29] <Michiyo> FMFL
L370[08:29:35] <Michiyo> .____. lol
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L381[12:09:48] <Mylan>
..hey ?
<Mylan>
..hey ?L382[12:10:07] <Mylan> I
don't know how to use IRC..
<Mylan> I
don't know how to use IRC..L383[12:12:27] <Forecaster> then look it up
<Forecaster> then look it upL384[12:12:43]
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L386[12:13:10] <Vaur>
>Mylan: ..hey ?
<Vaur>
>Mylan: ..hey ?L387[12:13:10] <Vaur> you
are using discord though
<Vaur> you
are using discord thoughL388[12:17:42] <Bob> IRC
or more commonly known as the Internet Retro Chat protocol...
<Bob> IRC
or more commonly known as the Internet Retro Chat protocol...L389[12:38:46] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL390[12:38:47] <MichiBot> Golly!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 59
minutes and 57 seconds (By 9 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L391[12:38:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points!
plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.23417568, Position #2 Need 0.00512864 more points to pass
Vaur!
L392[12:48:19] <Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 have you ever seen my first computer?
<Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 have you ever seen my first computer?L393[12:48:53] <Kristopher38> how was i supposed to
<Kristopher38> how was i supposed toL394[12:49:22] <Bob>
```
<Bob>
```L395[12:49:22] <Bob>
error[E0425]: cannot find value `SYSclone3Code Block pastebined
https://paste.pc-logix.com/focukoquwiSYScloneCode
Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/viwozimutaSYScloneCode
Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/kelalavetuconcatidents`
(in Nightly builds, run with -Z macro-backtrace for more
info)
<Bob>
error[E0425]: cannot find value `SYSclone3Code Block pastebined
https://paste.pc-logix.com/focukoquwiSYScloneCode
Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/viwozimutaSYScloneCode
Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/kelalavetuconcatidents`
(in Nightly builds, run with -Z macro-backtrace for more
info)L396[12:49:23] <Bob> ```
one step forward, two steps back, damn Tier 3 support for
`riscv64gc-unknown-linux-musl`
<Bob> ```
one step forward, two steps back, damn Tier 3 support for
`riscv64gc-unknown-linux-musl`L397[12:49:40] <Z0idberg>
I still have it
<Z0idberg>
I still have itL399[12:56:13] <Kristopher38> hmm
<Kristopher38> hmmL400[12:56:17] <Kristopher38> I don't recognize it
<Kristopher38> I don't recognize itL401[12:57:09] <Z0idberg>
That is a 1982 Tandy TRS-80 color computer model 2
<Z0idberg>
That is a 1982 Tandy TRS-80 color computer model 2L402[12:57:19] <Z0idberg>
With 64K of memory
<Z0idberg>
With 64K of memoryL403[12:57:23] <Kristopher38> ooh
<Kristopher38> oohL404[12:57:47] <Kristopher38> i thought of trs80 but I
remembered it as having a silver case
<Kristopher38> i thought of trs80 but I
remembered it as having a silver caseL405[12:58:32] <Kristopher38> but now that I looked it up
seems like model 2 had a standard retro color
<Kristopher38> but now that I looked it up
seems like model 2 had a standard retro colorL406[12:59:22] <Z0idberg>
It had a really nice Motorola 6809E CPU, which had a dual stack so
it was awesome for forth. With that said the CPU was the only thing
special about it
<Z0idberg>
It had a really nice Motorola 6809E CPU, which had a dual stack so
it was awesome for forth. With that said the CPU was the only thing
special about itL407[12:59:41] <Z0idberg>
There is a reason people call them "trash 80s"
<Z0idberg>
There is a reason people call them "trash 80s"L408[13:11:17] <Kristopher38> I've read about it some
more now, seems like they introduced some novel quality of life
features but ultimately high price brought the design down
<Kristopher38> I've read about it some
more now, seems like they introduced some novel quality of life
features but ultimately high price brought the design downL409[13:17:22] <Z0idberg>
I forget how much it was, $500? I didnt' buy it my dad did
<Z0idberg>
I forget how much it was, $500? I didnt' buy it my dad didL410[13:17:27] <Z0idberg>
he bought two of them too
<Z0idberg>
he bought two of them tooL411[13:17:33] <Z0idberg>
I have both today
<Z0idberg>
I have both todayL412[13:18:44] <Z0idberg>
anyways, one of the big issues with it is the hardware. For
example, the graphics hardware is a super poor design. But what
pains me more is the fact that the serial port has no interrupts at
all
<Z0idberg>
anyways, one of the big issues with it is the hardware. For
example, the graphics hardware is a super poor design. But what
pains me more is the fact that the serial port has no interrupts at
allL413[13:20:24] <Z0idberg>
the only way to receive serial data on it is hope the hell that
when you are receiving data that you caught it in time or it will
be gone forever.
<Z0idberg>
the only way to receive serial data on it is hope the hell that
when you are receiving data that you caught it in time or it will
be gone forever.L414[13:39:39] ⇦
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L416[14:38:42] <Bob> cc
and its cryptic error codes damn it
<Bob> cc
and its cryptic error codes damn itL417[14:39:11] <Bob> and
is OC2's linux using gnu libc or musl libc
<Bob> and
is OC2's linux using gnu libc or musl libcL418[14:39:51] <Bob> and
should i link the c runtime statically
<Bob> and
should i link the c runtime staticallyL419[14:41:02] <Ocawesome101> it
<Ocawesome101> itL420[14:41:06] <Ocawesome101> is probably using
musl
<Ocawesome101> is probably using
muslL421[14:41:08] <Ocawesome101> for size reasons
<Ocawesome101> for size reasonsL422[14:50:46] <ThePiGuy24> i would look to find out but
im too much of a dumbass to figure it out
<ThePiGuy24> i would look to find out but
im too much of a dumbass to figure it outL423[14:52:10] ⇦
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L425[15:00:52] <Amanda> musl, as stated
several times by it's target name
L426[15:01:26] <Bob> i
dont know where to look for
<Bob> i
dont know where to look forL427[15:01:28] <Amanda> did you not think
it odd we were saying riscv-blah-musl not riscv-blah-default or
whatever glibc is
L428[15:01:36] <dequbed> Amanda: I mean
that is a tidbit of information that is somewhat non-obvious for
people that aren't well versed in the whole thing
L429[15:01:51] <Bob> yeah
but i can link gnu's libc statically so
<Bob> yeah
but i can link gnu's libc statically soL430[15:01:56] <dequbed> LOL
L431[15:01:57] <dequbed> no.
L432[15:01:58] <Amanda> fair enough I
suppose, I just though it was somewhat obvious eben before I knew
how to parse that
L433[15:02:05] <Bob> yeah
i wont screw that
<Bob> yeah
i wont screw thatL434[15:02:16] <Bob> i
need to fix the musl riscv64 target
<Bob> i
need to fix the musl riscv64 targetL435[15:02:31] <Bob>
because now stdlib doesnt even compile
<Bob>
because now stdlib doesnt even compileL436[15:02:44] <Bob> some
syscall is broken
<Bob> some
syscall is brokenL437[15:02:50] <dequbed> @Bob but yeah,
cross-compiling is not an easy endeavour and there's a lot of
general things you should try to learn about first. Not even
specific to x86_64->riscv64, just general wtf and how the fuck
is cross-compiling.
L438[15:03:00] <Bob>
`SYS_clone3` or some bs
<Bob>
`SYS_clone3` or some bsL439[15:03:07] <Bob> yeah
im looking intoit
<Bob> yeah
im looking intoitL440[15:03:12] <Amanda> Cross compiling is
!!!!FUN!!!!
L441[15:03:18] <Bob>
started yesterday at 3AM
<Bob>
started yesterday at 3AML442[15:03:33] <Amanda> ... why do I have
two waybars on my second monitor
L443[15:03:57] <dequbed> @Bob You're
sattling the horse the wrong way around. Get a grip on
cross-compiling long before you ever think about "fixing a
target". You will not manage and only frustrate you (and us by
proxy via stupid questions).
L444[15:04:24] <Bob>
😎
<Bob>
😎L445[15:04:28] <Amanda> And I'm willing to
bet at least some of the problems you'll experience are from the
failing SSD corrupting shit
L446[15:04:29] <Bob> im
not home rn so
<Bob> im
not home rn soL447[15:04:44] <Bob>
>Amanda: And I'm willing to bet at least some of the problems
you'll experience…
<Bob>
>Amanda: And I'm willing to bet at least some of the problems
you'll experience…L448[15:04:45] <Bob> i
wish Amanda
<Bob> i
wish AmandaL449[15:05:01] <dequbed> "Fixing a
target" is starting in the middle where you have zero
knowledge about the assumptions made by both ends, have no
experience in the problem domain and aren't well versed in *any* of
the relevant codebases. Don't.
L450[15:05:28] <dequbed> Or y'know, do.
It'll take you a year but you'll learn a lot.
L451[15:06:11] <Amanda> ... Well that's
not right:
L452[15:06:31] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/GNmGATYFKhqjAJlooKGISLgN/screenshot-1643641547.png
L453[15:06:39] <Amanda> I think I might be
due a reboot
L454[15:06:47] <Forecaster> it's probably fine
<Forecaster> it's probably fineL455[15:06:55] <Forecaster> you just dropped some
pixels
<Forecaster> you just dropped some
pixelsL456[15:07:07] <Amanda> and blended them
between the two tabs I switched between
L457[15:07:30] <Amanda> brb, going to
reboot and pray that fixes it
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L459[16:21:32] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL460[16:21:32] <MichiBot> You drink a
liquid quicksilver potion (New!). Forecaster gains the proportional
strength of a turtle until they see a unicorn.
L461[16:21:56] <Forecaster> uh, I have no idea how strong
turtles are actually
<Forecaster> uh, I have no idea how strong
turtles are actuallyL462[16:45:00]
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L464[16:58:52] <Vaur>
probably not as strong as this %tonk
<Vaur>
probably not as strong as this %tonkL465[16:58:52] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks!
Vaur! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours,
20 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L466[16:58:53] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 4 hours, 20 minutes and 5 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00433 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L468[17:34:15] <Forecaster> how dare
<Forecaster> how dareL469[17:42:28]
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L473[18:24:33] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL474[18:24:33] <MichiBot> You drink a
muddy coralcreep potion (New!). Forecaster feels much better!
L475[18:24:42] <Forecaster> mm, muddy
<Forecaster> mm, muddyL476[18:29:03] <Forecaster> %splash Michiyo
<Forecaster> %splash MichiyoL477[18:29:03] <MichiBot> You fling a
gloopy mithril potion (New!) that splashes onto Michiyo. Michiyo
forgets the location of a great treasure.
L478[18:29:11] <Forecaster> that's unfortunate
<Forecaster> that's unfortunateL479[18:30:15] <Michiyo> ...
L480[18:30:57] <Forecaster> shame about that
treasure
<Forecaster> shame about that
treasureL481[18:36:07] <Forecaster> but that's a good reason to
go on an adventure to find another one
<Forecaster> but that's a good reason to
go on an adventure to find another oneL482[18:37:48]
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L483[18:38:25] <Forecaster> but it'll probably turn out
the treasure was the friends you made along the way or
something
<Forecaster> but it'll probably turn out
the treasure was the friends you made along the way or
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L485[18:45:43] <Bob>
```
<Bob>
```L486[18:45:44] <Bob>
error: linking with `ccCode Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/qagaquyece damn, if only
i could understand cc linker errors
<Bob>
error: linking with `ccCode Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/qagaquyece damn, if only
i could understand cc linker errorsL487[18:47:17] <Michiyo> I
think your main issue is `-no-pie` I'd refuse to compile with no
pie too.
<Michiyo> I
think your main issue is `-no-pie` I'd refuse to compile with no
pie too.L488[18:49:24] <Forecaster> maybe add `-no-cake`, just no
pastries at all
<Forecaster> maybe add `-no-cake`, just no
pastries at allL489[18:49:32] <dequbed> @Bob Well I'd say
you don't have the crt files for your target. You *do* have a
cross-compile toolchain for your target, do you not? :P
L490[18:49:41] <dequbed> C toolchain that
is.
L491[18:52:48] <Bob> at
last, the forbidden `riscv64-buildroot-linux-musl-cc`
<Bob> at
last, the forbidden `riscv64-buildroot-linux-musl-cc`L492[18:57:50] <Bob> i now
need to somehow figure out how to use all of this in cargo https://tinyurl.com/y8wfhrbo
<Bob> i now
need to somehow figure out how to use all of this in cargo https://tinyurl.com/y8wfhrboL493[19:07:21] ⇦
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L494[19:15:28] <Bob> ill
look into `cargo-make` and see if i can set the sysroot to this
generated toolchain for musl
<Bob> ill
look into `cargo-make` and see if i can set the sysroot to this
generated toolchain for muslL495[19:29:11] <Forecaster> to make cargo you just order
something from amazon
<Forecaster> to make cargo you just order
something from amazonL496[19:37:46] <Bob> i can
just set the linker to something but it doesnt seem like i can
somehow include those crt files into path
<Bob> i can
just set the linker to something but it doesnt seem like i can
somehow include those crt files into pathL497[19:37:59] <Bob>
unless i do something with cargo RUSTFLAGS or figure out something
with sysroot
<Bob>
unless i do something with cargo RUSTFLAGS or figure out something
with sysrootL498[19:38:00] <Bob> weird
af
<Bob> weird
afL500[20:11:02] <Forecaster> %test
<Forecaster> %testL501[20:11:03] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
No.
L502[20:11:06] <Forecaster> huh
<Forecaster> huhL503[20:29:15] <Bob> i
almost got it seems like, only missing three `.o` files out of the
five initial ones
<Bob> i
almost got it seems like, only missing three `.o` files out of the
five initial onesL504[20:31:29] <Bob>
actually it just doesnt use those other `.o` files
<Bob>
actually it just doesnt use those other `.o` filesL505[20:31:52] <Michiyo> @Forecaster what
was the expected result of said test?
L506[20:32:01] <Bob> yeah
it still doesnt include the toolchains libraries and stuff
<Bob> yeah
it still doesnt include the toolchains libraries and stuffL507[20:32:05] <Bob> i
blame pkgconfig
<Bob> i
blame pkgconfigL508[20:32:08] <Forecaster> no youtube blurb, thought MB
had died
<Forecaster> no youtube blurb, thought MB
had diedL509[20:32:41] <Michiyo> Ah
L510[20:32:42] <Michiyo> huh
L511[20:32:46] <Michiyo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAQt33Gj3KY
L512[20:32:56] <Michiyo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAQt33Gj3KY
L513[20:32:58] <Michiyo> ha wait
L514[20:33:18] <Michiyo> ... that's great
I just finished watching that SAME video... and tried to link it to
test
L515[20:33:23] <Michiyo> not realizing it
was the same URL
L516[20:33:48] <Michiyo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dHBpr44ra0
L517[20:33:53] <Michiyo> hmm
L518[20:34:41] <Michiyo>
commands\CommandArgumentParser.java:12: error: duplicate class:
pcl.lc.irc.entryClasses.CommandArgumentParser
L519[20:34:41] <Michiyo> public class
CommandArgumentParser {
L520[20:34:44] <Michiyo> what the actual
fuck
L521[20:34:53] <Forecaster> uh
<Forecaster> uhL522[20:36:04] <Michiyo>
C:\Users\Michi\Documents\GitHub\LanteaBot\build\filtered\pcl\lc\utils\entryClasses\commands\CommandArgumentParser.java:12:
L523[20:36:11] <Michiyo> :/
L524[20:36:12] <Michiyo> whelp
L525[20:36:17] <Michiyo> I'm out of fucks
to give for now
L526[20:36:21] <Michiyo>
%actualshrug
L527[20:36:21] <MichiBot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L528[20:36:57] <Forecaster> err, I might have committed
multiples of those due to some package jumbling and mucking up my
project history
<Forecaster> err, I might have committed
multiples of those due to some package jumbling and mucking up my
project historyL529[20:37:46] <Forecaster> or, maybe it committed the
moved file without removing the original...
<Forecaster> or, maybe it committed the
moved file without removing the original...L530[20:37:58] <Forecaster> lets check the actual
repo
<Forecaster> lets check the actual
repoL531[20:38:44] <Michiyo> it could just be
Idea being dumb
L532[20:39:24] <Forecaster> well, I did a dumb and
accidentally did a thing where it rolled back to some point in the
local history and duplicated a bunch of files
<Forecaster> well, I did a dumb and
accidentally did a thing where it rolled back to some point in the
local history and duplicated a bunch of filesL533[20:39:31] <Forecaster> it was a pain to fix
<Forecaster> it was a pain to fixL534[20:42:32] <Michiyo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dHBpr44ra0
L535[20:42:40] <Michiyo> Nothing
logged
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L537[20:44:03] <Forecaster> hm, interesting,
pcl.lc.irc.entryClasses.CommandArgumentParser doesn't exist in the
repo...
<Forecaster> hm, interesting,
pcl.lc.irc.entryClasses.CommandArgumentParser doesn't exist in the
repo...L538[20:45:18] ⇦
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L539[20:46:55] <Michiyo> My last commit
was fixing dyncmd, and MichiBot built on CI then
L540[20:47:42] <Michiyo> I rolled back to
3b2432fa6e7e0537bb285155ea0da282d6e1d71e and it still fails
L541[20:48:21] <Michiyo> blowing away the
"build" folder
L542[20:48:46] <Michiyo> yeah
L543[20:48:49] <Michiyo> that worked
L544[20:50:13] <gruetzkopf> hm, should OC2
config options currently work (they dont't in my dev env and i was
wondering if i broke something)
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L546[21:00:11] <Michiyo> https://xkcd.com/2574/
L547[21:00:15] <Michiyo> >_>
L548[21:00:16] <Michiyo> wtf
L550[21:15:45] <Z0idberg>
The snow is above my knees
<Z0idberg>
The snow is above my kneesL551[21:20:04] <Forecaster> that's a terrible place to
keep snow
<Forecaster> that's a terrible place to
keep snowL552[21:29:38]
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L553[21:29:43] <Xandaros>
%tonkout
<Xandaros>
%tonkoutL554[21:29:44] <MichiBot> Yay! Xandaros!
You beat Vaur's previous record of 4 hours, 20 minutes and 5
seconds (By 10 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L555[21:29:45] <MichiBot> Xandaros has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk
points! plus 0.003 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.01166. Position #7 => #5
(Overtook asie) Need 0.08772 more points to pass Kodos!
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L557[22:45:52] <Ocawesome101> i have for once had an idea
that i think could perhaps benefit more people than just
myself
<Ocawesome101> i have for once had an idea
that i think could perhaps benefit more people than just
myselfL558[22:46:02] <Ocawesome101> RRCS, the Remote Robot
Control System
<Ocawesome101> RRCS, the Remote Robot
Control SystemL559[22:46:12] <Ocawesome101> dedicated remote-control
system for robots and drones
<Ocawesome101> dedicated remote-control
system for robots and dronesL560[22:46:33] <Ocawesome101> (thanks kris for the poke
the other day. that got me thinking about other things to
write.)
<Ocawesome101> (thanks kris for the poke
the other day. that got me thinking about other things to
write.)L561[22:47:23] <Kristopher38> I've considered turning my
robot framework that evolved while doing my Von Neumann stuff into
an OS with dedicated libs for robot tasks lol
<Kristopher38> I've considered turning my
robot framework that evolved while doing my Von Neumann stuff into
an OS with dedicated libs for robot tasks lolL562[22:48:15] <Kristopher38> Was that the poke about
accessing remote components over URLs?
<Kristopher38> Was that the poke about
accessing remote components over URLs?L563[22:48:16] <Ocawesome101> mine will be just for
remote control, with support for loading code over the network and
whatnot, and ideally fit in an eeprom
<Ocawesome101> mine will be just for
remote control, with support for loading code over the network and
whatnot, and ideally fit in an eepromL564[22:48:46] <Ocawesome101> no it was the poke about
"i'm surprised you have up to this point only really made
unix-likes"
<Ocawesome101> no it was the poke about
"i'm surprised you have up to this point only really made
unix-likes"L565[22:49:27] <Kristopher38> Oh right
<Kristopher38> Oh rightL566[22:55:45] <Ocawesome101> side note: does anyone know
of any decent lua minifiers not written in JS?
<Ocawesome101> side note: does anyone know
of any decent lua minifiers not written in JS?L567[22:56:13] <Kilobyte> it needs to run
in oc?:
L568[22:56:18] <Kilobyte> if not: luac
:P
L569[22:56:37] <Ocawesome101> the resulting code does
need to run in OC, yes
<Ocawesome101> the resulting code does
need to run in OC, yesL570[22:56:43] <Kilobyte> too bad :D
L571[22:57:25] <Ocawesome101> i guess... @Kristopher38
where's the AST library you were messing with?
<Ocawesome101> i guess... @Kristopher38
where's the AST library you were messing with?L572[23:01:02]
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L573[23:02:05] <Kristopher38> So the one I'm using is a
stripped version of LuaMinify
<Kristopher38> So the one I'm using is a
stripped version of LuaMinifyL574[23:02:20] <Kristopher38> Stripped as in without the
code that would make minification work
<Kristopher38> Stripped as in without the
code that would make minification workL575[23:03:40] <Kristopher38> It tracked the scopes of
all variables by creating bazillion of tables https://github.com/stravant/LuaMinify
<Kristopher38> It tracked the scopes of
all variables by creating bazillion of tables https://github.com/stravant/LuaMinifyL576[23:04:12] <Kristopher38> It tracked the scopes of
all variables by creating bazillion of tables, here's the
unmodified version: https://github.com/stravant/LuaMinify [Edited]
<Kristopher38> It tracked the scopes of
all variables by creating bazillion of tables, here's the
unmodified version: https://github.com/stravant/LuaMinify [Edited]L577[23:04:48] <Kilobyte> i believe that
one has a bug making it impossible to run on linux*
L578[23:04:58] <Kilobyte> *) any system
with a case sensitive file system
L579[23:05:19] <Kristopher38> I've ran it on Linux no
problem so idk
<Kristopher38> I've ran it on Linux no
problem so idkL580[23:05:39] <Kilobyte> maybe they fixed
it, idk
L581[23:05:40] <Kilobyte> been years
L582[23:06:03] <Kristopher38> Anyway, the whole
minification could be made as you parse I think
<Kristopher38> Anyway, the whole
minification could be made as you parse I thinkL583[23:07:35] <Kristopher38> You'd still have to track
scopes, but you could hopefully optimize it a bit so it doesn't
need so many tables
<Kristopher38> You'd still have to track
scopes, but you could hopefully optimize it a bit so it doesn't
need so many tablesL584[23:07:58] <Kilobyte> eh, if it
works...
L585[23:08:57] <Kristopher38> Or maybe as a compromise
throw out the scope system LuaMinify uses and create your own,
doesn't have to minify as you parse
<Kristopher38> Or maybe as a compromise
throw out the scope system LuaMinify uses and create your own,
doesn't have to minify as you parseL586[23:10:22] <Kristopher38> Get inspect.lua and see how
the raw AST output looks like
<Kristopher38> Get inspect.lua and see how
the raw AST output looks likeL587[23:12:51] <Ocawesome101> ah thank you, kris
<Ocawesome101> ah thank you, krisL588[23:14:38] <Kristopher38> >Kristopher38: You'd
still have to track scopes, but you could hopefully optimize it a
bit so …
<Kristopher38> >Kristopher38: You'd
still have to track scopes, but you could hopefully optimize it a
bit so …L589[23:14:38] <Kristopher38> Looking at my commit
history now, looks like I've first removed tracking scopes, then
added optimized version back...
<Kristopher38> Looking at my commit
history now, looks like I've first removed tracking scopes, then
added optimized version back...L590[23:15:15] <Kristopher38> So it looks like this might
be of use to you https://github.com/Kristopher38/kdb
<Kristopher38> So it looks like this might
be of use to you https://github.com/Kristopher38/kdbL591[23:19:22] <Kristopher38> You could totally use the
base ParseLua.lua there as it is and modify my scope tracking
scheme to fit your needs
<Kristopher38> You could totally use the
base ParseLua.lua there as it is and modify my scope tracking
scheme to fit your needsL592[23:19:50] <Kristopher38> @Ocawesome101 You could
totally use the base ParseLua.lua there as it is and modify my
scope tracking scheme to fit your needs [Edited]
<Kristopher38> @Ocawesome101 You could
totally use the base ParseLua.lua there as it is and modify my
scope tracking scheme to fit your needs [Edited]L593[23:22:15] <Ocawesome101> is `FormatMini.lua`
functional?
<Ocawesome101> is `FormatMini.lua`
functional?L594[23:23:29] <Kristopher38> Nope
<Kristopher38> NopeL595[23:25:19] <Amanda> %choose give in to
the brain fof?
L596[23:25:20] <MichiBot> Amanda: Ah...
well, I'd say wait an hour.
L597[23:25:46] <Kristopher38> My point is original
LuaMinify won't work well for larger files, my fork will and
there's some groundwork laid out for minification
<Kristopher38> My point is original
LuaMinify won't work well for larger files, my fork will and
there's some groundwork laid out for minificationL598[23:26:14] *
Amanda curls up around Elfi, decides to halucinate
anyway
L599[23:26:18] <Ocawesome101> sure
<Ocawesome101> sureL600[23:26:35] *
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L601[23:26:39] <Kristopher38> I track which variables are
in scope so you could minify as you parse
<Kristopher38> I track which variables are
in scope so you could minify as you parseL602[23:27:05] <Ocawesome101> if i can't fit full RRCS
into 4KB with compression then i will base a minifier on the code
to which you have pointed me
<Ocawesome101> if i can't fit full RRCS
into 4KB with compression then i will base a minifier on the code
to which you have pointed meL603[23:27:45] <Kristopher38> Do you need the minifier to
run in OC though?
<Kristopher38> Do you need the minifier to
run in OC though?L604[23:28:22] <Ocawesome101> not particularly
<Ocawesome101> not particularlyL605[23:29:19] <Ocawesome101> running in OC is just a
nice benefit since the rest of my setup script probably will
<Ocawesome101> running in OC is just a
nice benefit since the rest of my setup script probably willL606[23:29:52] <Kristopher38> But that's effort :P
<Kristopher38> But that's effort :PL608[23:32:16] <Kristopher38> Or have a build script that
you run outside of OC
<Kristopher38> Or have a build script that
you run outside of OCL609[23:33:24] <Ocawesome101> that is indeed the easiest
option
<Ocawesome101> that is indeed the easiest
optionL610[23:40:47] ⇦
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