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L1[00:34:40] <Amanda> %tell Inari when are you going to tail-up? It's been eons!
L2[00:35:02] <Amanda> ( Was hoping she'd show up today, oh well )
L3[00:35:14] * Amanda flops down around elfi, does some heccing reading
L4[00:35:39] * Elfi burrows in beside and wingblankets. Sleepy moth
L5[00:35:57] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L6[00:38:45] <Amanda> You okay MichiBot?
L7[00:43:49] <Ocawes​ome101> https://youtu.be/Tctd15uAohg?t=309
L8[00:52:10] <Ko​dos> There we go
L9[00:52:13] <Ko​dos> Got that panel working now
L10[00:52:24] <Ko​dos> Now I just need a way to have these things redraw automatically, instead of needing a refresh key
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L12[01:23:35] <Ko​dos> Remind me how to shift a decimal over
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L15[01:48:24] <Izaya> tonumber, then *10 or /10
L16[02:11:39] * Amanda falls asleep mid-way through reading a chapter to elfi, zzzmews
L17[02:11:41] <Amanda> Night nerds
L18[02:11:49] <Izaya> o/
L19[02:34:51] <Kim​apr> glitch. i just held f and those glitches appear https://tinyurl.com/yh38vydy
L20[02:35:18] <Izaya> too fast for the computer
L21[02:35:20] <Kim​apr> it's as if some of the display changes from the gpu didn't reach the screen
L22[02:35:33] <Kim​apr> lzaya: what?
L23[02:35:52] <Kim​apr> Izaya*
L24[02:36:15] <Izaya> you were too fast for the computer
L25[02:36:18] <Izaya> just a joke
L26[02:36:31] <Kim​apr> yeah
L27[02:36:47] <Izaya> that said if you relog you'll be able to find out whether it's a network issue I imagine
L28[02:36:51] <Kim​apr> this happens when editing too, which makes it much harder
L29[02:37:02] <Kim​apr> the server is literally on my computer
L30[02:37:13] <Izaya> you're not in a cursed setup with multiple computers on one component network or anything are you
L31[02:37:22] <Kim​apr> also minecraft uses tcp, packet drops shouldn't affect it?
L32[02:37:38] <Kim​apr> no, i only have one computer on one network
L33[02:37:44] <Izaya> odd
L34[02:37:47] <Kim​apr> the same thing happens with robots
L35[02:37:58] <Kim​apr> and everything that displays
L36[02:38:03] <Izaya> (also, there's plenty of situations where stuff going over TCP will drop data, but it happens before sending it)
L37[02:38:07] <Kim​apr> hmm, apparently relogging fixed the glitches
L38[02:39:21] <Kim​apr> just catched the glitch again https://tinyurl.com/yzbmm6n4
L39[02:39:35] <Kim​apr> the screen was supposed to be empty but there are leftovers from the shell
L40[02:40:49] <Izaya> no errors in the log about it?
L41[02:41:23] <Kim​apr> i didn't see anything
L42[02:41:33] <Kim​apr> where's the client's log stored?
L43[02:41:42] <Izaya> should all end up in .minecraft/logs IIRC
L44[02:41:47] <Izaya> I just use MultiMC's log viewer \o/
L45[02:42:44] <Kim​apr> there's some error with class tranformer or whatever
L46[02:42:48] <Kim​apr> https://tinyurl.com/yz2vwbnl
L47[02:43:20] <Kim​apr> >Izaya: I just use MultiMC's log viewer \o/
L48[02:43:20] <Kim​apr> i also used my launcher's log viewing capabilities but i decided to shut it down after starting minecraft (saving on ram)
L49[02:43:49] <Izaya> well, best get your latest.log and report it :p
L50[02:43:55] <Izaya> I'm all out of ideas, sorry
L51[02:47:35] <Kim​apr> here are my logs, where do i report this? is reporting here ok?
L52[02:47:35] <Kim​apr> http://ix.io/3D7t
L53[02:48:19] <Kim​apr> or do i have to create an issue on github/lab/whatever
L54[02:54:35] <Ocawes​ome101> @Kimapr what version and build of OC are you using? ex. `1.7.5.192`
L55[02:55:06] <Kim​apr> just updated to the latest stable
L56[02:55:34] <Kim​apr> MC1.12.2-1.7.5.217
L57[02:55:43] <Kim​apr> @Ocawesome101
L58[02:55:58] <Ocawes​ome101> hm
L59[02:56:03] <Ocawes​ome101> did the issue happen previously?
L60[02:56:27] <Ocawes​ome101> do you have OptiFine or anything of that sort installed?
L61[02:56:47] <Kim​apr> yes i have optifine and i did have this happen previously
L62[02:57:15] <Kim​apr> did optifine brek everything?
L63[02:57:55] <Ko​dos> Replicate the bug without optifine
L64[02:58:03] <Ko​dos> Then we'll talk 😉
L65[03:00:51] <Ocawes​ome101> optifine has been known to break things in very strange ways
L66[03:01:05] <Kim​apr> yes bug works without optifine https://tinyurl.com/yj2edu9j
L67[03:01:11] <Kim​apr> but not as well
L68[03:01:50] <Kim​apr> >Kodos: Replicate the bug without optifine
L69[03:01:50] <Kim​apr> .
L70[03:02:47] <Ocawes​ome101> hm
L71[03:02:57] <Ocawes​ome101> what hardware and operating system are you running on?
L72[03:03:19] <Ocawes​ome101> do you happen to be using the LuaJ architecture?
L73[03:04:03] <Kim​apr> >Ocawesome101: do you happen to be using the LuaJ arc…
L74[03:04:04] <Kim​apr> no, using the native lib (i want computers to save state)
L75[03:04:08] <Ocawes​ome101> good
L76[03:04:25] <Kim​apr> >Ocawesome101: what hardware and operating system are…
L77[03:04:25] <Kim​apr> linux with laptop whatever (an amd gpu)
L78[03:04:31] <Kim​apr> artix linux with laptop whatever (an amd gpu) [Edited]
L79[03:04:33] <Ocawes​ome101> what CPU?
L80[03:04:49] <Ocawes​ome101> ah neat you use artix
L81[03:05:39] <Kim​apr> https://tinyurl.com/yz4alp7l
L82[03:07:15] <Kim​apr> another instance of the bug (the script scans the screen, `set`ting each individual character to `#` and then to `.`). the screen should be filled with dots, but there's one hash character https://tinyurl.com/yz2nlej9
L83[03:07:22] <Izaya> > awesome
L84[03:07:22] <Ocawes​ome101> hmm
L85[03:07:23] <Izaya> my man
L86[03:07:36] <Ocawes​ome101> izaya has been awoken
L87[03:08:22] <Do​ot> Other people's creations: useful
L88[03:08:24] <Izaya> today I decided to add the remainder of 10 / screens:count() to the allocation for the first screen, so in my 3 monitor setup I have 3 on the left, 4 in the middle, 3 on the right
L89[03:08:34] <Kim​apr> looks like the problem is indeed that gpu commands randomly don't get through
L90[03:08:37] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/mNh3BHj0j1OhpUbb/2021-10-28T13:08:06-4020x1680.jpg
L91[03:08:44] <Do​ot> Embed fail
L92[03:08:51] <Do​ot> RATTLE EM
L93[03:09:32] <Kim​apr> just relogged and the hash is gone https://tinyurl.com/yztmbw9h
L94[03:09:39] <Kim​apr> so this seems like a client-side glitch
L95[03:10:24] <Ko​dos> Are you using fast or fancy graphics
L96[03:10:44] <Kim​apr> fast
L97[03:10:49] <Ocawes​ome101> try using fancy
L98[03:10:51] <Ko​dos> Next time it happens, swap to fancy and see if it's still there
L99[03:10:52] <Kim​apr> just ran this with optifine https://tinyurl.com/yfcv3sd4
L100[03:11:00] <Kim​apr> more of this glitch happens
L101[03:12:02] <Izaya> today's fun idea: refuse service to discord's servers so discord users can't view my posted files
L102[03:12:26] <Izaya> probably more of a pain than it's worth
L103[03:12:39] <Ko​dos> Uhh isn't something you upload on their servers once it's uploaded
L104[03:12:55] <Izaya> only if they can retrieve it from my server?
L105[03:12:59] <Kim​apr> wait, how will you determine if a person visiting your service is a discord user?
L106[03:13:20] <Izaya> Kimapr: Discord proxies media nowadays
L107[03:13:21] <Kim​apr> the glitch (fancy graphics, optifine) https://tinyurl.com/yjq2lcdd
L108[03:13:40] <Izaya> so if I deny the Discord servers access to my stuff it'll not show up for Discord users
L109[03:13:41] <Kim​apr> Izaya: yeah but you can still visit the link directly
L110[03:13:47] <Izaya> that's fine by me
L111[03:14:10] <Kim​apr> it won't show an embed, but discord users can still see the image by just clicking the link
L112[03:14:19] <Izaya> maybe it is worth doing then
L113[03:14:48] <Izaya> hmmm
L114[03:15:06] <Ko​dos> Also anyone know who/what won SpookyJam
L115[03:15:12] <Ocawes​ome101> Kimapr: i have no idea, sadly
L116[03:15:21] <Ocawes​ome101> this is the first time i've ever seen this
L117[03:15:37] <Ocawes​ome101> there's something in the config involving OpenGL errors, maybe enable that and see if it spits out anything useful?
L118[03:15:38] <Izaya> of course they don't have the decency to use a unique user agent
L119[03:16:38] <Kim​apr> btw, apparently this glitch doesn't happen if i don't yield between `set`s (so filling the screen in one go)
L120[03:16:48] <Kim​apr> oh, actually it does
L121[03:16:59] <Kim​apr> https://tinyurl.com/yhtohhjf
L122[03:17:05] <Kim​apr> chunks of dots missing
L123[03:17:08] <Ocawes​ome101> odd
L124[03:17:12] <Ocawes​ome101> i think this is an OpenGL error
L125[03:17:13] <Ko​dos> Can you post the code you're using
L126[03:17:17] <Ko​dos> Just for shiggles
L127[03:17:30] <Kim​apr> https://tinyurl.com/ydotwjun
L128[03:17:42] <Izaya> https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/issues/1600#issuecomment-757481836
L129[03:17:43] <Ocawes​ome101> settings.cfg, circa line 382Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ukiparoxay
L130[03:17:44] <Ocawes​ome101> *.conf
L131[03:17:50] <MichiBot> Title: Discord uses the wrong user-agent when fetching URL/File previews | Posted by: meme-lord | Posted: Sat May 09 18:08:27 UTC 2020 | Status: closed
L132[03:17:51] <Kim​apr> previously there was an `os.sleep(0)` after each `set`
L133[03:18:04] <Izaya> locked and closed without resolution, wonderful
L134[03:20:16] <Kim​apr> gtg will test later
L135[03:21:40] <Ocawes​ome101> @lunar_sam hey i'm doing your thing
L136[03:21:47] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm writing cursed C<->Lua
L137[03:22:07] <luna​r_sam> how cursed
L138[03:22:24] <Ocawes​ome101> System V IPC (i.e. shared memory)
L139[03:26:18] <Izaya> aight nerds how does this work https://social.shadowkat.net/media/a19f16f1e57fd03d7468db25de740babd179b7fd2fb9f01b7af11b12b27790e0.jpg
L140[03:27:26] <Ko​dos> Loaded fine for me but opened directly in my browser
L141[03:27:45] <Ko​dos> The hell is it even anyway
L142[03:28:08] <Izaya> one of the ships from Bodacious Space Pirates
L143[03:28:34] <Izaya> I think if I want to block Discord entirely the idea will be to configure fail2ban to block any IP that uses a Discord user agent
L144[03:29:57] <Izaya> most inconvenient
L145[03:41:13] <Izaya> hmm okay, set up fail2ban
L146[03:41:16] <Izaya> we'll see if that works
L147[03:41:35] <Mic​hiyo> I mean.. it just shows a link for me in the channel, clicking it loads the image in my browser
L148[03:41:59] <Izaya> yeah it's more about not having them store stuff on their servers than stopping discord users from accessing it, amusing though that would be
L149[03:44:09] <Mic​hiyo> Yes, I figured. Was just confirming that's what it was doing. It never loads as an embed, or with a preview or anything, just a link
L150[03:44:57] <Izaya> excellent :D
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L153[04:09:43] <Ocawes​ome101> [x] nice https://tinyurl.com/yzve5rrg
L154[04:10:28] <Ocawes​ome101> the library i wrote is highly unsafe and very easy to segfault because i do virtually zero error checking but It Works™️
L155[04:11:07] <Izaya> https://hackaday.com/2021/10/25/vcf-east-2021-novasaur-ttl-computer-sets-the-bar/
L156[05:21:16] <Mic​hiyo> FFS, I just discovered that proxmox has an acme client built in....
L157[05:21:26] <Mic​hiyo> I've dealt with invalid certs for so god damn long...
L158[05:21:57] <Mic​hiyo> I tried to reverse proxy proxmox to avoid the constant invalid cert warning...
L159[05:22:04] <Mic​hiyo> IT HAD A DAMN ACME CLIENT!!!
L160[05:29:50] <Ash​irg> %sip
L161[05:29:51] <MichiBot> You drink a viscous iron potion (New!). The bottle turns into an emerald axe.
L162[05:30:17] <Ash​irg> >Michiyo: FFS, I just discovered that proxmox ha…
L163[05:30:17] <Ash​irg> I feel this
L164[05:30:40] <Ash​irg> %tonk
L165[05:30:42] <MichiBot> Geez! Ash​irg! You beat Sagh​etti's previous record of 6 hours, 30 minutes and 18 seconds (By 5 hours, 4 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L166[05:30:43] <MichiBot> Ashirg's new record is 11 hours, 34 minutes and 46 seconds! Ashirg also gained 0.03549 (0.00507 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8. Need 0.00826 more points to pass Cyborg​Potato!
L167[05:38:37] <CompanionCube> Izaya: https://asylum.madhouse-project.org/blog/2021/10/23/peeking-through-logs/
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L169[05:46:21] <Forec​aster> %sip
L170[05:46:22] <MichiBot> You drink a smooth water potion (New!). Forecaster's nails turn the color of copper until they have an apple.
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L176[07:05:11] <Kim​apr> just tested again
L177[07:05:17] <Kim​apr> the bug works with fancy graphics too
L178[07:05:25] <Kim​apr> BUT
L179[07:05:32] <Kim​apr> apparently it's affected by FPS
L180[07:05:57] <Kim​apr> i removed the fps limit and glitch is literally gone
L181[07:06:04] <Kim​apr> https://tinyurl.com/yk5hlgcf
L182[07:07:03] <Izaya> okay well that's cursed but neat
L183[07:07:13] <Kim​apr> and here's 5 fps https://tinyurl.com/yzv89qa4
L184[07:09:30] <Kim​apr> my guess about the reason why people don't have this bug is because everyone plays on powerful computers and don't use vsync/have high-fps monitors
L185[07:13:21] <Izaya> I mean, I usually sit on 30-40 FPS with vsync disabled
L186[07:13:40] <Izaya> speaking of, framerate limit vs vsync, does it make a difference to the bug?
L187[07:16:40] <Kim​apr> lemme check
L188[07:18:03] <Kim​apr> Izaya: on vsync glitch happens quite often, on 60 fps limit doesn't seem to glitch
L189[07:18:23] <Kim​apr> also having F3 on seems to cause the glitch too
L190[07:19:40] <Izaya> CompanionCube: this reminds me a lot of that book
L191[07:21:23] <Kim​apr> looks like this might affect it https://tinyurl.com/yzbd4mhl
L192[07:21:35] <Kim​apr> i also have the `invalid operation` errors
L193[07:21:46] <Kim​apr> but they don't seem to correlate with the glitch
L194[07:22:50] <Izaya> that is an interesting detail
L195[07:23:19] <Izaya> does the client-side and server-side config match?
L196[07:24:00] <Kim​apr> idk
L197[07:24:04] <Kim​apr> i didn't change much
L198[07:24:12] <Kim​apr> definitely didn't change anything about the palettes
L199[07:24:32] <Kim​apr> they do have separate configs though (dedicated server)
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L201[07:56:16] <CompanionCube> Izaya: the h3x chapter specifically, iirc?
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L203[08:49:39] <haraldka> hello
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L205[08:57:01] <Hara​ldRus> hello, my server crash after "lshw" or "lua> computer.getDeviceInfo()
L206[08:57:29] <Hara​ldRus> hello, my server crash after "lshw" or "lua> computer.getDeviceInfo()" [Edited]
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L208[10:23:14] <ThePi​Guy24> i had an interesting dream last night that consisted pretty much entirely of "anbox now working perfectly on pinephone apart from one unity game from 5 years ago"
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L211[12:12:40] <Sagh​etti> Izaya: person who created the issue doesn't know that media proxy exists lol
L212[12:13:46] <Sagh​etti> nvm it's that dumb firef9x
L213[12:13:57] <Sagh​etti> firefox on macintosh useragent*
L214[12:14:11] <Sagh​etti> message sent before i could finish it
L215[14:19:23] <Amanda> %choose irradiate or factory
L216[14:19:24] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick "irradiate"
L217[14:21:20] <Ocawes​ome101> @ThePiGuy24 waydroid is getting there very fast
L218[14:21:40] <Izaya> that reminds me I need to work out how to force dino and such to scale properly under X
L219[14:37:51] <luna​r_sam> i need to start using my pinephone
L220[14:37:52] <luna​r_sam> lmao
L221[14:38:09] <luna​r_sam> looks like t-mobile doesn't like my ancient phone anymore
L222[14:51:58] <Kim​apr> Hawk777: your wasm mod seems pretty cool, but from what i managed to gather by looking at the oc-wasm-sys crate there are syscalls to run another wasm module, but you can't control anything about it at all, apart from code in the module itself. which is really a shame since that makes sandboxing stuff and running programs not intended for OC harder (you can still do it, but you'll pretty much have to run another wasm runtime on wasm...)
L223[14:52:27] <Kim​apr> also that means that the wasm arch is less feature-complete than the lua one
L224[14:53:03] <Kim​apr> in lua, you can fully control the environment exposed to `load`'ed chunks
L225[14:53:46] <Kim​apr> which is great for sandboxing, and also means i can emulate an OC computer or a robot in a OC computer
L226[14:55:33] <Kim​apr> oh oof looks like he's not in the channel
L227[14:58:56] <Kim​apr> also, is OC2 really going to have RISC-V arch support? that's gonna be really cool!
L228[15:01:58] <Ocawes​ome101> it already does
L229[15:02:04] <Ocawes​ome101> it doesn't have a lua arch
L230[15:02:55] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm not sure if it supports custom architectures at all
L231[15:03:05] <Kim​apr> oh
L232[15:03:25] <Kim​apr> so if you want to run lua you'll have to run the lua on risc-v?
L233[15:03:34] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L234[15:03:54] <Ocawes​ome101> OC2 is more or less a name, not much of a successor to OC
L235[15:04:14] <Ocawes​ome101> sangar wrote OC to learn scala, and wrote OC2 to learn RISC-V, is how i understand it
L236[15:04:21] <Kim​apr> so it won't even have the same components etc at all?
L237[15:04:37] <Ocawes​ome101> it's got the same core principles of computer-building and whatnot
L238[15:04:43] <Ocawes​ome101> but the software side is very different
L239[15:04:50] <Ocawes​ome101> and computers are single-block, a bit like CC
L240[15:05:06] <Kim​apr> no modularity?
L241[15:05:54] <Ocawes​ome101> not quite as much as pure OC, but still some
L242[15:06:15] <Ocawes​ome101> you can change the amount of memory and disk space you have, and which peripheral cards you have, etc
L243[15:06:15] <Kim​apr> >Ocawesome101: it already does
L244[15:06:16] <Kim​apr> has it been released yet?
L245[15:06:23] <Ocawes​ome101> https://github.com/fnuecke/oc2
L246[15:06:33] <Ocawes​ome101> there are builds on https://ci.cil.li
L247[15:06:37] <Kim​apr> also are robots still there?
L248[15:06:42] <Ocawes​ome101> robots are there, yes
L249[15:06:55] <Ocawes​ome101> computers can do basic computer-to-computer communication from what i understand
L250[15:07:58] <Kim​apr> i'm gonna try it out, are there any builds?
L251[15:08:10] <Kim​apr> oh, no 1.12.2 version :(
L252[15:08:26] <Ocawes​ome101> that's kind of the point
L253[15:09:05] <Ocawes​ome101> i for one have had it happen a few times where i've wished i had OC in 1.16, though OC2 isn't quite the same and the porting efforts for OC are rather deead
L254[15:11:15] <Kim​apr> there's a sad trend in minecraft i noticed. with newer version, it's getting more and more resource hungry. on my machine one of the versions had low fps in the main menu
L255[15:11:28] <Kim​apr> like, how did they even manage to do it so inefficiently
L256[15:11:43] <Ocawes​ome101> this is why i use sodium and starlight
L257[15:12:07] <Kim​apr> hmm, how much improvement does it do?
L258[15:12:08] <Ocawes​ome101> sodium can more than triple FPS particularly on slower machines, and starlight redoes the lighting engine to be somewhere around 100x faster
L259[15:12:15] <Kim​apr> nice
L260[15:12:39] <Ocawes​ome101> (sodium, on my pinebook pro, makes it go from 1-5FPS to 30-60FPS depending on the area)
L261[15:12:52] <Kim​apr> mm pinebook
L262[15:13:18] <Ocawes​ome101> my main laptop (system76 pangolin) has a ryzen 5 5500U in it so i don't have to worry as much about performance :P
L263[15:13:37] <Ocawes​ome101> starlight doesn't provide a ton of performance improvements but makes things smoother, particularly during periods with a lot of lighting updates
L264[15:13:56] <Ocawes​ome101> i also recommend lithium, which is basically sodium but for the server side
L265[15:14:35] <Kim​apr> do those performance mods work on forge?
L266[15:17:55] <Izaya> minecraft has gotten very complicated since 1.12, and no OC for anything newer
L267[15:18:00] * Izaya is too lazy to bother
L268[15:20:09] <Ocawes​ome101> @Kimapr a slightly older version of starlight is available for 1.16.5, sodium -> magnesium, lithium -> roadrunner
L269[15:20:12] <Amanda> Minecraft's getting more complicated because MS is replacing code so it's more like it's got an actual engine, instead of everything being hard-coded to hell and back
L270[15:21:01] <Izaya> why not just reimplement on top of minetest? :^)
L271[15:21:29] <Kim​apr> minetest sucks, kinda
L272[15:21:43] <Ocawes​ome101> minetest's rendering pipeline is kind of archaic as i understand it
L273[15:21:59] <Ocawes​ome101> its physics feel, idk, wrong when compared to minecraft
L274[15:22:41] <Kim​apr> >Ocawesome101: minetest's rendering pipeline is kind …
L275[15:22:41] <Kim​apr> yeah, it is. they are working on it recently though i think
L276[15:22:47] <Izaya> company as big as microsoft could afford to improve it :^)
L277[15:23:06] <Ocawes​ome101> also, that's just minecraft bedrock edition
L278[15:23:12] <Ocawes​ome101> they're both written in c++
L279[15:23:12] <Kim​apr> for example, they forked irrlicht (the rendering engine they use)
L280[15:23:36] <Izaya> s/bedrock/pocket/
L281[15:23:38] <MichiBot> <Ocawesome101> also, that's just minecraft pocket edition
L282[15:24:04] <Kim​apr> you can run bedrock edition on desktop
L283[15:24:11] <Kim​apr> only windows though :(
L284[15:24:14] <Ocawes​ome101> bedrock edition... called such a name because it deserves only to be at the bottom of the world
L285[15:24:27] <Ocawes​ome101> there are solutions for running the android version on linux/macOS, actually
L286[15:24:34] <Kim​apr> yeah, i hear about those
L287[15:24:39] <Kim​apr> yeah, i heard about those [Edited]
L288[15:24:40] <Amanda> @Ashirg ofc her mom-gifted storage device can bypass storage locks, I was just thinking that last night "I wonder if her mom's going to be able to hold back on that front."
L289[15:24:51] <Kim​apr> fuk discord eats my sed commands reee
L290[15:25:09] <Ocawes​ome101> use %s/a/b/
L291[15:25:13] <Kim​apr> hmm
L292[15:25:19] <Kim​apr> %s/hmm/hmmm/
L293[15:25:20] <MichiBot> <Kimapr> hmmm
L294[15:25:36] <Kim​apr> that works but leaves a percent sign :|
L295[15:26:34] <Ocawes​ome101> not much else possible to do about it unfortunately
L296[15:26:47] * Izaya smugs
L297[15:32:58] <Kim​apr> i should get an irc client
L298[15:39:26] <Kim​apr> hmm, so OC2 computers have a builtin screen? will you be able to connect more, or is it going to be purely single-screen?
L299[15:40:26] <Amanda> %choose continue setting up bastion or factory time
L300[15:40:26] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hold on tightly! "factory time" is a wild ride!
L301[15:41:10] <Ash​irg> >Amanda: <@304600634878066690> ofc her mom-gift…
L302[15:41:10] <Ash​irg> Of course. Being such a mythical "old one" has to have a few benefits after all
L303[15:41:48] <Ocawes​ome101> @Kimapr as far as i know it's purely single-screen
L304[15:41:55] <Kim​apr> sadness
L305[15:42:52] <Amanda> @Ashirg also, I'm not sure, but I'm like 90% sure that the whole "PRoject Rebirth" or whatever it was in the beginning is going to turn out to be started by her mother, because her offspring was born souless or something somehow.
L306[15:43:00] <Kim​apr> it's like having to connect full-blown tablets to my laptop to get more screens
L307[15:43:15] <Kim​apr> actually no
L308[15:43:26] <Kim​apr> it's like having to connect laptops to my laptop to get more screens
L309[15:43:46] <Ash​irg> >Amanda: <@304600634878066690> also, I'm not su…
L310[15:43:46] <Ash​irg> That could actually make sense in some way, but I'm not sure if her mother would actually order all of these measures.
L311[15:43:53] <Ash​irg> Let me check the time
L312[15:44:50] <Amanda> Might be that her mother basically gave them a blank check, and in her greif didn't notice some of the shit. I mean, they mentioned trying to inserrt a _dragon's_ soul even
L313[15:45:18] <Ash​irg> > I tried everything to entice the rest to stay, but after a century of little progress, they lost hope the project will ever reach completion.
L314[15:45:49] <Ash​irg> Elder dragon even
L315[15:45:56] <Forec​aster> %sip
L316[15:45:57] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating red potion (New!). Forecaster's left sock is now cursed.
L317[15:46:15] <Ash​irg> > I know you were insistent on waiting for the correct soul to arrive, but toward the end, we tried to implant souls from countless races. However, all attempts proved disastrous, with each soul’s destruction, including souls from beings of exceptional power dwarfing the original soul of the body. If an Elder dragon soul cannot handle this body, nothing will besides a soul of her race, but they are nearly impossible to find.
L318[15:46:37] <Amanda> ah
L319[15:46:59] <Amanda> "Original soul of the body" maybe means she was attacked then
L320[15:47:50] <Ash​irg> Maybe
L321[15:47:58] <Ash​irg> > Log #1320 year 4282 Era 7, Grade 9 Wizard Johnson.
L322[15:48:05] <Ash​irg> This also arises some questions
L323[15:48:11] <Amanda> and she took a reincarnation detour through earth
L324[15:48:47] <Ash​irg> There are some inconsistencies
L325[15:49:00] <Ash​irg> Such as the story later using the year 2021
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L328[15:49:38] <Amanda> I guess the Project Rebirth was started during the mythic era, then and something made the people start the clock again?
L329[15:50:23] <Amanda> The runes that are branded on her are from the mythic era, after all
L330[15:50:58] <Kim​apr> how do you compile oc2? i never compiled java stuff
L331[15:51:26] <Ocawes​ome101> just download it from the CI server?
L332[15:51:35] <Kim​apr> i tried running `gradle .` in oc2 repo and it seems to do stuff so i guess i'm doing it right
L333[15:51:45] <Kim​apr> >Ocawesome101: just download it from the CI server?
L334[15:51:45] <Kim​apr> where? i don't see any oc2 builds there
L335[15:51:49] <Amanda> "./gradlew build"
L336[15:52:04] <Ocawes​ome101> https://ci.cil.li/job/oc2-1.16-forge/
L337[15:52:15] <Ocawes​ome101> https://ci.cil.li/job/sedna-1.16-forge/
L338[15:52:22] <Ocawes​ome101> https://ci.cil.li/job/markdown_manual-1.16-forge/
L339[15:52:26] <Ocawes​ome101> you need those things
L340[15:52:35] <Kim​apr> all of them? what's the sedna?
L341[15:52:42] <Amanda> the actual emulator part
L342[15:53:28] <Kim​apr> >Amanda: "./gradlew build"
L343[15:53:29] <Kim​apr> wait, so running `gradle .` won't work?
L344[15:53:42] <Kim​apr> looks like it spits out a warning about something minecraft
L345[15:53:53] <Kim​apr> https://tinyurl.com/yj3jsmzt
L346[15:53:59] <Amanda> it may, but "gradlew" will download a specific version of gradle which may or may not be compatible with whatever's in your system repos
L347[15:54:11] <Kim​apr> oh
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L349[16:04:13] <Kim​apr> no C compiler :(
L350[16:04:27] <Kim​apr> https://tinyurl.com/ye764ceh
L351[16:04:59] <Amanda> Sangar was trying to make tinyc work, but I don't think it got anywhere
L352[16:05:20] <Kim​apr> the big sad
L353[16:09:26] <Kim​apr> also the flash memory says "Linux" on it but the hard drive also says "Linux"
L354[16:09:55] <Kim​apr> i'm assuming the harddrive is actually what has linux, but what's on the flash memory then? opensbi?
L355[16:12:29] <Kim​apr> pretty sad oc2's OS can't build itself
L356[16:13:09] <Kim​apr> hmm what is this: https://github.com/mausimus/rvcc
L357[16:13:25] <Ocawes​ome101> the flash memory has OpenSBI and the kernel on it iirc
L358[16:14:29] <Kim​apr> also why does it have ssh but not sshd
L359[16:14:54] <Amanda> dropbear is smaller
L360[16:15:10] <Kim​apr> aah
L361[16:17:09] <Kim​apr> huh, it has 9P? isn't that a plan 9 thing? https://tinyurl.com/yzhbczbj
L362[16:18:12] <Amanda> Yes, but it's also used a lot in VM stuff.
L363[16:18:26] <Amanda> for example the datapack/builtin mount is a 9p mount over virtio
L364[16:19:14] <Kim​apr> ooh, nice, there's vi
L365[16:19:21] <Amanda> probably busybox vi
L366[16:19:31] <Kim​apr> yeah
L367[16:22:06] <Kim​apr> i feel like OC2 is much better, and it's kinda simpler in a way too
L368[16:22:18] <Kim​apr> also keyboard capture is cool
L369[16:22:26] <Kim​apr> finally i can use ESC keys
L370[16:23:09] <Kim​apr> sadly `home` and `end` keys don't seem to work (or perhaps they do work but the shell and vi don't do anything with them)
L371[16:25:23] <Kim​apr> ~~time to install gentoo~~ (does formatting get bridged in any way?)
L372[16:35:59] <Kim​apr> does the OC2 terminal support colors?
L373[16:43:06] <Kim​apr> is everything craftable yet?
L374[16:46:28] <Ocawes​ome101> colors, yes, craftable, not sure
L375[16:56:28] <Kim​apr> i want to use it on my skyblock server
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L377[17:19:04] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L378[17:20:31] <Sagh​etti> %tonkout
L379[17:20:32] <MichiBot> Fudge! Sagh​etti! You beat Ash​irg's previous record of 11 hours, 34 minutes and 46 seconds (By 15 minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L380[17:20:33] <MichiBot> Sagh​etti has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.011 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.03344. Position #19 => #13 (Overtook kan18) Need 0.00185 more points to pass Shuud​oushi!
L381[17:24:21] <Sagh​etti> %leaderboard
L382[17:26:12] <Sagh​etti> i'm the 38th most talkative person here
L383[17:27:17] <Ocawes​ome101> neat
L384[17:27:25] <Ocawes​ome101> %leaderboard
L385[17:27:32] <Ocawes​ome101> uh
L386[17:27:35] <Ocawes​ome101> does that do anything
L387[17:27:55] <Sagh​etti> no
L388[17:28:39] <Ocawes​ome101> how do you view that?
L389[17:28:44] <Ocawes​ome101> hmm %tonkleaders
L390[17:28:45] <MichiBot> https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L391[17:29:17] <Ocawes​ome101> %shellcount
L392[17:29:20] <MichiBot> Ocawes​ome101: You have 0 Blue Shells, 2 Red Shells, 5 Green Shells, and 2 Bricks
L393[17:30:32] <Sagh​etti> %brick
L394[17:30:35] <Sagh​etti> dang
L395[17:30:50] <Kim​apr> >Ocawesome101: colors, yes, craftable, not sure
L396[17:30:50] <Kim​apr> looks like stuff is indeed craftable
L397[17:31:32] <ThePi​Guy24> i am still waiting for the stats to update ;p
L398[17:31:40] <ThePi​Guy24> they havent updated in over half a year now
L399[17:33:19] <Ocawes​ome101> lol %quote 24
L400[17:33:20] <MichiBot> Ocawes​ome101: No quotes found for name '2​4'
L401[17:33:25] <Ocawes​ome101> awww
L402[17:33:39] <Ocawes​ome101> %quote payonel
L403[17:33:39] <MichiBot> Quote #184: <pay​onel> threat the thread
L404[17:33:41] <Mic​hiyo> That's because I switched the logging back to text files, and I've not fixed the stats script... I think
L405[17:33:48] <Mic​hiyo> also %quote #24
L406[17:33:48] <MichiBot> Quote #24: <sk​ye> if someone quotes me, I will kill them. q_q
L407[17:34:09] <Ocawes​ome101> aah
L408[17:34:15] <Mic​hiyo> when referencing a specific quote, it has to be prefixed with #
L409[17:38:13] <Sagh​etti> what was the inspiration for tonk?
L410[17:51:53] <Ash​irg> %tonk
L411[17:51:54] <MichiBot> Boom! Ash​irg! You beat Sagh​etti's previous record of <0 (By 31 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L412[17:51:55] <MichiBot> Ashirg's new record is 31 minutes and 22 seconds! Ashirg also gained 0.00052 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8. Need 0.00774 more points to pass Cyborg​Potato!
L413[17:55:53] <ThePi​Guy24> >MichiBot: Quote #24: <sk​ye> if someone quotes me, I…
L414[17:55:54] <ThePi​Guy24> ah good old skye ;p
L415[17:59:11] <Forec​aster> @Saghetti nothing really, I just made it one day and then refined it to what it is now over time
L416[18:07:41] <Kim​apr> >Kimapr: looks like stuff is indeed craftable
L417[18:07:41] <Kim​apr> also looks like computers are able to use energy from tech mods
L418[18:34:59] <Kim​apr> does OC2's default OS have ipv6 support?
L419[18:35:15] <Kim​apr> i just had a terrible idea
L420[18:35:27] <Kim​apr> build yggdrasil meshnets in minecraft
L421[18:35:35] <Amanda> Not yet, but someone made a PR for it
L422[18:36:02] <Amanda> I think Sangar's issue was it added a lot to the resulting image size, leaving less space for the user
L423[18:41:24] <Kim​apr> also my server is in the yggdrasil meshnet so it'd be yggdrasil in minecraft in yggdrasil
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L426[18:53:24] <Mic​hiyo> %test
L427[18:53:41] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.
L428[18:53:46] <Mic​hiyo> wow....
L429[18:56:45] <Mic​hiyo> %test
L430[18:56:48] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.
L431[18:57:10] <Mic​hiyo> ...
L432[19:04:21] <Mic​hiyo> %test
L433[19:04:23] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.
L434[19:04:31] <Mic​hiyo> 2 seconds... not great but better
L435[19:07:39] <Mic​hiyo> %sip
L436[19:07:41] <MichiBot> You drink a powdery yellow potion (New!). Michiyo smells something burning.
L437[19:46:03] <Va​ur> %sip
L438[19:46:04] <MichiBot> You drink a soft salmon potion (New!). It tastes salty.
L439[20:07:03] <Amanda> ... Aren't salmon freshwater fish? If so, why is it salty
L440[20:15:24] <Va​ur> smoked salmon is salty
L441[20:15:30] *** finch is now known as Ariri
L442[20:50:33] <Kim​apr> are wireless network cards planned in OC2?
L443[20:56:40] <Sagh​etti> probably
L444[21:05:20] <Ed​erV> How is the dev of OC" going?
L445[21:05:53] <Ash​irg> %sip
L446[21:05:54] <MichiBot> You drink a cloudy tuna potion (New!). A warp zone opens up next to Ashirg. (Use %warp to jump in)
L447[21:06:00] <Ash​irg> %warp
L448[21:06:10] <MichiBot> You end up in a dimension ruled by a Partly Exploded Gramophone.
L449[21:06:10] <Ash​irg> Huh?
L450[21:06:21] <Ash​irg> Oh my
L451[21:06:23] <Ash​irg> %tonk
L452[21:06:24] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Ash​irg! You beat your own previous record of 31 minutes and 22 seconds (By 2 hours, 43 minutes and 7 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L453[21:06:25] <MichiBot> Ashirg's new record is 3 hours, 14 minutes and 29 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00272)
L454[21:56:48] <dequbed> Amanda: I'd challenge you to build a tiny RISC-V c compiler but I don't want to inflict *that* level of pain onto you :P
L455[21:59:11] <Sagh​etti> ~~tcc~~
L456[22:05:36] <Mic​hiyo> %test
L457[22:05:37] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: No.
L458[22:17:00] <Ko​dos> If I want to make a table, and eventually have it be a table of tables, do I need to initialize it with `local myTable = {}` or do I need to pre-specify the subtables before hand, a la `local myTable = {{}, {}}`
L459[22:18:49] <Ko​dos> Usecase: I'm making an inventory display panel, that when I use Left/Right arrow keys, it switches between my silo information, so page 1 is my iron ingot silo, page 2 is steel, etc. And I'm looking for an easier way to pull the data
L460[22:19:49] <Amanda> do you plan to index this by number or by some string?
L461[22:19:55] <Amanda> ( the table of tables )
L462[22:20:16] <Amanda> do you plan to add more to the table of tables?
L463[22:20:50] <Ko​dos> Yes I plan to add more eventually. I'm basically going to have it check periodically for new inventories and update the entire list so when panning, new silos appear automatically
L464[22:21:09] <Amanda> the latter would create a table with a [1] and a [2] of {}
L465[22:21:17] <Amanda> ( the latter example you gave )
L466[22:21:23] <Ko​dos> I just need to populate the main myTable with a subtable of just name=itemname, amount=value
L467[22:21:34] <Amanda> the former you'd be in charge of adding the new {} entries yourself
L468[22:21:37] <Ko​dos> But a subtable for each pair
L469[22:22:28] <Ko​dos> Okay, so would it just be a matter of table.insert(myTable, {silo.name, silo.amount})?
L470[22:22:35] <Amanda> table of tables is the same as a table of strings|number|etc
L471[22:23:33] <Amanda> yes, if you wanted myTable to contain { { silo.name, silo.amount } } after
L472[22:24:01] <Amanda> ( obv not those exact strings, just reusing the variables for an example )
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