L2[00:14:29] <Amanda> %choose em or pressure

L3[00:14:29] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Huh, what? "em" I guess, now leave me alone I'm playing Tetris.

L4[00:32:32] <Amanda> %remindme 12h see about how to clear the pihole cache so you can figure out why piku.srv.home is NXDOMAIN

L5[00:32:33] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "see about how to clear the pihole cache so you can figure out why piku.srv.home is NXDOMAIN" in 12h at 09/28/2021 12:32:32 PM

L7[00:57:57] <Ocawes​ome101> update: ext2 implementation is progressing.... slowly

L8[00:58:09] <Ocawes​ome101> i can almost read block group descriptors now, i think

L9[01:10:02] <Mic​hiyo> >Amanda: _wonders if <@124625753240240132> made …

L10[01:10:02] <Mic​hiyo> I'm.... not sure :D

L11[01:10:25] <Mic​hiyo> `413+`

L12[01:11:57] <Amanda> Tbh I not even sure if it was that story or another i was binging at the same DNA

L13[01:12:01] <Amanda> Same time*

L14[01:17:20] <Amanda> But can you read the magic cookie, @ocawesome101?

L15[01:22:44] <Mic​hiyo> God damn it... Dell seems to have deleted all of their Steel Series product pages

L16[01:22:56] <Mic​hiyo> which is FUCKING GREAT CAUSE I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ORDER A KEYBOARD

L17[01:28:15] <Amanda> D:

L18[01:44:36] <Ocawes​ome101> Amanda: no

L19[01:47:56] <Amanda> What about the golden splines?

L20[01:55:58] <Spider ​EveryOS> Did anybody else notice that, on Plan9k, there is a help command that is aliased to man, even though there is no actual man command? https://tinyurl.com/yjve5rd5

L22[02:13:44] <s_​a_m> reeee i can't get airplanes plus helo parts to work

L25[02:25:31] <Amanda> Night nerds

L26[02:29:33] <Spider ​EveryOS> gn

L27[02:29:38] <Spider ​EveryOS> gn Amanda [Edited]

L28[03:18:52] <Ko​dos> Izaya you around? Had a stupid/crazy idea I wanted to ask about the feasibility of

L29[03:19:25] <Izaya> whatcha got

L30[03:19:33] <Ko​dos> UseNet/BBS in OC

L31[03:20:10] <Izaya> okay ngl I've been thinking way too hard about stuff along the lines of NTP in OC

L32[03:20:23] <Ko​dos> You mean NNTP?

L33[03:20:26] <Izaya> that one

L34[03:20:30] <Izaya> but do you mean just delayed distributed messages or

L35[03:20:48] <Ko​dos> Okay, so I'm not sure how close I'm remembering this compared to the real thing, but

L36[03:21:43] <Ko​dos> I just want some basic reader software on the 'client', and then servers would store entire archives of pages, I'd mostly do like short stories and information about stuff you can do with OC as well as having downloadable example files (You'd just press a keyboard button on the relevant page to download the corresponding file)

L37[03:21:54] <Ko​dos> But you'd be able to write your own content and host it

L38[03:22:08] <Ko​dos> Essentially it'd be a combination of a newsgroup and LYNX

L39[03:22:16] <Ko​dos> With a bit of FTP thrown in

L40[03:22:23] <CompanionCube> gopher?

L41[03:22:32] <Izaya> hmmmm

L42[03:22:51] <Ko​dos> Just spitballing here, but I'd call it WTF: Words, Thoughts, Files

L43[03:23:08] <Izaya> hah

L44[03:23:31] <Ko​dos> Or there's also FUCK: Files U Can Keep

L45[03:23:52] <Ko​dos> Somewhat Helpful I Think

L46[03:24:27] <Izaya> so there's two parts for what you're talking about

L47[03:24:33] <Izaya> there's the distribution of the stuff

L48[03:24:37] <Izaya> and there's the accessing of the stuff

L49[03:25:11] <CompanionCube> alternatively something like prestel/minitel

L50[03:25:31] <Izaya> just stream the service?

L51[03:27:14] <CompanionCube> i suppose the RL requivalent would depend on your intended structurr

L52[03:28:47] <CompanionCube> Izaya: btw, the local labour party is engaging in very large amount of 'shit lite' stuff if you know what i mean

L53[03:28:59] <CompanionCube> really putting the 'lite' in 'shit lite'

L54[03:31:18] <Ko​dos> Stupid question: Can I pass a table of parameters to a function if the table contains the proper types and values of said function's required arguments

L55[03:31:27] <Ko​dos> Or does that require special handling

L56[03:31:45] <Izaya> not directly

L57[03:31:52] <CompanionCube> i don't think lua has kwargs if that's want you want?

L58[03:31:54] <Izaya> you can do fname(table.unpack(argstable)) though

L59[03:32:05] <Ko​dos> That'll do

L60[03:32:06] <Ko​dos> Thanks

L61[03:39:42] <Hawk777> @Kodos: If you have nils in the middle of argstable, it might not do what you want, BTW. In that case you can use the other two parameters to table.unpack, which are the indices to unpack; for example, if you know you want to pass exactly four parameters, you could do fname(table.unpack(argstable, 1, 4)). If you have a table that came from table.pack(), then fname(table.unpack(argstable, 1, argstable.n)) achieves perfect forwarding even i

L62[03:39:42] <Hawk777> here are nils.

L63[03:47:33] <Ocawes​ome101> @Spider EveryOS you may have to install man with MPT (and the mpt servers might be down)

L64[03:48:26] <Ocawes​ome101> @Kodos make the function take a able of arguments so you can do `func { positional1, positional2, key1 = value1, key2 = value2, ... }`

L65[04:56:42] <CompanionCube> Izaya: btw, you know how americans have described the shittiness of nextdoor

L66[04:57:36] <CompanionCube> what if your ideas for 'law and order' involved the state and whatapp groups of that kind

L67[05:03:02] <Va​ur> %tonk

L68[05:03:02] <MichiBot> Blast! Va​ur! You beat Ash​irg's previous record of 20 minutes and 30 seconds (By 7 hours, 29 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!

L69[05:03:03] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 7 hours, 49 minutes and 32 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00748 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.05809866 more points to pass Forec​aster!

L70[06:03:42] <dequbed> Amanda: Your railroad insanity is almost sane. How long are your train though? Intersection and then right turn gives you quite a short secion in the turn and long trains can block up the intersection then

L71[06:08:07] <dequbed> @Saghetti hate to break it to you but Ethernet does *not* scale well for networks of 10k devices because it doesn't have any range-based routing capability. Ethernet for that scale forces you to put a lot of memory in places where you don't want to have to have lots of memory :P

L72[06:09:17] <Sagh​etti> wow i sent that message a while ago

L73[06:09:28] <Sagh​etti> anyways

L74[06:09:57] <Sagh​etti> when i said networks of 10k devices i meant like

L75[06:10:37] <Sagh​etti> how ethernet can work, when set up properly, for huge networks

L76[06:10:40] <Sagh​etti> like big companies

L77[06:10:52] <Sagh​etti> maybe this is less about ethernet in particular

L78[06:14:37] <dequbed> @ThePiGuy24 there are a lot of different ways to get NaN. sqrt(-1), sin^-1(2), 0/0, N/0, ∞/∞, ∞-∞, and so on. And you'd probably agree that whatever comes out of 1/0 is not the same as sqrt(-1). But since IEEE754 float have to drop that information they short circuit and evaluate *all* NaN as unequal to themselves.

L79[06:15:05] <dequbed> Both are wrong, but one is only wrong in special cases while the other is only right in special cases ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L80[06:15:27] <dequbed> @Saghetti I check IRC rarely. And I only read your message because Amada pinged me right before.

L81[06:16:28] <dequbed> Anyway, no big networks tend to do use IP and routed subnets because Ethernet can't know in which direction a particular device will be in any other way than "store all MAC addresses you've seen"

L82[06:17:05] <dequbed> With IP you can at least go 10.11.12.0/24 is behind 10.11.1.3

L83[06:18:02] <dequbed> And in that case ethernet is below that but the network ethernet sees is only a very small subset of those 10k

L84[06:27:48] <dequbed> Actually, N/0 is +∞, my bad. I've had no coffee yet. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it <.<

L85[06:39:27] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: do you want a package mirror in australia

L91[08:14:38] <Lizzy​-chan> >Ashirg: Does Lizzy not write here anymore?

L92[08:14:38] <Lizzy​-chan> I have a glance from time to time, though for the most part this place is pretty calm/self-moderated and i've got other places i need to help moderate

L93[08:23:30] <Lizzy​-chan> >Mimiru: Lizzy, I think something may be fucked on …

L94[08:23:31] <Lizzy​-chan> yaayyy, i knew the database being in a fucked state was gonna come and bite me in the ass sooner or later

L95[08:25:08] <s_​a_m> well, it only took this long

L96[08:26:46] <Lizzy​-chan> whoops, only just realised i went back to 2019

L97[08:27:23] <Lizzy​-chan> but yeah, the database on the forums is kinda fucked and i don't have the spare time or spoons to try and fix it at the moment

L98[08:29:49] <Lizzy​-chan> if you're still having issues, let me know. also best way to notify me is to ping me here. IRC pings eventually get burried under loads of other stuff and when i rejoin my irc client at home i get all past pings and any channel join messages that were in my znc backlog

L99[08:35:30] <Ash​irg> >Liizzii: I have a glance from time to time, tho…

L100[08:35:30] <Ash​irg> Makes sense

L101[09:48:48] <Izaya> .tell Ariri https://media.gameliberty.club/media/media_attachments/files/107/008/625/641/418/671/original/8652f76c286b9179.png

L102[10:22:39] <Wat​tana> im stealing that

L105[11:34:07] <Forec​aster> %sip

L106[11:34:08] <MichiBot> You drink an oxidised gold potion (New!). Forecaster feels the need to use "%shell".

L107[11:34:21] <Forec​aster> you can't tell me what to do!

L110[12:04:14] <Ash​irg> >Forecaster: you can't tell me what to do!

L111[12:04:14] <Ash​irg> No, but it can detect what you want to do

L115[12:32:33] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: see about how to clear the pihole cache so you can figure out why piku.srv.home is NXDOMAIN

L116[12:41:41] <Amanda> dequbed: ATM my trains are 1-3 but I'm considering changing that to 1-7 or 2-6 given how much space my station blueprint ended up taking

L117[13:09:39] <Amanda> dequbed: Assuming you were talking about the 4-way anyway, would this be any better:

L118[13:09:53] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/gCJFzyhKXqjaiFubNvgVmZVK/screenshot-1632834561.png

L119[13:11:59] <Ash​irg> Hot damn

L120[13:13:42] <Ash​irg> Hmmmm

L121[13:14:47] <Ash​irg> They should always be driving on the same side, right?

L122[13:14:54] <Amanda> yes

L123[13:16:09] <Ash​irg> Ah, never mind

L124[13:16:11] <Ash​irg> I am stupid

L125[13:17:34] <Amanda> Oh, I noticed and fixed the extra signal on the right track after taking the screenshot

L126[15:03:12] <Amanda> %lua "pong!"

L127[15:03:12] <MichiBot> pong!

L130[15:27:23] <Ash​irg> %tonk

L131[15:27:24] <MichiBot> Holy extremely short fork Batman! Ash​irg! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 7 hours, 49 minutes and 32 seconds (By 2 hours, 34 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!

L132[15:27:25] <MichiBot> Ashirg's new record is 10 hours, 24 minutes and 21 seconds! Ashirg also gained 0.02064 (0.00258 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #11 => #10. (Overtook SquidDev) Need 0.01537 more points to pass bau​en1!

L133[15:27:46] <SquidDev> Nooooo.

L134[15:28:03] <Ash​irg> That was totally on purpose

L135[15:29:02] <Ash​irg> "Holy extremely short fork Batman!"

L136[15:29:04] <Ash​irg> Lmao

L137[15:49:59] <Forec​aster> I believe one of the exclamations are `Holy {random junk item} Batman!`

L138[15:55:02] <Ash​irg> Possible

L139[15:56:51] <Forec​aster> %sip

L140[15:56:51] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant nectar potion (New!). Forecaster turns into an aether dog fish girl until they exit the room.

L141[15:57:07] <Forec​aster> oh dear

L142[16:09:25] <Va​ur> %sip

L143[16:09:25] <MichiBot> You drink a cloudy weather potion (New!). Vaur's favourite shirt is suddenly fire.

L148[16:59:00] <dequbed> Amanda: the four-way isn't the problem by itself. It's that the four way has normal rail signals on the exit side. So they are green if the following part of track is free.

L149[16:59:28] <Amanda> ah

L150[17:00:08] <dequbed> If you have a four-way and then a right turn right after the section in the turn after is quite short. So if a train is waiting after *that* section the four-way will let trains through (since the turn section itself is free) but trains will then have to wait *in the turn* and if the trains are long enough will block the intersection

L151[17:00:31] <dequbed> And they way you built the intersection that blocks all passage. Not a bad thing by itself mind you, but a bad thing in combination.

L152[17:37:22] <Sagh​etti> factorio my beloved

L153[17:53:55] <Forecaster> %restart for no reason

L155[17:55:27] <Forec​aster> oh, E:D confirmed new SRV and FC interiors

L159[17:57:47] <Forec​aster> also Megaship interiors as well apparently

L161[17:59:05] <Forec​aster> %loot

L162[17:59:06] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: You get a loot box! It contains an empty post-it note. (Junk)

L163[17:59:21] <Corded> * <Forec​aster> doodles on it

L164[18:06:02] <Forec​aster> %tonkout

L165[18:06:03] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forec​aster, you were not able to beat Ash​irg's record of 10 hours, 24 minutes and 21 seconds this time. 2 hours, 38 minutes and 38 seconds were wasted! Missed by 7 hours, 45 minutes and 42 seconds!

L166[18:06:09] <Forec​aster> oh

L167[18:06:10] <Forec​aster> shoot

L168[18:10:51] <Va​ur> %loot

L169[18:10:51] <MichiBot> Va​ur: You get a loot box! It contains a Magic last year's creap! (25%) (25%)

L170[18:11:09] <Va​ur> I dont understand

L171[18:12:05] <Forec​aster> that's from the inventory

L172[18:54:01] <Va​ur> doesn't explain what it is

L173[18:55:07] <Forec​aster> it was added by CompanionCube 51 years ago according to the inventory :P

L174[18:55:47] <CompanionCube> it's supposed to be crap

L175[18:56:47] <Forec​aster> hm, I would have thought something appearing in a lootbox should remove it from the inventory

L176[18:57:37] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, that broke a long time ago IIRC

L177[19:05:58] <Forec​aster> well, it calls `item.destroy()`, so something strange is afoot

L178[19:09:55] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/yzh8hcrf

L179[19:18:54] <Ash​irg> %sip

L180[19:18:54] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe unobtanium potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! But Ashirg's anti-virus routines destroy it.

L181[19:19:10] <Ash​irg> Proof that I am a computer after all

L182[19:20:50] <Forec​aster> or wait, no

L183[19:21:01] <Forec​aster> it's when the item gets cursed it destroys the original item

L184[19:21:37] <Forec​aster> %loot the virus

L185[19:21:37] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: You stab the virus! It dropped an impossible geometric shape. (Junk)!

L186[19:21:44] <Forec​aster> huh

L187[21:08:47] <s_​a_m> https://tinyurl.com/yho8tulh

L188[21:31:52] <Amanda> %chose east or north

L189[21:32:01] <Amanda> %choose east or north

L190[21:32:01] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick "north"

L191[21:39:40] <Sagh​etti> i'm out of polus.gg

L192[21:44:48] <Ash​irg> Out of what

L193[21:51:38] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Among Us mod / server.

L195[22:05:34] <Kristo​pher38> >Saghetti: i'm out of polus.gg

L196[22:05:34] <Kristo​pher38> congrats i guess?

L197[23:09:08] <Ko​dos> %sip

L198[23:09:08] <MichiBot> You drink a liquid aqua potion (New!). Kodos feels the need to use "%shell".

L199[23:09:18] <Ko​dos> %shell

L200[23:09:19] <MichiBot> Kodos loads spinning pinwheel into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near Zer​ant, ash​ka, and dequ​bed. They take 1d6 => 6, 1d6 => 3, and 1d6 => 2 splash damage respectively.

L201[23:09:20] <MichiBot> Spinning pinwheel flickers and pops out of existence.

L202[23:21:34] <s_​a_m> hm, what is sam building https://tinyurl.com/yjt4s2s4