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L2[00:05:20] <Amanda> It's random
L3[00:05:42] <Amanda> Rather, it has some
random noise applied to the hardness value
L4[00:06:40]
<techwiz78>
Not for the blocks themselves I don't think, that's standard
minecraft. I'm trying to counter-noise it by taking averages and .5
is causing problems in the rounding, but if it's the only one I
could probably just do a separate check from the rest
L5[00:07:36] <Amanda> ah, not sure
then
L6[00:08:37]
<techwiz78>
Why does dirt have to be so annoying
L7[00:21:03]
<techwiz78>
Do table indices have to be strings in OC?
L8[00:21:12]
<Ocawesome101> no
L9[00:21:16]
<Ocawesome101> nor do they in regular
lua
L10[00:21:25]
<Ocawesome101> in fact they can literally
be any lua value excepting `nil`
L11[00:21:54]
<techwiz78>
I figured, but I'm struggling to get my robot to agree with
that
L12[00:23:44]
<Ocawesome101> post code
L13[00:23:57]
<Ocawesome101> or, if you can be more
specific otherwise that'd begreat
L14[00:24:00]
<techwiz78>
How do I do the cool code block thing in discord?
L16[00:24:26]
<Ocawesome101> note that those are
backticks (`) not apostrophes (')
L18[00:26:29]
<Ocawesome101> what's the error?
L19[00:26:38]
<techwiz78>
Bigger than my tiny robot display
L20[00:26:45]
<Ocawesome101> in the interpreter local
variables are not kept around after the line they are in has been
executed
L21[00:26:49]
<Ocawesome101> but in scripts they
are
L22[00:27:03]
<Ocawesome101> also, `Local` should be
`local`
L23[00:27:12]
<techwiz78>
My phone auto caps
L24[00:27:26]
<techwiz78>
And I've had local variables stick around in the interpreter
plenty
L25[00:27:31]
<Ocawesome101> fair enough
L26[00:27:40]
<Ocawesome101> `local a = {}; a[1] = 1`
will work
L28[00:28:00]
<Ocawesome101> will not
L29[00:29:28]
<techwiz78>
Then how does running a require in the interpreter work at all?
That's weird. I don't wanna have to fuss around with posting my
entire code here, so I'll dive back into that. Wish me luck
L30[00:30:33]
<Ocawesome101> libraries in the
interpreter are automatically `require`d through some metatable
weirdness with the interpreter environment
L31[00:32:01]
<techwiz78>
So by writing out a normal require in the interpreter, it somehow
manages to loop that into itself permanently while it runs? That's
sweet, I wanna learn how to do that at some point
L32[00:32:28]
<Ocawesome101> no, you don't have to write
out the `require` in the interpreter at all
L33[00:32:40]
<techwiz78>
I do for my own custom functions
L34[00:32:50]
<techwiz78>
That I test
L35[00:33:18]
<Ocawesome101> in which file are the
functions located?
L36[00:33:35]
<techwiz78>
Their own personal file in the home directory
L37[00:33:49]
<techwiz78>
Separate files for each project
L38[00:34:13]
<Ocawesome101> the interpreter just
modifies the environment so that if a variable you're trying to
access isn't found, it will call `require(thatvariablesname)` and
assign `env[thatvariablesname]` to whatever the `require` call
returns
L39[00:34:46]
<Ocawesome101> with the end result that,
for example, calling `component.list` in the interpreter does not
require you to write out `component =
require("component")` beforehand
L40[00:35:18]
<techwiz78>
Huh
L42[00:36:49]
<techwiz78>
Then how come it won't autofill the function before I type require,
but will after or after I run a command from it? Does it keep that
require in memory from that point on?
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<techwiz78>
Then how come it won't autofill the function before I type require,
but will after or after I run a function from it? Does it keep that
require in memory from that point on? [Edited]
L46[00:46:47]
<techwiz78>
Sweet, how does it do that dynamically while it's running?
L47[00:52:29]
<Ocawesome101> metatables
L48[00:52:40]
<techwiz78>
I have no clue how that works
L51[00:55:11]
<Ocawesome101> that's the relevant code
from `/lib/core/lua_shell.lua` @techwiz78
L52[00:55:44]
<techwiz78>
Sweet, thanks. I had an idea awhile back, and this solves it pretty
handedly
L53[00:59:45] <Amanda> %choose rain box or
waves
L54[00:59:45] <MichiBot> Amanda: Is it a
bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "waves"!
L55[00:59:54] <Amanda> Hrm. I
disagree
L59[01:14:06]
<techwiz78>
Anyone happen to have any clue why
L61[01:14:07]
<techwiz78>
Would cause any problems? Both tables are initiated locally at the
start of the function they're in, as well as size being calculated
before hand
L62[01:15:05]
<Ocawesome101> shouldn't cause problems
unless `total[j]` or `temp[j]` is msising
L63[01:15:08]
<Ocawesome101> missing(
L64[01:15:12]
<Ocawesome101> *
L65[01:15:57]
<techwiz78>
I checked both, that shouldn't be an issue. I've been commenting
chunks of code out just to see where it breaks, that it errors out
when I bring that bit back in
L66[01:16:21]
<techwiz78>
I wish robots had bigger screens so I could actually read the giant
error it throws at me
L67[01:16:56]
<Ocawesome101> throw in a `print(total[j],
temp[j])`, and also run your code on not-a-robot if possible
L68[01:17:24]
<techwiz78>
Sadly not possible at this point in time, doing a dumb thing as a
challenge
L69[01:17:49]
<techwiz78>
Otherwise I'd have a nice big t3 screen to read it on
L70[01:18:13]
<s_a_m>
pipe your command into less
L71[01:18:17]
<Ocawesome101> ah
L72[01:18:41] <Izaya> hmmmmmmm
L73[01:18:49] <Izaya> I should add the
OpenOS manual pages to my OC site
L74[01:20:01]
<s_a_m> i
need to write docs for tsukinet once i finish sockets
L75[01:20:06]
<s_a_m> had
a busy-ish day today so
L76[01:20:26] <Izaya> been thinking I
should do videos for minitel stuff
L77[01:20:34] <Izaya> I liked
Ocawesome101's editing of that other one
L78[01:20:37] <Izaya> punchy
L79[01:21:01] <Izaya> not sure where I'd
put them though
L81[01:21:25] <Izaya> that looks more star
fox than KSP
L82[01:21:51]
<s_a_m>
lmao
L83[01:22:09]
<s_a_m>
it's supposed to be a low observable aircraft
L84[01:22:15]
<s_a_m>
inspired by the SR-71
L85[01:25:50]
<techwiz78>
I'm more confused now, because it's printing out 3 values when
there's only two print commands in use. Cats climbing on my
keyboard and trying to steal my tea certainly make finding the
third one harder
L86[01:26:56]
<techwiz78>
--[[ ]]-- comments out anything between them, yes?
L87[01:27:13] <Izaya> if it's doing two
next to each other print can display multiple values
L91[02:42:17] <Amanda> %choose irradiate or
halucinate
L92[02:42:19] <MichiBot> Amanda: Once you
get a taste of "irradiate" you can't stop.
L93[02:42:31] <Amanda> Hrm. Sounds
unhealthy, better halucinate
L94[02:42:54] *
Amanda cuddles up around Elfi, reads to her about a goddess
summoning gone Wrong (or very right)
L95[02:43:12] * Elfi
kicks her feet and listens intently while drawing bugs
c:
L96[02:44:31]
<s_a_m> i
need to make a transonic tanker for my funny plane
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<Ocawesome101> oh boy
L99[03:03:47]
<s_a_m>
took me far too long to realize why the aerial refueling mod didn't
load
L100[03:03:47]
<Ocawesome101> ranting about abortion (and
why current US anti-abortion sentiment from those on the right wing
is stupid) on the internet
L101[03:03:58]
<s_a_m> it
wasn't in the gamedata folder
L102[03:07:18]
<techwiz78>
Question, which axis does the width and depth of the geolyzer's
scan follow?
L103[03:16:58]
<techwiz78>
I'm pretty sure my code is at least running correctly, but I have
no freaking clue what it's scanning
L104[03:27:15] *
Amanda looks over, nods at Elfi's off-by-one and invslid pointer
redirection drawings
L105[03:28:45] *
Amanda tucks in, laying her head by Elfi's body,
zzzmews
L106[03:28:57] <Amanda> Night nerds
L107[03:29:13] <Izaya> o/
L108[03:30:06] <Amanda> %remindme 7h
reorganize mgw, check on The Wall, prepare for xenocide
L109[03:30:07] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"reorganize mgw, check on The Wall, prepare for xenocide"
in 7h at 09/18/2021 10:30:07 AM
L110[03:30:50] <Izaya> xenocide?
L112[03:32:09] <Amanda> They're biters,
they're hardly capible of feeling any emotions, let alone
suffering
L113[03:32:54] <Amanda> Maybe I should
copy my save onto a homelab server so I can leave stuff running
while I sleep
L114[03:33:19] <Amanda> %remindme 7h
consider moving the factory to Miranda
L115[03:33:20] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"consider moving the factory to Miranda" in 7h at
09/18/2021 10:33:20 AM
L116[03:33:41] <Amanda> (surely nothing
terrible ever happen in industry on Miranda!)
L117[03:34:08] <Amanda> Anyways, night
nerds for real now
L121[03:55:55]
<ThePiGuy24> typo in the url, seems to be
intended to be abortions rather than abortion
L122[04:00:16]
<ThePiGuy24> while i dont quite agree on
your stance on abortion itself, i do agree that proper sex ed is
the right route to go about reducing unwanted pregnancies
though
L123[04:06:08]
<Ocawesome101> The url is not in fact
typod
L124[04:06:51]
<ThePiGuy24> the 404 im getting
disagrees
L125[04:07:30]
<Michiyo>
What they said
L126[04:12:35]
<Ariri> i
third that
L128[04:13:33]
<CyborgPotato> Try Balsa flight sim, ya
might like that (related)
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<Forecaster> %sip
L133[05:22:41] <MichiBot> You drink a
smooth blue potion (New!). Forecaster's eyes glow the color of
coralcreep until they say the phrase "Wat
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious".
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L135[05:47:22] <CompanionCube> Izaya: re:
hate plus, surely it's a sitting simulator
L136[05:48:00] <CompanionCube> much like
the first game, all the action takes place in a very confined
place.
L137[05:50:05] <CompanionCube> also i just
remembered it's the same time period as lee
L138[05:50:29] <CompanionCube> if it
wasn't a PITA i'd have a good nickname to yoink on freenode
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L149[09:42:35]
<Kristopher38> >techwiz78: Question,
which axis does the width and dept???
L150[09:42:35]
<Kristopher38> Geolyzer Wiki has an
answer
L151[09:43:21]
<Kristopher38> I'm the one who wrote about
it but I've since forgotten
L152[10:30:08] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
reorganize mgw, check on The Wall, prepare for xenocide
L153[10:33:21] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
consider moving the factory to Miranda
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L159[12:25:26] <DiamondDemon> hi
L160[12:25:58] <DiamondDemon> anyone in
minecraft rn
L161[12:26:39]
<Forecaster> I imagine thousands of people
play minecraft at any given moment
L162[12:26:46] <DiamondDemon> i am
powering this computer with an IC2 nuclear reactor
L163[12:26:48]
<Forecaster> if you mean here, probably
not
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L166[12:51:44] <Amanda> Izaya: the iron
gear ones not true for me. I can't remember to think enough about
ratios. If something's slow, I throw more machines at it with no
consistency or regard for the dependencies of that machine
L167[12:52:44] <Amanda> Occasionally I'll
hit alt-x and check the ratios got a small part of my sprawling
monstrosity
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L169[13:07:35] <Inari> nep
L170[13:09:39]
<Forecaster> %sip
L171[13:09:39] <MichiBot> You drink a
prickly currentcorn potion (New!). Forecaster feels a strong urge
to recycle the potion bottle.
L172[13:16:06] <dequbed> Izaya: End Xeno
suffering? Oh yes we will end having to suffer the xenos.
(◕ᴗ◕✿)
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<CyborgPotato> %tonk
L175[13:47:56] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CyborgPotato, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 17
hours, 43 minutes and 16 seconds this time. 16 hours, 31 minutes
and 15 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 12 minutes and 1
second!
L176[13:53:09]
<Vaur>
oof
L177[13:53:23]
<Vaur> at
some point people are going to start to run out of attempt 😄
L178[14:07:08]
<CyborgPotato> i was too lazy to check the
time, thought I hadn't seen it in a while. Oh whale
L179[14:14:06]
<Forecaster> oh whale indeed
L180[14:14:35]
<Forecaster> I will catch that well, Moby
Dick!
L181[14:17:53]
<CyborgPotato> 😆
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L185[15:35:17] <MichiBot>
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L186[15:36:55] <Amanda> Inari: wat
L187[15:37:07] <Inari> Amanda: ? :D
L188[15:37:33] <Inari> Don't you know that
"the vaccine makes you magnetic" thing
L189[15:37:40] <Amanda> oh
L190[15:37:51] <Amanda> I try and forget
that kind of stupidity as soona s I hear it
L191[15:37:56] <Inari> haha
L192[15:39:08]
<SparkyFox>
see when using the printer, is there anyway to know if your
`writeln("texthere")` will go off the page?
L193[15:39:41]
<SparkyFox>
also, when you center, it goes really off the page
L194[15:40:15]
<Forecaster> count the lines and width of
the strings?
L195[15:41:43]
<SparkyFox>
for example `123456789012345678901234567890` goes off the page at
the 3rd 5 where as `iiiiii` can go on for 30 characters before
going off page
L196[15:42:03]
<SparkyFox>
in the book, it formats to a new line
L197[15:42:07]
<Forecaster> ah
L198[15:43:12]
<SparkyFox>
so if you're doing something like `"this is a pretty long
sentence that's going to be printed"` where would you know the
cut off point?
L199[15:43:35]
<SparkyFox>
only work around is printing that and seeing for yourself and
editing the string
L200[15:44:44] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24 had a
thing with character widths IIRC
L201[15:44:46]
<SparkyFox>
and for `writeln("text here", "center")` the
text goes waaay off page
L202[15:45:13]
<ThePiGuy24> Izaya: never finished it
though
L203[15:45:22]
<ThePiGuy24> and i dont even know where it
is anymore
L204[15:45:31] <Izaya> ah
L205[15:50:08]
<s_a_m>
so
L206[15:50:16]
<s_a_m>
Izaya: decided to start learning how to mod KSP
L207[15:50:19]
<s_a_m> by
config tweaking
L208[15:50:28]
<s_a_m> so
i added my own missile to KSP
L209[15:50:34]
<s_a_m>
(used the R77 model, though)
L210[15:50:48]
<s_a_m>
super fast, maneuverable, and long range missile
L211[15:50:56]
<s_a_m> but
a super narrow FOV
L212[15:51:18]
<s_a_m> so
ya gotta keep your nose on the target while you launch, 3head
L213[15:51:57] <Izaya> KSP is quite nice
to mod until you get into stuff that requires plugins
L214[15:54:49]
<s_a_m>
good thing i can write C#
L215[15:55:05] <Izaya> ah, you're
qualified to enter OOP hell
L216[15:55:10]
<s_a_m>
yes
L217[15:55:12]
<s_a_m>
unfortunately
L218[15:55:23]
<s_a_m> C#
is still nicer to write than C++
L219[15:58:45]
<s_a_m> i
need to set up an arctic airport
L220[15:58:50]
<s_a_m> for
my funny interceptor
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L222[16:36:51] <DiamondDemon> hi
there
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L224[17:33:36] <Amanda> Discord, pls, I've
been out of school for 12 years, stop asking me to sign in to my
"school social hub"
L226[17:35:59] <Izaya> Amanda: how do you
do fellow kids
L227[17:42:28]
<Ariri>
Izaya: isn't that like a phased array thingo
L228[17:42:53]
<Ariri> for
transmission
L229[17:44:14]
<Ocawesome101> @ThePiGuy24 indeed I
mistyped it
L230[17:44:22] <Izaya> no idea
L231[17:45:30]
<Ocawesome101> I may have not been
thinking clearly at 12am
L232[17:45:31] <Izaya> hmm, it does look
like these diagrams of phased arrays though
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L234[18:34:09] <dequbed> Izaya: Nah that's
looks like a cherenkov effect telescope for gamma rays. Close
though :P
L235[18:43:27]
<SparkyFox>
is there anything on how to add stuff to the rftm manual?
L236[18:43:40]
<SparkyFox>
or is anyone able to point my in the right direction
L237[18:43:56]
<SparkyFox>
or any mod examples
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L239[18:51:12] <dequbed> @Ariri also pff
phased array antennas for transmission. If you want real
transmission you get yourself curtain antennas. For if you want to
dunno, supply the entirety of Africa with german news and drown out
any local sender daring to step into your frequency range in the
process:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wertachtal_transmitter_site
:P
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L241[18:55:00] <pockey> need help
L242[18:55:00] <pockey> it seems that the
download link for the latest version of computronics isn't working
anymore
L243[18:55:29]
<Michiyo>
what link?
L245[18:56:26]
<Michiyo>
works for me?
L246[18:56:28] <Inari> works for me?
L247[18:56:33] <dequbed> cookies?
L248[18:56:41]
<SparkyFox>
it downloads forme
L249[18:56:41] <Inari> dequbed:
biscuits?
L250[18:56:51] <dequbed> Inari: HOW DARE
YOU? :<
L251[18:56:58] <Inari> coffee biscuits be
tasty
L252[18:57:00] <pockey> when I click it it
doesn't do anything for me
L253[18:57:09] <dequbed> Inari: But yes
please and thank you
L254[18:57:11]
<Michiyo>
click... click it better?
L255[18:57:18] <Inari> xD
L256[18:57:24] <Inari> Could be bad
routing
L257[18:57:33]
<Michiyo> I
just clicked the link you posted, and chrome prompted me to
download it... so shrug
L258[18:58:00]
<SparkyFox>
is there any mod examples that use the OC manual?
L259[18:58:20]
<Michiyo>
OpenSecurity does... I think :P
L260[18:58:25]
<SparkyFox>
thanks
L261[18:58:30] <pockey> used VPN and
finally it worked :D
L262[18:58:34]
<Michiyo>
ben added it
L263[18:59:04]
<Michiyo>
>SparkyFox: thanks
L265[18:59:14] <Inari> bad routing then I
guess, yeah
L266[18:59:14]
<SparkyFox>
thank you
L267[18:59:39] <Inari> meh, I kinda want
to play MC but as always I don't know any good modpacks and servers
xD
L268[18:59:45]
<Michiyo>
>pockey: used VPN and finally it worked :D
L269[18:59:45]
<Michiyo>
Vex's stuff is hosted on a standard OVH VPS in Canada... so yeah
bad routing maybe... nothing special about it.
L270[19:00:15]
<Michiyo>
oooooh
L271[19:00:25]
<Michiyo> I
see the issue! huh wtf chrome
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L273[19:01:01]
<SparkyFox>
looks the same as how OP does it too, still reading through it
though
L274[19:01:05]
<Michiyo>
```Mixed Content: The site at '<URL>' was loaded over a
secure connection, but the file at '<URL>' was redirected
through an insecure connection. This file should be served over
HTTPS. This download has been blocked. See <URL> for more
details.``` The links to the file subdomain are http, the wiki is
https.. and chrome flips out of you try to click the link to the
file site from the wiki
L275[19:01:53] <pockey> that's where the
fault lies
L276[19:02:29] <pockey> when I add
"s" at the end of "http" the download works as
intended
L278[19:03:01]
<Michiyo>
yeah, the files site supports https, I made sure of it when I setup
the subdomain.. no idea why vex is linking http everywhere
L279[19:04:36]
<Michiyo>
@Vexatos You are going to want to update your links on your wiki to
point to https instead of http... chrome is not letting folks
download your mod as of... like a year ago
L281[19:08:01] <pockey> Also I would like
to thank you for helping me figure out the problem :)
L282[19:10:02] <Ariri> dequbed, phased
array good for long-range though
L283[19:10:20] <Ariri> but yes, beeg
tower
L284[19:13:42] <dequbed> Ariri: Did you
miss the "shower Africa from Germany" part? Last I
checked they aren't neighbours :P
L285[19:14:51]
<s_a_m>
a
L286[19:14:53]
<s_a_m>
woo
L287[19:14:56]
<s_a_m> sam
is here
L288[19:15:05]
<Michiyo>
Everyone is neighbors with a big enough fusion reactor
L289[19:15:45]
<s_a_m> sam
got tired of KSP not cooperating with him
L290[19:16:00] <dequbed> @Michiyo well I
mean.. you're not even wrong there.
L292[19:27:19] <Vexatos> @Michiyo
wot
L293[19:27:23] <Vexatos> well good to
know
L294[19:28:05]
<Michiyo>
Yeah, I was really confused myself, until I opened up the chrome
console and clicked a link out to the files subdomain
L295[19:28:44] <Vexatos> done
L296[19:29:17]
<Michiyo>
Confirmed, can download via chrome now by just clicking the
link
L297[19:29:24] <Vexatos> whack
L298[19:29:30] <Amanda> %choose halucinate
or take over the western world
L299[19:29:31] <MichiBot> Amanda: I
received a message from future you, said to go with
"halucinate".
L300[19:29:37] <Amanda> sounds good
L302[19:30:14]
<Michiyo>
Yeah, first link is, the 3rd link is dead
L303[19:30:47] <Vexatos> yea the old
mirror is long gone
L304[19:31:26] <Inari> Any new and
exciting tech/computer mods one should be aware of? :p
L305[19:33:08] <dequbed> OC2 :P
L306[19:34:24] <Inari> That exists?
:p
L308[19:38:14] <Inari> interesting
L309[19:38:32] <Inari> I see he learned
from OC and uses Java now
L310[19:40:38] <Inari> no precompiled
though, sad
L311[19:40:48] <Hawk777> I was wondering,
what’s the mod-compatibility picture looking like for OC2? OC had
support for a *lot* of mods’ blocks and machines (whether in OC
itself, or in the mod, or in third-party bridge mods). How is it
for OC2? Things like Project Red bundled cables, Immersive
Engineering machines, Applied Energistics ME networks, and so
on?
L312[19:41:15] <dequbed> OC2 is pre-alpha
it-barely-works-and-is-still-breaking-everything
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L314[19:41:43] <Amanda> Inari: it's on the
same CI server as the OC1 builds, but not currently advertised
becaus eo fwhat dequbed said
L315[19:42:21] <Hawk777> Ah, I figured
“While the mod isn't quite yet ready for release due to some
remaining technical and usability issues, the API should be mostly
stable at this point” meant it was a bit further along than
that.
L316[19:42:25] <Inari> OC2 will largely
have the same issues as OC for me. It's made as an individual mod
in an existing ecosystem of techmods. No mods will rely on you
using OC2, and a lot of mods will have less options for OC2 than
for either their own automation blocks or manual stuff
L317[19:42:57] <Hawk777> Hm, my experience
with Immersive Engineering in particular is the opposite—OC is
actually the only way to obtain certain pieces of information from
the IE machines.
L318[19:43:21] <Inari> Like?
L319[19:44:05] <Hawk777> The example I
have at hand right now isn’t exactly IE, it’s Immersive Technology,
but: RPM of a steam turbine.
L320[19:44:36] <Inari> Right, I don't know
much about that mod, but what do you actually use the RPM number
for
L321[19:44:39] <Izaya> IE addons are
somewhat iffy about OC compat I find
L322[19:44:59] <Izaya> Immersive Petroleum
seems to have mostly inhereted compatibility
L323[19:45:06] <dequbed> Hawk777:
"Some remaining usability issues" like being able to
sensible get your own programs on the computers, have any IO
whatsoever both with the real world as with the MC world :P
L324[19:45:40] <Amanda> and because of how
ItemStacks are serialised, they'll get force-casted to a byte
L325[19:45:46] <Hawk777> Inari: Well, RPM
numbers for IE turbines are actually pretty useful, because the
turbines have nonlinear response to fuel burn (due to clamping at
1800 RPM), so you can read the RPM and decide whether to run 100%
or a reduced duty cycle for lower fuel consumption.
L326[19:46:04] <Inari> I guess thats nice
at least
L327[19:46:17] <Inari> I wish there was
more stuff where havnig a computer is actually either required or
benefiical xD
L328[19:46:59] <Hawk777> Lots of the IE
machines have good OC support actually. The ore crusher for
example, you can interrogate its stored energy and also the queue
of items that have been dropped into it and not processed
yet.
L329[19:47:31] <Hawk777> dequbed: Haha OK,
those sound like more than just a few issues!
L330[19:47:34] <Inari> I guess, doesn't
sound particularly useful though
L331[19:48:44] <Inari> anywho, I need to
go and ifnd a nice techmodded themed server someday that isn't a
lagfest, a ghost town, or cash shop ville
L332[19:49:27] <Amanda> I, too, wish to
see a unicorn, Inari
L333[19:49:37] <Inari> :p
L334[19:49:46] <Inari> I mean, I did play
on one such before
L335[19:50:13] <Inari> sadly it died
L336[19:51:00] <Hawk777> I *ran* a small
one many years ago. Then nobody logged in for a year. Including me.
So I killed it.
L337[19:51:20] <Hawk777> Sigh.
L338[19:52:18] <Inari> in which way was it
themed?
L339[19:53:05] <Izaya> I can say that I
have one that's meeting 3/3 of those requirements, unless you're
outside Australia or NZ
L340[19:53:36] <Inari> Oh? :p Well ping
lag is also annoying, mostly meant TPS lag
L341[19:54:04] <Izaya> that said, it's
mostly not a ghost town because I play with my nephew and other
family a few times a week :p
L342[19:54:12] <Inari> haha
L343[19:54:32] <Inari> There were 4
requirements though
L344[19:54:46] <Izaya> but yeah, oh,
techmodded was there too
L345[19:54:49]
<Vaur> part
from my early minecraft days I've never played on a server
L346[19:54:57]
<Vaur> (and
it was vanilla)
L347[19:55:16] <Izaya> well, [x]
techmodded, [x] not a ghost town, [x] not a lagfest, [x] no
microtransactions
L349[19:55:28]
<Michiyo> I
mean, I have 2.5 of those :P
L350[19:55:35] <Inari> [x] themed?
L351[19:55:52] <Izaya> Themed? Sort
of.
L352[19:56:01] <Izaya> It's set up to
strongly encourage cooperation and citybuilding
L353[19:56:19] <Izaya> but the low server
population has resulted in everyone living in one big castle, which
is a city of a sort, I suppose
L354[19:56:25]
<SparkyFox>
does your manual package need to start with `pcl.`?
L355[19:56:36] <Inari> thats nice at
least, depending on what that means exactly. Just kinda bored with
"Oh yeah, we ahve an MC server, go build something somewhere
or something, idc"
L356[19:56:40]
<SparkyFox>
example `pcl.modname.manual`
L357[19:57:36]
<Michiyo>
define 'need' my mods use pcl, because it's short for
PC-Logix
L358[19:58:12]
<Michiyo>
my... mostly dead computer repair business that I used to run
before I moved.
L359[19:58:27] <Izaya> Inari: outside the
walls are dark and scary, anything worth doing is worth doing
big
L360[19:59:04] <Izaya> (in practice,
monsters are significantly buffed, bigger machines are more
efficient, and the best materials (specifically, for tinkers'
stuff) are found only by "questing
L361[19:59:16] <Izaya> ", in the form
of procedural dungeons)
L362[20:00:05]
<SparkyFox>
well, my manual.java keeps creashing on
L364[20:00:06]
<SparkyFox>
(i'll need to grab the line again)
L365[20:00:08]
<SparkyFox>
holdon
L366[20:00:34]
<SparkyFox>
what was PC-Logicx about?
L367[20:00:44]
<Michiyo> I
just said.
L368[20:01:07]
<Michiyo>
Also have (had...? sigh) an IRC Network...
L369[20:01:59] <Inari> I feel ike IRC
would be better if you had a "supernetwork" to find
networks, and then each channel in a network would be like a
channel in a Discord guild
L370[20:02:16] <Inari> then again, you'd
have to nickserv 25000 accounts
L371[20:02:57]
<Michiyo> I
mean... back in the day that was nothing, IRC WAS huge.
L372[20:02:58] <dequbed> Izaya: is there a
sensible solution of sharding servers yet?
L373[20:03:23] <Izaya> I haven't seen one
for 1.12, but Hackaday of all things had a post about a solution
for 1.16
L374[20:03:38] <Izaya> didn't look into it
too deeply though
L375[20:04:39] <dequbed> Hm that'd be neat
tho
L376[20:04:39]
<SparkyFox>
you said computer service, so i was thinking an actual business
thing or a shop off some sort
L377[20:05:10] <dequbed> That ... that
*is* what that was referring to.
L378[20:05:13]
<Michiyo>
>SparkyFox: you said computer service, so i was thi???
L379[20:05:13]
<Michiyo>
Ran it out of my house, but yeah, in home service, repairs custom
builds.
L380[20:05:14]
<SparkyFox>
oh repair
L381[20:05:17]
<SparkyFox>
oops
L382[20:05:18] <Amanda> Bad news
guys
L383[20:05:29] <dequbed> *Some* people in
here actually work for their money :P
L384[20:05:30]
<SparkyFox>
thats pretty neat! too bad it went down 😦
L386[20:05:50] <Amanda> The star is turned
off during the daytime
L387[20:06:23]
<SparkyFox>
"daytime"
L388[20:06:47]
<Michiyo> I
moved from a town of ~9,000 to a city of over half a million. A few
more computer shops here than there :P
L389[20:07:28]
<Michiyo>
oh, ~8000 lol
L391[20:12:08]
<SparkyFox>
the ONLY thing im assuming is it not finding the icon? or something
within
L392[20:12:08]
<SparkyFox>
`tooltip, homepage`
L393[20:12:52]
<SparkyFox>
or if it was the package needing to start with `pc-l`
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L395[20:16:02]
<SparkyFox>
hasshe now
L396[20:17:03] <ass> asshe??
L397[20:17:10] <ass> thats me
L398[20:18:49]
<s_a_m>
Izaya: what if i made a minitel compatible library with multiple
backends for networking
L399[20:18:50]
<s_a_m>
:o
L400[20:18:57]
<SparkyFox>
its a mix of has she/has he with a spin on your name
L402[20:19:33] <Izaya> s_a_m: the API is
intentionally generic
L404[20:20:04] <ass> helo anime
L405[20:20:13] <Izaya> if you're going to
do that, may I suggest rip the implementation rather than trying to
wrap it
L406[20:20:15]
<Vaur> how
bad is it that I'm only discovering multimc today ? 🤣
L407[20:20:17] <ass> helo evryon
L408[20:20:30] <CompanionCube> Vaur:
very
L409[20:20:43] <ass> thats rued y
ignoratieing me
L410[20:20:52] <CompanionCube> imagine
using the vanilla launcher
L411[20:20:53] <CompanionCube>
cringe
L412[20:21:09] <ass> imagine being
companioncube
L413[20:21:16] <CompanionCube> %bap
ass
L414[20:21:17] <MichiBot> CompanionCube
baps ass with imperialism!
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L416[20:21:53] <ass> fr fr
L417[20:23:14] <ass> do you duu you do
want wnat do you want to BAN ME??????????????????????
L418[20:23:41]
<s_a_m> so
you could do `net.open("mt:hostname", 80)` and it's
minitel or `net.open("tn:[D15E:A5ED:BEEF:BE1E]", 80)` for
tsukinet, etc etc
L419[20:24:42]
<s_a_m>
`D15E:A5ED:BEEF:BE1E` is now a reserved tsukinet address, it's now
my example address
L420[20:24:57] <Amanda> obvious troll is
obviout
L421[20:25:04] <Amanda> obvious even
L422[20:25:21] <ass> even
L423[20:25:31] <ass> imagine being named
AMANDA
L424[20:25:39] <ass> bruv
L425[20:25:46] <Izaya> this individual is
really ass
L426[20:25:54]
<Vaur> just
ignore him
L427[20:25:56]
<s_a_m> i
wonder if they're 13
L428[20:26:10] <Amanda> Shoo, go away, go
watch stuff on TV, damn children
L429[20:26:11]
<Vaur> he
will tire himself out, then leave
L430[20:26:11] <ass> i am sory
L431[20:26:12]
<ThePiGuy24> one of the more self
descriptive irc nicks in a while
L432[20:26:17] <Izaya> s_a_m: anyway yes
that was why I named it net originally, because it's super
generic
L433[20:26:19] <ass> i didnt mean to be
rude
L434[20:26:33]
<s_a_m>
Izaya: neat
L435[20:26:33] <ass> im sure you are a
great person
L436[20:26:35]
<ThePiGuy24> :doubt:
L437[20:26:38] <Amanda> and I'm the queen
of france.
L438[20:26:41]
<Vaur> what
did you mean to be then ?
L440[20:26:54] <Izaya> never ended up
writing any other backends and it made certain people angery so I
renamed the library to minitel
L441[20:26:56] <ass> funy
L443[20:29:28]
<s_a_m>
AAAA:B19B:00B5:F333 too, since i'm a very mature person
L444[20:29:57]
<Vaur> not
sure I'm getting what you meant
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L446[20:40:12] <Amanda> oh no, they left.
they were such good conversation partners too /s
L447[21:07:31]
<Michiyo>
lol... boobs.
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L449[21:16:35] <Amanda> %choose chair or
bed
L450[21:16:35] <MichiBot> Amanda: Hold on
tightly! "chair" is a wild ride!
L451[21:16:49] <Amanda> Inari: stop
shaking the chair, I'm trying to manage my factory
L452[21:22:10] <Inari> smh
L454[21:42:36] <Ariri> dequbed, I more so
mean looong-range
L455[21:42:42] <Ariri> see: Starlink
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<SparkyFox>
also, is there any tutorials on how to add to the manual?
L463[22:00:18]
<Michiyo>
IDK, like I said, ben added the manual stuff IIRC. also %stacktrace
:P
L466[22:03:48]
<SparkyFox>
the odd thing is though, when I shove in open security to see
results, it works fine on that end, so it defos works, just not in
my package
L467[22:07:08] <dequbed> Ariri: Honey,
Starlink is doing 500 km orbits. Germany->Afrika is 8000 km.
Yeah, phase array have application for satellite communication but
only the "I need to track really fast and efficiency isn't
relevant" kind. For really long range, that is stellar long
range, you don't need to fast tracking of phased array either.
Also, space is close. *really* close :P
L468[22:07:58] <Ariri> ...true
L469[22:08:04] <Ariri> i may have
forgotten that
L470[22:13:16] <dequbed> I do that all the
time too. Space is in all honestly a quarter hour away at highway
speeds. It's just that theres 6*10^24 kg of planet gaia behind you
wanting to not let you go at any cost.
L471[22:13:46] <Ariri> hunu
L472[22:13:53] <dequbed> And sadly, she
wins that tug of war more often than not
L473[22:13:53] <Ariri> humu*
L474[22:26:45]
<SparkyFox>
b r u h
L475[22:27:20]
<SparkyFox>
fixed the issue, so you do NEED your package be under `pcl.`
L477[22:29:55]
<SparkyFox>
i noticed that open sec and open print was both under pcl
aswell
L478[22:30:40] <Amanda> You sure you
didn't just copy-paste something wrong? That seems odd
L479[22:31:13]
<SparkyFox>
positive, though i'll quadruple check that
L480[22:31:30] <Amanda> That's meant to be
under a domain you own. Unlesss sangar set it up so that only oc
and @Michiyo's mods are able to use it, it seems more likely it's a
bad copy-paste
L481[22:32:18]
<Michiyo> I
very much doubt that anything is hardcoded to need pcl
anywhere.
L482[22:32:34]
<Michiyo>
pcl is just the prefix that I use on my mods.
L484[22:34:04]
<Michiyo>
and... yeah they don't use pcl...
L485[22:34:09]
<SparkyFox>
im honestly surprised
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L487[22:35:15]
<Michiyo>
You've got a bad copy/pasta somewhere... or something else fucky
going on. there is no hard requirement for a pcl. package
L488[22:35:37] <Amanda> hate when my
copy-pasta goes bad
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L490[22:41:36]
<SparkyFox>
nope, absolute nothing, no left over OpenPriniter or OpenSecurity,
templates, nothing
L491[22:41:40]
<SparkyFox>
all my code
L492[22:41:51]
<SparkyFox>
all imports are good
L493[22:44:09]
<SparkyFox>
i'll start a new mod completely from scratch to test it out
L496[22:47:57]
<SparkyFox>
socket
L497[22:48:32]
<SparkyFox>
haxor amazon for me 😛 im a BiT B
usY
L498[22:48:55]
<s_a_m>
what
L499[22:49:11]
<SparkyFox>
just me being me
L501[22:50:15]
<s_a_m>
lmao
L502[22:50:21]
<SparkyFox>
XD
L503[22:50:42]
<s_a_m> i'm
trying to figure out why sockets are being refused when i'm sure i
have the port open on the other machine
L505[22:50:56]
<SparkyFox>
hmm
L506[22:50:57]
<SparkyFox>
looking
L508[22:53:55]
<Michiyo>
Other mods use RTFM as well, none have had to use `pcl.` package
prefixes soooooooo take from that what you will
L510[23:07:50] <Amanda> show us
ManualPathProviderRFTM.java?
L511[23:11:17]
<SparkyFox>
ok
L513[23:12:35]
<s_a_m> got
a convo back and forth
L514[23:12:37]
<s_a_m>
but
L515[23:12:41]
<s_a_m> it
locks up on read
L516[23:13:47] <Amanda> @SparkyFox the
error is happening on this line:
`if(FMLCommonHandler.instance().getEffectiveSide().equals(Side.CLIENT))`
L517[23:14:29]
<SparkyFox>
ahhh how'd i miss that
L518[23:14:39]
<SparkyFox>
fanks, i'll have a look
L519[23:16:15]
<SparkyFox>
ohhh hecc! i need the `.equals(Side.CLIENT))` to point to my
client
L520[23:16:40]
<SparkyFox>
eeesh, ok yeah, sorry, thanks for checking and helping
L522[23:27:51] <Amanda> %blame the endless
march of time, ever present, and uncaring
L523[23:27:51] *
MichiBot blames the endless march of time, ever present, and
uncaring for adding fucked politics to the inventory!
L524[23:30:34] <Amanda> %choose rain box
or continue poking idly at config
L525[23:30:35] <MichiBot> Amanda: If I
had a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "rain
box"
L526[23:30:42]
<Michiyo>
Acetone in open cuts hurts.....
L527[23:30:44]
<Michiyo>
owwww
L528[23:33:33] *
Amanda meows at the wound, demands it stop hurting