L1[00:13:35] <Amanda> %oclogs

L2[00:14:35] <MichiBot> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/?dir=logs/%23oc

L4[00:16:57] <Amanda> @Z0idberg haha systemd bad funnee

L5[00:18:53] <Amanda> More seriously: fun thing happen. Power blipped back home, Miranda and networking software rebooted. Bring with it a networking update, which now no-longer serves DNS records for hosts assigned a static IP, burning down my entire network in the orocess

L6[00:20:10] <Amanda> Sure is a great thing to have happen when however many hundreds of miles away, off the coast of FL

L7[00:21:29] <Amanda> On the up side, I now know the WoL beacon on my rpi back home works flawlesslt

L10[01:13:20] <luna​r_sam> mmmm

L11[01:13:32] <luna​r_sam> VELXv2 loader in Nelua

L12[01:13:50] <luna​r_sam> >`sudo pacman -Syu`

L13[01:14:06] <luna​r_sam> >Total Download Size: 4053.91 MiB

L14[01:14:22] <luna​r_sam> >Total Installed Size: `13797.49MiB`

L15[01:14:24] <luna​r_sam> kill me

L16[01:14:32] <luna​r_sam> this is why you stay up to date

L17[01:25:04] <luna​r_sam> hm

L18[01:25:13] <luna​r_sam> how can i get a C compiler which support VELX

L19[01:25:28] <luna​r_sam> i say get

L20[01:25:30] <luna​r_sam> but

L21[01:25:30] <luna​r_sam> make

L22[01:31:53] <Amanda> step one: Destroy the hyperatomic plane

L23[01:37:04] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap time or go back to stabbing the gibson

L24[01:37:06] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I received a message from future you, said to go with "laptop nap time".

L25[01:37:16] <CompanionCube> inb4 VELX LLVM backend

L27[01:38:00] <Amanda> stop using that temporal lense, MichiBot, it's bad for your healtn, and if you try and change too much, the malevolent universe will dislike that

L28[01:38:48] <CompanionCube> more seriously, something like tinycc would probably be easier to rejigger?

L29[01:49:58] <luna​r_sam> CC: i'm looking at both TCC and LLVM

L30[01:50:51] <luna​r_sam> i wanna use LLVM for other purposes (mainly compiling from IR to machine code at runtime)

L31[01:51:52] <luna​r_sam> either way, i'm using them as the last step in a chain

L32[01:52:10] <luna​r_sam> since i plan on compiling from nelua to VELX

L33[01:52:46] <luna​r_sam> VELX is simply an exec format

L34[01:53:00] <luna​r_sam> just has a lot of wacky features

L35[01:53:40] <luna​r_sam> i'll also probably need to throw together my own linker, which is

L36[01:53:40] <luna​r_sam> pain

L37[01:54:07] <luna​r_sam> basically, i have to more or less create my own toolchain

L38[01:55:09] <luna​r_sam> but hey, once i have the tools, i can make wacky crazy stuff

L39[01:55:53] <lunar_sam> 'course, some tools will be easier to make than others

L40[01:56:16] <lunar_sam> a tool to make velx objs from like

L41[01:56:23] <lunar_sam> archives and lua scripts is fairly simple

L42[01:56:46] <lunar_sam> just wrap the file with velx metadata

L43[01:57:55] <lunar_sam> man, this is annoying

L44[01:58:31] <lunar_sam> my monitor doesn't support the VGA text mode my P3 machine wants

L45[02:02:00] <lunar_sam> heh, win2k works

L46[02:03:27] <Ko​dos> %tonkout

L47[02:03:31] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Ko​dos! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 38 minutes and 46 seconds (By 22 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L48[02:03:32] <MichiBot> Ko​dos has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.06613, Position #13 => #12 (Overtook SquidDev) Need 0.01338 more points to pass bau​en1!

L49[02:30:32] <Wat​tana> https://tinyurl.com/y6c8jqjx

L50[02:30:32] <Wat​tana> my hands hurt

L51[02:35:17] <Amanda> %choose irradiate or read about the hugs that hiveminds give?

L52[02:35:19] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I received a message from future you, said to go with "read about the hugs that hiveminds give".

L56[04:13:29] <luna​r_sam> w stands aWoooooooooooooooo

L57[04:15:00] <Ne​uro> freedom dive, the classic

L58[04:20:09] <Amanda> Well then, that's a disturbing thought. Take the ship of Theseus thought experiment, apply it to a self-replicating give mind

L59[04:20:32] <Amanda> Give*

L60[04:20:37] <Amanda> Hive**

L61[05:01:17] <luna​r_sam> hm

L62[05:01:24] <luna​r_sam> how do jank velx support into tcc

L63[05:18:30] <luna​r_sam> hmmm

L64[05:18:38] <luna​r_sam> this is gonna be a bit harder than i first thought

L66[06:06:25] <CompanionCube> i mean, if it's just an executable format i'd start with the linker

L67[06:07:32] <CompanionCube> it's gonna be simpler than the compiler and it means you have a specific thing to be targeting when outputing code

L68[06:10:14] <Va​ur> %tonk

L69[06:10:17] <MichiBot> Yay! Va​ur! You beat Ko​dos's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 6 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L70[06:10:18] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 6 minutes and 47 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00411 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.

L71[06:10:20] <CompanionCube> (though simply bolting on a new output format probably only needs minimal poking at the actual backend)

L72[06:12:26] <CompanionCube> https://earth.cheap/#faq also this exists but idunno if it's a Modest Proposal or srsbsns

L76[06:52:54] <Va​ur> >CompanionCube: https://earth.cheap/#faq also this e…

L77[06:52:54] <Va​ur> oh fuck ... another one ?

L79[06:54:18] <Izaya> I love this attitude

L80[06:54:26] <Izaya> > Some laws in certain jurisdictions may need to change, but that can be solved by applying the right amount of money to the affected government.

L82[06:55:28] <Izaya> this reads like a joke so I assume it is but I've seen that attitude from NFT victims before and like

L83[06:55:37] <Izaya> yeah just admit your plan hinges on bribery real classy

L84[06:57:10] <Va​ur> >Izaya: this reads like a joke so I assume i…

L85[06:57:11] <Va​ur> yeah it looks like a joke, until you find people that are ready to defend that project even if it has nothing to show for it. \cough earth2 \cough

L87[07:05:57] <CompanionCube> on the other side, it would be funny to try and bait ancaps/libertarians into giving them all of their monies.

L88[07:06:45] <CompanionCube> joke or not, it is a very good example of the main reason i want bitcoin to die in a fire.

L91[07:18:54] <Ne​uro> Obvious shitpost to me

L92[07:19:21] <Ne​uro> I mean:

L93[07:19:22] <Ne​uro> "Is this a smart contract?"

L94[07:19:22] <Ne​uro> "Yes, a very smart contract"

L95[07:19:30] <Ne​uro> Like lol that's fucking hilay

L96[07:19:36] <Ne​uro> Like lol that's fucking hilarious [Edited]

L97[07:20:47] <Ne​uro> "same consumer protections as the underlying Blockchain" yeah this shit is trollin

L102[08:40:10] <Ash​irg> %sip

L103[08:40:12] <MichiBot> You drink a seeping copper potion (New!). Ashirg remembers an important appointment.

L106[09:55:30] <Che​soku> I'm trying to write a program that loops indefinitely and checks for if a floppy is inserted into a drive, then does something if one is found. So far I have this function to check a given directory for folders;

L107[09:55:31] <Che​soku> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/avuzacetuq

L108[09:55:31] <Che​soku> I am calling scandir("/mnt/") every loop, and I have written my program thus far to check if a new drive is inserted or not. The issue, is that, even running scandir multiple times, it only seems to return the directories within /mnt/ that were there when the program was first run. IE: I have a floppy inserted when the program starts, and take the floppy out, it'll keep showing the drive being there even if it's not anymore. I feel like I'm

L109[09:55:31] <Che​soku> probably missing something important or obvious here Anyone have any input on the matter?

L110[09:56:25] <Izaya> you could listen for component_added events instead

L111[09:57:03] <Che​soku> oh. i feel silly now.

L112[09:57:06] <Che​soku> Thank you lol.

L113[11:11:55] <Forec​aster> `Should we exceed our goal amount we will attempt to purchase other Earths, in ascending order of price, as technology and humanity's understanding of astrophysics allows.`

L114[11:11:59] <Forec​aster> Optimistic

L115[11:14:58] <Va​ur> %tonkout

L116[11:14:59] <MichiBot> Holy mermaid scale Batman! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 6 minutes and 47 seconds (By 57 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L117[11:15:00] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 4.67952264, Position #1

L119[13:28:45] <Forec​aster> %tonk

L120[13:28:47] <MichiBot> Geez! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 13 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L121[13:28:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 13 minutes and 47 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00223 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.42784254 more points to pass Va​ur!

L122[14:22:19] <Forec​aster> %sip

L123[14:22:20] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating weather potion (New!). Forecaster remembers an important appointment.

L124[14:22:37] <Forec​aster> I have an appointment with food

L125[14:22:54] <Forec​aster> But I'm stuck in traffic >:

L126[14:39:44] <Z0id​berg> WHY ARE YOU DISCORDING IN TRAFFIC

L127[15:18:00] <Forec​aster> There had been an accident a ways ahead and traffic was at a complete standstill

L128[15:18:29] <Forec​aster> They were alternating traffic through half of the remaining roundabout

L129[15:18:55] <Forec​aster> Now I'm in a drive-through

L130[15:35:16] <Z0id​berg> ...

L131[15:35:39] <Z0id​berg> People who use their cell phones and crap when they aren't moving in their cars

L132[15:35:43] <Z0id​berg> but still in a drive lane

L133[15:36:36] <Z0id​berg> These people are the reason why it takes 3 red lights to get onto a particular onramp at rush hour, because when the light goes green it takes them 10 seconds to realize the light is green

L134[15:37:59] <Z0id​berg> Sometimes it will go green and 3 cars get to go through, and you wonder why when it turns yellow and goes to red that a few cars there will literally drive onto the sidewalk, pass people, drive through a redlight and take their turn before the light is full green on the other side

L135[15:38:30] <Z0id​berg> because people are too occupied with their online lives or socializing with people to focus on the task at hand which is called driving

L136[15:42:52] <Ash​irg> %sip

L137[15:42:53] <MichiBot> You drink a porous stainless steel potion (New!). Ashirg's nose vanish until they have A Shiny Solarium potion.

L138[17:03:57] <Ko​dos> %tonk

L139[17:03:59] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! Ko​dos! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 13 minutes and 47 seconds (By 1 hour, 21 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L140[17:04:00] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 3 hours, 35 minutes and 11 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.00408 (0.00136 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #12. Need 0.0093 more points to pass bau​en1!

L141[17:15:50] <Izaya> %tell Ariri https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/90048153

L142[17:15:53] <MichiBot> Iz​aya: Ariri will be notified of this message when next seen.

L143[17:24:41] <Ash​irg> %sio

L144[17:24:45] <Ash​irg> %sip

L145[17:24:46] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy cerulium potion (New!). After drinking the potion Ashirg notices a label that says "Side effects may include giggle fits and excessive monologuing."

L148[17:30:05] <Ocawes​ome101> cynosure 2's buffering should be a lot faster than cynosure's

L149[17:30:08] <Ocawes​ome101> cynosure 2's buffering should be a lot faster than OG cynosure's [Edited]

L150[17:30:24] <Ocawes​ome101> it does far fewer string operations

L152[17:49:14] <lunar_sam> very good

L153[17:50:13] <Ocawes​ome101> this should help performance kind of everywhere, particularly in the TTY

L154[17:50:27] <lunar_sam> *very* good

L155[17:50:29] <Ocawes​ome101> since i know the TTY code itself is much faster than anything else but in practice it doesn't stack up to that

L156[17:50:42] <Ocawes​ome101> "anything else" = any other TTY i tested

L157[17:51:03] <Ocawes​ome101> and hopefully cynosure 2's tty will be slightly more performant too

L159[18:23:01] <Z0id​berg> it can also help to make TTYs async

L160[18:23:07] <Z0id​berg> if they aren't already

L161[18:23:13] <Z0id​berg> string operations and splicing is slow

L162[18:23:32] <Z0id​berg> make the TTY process pay for the time it takes to do so

L163[18:24:39] <Ocawes​ome101> i could do that

L164[18:25:02] <Ocawes​ome101> from some basic benchmarks it seems that an if/else chain is nearly 1.75x as fast as a lookup table

L165[18:26:10] <Ocawes​ome101> 1.85s for 134M iterations of numerical comparisons and about 2.85s for the same with a lookup table

L166[18:28:53] <Ocawes​ome101> with string comparisons the results are about the same, with slightly longer times for the lookup table

L167[19:22:12] <Amanda> %choose hack the rainbow or spaaace

L168[19:22:12] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "hack the rainbow"

L169[19:30:32] <Ocawes​ome101> https://deadlockempire.github.io

L170[19:39:28] <Amanda> Ah yes, ofc, search.com

L171[19:40:08] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/MtOVakmTQvvZQiuOjKiVsXbq/screenshot-1639424357.png

L174[20:25:59] <Amanda> %choose sweet delicious caffeine or continue hacking the gibson

L175[20:25:59] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "continue hacking the gibson"

L178[21:21:43] <CompanionCube> Izaya: crypto lulz of the day: exchange's crypto gets sanctioned, rip to their users!

L179[22:44:12] <stephan48> exchange as in the MS product? in a crypto exchange? sanctioned?

L180[23:09:14] <CompanionCube> stephan48: crypto exchange, yes

L181[23:09:44] <stephan48> ah and crypto as in money not in technology

L182[23:09:54] <stephan48> s/and/as in/

L183[23:09:56] <MichiBot> <stephan48> ah as in crypto as in money not in technology

L184[23:11:27] <Va​ur> %tonk

L185[23:11:29] <MichiBot> Wah! Va​ur! You beat Ko​dos's previous record of 3 hours, 35 minutes and 11 seconds (By 2 hours, 32 minutes and 18 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L186[23:11:30] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 6 hours, 7 minutes and 29 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.01016 (0.00254 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.