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<Doot> I
wanna lock the shell behind a password
<Doot> I
wanna lock the shell behind a passwordL3[01:52:09] <Amanda> %choose sleeps time or
continue poking the grey
L4[01:52:17] <MichiBot> Amanda: Out of
these two choices? I'd say "sleeps time".
L6[02:08:31] <lunar_sam>
very nice
<lunar_sam>
very niceL7[02:17:32] <ThePiGuy24> head pahoneys
<ThePiGuy24> head pahoneysL8[02:39:58] <Izaya> new wedge-shaped
aftermarket pads
L9[02:40:05] <Izaya> much comfier even if
the sound is a little wonky now
L10[02:43:13] *
Amanda curls up around elfi and meows to her about her great
hacking adventures today,
L11[02:43:31] *
Amanda passes out mid-story
L12[02:43:35] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L16[06:30:14] <lunar_sam> holy pain
L17[06:30:27] <lunar_sam> desktop on LTE is
physical pain
L18[06:38:16] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL19[06:38:18] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of 6 hours, 53
minutes and 39 seconds (By 5 hours, 25 minutes and 40 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L20[06:38:19] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 12 hours, 19 minutes and 19 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.03801 (0.00543 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #2. Need 0.41539254 more points to pass Vaur!
L21[06:46:18] <Izaya> latency making you
want to die?
L22[06:49:29] <lunar_sam> yes
L23[06:49:31] <lunar_sam> but
L24[06:49:39] <lunar_sam> throughput is so
much better than the hotel wifi
L25[06:49:47] <lunar_sam> ~long story as to
why i'm using hotel wifi~
L26[06:49:57] <lunar_sam> also the ethernet
just
L27[06:49:59] <lunar_sam> doesn't
work
L28[06:50:10] <lunar_sam> it's 11/10
L29[06:50:36] <CompanionCube> why doesn't
it work
L30[06:50:40] <lunar_sam> dunno
L31[06:50:48] <CompanionCube> inb4 vlan
funkiness.
L32[06:50:54] <lunar_sam> i never get any
ip config
L33[06:51:30] <CompanionCube> but does the
*ethernet* work?
L34[06:52:42] <lunar_sam> what's a good way
to test
L35[06:52:43] <lunar_sam> lmao
L36[06:52:54] <CompanionCube>
ifconfig?
L37[06:53:02] <lunar_sam> could wireshark
it
L38[06:53:07] <lunar_sam> now that i think
about it
L39[06:53:07] <Izaya> do you get a link
when you plug it in?
L40[06:53:18] <CompanionCube> i would also
suggest that
L41[06:53:39] <CompanionCube> probably
nothing, but you never know
L42[06:54:28] <CompanionCube> also 'ip
link' exists
L43[06:55:39] <lunar_sam> looks like i got
a link but fuck all on it
L44[06:56:17] <CompanionCube> no broadcast
traffic? unsurprising i guess :p
L45[06:57:08] <lunar_sam> hm
L46[06:57:33] <lunar_sam> ;p guess they'll
need to deal with TN ARP requests
L47[06:57:54] <CompanionCube> if nothing
else there should be *your own* broadcasts, right?
L48[06:59:51] <CompanionCube> i xuppose the
'giving absolutely no fucks' way is to do a broadcast storm and see
if anything goes boom but that;s a bad idea
L49[07:00:18] <lunar_sam> wait
L50[07:00:21] <lunar_sam> i brought a
switch with me
L51[07:00:24] <lunar_sam> lemme bypass
that
L52[07:00:26] <lunar_sam> see if i get a
link
L53[07:01:49] <lunar_sam> ah yes so
L54[07:01:54] <lunar_sam> the jack is not
connected to anything
L55[07:02:01] <CompanionCube> rip
L56[07:02:46] <CompanionCube> inb4 take off
stars in a review
L57[07:09:32] <lunar_sam> yes
L58[07:11:06] <lunar_sam> fuckers had a
blue rj45 jack and it doesn't even work
L59[07:11:13] <lunar_sam> can't have shit
in virginia
L60[07:20:15] <Ashirg>
%sip
<Ashirg>
%sipL61[07:20:17] <MichiBot> You drink a wild
avesmingo potion (New!). Ashirg turns into a unicorn girl until
someone looks at them.
L62[07:20:32] <Ashirg>
Oh
<Ashirg>
OhL63[07:32:10] ⇨
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L70[09:52:01] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL71[09:52:02] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy
bombastium potion (New!). A warp zone opens up next to Vaur. (Use
%warp to jump in)
L72[09:52:08] <Vaur>
%warp
<Vaur>
%warpL73[09:52:09] <MichiBot> You end up in your
bed.
L74[09:52:17] <Vaur>
perfect
<Vaur>
perfectL75[10:58:47] <Wattana>
is creating variable scopes like this recommended? Code Block
pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/uboqesusit
<Wattana>
is creating variable scopes like this recommended? Code Block
pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/uboqesusitL76[11:00:03] <Izaya> I do it a bit in
PsychOS and it hasn't caused any adverse effects I've noticed
L77[11:00:12] <Izaya> keeping kernel
modules clean where applicable
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L83[13:39:30] <jkaan> hello guys
L84[13:40:17] <jkaan> IM TURKSH
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L86[13:44:08] <Amanda> So, it's update
wednesday... do I uypdate on sattelite internert from a boat?
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L90[13:50:02] <Amanda> Nah, AFAIK no other
major CVE came out, so I'll just update my servers
L91[13:50:25] <Forecaster> satellites are the best at
updating things
<Forecaster> satellites are the best at
updating thingsL92[13:54:20] <Amanda> Well, shit:
"error: postgresql_9_6 has been removed from nixpkgs, as this
version is no longer supported by upstream"
L93[14:19:25] <Forecaster> it was the satellites
fault!
<Forecaster> it was the satellites
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L105[17:39:30] <Forecaster> it's great that steam tells
you the download size before you start a download, but not the
significantly larger post-install size... https://tinyurl.com/y5qkzvmw
<Forecaster> it's great that steam tells
you the download size before you start a download, but not the
significantly larger post-install size... https://tinyurl.com/y5qkzvmwL106[17:46:08] ⇦
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L107[17:52:55] <dequbed> @Forecaster
because those 12GB may not mean 12GB of *additional* storage spaced
used. They mean 12GB *written to your drive*. Those 12GB could be
replacing 11.8GB of already existing files, steam can't easily
tell.
L108[17:53:48] <Forecaster> that's true
<Forecaster> that's trueL109[17:54:06] <dequbed> It can on initial
install and so far steam has always given me a very accurate
post-install size before starting the download.
L110[17:54:16] <Forecaster> still, getting to know the
other value before starting it would still be useful
<Forecaster> still, getting to know the
other value before starting it would still be usefulL111[17:54:56] <dequbed> Which other
value?
L112[17:55:22] <Forecaster> the "installed"
size
<Forecaster> the "installed"
sizeL113[17:57:40] <dequbed> Which again is
almost impossible to definitely know. And pretty useless thanks to
that
L114[17:58:22] <dequbed> Well, especially
if you count temporary files as "installed size". And if
you don't, why do you care about the precise value?
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L118[18:12:14] <Z0idberg>
@Wattana you should uh.. see my printf
<Z0idberg>
@Wattana you should uh.. see my printfL119[18:12:21] <Z0idberg>
It's interesting...
<Z0idberg>
It's interesting...L120[18:12:43] <Z0idberg>
well my print() I mean
<Z0idberg>
well my print() I meanL122[18:14:08] <Z0idberg>
notice the name of the function and the last line in the
function
<Z0idberg>
notice the name of the function and the last line in the
functionL123[18:15:57] <Z0idberg>
the top level print is actually:
<Z0idberg>
the top level print is actually:L125[18:16:17] <Z0idberg>
so the way it works is that it tokenizes an input string by control
characters.
<Z0idberg>
so the way it works is that it tokenizes an input string by control
characters.L126[18:16:33] <Z0idberg>
and then it feeds it into gtty_print which is a recursive function
that breaks down every chunk
<Z0idberg>
and then it feeds it into gtty_print which is a recursive function
that breaks down every chunkL127[18:17:37] <Z0idberg>
it does that here:
<Z0idberg>
it does that here:L129[18:17:44] <Z0idberg>
Particularly on this line: ` if pfix < 32 then
handle_ctrl(terminal, pfix, chunks[1]) -- Next chunk passed for
\e`
<Z0idberg>
Particularly on this line: ` if pfix < 32 then
handle_ctrl(terminal, pfix, chunks[1]) -- Next chunk passed for
\e`L130[18:18:17] <Z0idberg>
At least this is how Trotwood handles printing to the gpu
<Z0idberg>
At least this is how Trotwood handles printing to the gpuL131[18:19:01] <Z0idberg>
the tokenize is straight forward:
<Z0idberg>
the tokenize is straight forward:L133[18:19:05] <Z0idberg>
And that's pretty much all you need
<Z0idberg>
And that's pretty much all you needL134[18:20:09] <Z0idberg>
it will convert something like "Hello, World!\n" into
{"Hello, World!", "\n"}
<Z0idberg>
it will convert something like "Hello, World!\n" into
{"Hello, World!", "\n"}L135[18:20:58] <Z0idberg>
Izaya: Maybe I am just insane
<Z0idberg>
Izaya: Maybe I am just insaneL136[18:22:35] <Z0idberg>
I could rewrite this a little to be less uh
<Z0idberg>
I could rewrite this a little to be less uhL137[18:22:36] <Z0idberg>
confusig
<Z0idberg>
confusigL138[18:22:41] <Z0idberg>
confusing [Edited]
<Z0idberg>
confusing [Edited]L139[18:23:48] <Kodos>
%sip
<Kodos>
%sipL140[18:23:49] <MichiBot> You drink a
mutable ocean potion (New!). Kodos turns into a toad until they use
"Classic" in a sentence.
L141[18:24:01] <Z0idberg>
Well that's classioc
<Z0idberg>
Well that's classiocL142[18:24:05] <Z0idberg>
Well that's classic [Edited]
<Z0idberg>
Well that's classic [Edited]L143[18:29:10] <Ocawesome101> @Z0idberg that is a very
interesting method of doing printing
<Ocawesome101> @Z0idberg that is a very
interesting method of doing printingL145[18:29:50] <Z0idberg>
fixed the tokenize paste
<Z0idberg>
fixed the tokenize pasteL146[18:29:59] <Z0idberg>
Did you notice that every one of those functions except for put()
is recursive?
<Z0idberg>
Did you notice that every one of those functions except for put()
is recursive?L147[18:30:00] <Z0idberg>
😄
<Z0idberg>
😄L148[18:30:32] <Z0idberg>
recursively generate tokens, recursively process tokens, and
recursively print chunks of string tokens, splitting them by the
edge of the screen.
<Z0idberg>
recursively generate tokens, recursively process tokens, and
recursively print chunks of string tokens, splitting them by the
edge of the screen.L149[18:31:00] <Z0idberg>
It is also fast enough that the performance impact is
negligible.
<Z0idberg>
It is also fast enough that the performance impact is
negligible.L150[18:31:26] <Ocawesome101> neat
<Ocawesome101> neatL151[18:32:02] <Z0idberg>
I'm going to redo it and clean it up but uh, the full source is
here if you ever needed a bare gpu print: https://github.com/bhodgins/trotwood/blob/master/lib/gtty.lua#L137
<Z0idberg>
I'm going to redo it and clean it up but uh, the full source is
here if you ever needed a bare gpu print: https://github.com/bhodgins/trotwood/blob/master/lib/gtty.lua#L137L152[18:32:12] <Z0idberg>
I don't think it has scrollback functionality or anything at that
commit
<Z0idberg>
I don't think it has scrollback functionality or anything at that
commitL153[18:32:17] <Z0idberg>
I'm pretty sure I lost those commits
<Z0idberg>
I'm pretty sure I lost those commitsL154[18:32:41] <Ocawesome101> for cynosure 2 i'm doing
vt100, where speed is everything because string ops are slow, and i
want the vt100 layer to be as fast as possible because i don't plan
to let userspace access the gpu directly without root
privileges
<Ocawesome101> for cynosure 2 i'm doing
vt100, where speed is everything because string ops are slow, and i
want the vt100 layer to be as fast as possible because i don't plan
to let userspace access the gpu directly without root
privilegesL155[18:33:05] <lunar_sam>
over LTE
<lunar_sam>
over LTEL157[18:33:08] <Ocawesome101> OG cynosure's vt100
emulator is reasonably fast, but its buffering system slows it
down
<Ocawesome101> OG cynosure's vt100
emulator is reasonably fast, but its buffering system slows it
downL158[18:33:16] <Z0idberg>
vt100 would be kinda cool
<Z0idberg>
vt100 would be kinda coolL159[18:33:19] <lunar_sam>
thank you for out of order post
<lunar_sam>
thank you for out of order postL160[18:33:21] <Ocawesome101> vt100 is very nice
<Ocawesome101> vt100 is very niceL161[18:33:34] <lunar_sam>
tsuki is still in a state of Maybe Soon(tm)
<lunar_sam>
tsuki is still in a state of Maybe Soon(tm)L162[18:33:43] <Ocawesome101> vt100 is a requirement for
a unix-like :P
<Ocawesome101> vt100 is a requirement for
a unix-like :PL163[18:33:57] <lunar_sam>
i wanna have Tsuki run on some sort of VM so i can use it in both
OC and on a real computer :P
<lunar_sam>
i wanna have Tsuki run on some sort of VM so i can use it in both
OC and on a real computer :PL164[18:34:09] <Ocawesome101> if i can get a vt100
emulator to run TLE then i'm happy, generally
<Ocawesome101> if i can get a vt100
emulator to run TLE then i'm happy, generallyL165[18:34:16] <Ocawesome101> heh
<Ocawesome101> hehL166[18:34:17] <Ocawesome101> luPPC
<Ocawesome101> luPPCL167[18:34:26] <lunar_sam>
nah
<lunar_sam>
nahL168[18:34:32] <lunar_sam>
that's not crackheaded enough for sam
<lunar_sam>
that's not crackheaded enough for samL169[18:34:38] <lunar_sam>
sam must overengineer EVERYTHING
<lunar_sam>
sam must overengineer EVERYTHINGL170[18:34:41] <Ocawesome101> just
<Ocawesome101> justL171[18:34:51] <Ocawesome101> fix the luPPC issue that
makes ULOS fucking die
<Ocawesome101> fix the luPPC issue that
makes ULOS fucking dieL172[18:34:59] <lunar_sam>
lmao
<lunar_sam>
lmaoL173[18:35:03] <lunar_sam>
xd
<lunar_sam>
xdL174[18:35:03] <Ocawesome101> and then use it for
tsuki
<Ocawesome101> and then use it for
tsukiL175[18:35:16] <lunar_sam>
but then i can't multithread :^)
<lunar_sam>
but then i can't multithread :^)L176[18:35:27] <lunar_sam>
thats kinda important for dumb things i want to do
<lunar_sam>
thats kinda important for dumb things i want to doL178[18:35:43] <lunar_sam>
i mean
<lunar_sam>
i meanL179[18:35:46] <lunar_sam>
SMP
<lunar_sam>
SMPL180[18:35:48] <lunar_sam>
:^)
<lunar_sam>
:^)L181[18:35:53] <Ocawesome101> yeah, yeah, w/e
<Ocawesome101> yeah, yeah, w/eL182[18:35:55] <Ocawesome101> :P
<Ocawesome101> :PL183[18:35:57] <lunar_sam>
:P
<lunar_sam>
:PL184[18:36:07] <lunar_sam>
sam has aggressively dumb ideas
<lunar_sam>
sam has aggressively dumb ideasL186[18:36:35] <Ocawesome101> it just randomly does this
sometimes
<Ocawesome101> it just randomly does this
sometimesL187[18:36:48] <lunar_sam>
anyways, i have an idea i could fairly easily implement
<lunar_sam>
anyways, i have an idea i could fairly easily implementL188[18:36:59] <lunar_sam>
the hard part is making a C compiler for it
<lunar_sam>
the hard part is making a C compiler for itL189[18:37:07] <Z0idberg>
I forget who expressed interest in my progress on Trotwood the
other day, mayube it was @Forecaster but I think that I might just
have the initiative to continue working on it after looking at some
of this. Redo a couple things while Iam at it
<Z0idberg>
I forget who expressed interest in my progress on Trotwood the
other day, mayube it was @Forecaster but I think that I might just
have the initiative to continue working on it after looking at some
of this. Redo a couple things while Iam at itL190[18:37:07] <lunar_sam>
~~i could also just use nelua~~
<lunar_sam>
~~i could also just use nelua~~L191[18:37:21] <Z0idberg>
It all depends if I get the job I'm going for next week
<Z0idberg>
It all depends if I get the job I'm going for next weekL192[18:37:22] <lunar_sam>
whoa zoidberg has a new pfp
<lunar_sam>
whoa zoidberg has a new pfpL193[18:37:55] <Ocawesome101> so is your new plan for
tsuki to have it run in a VM, and then write implementations of
that VM for both OC and for bare hardware?
<Ocawesome101> so is your new plan for
tsuki to have it run in a VM, and then write implementations of
that VM for both OC and for bare hardware?L194[18:38:01] <Ocawesome101> because if so
<Ocawesome101> because if soL195[18:38:07] <Ocawesome101> that is at once wonderful
and wonderfully cursed
<Ocawesome101> that is at once wonderful
and wonderfully cursedL196[18:38:39] <lunar_sam>
>Ocawesome101: so is your new plan for tsuki to have it …
<lunar_sam>
>Ocawesome101: so is your new plan for tsuki to have it …L197[18:38:40] <lunar_sam>
yes
<lunar_sam>
yesL198[18:38:46] <lunar_sam>
i say VM but
<lunar_sam>
i say VM butL199[18:38:51] <lunar_sam>
it'd be similar to the lua VM
<lunar_sam>
it'd be similar to the lua VML200[18:39:18] <lunar_sam>
much of everything is abstracted away
<lunar_sam>
much of everything is abstracted awayL201[18:39:24] <Ocawesome101> hmmm, my mouth is almost
finally starting to get some feeling back
<Ocawesome101> hmmm, my mouth is almost
finally starting to get some feeling backL202[18:39:24] <lunar_sam>
i'll extend it as need be
<lunar_sam>
i'll extend it as need beL203[18:39:37] <lunar_sam>
i'll probably also have it extendable with native code
<lunar_sam>
i'll probably also have it extendable with native codeL204[18:39:38] <lunar_sam>
:P
<lunar_sam>
:PL205[18:39:39] <Ocawesome101> had a tooth filling earlier
and the dentist numbed the lower front left portion of my jaw
<Ocawesome101> had a tooth filling earlier
and the dentist numbed the lower front left portion of my jawL206[18:39:41] <lunar_sam>
"native"
<lunar_sam>
"native"L207[18:39:43] <Ocawesome101> well that's cirsed
<Ocawesome101> well that's cirsedL208[18:39:44] <Ocawesome101> cursed
<Ocawesome101> cursedL209[18:40:00] <lunar_sam>
simply load a VELX for hardware i/o
<lunar_sam>
simply load a VELX for hardware i/oL210[18:40:07] <Ocawesome101> but this seems similar to
@Z0idberg's OS idea?
<Ocawesome101> but this seems similar to
@Z0idberg's OS idea?L211[18:40:21] <lunar_sam>
i just want tsuki in both OC and on real hardware tbh
<lunar_sam>
i just want tsuki in both OC and on real hardware tbhL212[18:40:23] <lunar_sam>
:P
<lunar_sam>
:PL213[18:41:41] <Ocawesome101> the only thing i see
possibly being an issue is performance and memory usage in OC
<Ocawesome101> the only thing i see
possibly being an issue is performance and memory usage in OCL214[18:41:53] <lunar_sam>
performance should be fine
<lunar_sam>
performance should be fineL215[18:42:00] ⇦
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L216[18:42:04] <lunar_sam>
i can do awful things to get the performance i want
<lunar_sam>
i can do awful things to get the performance i wantL217[18:42:13] <lunar_sam>
`i hope you like if/else chains`
<lunar_sam>
`i hope you like if/else chains`L218[18:42:15] <Ocawesome101> chuckles nervously
<Ocawesome101> chuckles nervouslyL219[18:42:30] <Ocawesome101> for large numbers of
comparisons table lookups are faster
<Ocawesome101> for large numbers of
comparisons table lookups are fasterL220[18:42:33] <Ocawesome101> i benchmarked it
<Ocawesome101> i benchmarked itL221[18:42:33] <lunar_sam>
as for memory, that might be a bigger problem
<lunar_sam>
as for memory, that might be a bigger problemL222[18:42:36] <lunar_sam>
oh really?
<lunar_sam>
oh really?L223[18:42:40] <lunar_sam>
neat
<lunar_sam>
neatL224[18:42:59] <lunar_sam>
i guess that makes sense
<lunar_sam>
i guess that makes senseL225[18:43:06] <lunar_sam>
too bad there's no switch statement
<lunar_sam>
too bad there's no switch statementL226[18:43:13] <lunar_sam>
switch would be great for this
<lunar_sam>
switch would be great for thisL227[18:43:15] <Ocawesome101> if you're looking for the
128th thing, a table lookup for `tab["128"]` takes ~2s
over 2^27 iterations, and an if/else chain takes 30s if 128 is the
last element
<Ocawesome101> if you're looking for the
128th thing, a table lookup for `tab["128"]` takes ~2s
over 2^27 iterations, and an if/else chain takes 30s if 128 is the
last elementL228[18:43:24] <Ocawesome101> for 2^27 iterations
<Ocawesome101> for 2^27 iterationsL229[18:43:31] <lunar_sam>
oh yeah, and if i'm just
<lunar_sam>
oh yeah, and if i'm justL230[18:43:34] <lunar_sam>
using the array part
<lunar_sam>
using the array partL231[18:43:37] <lunar_sam>
it's probably even faster
<lunar_sam>
it's probably even fasterL232[18:43:54] <Ocawesome101> probably slightly,
yes
<Ocawesome101> probably slightly,
yesL233[18:46:38] <lunar_sam>
honestly, the hard part is coming up with how to store certain
things
<lunar_sam>
honestly, the hard part is coming up with how to store certain
thingsL234[18:46:40] <lunar_sam>
lmao
<lunar_sam>
lmaoL235[18:47:23] <lunar_sam>
oh wait, cursed idea time, types are referenced by pointers to
their def data structure
<lunar_sam>
oh wait, cursed idea time, types are referenced by pointers to
their def data structureL236[18:48:02] <Z0idberg>
@Ocawesome101 @lunar_sam and I bounce ideas off eachother all the
time even elsewhere than here, so you shouldn't be surprised that
some of the concepts are similar sometimes.
<Z0idberg>
@Ocawesome101 @lunar_sam and I bounce ideas off eachother all the
time even elsewhere than here, so you shouldn't be surprised that
some of the concepts are similar sometimes.L237[18:48:03] <Z0idberg>
😄
<Z0idberg>
😄L238[18:48:12] <lunar_sam> :P
L239[18:48:18] <lunar_sam> that's probably
why i decided this was a good idea
L240[18:48:31] <Z0idberg>
our projects have different use case goals though
<Z0idberg>
our projects have different use case goals thoughL241[18:48:45] <lunar_sam> that's how
these things usually are
L242[18:48:49] <Z0idberg>
the problem my OS tries to solve is kind of specific
<Z0idberg>
the problem my OS tries to solve is kind of specificL243[18:48:50] <lunar_sam> similar ideas,
different goals
L244[18:49:00] <CompanionCube> if I/O is
slow, perhaps a block-oriented terminal might be useful?
L245[18:50:10] <lunar_sam> hmm, how will i
define primative types, though?
L246[18:50:16] <lunar_sam> ah yes, i
know
L247[18:50:25] <lunar_sam> preprocessor
time
L248[18:50:41] <lunar_sam> time for sam to
do cursed things
L249[18:50:47] <CompanionCube> oh no
L250[18:50:52] <Z0idberg>
lol
<Z0idberg>
lolL251[18:50:57] <lunar_sam> THERE IS NO
SAFE CASTING
L252[18:51:01] <lunar_sam> FUCK AROUND AND
FIND OUT
L253[18:51:10] <lunar_sam> IT'S ALL INTS,
ALL THE WAY DOWN
L254[18:51:13] <Z0idberg>
void casting to void pointer pointers
<Z0idberg>
void casting to void pointer pointersL255[18:51:45] <lunar_sam> anyways
L256[18:51:49] <lunar_sam> sam needs to
shower
L257[18:51:52] <lunar_sam> :)
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L260[18:52:11] <Inari> %sip
L261[18:52:12] <MichiBot> You drink a
thick tuna potion (New!). A warp zone opens up next to Inari. (Use
%warp to jump in)
L262[18:52:16] <Inari> %warp
L263[18:52:17] <MichiBot> You end up in a
dimension that is just an endless field of flowers.
L264[18:52:20] <Inari> nice
L265[18:52:36] <Amanda> %splash Inari with
mutable tuna potion
L266[18:52:43] *
Inari makes a flower crown to stick on her tail
L267[18:52:46] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable tuna potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns
into a lizard until they have an apple.
L268[18:52:52] <Inari> rude
L269[18:53:01] <Inari> %splash Amanda
mutable potion
L270[18:53:08] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable chocolate potion (New!) that splashes onto Amanda. Amanda
turns into a cyan unicorn girl until they see a star fall.
L271[19:10:58] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL272[19:10:59] <MichiBot> Huzzah!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 12 hours, 19
minutes and 19 seconds (By 13 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L273[19:11:00] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points!
plus 0.022 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
4.3296901, Position #2 Need 0.38139254 more points to pass
Vaur!
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L275[19:15:43] <Ocawesome101> >Z0idberg:
<@!563866872702042132> <@!175686996461617162…
<Ocawesome101> >Z0idberg:
<@!563866872702042132> <@!175686996461617162…L276[19:15:43] <Ocawesome101> ah, this makes sense
<Ocawesome101> ah, this makes senseL277[19:18:15] <lunar_sam>
hm
<lunar_sam>
hmL278[19:18:20] <lunar_sam>
not sure when i can reboot my pinephone after flashing manjaro
phosh
<lunar_sam>
not sure when i can reboot my pinephone after flashing manjaro
phoshL279[19:18:30] <lunar_sam>
jumpdrive be wacky
<lunar_sam>
jumpdrive be wackyL280[19:19:07] <Ocawesome101> once you've `dd`'d it and
unmounted it
<Ocawesome101> once you've `dd`'d it and
unmounted itL281[19:19:48] <lunar_sam>
sec
<lunar_sam>
secL282[19:19:52] <lunar_sam>
unmounting the mmc
<lunar_sam>
unmounting the mmcL283[19:20:58] <lunar_sam>
whoa
<lunar_sam>
whoaL284[19:21:03] <lunar_sam>
it has a fancy loading screen now
<lunar_sam>
it has a fancy loading screen nowL285[19:21:04] <lunar_sam>
:o
<lunar_sam>
:oL286[19:22:09] <Ocawesome101> fancy like how fancy?
<Ocawesome101> fancy like how fancy?L287[19:22:17] <Ocawesome101> like manjaro logo +
spinner?
<Ocawesome101> like manjaro logo +
spinner?L288[19:23:24] <Ocawesome101> or like custom phosh logo
fancy
<Ocawesome101> or like custom phosh logo
fancyL289[19:25:17]
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L291[19:25:35] <lunar_sam>
yea, manjaro logo
<lunar_sam>
yea, manjaro logoL292[19:31:18] <Kristopher38> >Z0idberg: I forget who
expressed interest in my progre…
<Kristopher38> >Z0idberg: I forget who
expressed interest in my progre…L293[19:31:18] <Kristopher38> i was one of the people
that expressed interest
<Kristopher38> i was one of the people
that expressed interestL294[19:32:34] <Z0idberg>
ah
<Z0idberg>
ahL295[19:32:42] <Z0idberg>
well I'm looking into some optimizations now
<Z0idberg>
well I'm looking into some optimizations nowL296[19:38:18] <lunar_sam>
hm
<lunar_sam>
hmL297[19:38:22] <lunar_sam>
does the hotspot work
<lunar_sam>
does the hotspot workL298[19:39:05] <Ocawesome101> on arch phosh i've had it
mostly work
<Ocawesome101> on arch phosh i've had it
mostly workL299[19:39:08] <Ocawesome101> on arch plasma not so
much
<Ocawesome101> on arch plasma not so
muchL300[19:39:50] <lunar_sam>
let's see if it works on majaro phosh
<lunar_sam>
let's see if it works on majaro phoshL301[19:40:14] <lunar_sam>
very good
<lunar_sam>
very goodL302[19:40:23] <lunar_sam>
now i wonder if i can use discord through anbox or something
:P
<lunar_sam>
now i wonder if i can use discord through anbox or something
:PL303[19:40:40] <Ocawesome101> waydroid
<Ocawesome101> waydroidL304[19:40:44] <Ocawesome101> use waydroid
<Ocawesome101> use waydroidL305[19:40:48] <lunar_sam>
hm?
<lunar_sam>
hm?L306[19:41:35] <Ocawesome101> waydroid is anbox but
better - it translates graphics calls to wayland-native stuff, so
it actually runs reasonably well on the pinephone
<Ocawesome101> waydroid is anbox but
better - it translates graphics calls to wayland-native stuff, so
it actually runs reasonably well on the pinephoneL307[19:41:42] <lunar_sam>
ah
<lunar_sam>
ahL308[19:41:48] <lunar_sam>
does it crash a bunch
<lunar_sam>
does it crash a bunchL309[19:41:49] <lunar_sam>
lmao
<lunar_sam>
lmaoL310[19:42:04] <Ocawesome101> it was quite stable for
me
<Ocawesome101> it was quite stable for
meL311[19:42:11] <Ocawesome101> but i didn't really try
much
<Ocawesome101> but i didn't really try
muchL312[19:45:59] <lunar_sam> very good
L313[19:46:11] <lunar_sam> i can now use
my pinephone for this
L314[19:46:42] <lunar_sam> now all i need
is usb tethering for my desktop
L315[19:47:06] <lunar_sam> wait i can use
the dock
L316[19:52:59] <lunar_sam> downloading
packages is painfully slow
L317[19:55:13] <Ocawesome101> yeah the pinephone wifi
card is rather shit
<Ocawesome101> yeah the pinephone wifi
card is rather shitL318[19:56:12] <lunar_sam> yes
L319[19:56:20] <lunar_sam> tho this is
modem
L320[19:56:24] <lunar_sam> LTE
moment
L321[19:58:22] <lunar_sam> @Ocawesome101
does VoLTE work
L322[19:58:28] <Ocawesome101> no clue
<Ocawesome101> no clueL323[19:58:34] <Ocawesome101> actually
<Ocawesome101> actuallyL324[19:58:34] <lunar_sam> nice
L325[19:58:35] <Ocawesome101> i think it does
<Ocawesome101> i think it doesL326[19:58:39] <lunar_sam> oh
L327[19:58:40] <lunar_sam> sickk
L328[19:58:42] <Ocawesome101> if you whisper the right
magic words
<Ocawesome101> if you whisper the right
magic wordsL329[19:58:50] <lunar_sam> better than my
old phone then
L330[19:59:01] <lunar_sam> lol
L331[20:45:11] <lunar_sam> test
L332[20:46:46] <lunar_sam> v good
L333[20:47:50] <Amanda> v very good, d
bad
L334[20:47:57] *
Amanda nods lesbianly
L335[21:03:54] <dequbed> %bap Amanda
L336[21:03:56] <MichiBot> dequbed baps
Amanda with relay!
L337[21:04:35] <Amanda> D: rude!
L338[21:05:30] <Ariri>
%pat dequbed
<Ariri>
%pat dequbedL339[21:05:35] <Ariri>
%pat Amanda
<Ariri>
%pat AmandaL340[21:05:46] <Ariri> i
always forget
<Ariri> i
always forgetL341[21:05:48] <Ariri>
¯\(ツ)/¯
<Ariri>
¯\(ツ)/¯L342[21:06:26] <Michiyo>
%pet @Ariri
<Michiyo>
%pet @AririL343[21:06:28] <MichiBot> Michiyo is
brushing @Ariri with the keys to a BRAND NEW CZAR!. @Ariri regains
1d4 => 1 hit points! The keys to a BRAND NEW CZAR! angered a
gnome and didn't put up enough of a fight.
L344[21:06:51] <Ariri>
some bots do pat pet or both
<Ariri>
some bots do pat pet or bothL345[21:06:51] <Ariri> i
forgor
<Ariri> i
forgorL346[21:07:01] <Ariri>
also noooo the brand new czar ;(
<Ariri>
also noooo the brand new czar ;(L347[21:07:24] <Ariri>
lost to a garden gnome
<Ariri>
lost to a garden gnomeL348[21:08:09] <dequbed> %pet @Ariri
L349[21:08:10] <MichiBot> dequbed is
brushing @Ariri with java.lang.Object@035f4891. @Ariri regains 1d4
=> 4 hit points! Java.lang.Object@035f4891 is eaten by a
Grue.
L350[21:12:46] <Ariri>
=w=
<Ariri>
=w=L351[21:30:38]
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L353[21:35:41] <Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 The process API has been under debate for quite a
while, and is up for different ideas. This is an example of what it
could look like. What do you think of this and if you wanted
something different, what would it be like?:
<Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 The process API has been under debate for quite a
while, and is up for different ideas. This is an example of what it
could look like. What do you think of this and if you wanted
something different, what would it be like?:L355[21:36:04] <Z0idberg>
this would be a library you could use to make message handling a
lot easier
<Z0idberg>
this would be a library you could use to make message handling a
lot easierL356[21:36:49] <Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 The process API has been under debate for quite a
while, and is up for different ideas. This is an example of what it
could look like. What do you think of this and if you wanted
something different, what would it be like?:
<Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 The process API has been under debate for quite a
while, and is up for different ideas. This is an example of what it
could look like. What do you think of this and if you wanted
something different, what would it be like?:L358[21:37:37] <Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 The process API has been under debate for quite a
while, and is up for different ideas. This is an example of what it
could look like. What do you think of this and if you wanted
something different, what would it be like?:
<Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 The process API has been under debate for quite a
while, and is up for different ideas. This is an example of what it
could look like. What do you think of this and if you wanted
something different, what would it be like?:L360[21:37:58] <Kristopher38> I think I lack some bigger
context
<Kristopher38> I think I lack some bigger
contextL361[21:38:12] <Z0idberg>
this is what it could look like if I made it more BEAM like
<Z0idberg>
this is what it could look like if I made it more BEAM likeL362[21:38:38] <Z0idberg>
you create a public API of functions and then create callbacks for
messages
<Z0idberg>
you create a public API of functions and then create callbacks for
messagesL363[21:38:51] <Kristopher38> and experience with
interprocess communication, probably
<Kristopher38> and experience with
interprocess communication, probablyL364[21:38:52] <Z0idberg>
(This is how IPC works)
<Z0idberg>
(This is how IPC works)L365[21:39:04] <Z0idberg>
IPC is a big part of Trotwood
<Z0idberg>
IPC is a big part of TrotwoodL366[21:39:25] <Z0idberg>
since processes are constantly sending messages to one another, so
I'm trying to play out different methods of making it simple but
not limited
<Z0idberg>
since processes are constantly sending messages to one another, so
I'm trying to play out different methods of making it simple but
not limitedL367[21:41:06] <Kristopher38> sorry I can't offer much
advice, in the sense that I don't know if it will work well or not,
it looks reasonable and alright to me but you having more context
and experience probably means you can see the larger picture
<Kristopher38> sorry I can't offer much
advice, in the sense that I don't know if it will work well or not,
it looks reasonable and alright to me but you having more context
and experience probably means you can see the larger pictureL368[21:41:21] <lunar_sam>
Haha
<lunar_sam>
HahaL369[21:41:26] <Kristopher38> what are other approaches
you could do?
<Kristopher38> what are other approaches
you could do?L370[21:41:29] <lunar_sam>
Discord on the pinephone werks
<lunar_sam>
Discord on the pinephone werksL371[21:42:39] <Z0idberg>
This module above would let you do something like this in a lua
shell:
<Z0idberg>
This module above would let you do something like this in a lua
shell:L373[21:44:44] <Kristopher38> or rather it should print
"Test message: Hello, World?", right?
<Kristopher38> or rather it should print
"Test message: Hello, World?", right?L374[21:48:47] <Kristopher38> so if the system is
potentially running on two physically separate machines, I could
write two modules like the one above to handle messages as if they
were processes, and the OS would handle passing the actual messages
over the network?
<Kristopher38> so if the system is
potentially running on two physically separate machines, I could
write two modules like the one above to handle messages as if they
were processes, and the OS would handle passing the actual messages
over the network?L375[21:58:15] <Z0idberg>
Not at all
<Z0idberg>
Not at allL376[21:58:44] <Z0idberg>
If two trotwood machines are configured to be on the same
"node group" then all of the files on every machine are
available to eachother in that group, @Kristopher38
<Z0idberg>
If two trotwood machines are configured to be on the same
"node group" then all of the files on every machine are
available to eachother in that group, @Kristopher38L377[21:58:49] <Z0idberg>
the disk space is shared amongst them
<Z0idberg>
the disk space is shared amongst themL378[21:59:17] <Z0idberg>
all you have to do is tell which nodes to start that process, as
many on them and as many times as you want
<Z0idberg>
all you have to do is tell which nodes to start that process, as
many on them and as many times as you wantL379[21:59:46] <Z0idberg>
so you'd only have to write it once
<Z0idberg>
so you'd only have to write it onceL380[22:00:05] <Z0idberg>
Trotwood will do the rest
<Z0idberg>
Trotwood will do the restL381[22:02:46] <Kristopher38> >Z0idberg:
<@!216561561978929152> The process API has b…
<Kristopher38> >Z0idberg:
<@!216561561978929152> The process API has b…L382[22:02:46] <Kristopher38> you have to define one
module like this per process, right?
<Kristopher38> you have to define one
module like this per process, right?L383[22:03:00] <Z0idberg>
yeah.
<Z0idberg>
yeah.L384[22:03:08] <Z0idberg>
but you can also make processes without modules
<Z0idberg>
but you can also make processes without modulesL385[22:03:16] <Z0idberg>
the stock spawn function will take a lua string
<Z0idberg>
the stock spawn function will take a lua stringL386[22:03:59] <Z0idberg>
having a module or file or library to encase your process in is
just to make it easier to keep it in one place
<Z0idberg>
having a module or file or library to encase your process in is
just to make it easier to keep it in one placeL387[22:04:06] <Z0idberg>
processes don't follow files
<Z0idberg>
processes don't follow filesL388[22:04:21] <Z0idberg>
they just run functions in another coroutine thats it
<Z0idberg>
they just run functions in another coroutine thats itL389[22:04:28] <Z0idberg>
so really it's like a thread
<Z0idberg>
so really it's like a threadL390[22:15:14] <lunar_sam> neat
L391[22:37:32] <Kodos>
%tonk
<Kodos>
%tonkL392[22:37:36] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Kodos! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 3
hours, 26 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L393[22:37:37] <MichiBot> Kodos's new
record is 3 hours, 26 minutes and 37 seconds! Kodos also gained
0.00344 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #12. Need
0.00586 more points to pass bauen1!
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