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L1[00:02:06] <prisma> hmm, I'm going to need a sort of markup language for structure parsing
L2[00:15:44] <prisma> Izaya: like, a menger sponge kinda thing?
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L4[01:33:54] <Kristo​pher38> Ever heard of backrooms?
L5[01:34:09] <Kristo​pher38> I mean, the backrooms scp kind of thing
L6[01:34:15] <ThePi​Guy24> yes
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L9[03:30:02] <Amanda> /Me beams @kristopher38 into an endless residential staircass
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L12[03:31:49] <Amanda> %choose irradiate more or be responsible
L13[03:31:49] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I tried reading my tea leaves this morning. There was something about death and doom. Anyway, go with "be responsible"
L14[03:32:26] <Amanda> So what you're saying MichiBot is being responsible will bring about the end times 6 months early
L15[03:33:33] <Amanda> Welp, it's been a good simulation run, night nerds
L16[04:09:55] <Ocawes​ome101> got a minitel driver implemented in cynosure, i think
L17[04:10:01] <Ocawes​ome101> not able to test it right now sadly
L18[04:11:33] <s_​a_m> nice
L19[04:11:37] <s_​a_m> why can't you test it tho?
L20[04:11:41] <s_​a_m> ocelot should let you test it
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L22[04:35:28] <Ocawes​ome101> @sam i've just thought, doesn't ocvm do network card emulation?
L23[04:36:31] <s_​a_m> i think?
L24[04:41:43] <Ocawes​ome101> can confirm, it does
L25[04:43:18] <Amanda> Indeed it does
L26[04:43:36] <Amanda> I think I even touched that code some, though I don't remember for what
L27[04:43:57] <Amanda> Oh, I think it was a cpu pegging on a race or similar
L28[04:44:45] <Amanda> Oh well, I wasn't responsible, so now the apocalypse is back on for March '22
L29[04:45:05] * Amanda curls up around elfi, passes out
L30[04:45:49] <Amanda> %remindme 6h15m update the chimera, download that other story you were irrey for
L31[04:45:49] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "update the chimera, download that other story you were irrey for" in 6h15m at 09/13/2021 11:00:49 AM
L32[04:51:31] <s_​a_m> anyways
L33[04:51:35] <s_​a_m> with lcpio in a working state
L34[04:51:42] <s_​a_m> i could probably work on tsukinet
L35[04:52:07] <s_​a_m> oh, and finish tsukifs
L36[04:52:13] <s_​a_m> and probably start work on tsuki
L37[05:02:59] <Ocawes​ome101> oh
L38[05:03:01] <Ocawes​ome101> for tsuki
L39[05:03:09] <Ocawes​ome101> do pre-emptive multitasking
L40[05:03:51] <Ocawes​ome101> i did a primitive form of it in Cynosure
L41[05:04:23] <Ocawes​ome101> @sam
L42[05:04:41] <s_​a_m> tfw no debug hooks
L43[05:04:58] <Ocawes​ome101> that does make it much more complex
L44[05:05:20] <Ocawes​ome101> https://github.com/ocawesome101/oc-cynosure/blob/dev/base/load.lua is where the magic happens
L45[05:05:31] <s_​a_m> yea i remember :P
L46[05:05:50] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm honestly quite pleased with it, for how little time it took to implement
L47[05:06:54] <Ocawes​ome101> though i did have to substantially rewrite it after the first draft and have been continually making one or two tweaks to it per update, i think i've finally got most of the kinks ironed out
L48[05:09:10] <s_​a_m> probably gonna make something similar with tsuki and also have a yield on component calls
L49[05:10:28] <Ocawes​ome101> i would do yield on component calls, except that most userspace programs or libraries virtually never directly do component calls
L50[05:10:40] <Ocawes​ome101> that was, in fact, one of my design goals
L51[05:12:09] <s_​a_m> fair enough
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L55[07:10:19] <Izaya> https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/lots-of-disks.png
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L57[07:50:58] <s_​a_m> i am pulling my hair out trying to figure out why the crc checksum function i wrote isn't working
L58[07:50:59] <s_​a_m> a
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L61[07:53:33] <R​ph> >deq​ubed: How would base64 encoded speed up an…
L62[07:53:33] <R​ph> Right now it uses a JSON array of numbers so encoding the payload with base64 could allow significantly more data transfered in one hvc packet
L63[07:55:38] <Izaya> was about to suggest hex but base64 would do better for raw data transferred
L64[07:56:15] <R​ph> Maybe even base 85 but I feel like encoding and decoding logic for that is more complex
L65[08:03:17] <s_​a_m> w t f
L66[08:06:21] <s_​a_m> i don't know what i did different
L67[08:06:23] <s_​a_m> but it works now
L68[08:07:18] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L69[08:07:19] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forecaster, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 12 hours, 33 minutes and 11 seconds this time. 12 hours, 32 minutes and 11 seconds were wasted! Missed by 59 seconds!
L70[08:07:26] <Forec​aster> Dammit!
L71[08:07:30] <s_​a_m> o h
L72[08:07:39] <s_​a_m> i used `~` instead of `&`
L73[08:26:50] <s_​a_m> [x] nice, that works https://tinyurl.com/yj5a6d4p
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L77[11:00:50] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: update the chimera, download that other story you were irrey for
L78[11:24:59] <dequbed> @Rph Ah I didn't realize it transfered data in the veritable XML bytes format
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L80[11:34:50] <R​ph> yeah, that's the primary performance downfall right now it seems
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L82[11:38:01] <dequbed> @Rph I mean at that point you could probably go for LZ then base64 for even better transfer
L83[11:39:52] <R​ph> the computers have gzip built in
L84[11:39:57] <R​ph> but i already gzip my stuff prior to transfer
L85[11:40:09] <R​ph> i don't think applying any non-trivial encoding on the transfer layer is a good idea
L86[11:40:20] <R​ph> base64 seems simple enough to decode
L87[11:43:00] <dequbed> @Rph gzip aka the LZSS type DEFLATE algorithm :P
L88[11:43:20] <dequbed> And yes, base64 is pretty fast to *code. Usually the limit is your memory bus, not your CPU ^^
L89[11:45:27] <R​ph> >deq​ubed: <@102038103463567360> gzip aka the L…
L90[11:45:27] <R​ph> the primary point here is that enforcing the reader to ship a non-trivial decoding alghoritm isn't the best idea
L91[11:45:36] <R​ph> perhaps setting a transfer encoding in the file request could be a viable option though
L92[11:45:51] <R​ph> request file, with the gzip encoding, or request file without an encoding
L93[11:48:07] <dequbed> Uh I think now we're talking past each other. But regardless, gzip isn't an encoding format, it's a compression tool using the DEFLATE algorithm. And I'm not for forcing anybody to use anything but you're already using this "non-trivial decoding algoritm" by yourself :P
L94[11:56:29] <s_​a_m> so
L95[11:56:33] <s_​a_m> working on tsukinet again
L96[11:56:44] <s_​a_m> feeling good after seeing an address pop up on a screen in OC
L97[11:57:01] <s_​a_m> https://tinyurl.com/yk36l7n2
L98[11:57:25] <s_​a_m> we 37f3:f747:7531:b1ca now
L99[12:00:40] <s_​a_m> i mean, it was really as simple as getting the modem component address, grabbing the last 48 bits of it, and getting the crc16 checksum of em
L100[12:02:03] <Z0id​berg> You knpw, for a scale of OC a BGP like router interface seems kinda useful and easy
L101[12:02:33] <s_​a_m> talking about networking summons zoidberg
L102[12:03:07] <Z0id​berg> lol
L103[12:03:12] <s_​a_m> anyways, currently working on the arp portion of it since that's gonna be required for literally everything else
L104[12:03:27] <s_​a_m> can't send datagrams or open sockets if you don't know where to send the packets
L105[12:03:50] <Z0id​berg> Gotta port trotwood to risc-v
L106[12:03:56] <s_​a_m> hue
L107[12:04:08] <s_​a_m> and i'll make a tsukinet stack for linux :P
L108[12:04:29] <Z0id​berg> trotwood uses process IDs for addresses
L109[12:05:12] <Z0id​berg> which are floating point numbers of N.PID where N is the node # in the cluster and PID is the pid of the process sending / receiving the message on that node
L110[12:06:56] <s_​a_m> it's all fun and games until you gotta `#include <tsukinet/tnsk.h>` and `tnskconnect(TNFLAGS_RELIABLE);`
L111[12:06:58] <Z0id​berg> of course the node ID is transformed into a computer's UUID
L112[12:07:05] <Z0id​berg> or modems, really
L113[12:07:25] <s_​a_m> i have no idea how i'm gonna do actual routing like how i plan to in OC
L114[12:07:27] <s_​a_m> oh well
L115[12:07:32] <s_​a_m> i'll cross that bridge when i get there
L116[12:07:41] <Z0id​berg> @sam Floating point precision on the output of a % b
L117[12:08:03] <s_​a_m> >Z0id​berg: <@!175686996461617162> Floating point …
L118[12:08:03] <s_​a_m> what
L119[12:08:12] <Z0id​berg> its a fun way to hate yourself
L120[12:08:14] <s_​a_m> oh
L121[12:08:15] <s_​a_m> lmao
L122[12:09:19] <s_​a_m> tsukinet uses 64 bit addresses, but only 48 bits are actually data, the rest is a checksum so you can instantly know if something broke catastrophically somewhere
L123[12:09:22] <s_​a_m> :^)
L124[12:09:40] <s_​a_m> packets also (sometimes) have checksums
L125[12:09:59] <Z0id​berg> do you perform addition checksums or subtraction checksums
L126[12:10:05] <s_​a_m> open the connection with the reliable flag, it'll calculate the CRC-16/XMODEM checksum
L127[12:10:15] <s_​a_m> for each
L128[12:10:17] <s_​a_m> and every
L129[12:10:18] <s_​a_m> packet
L130[12:10:26] <Z0id​berg> The gameboy uses subtraction checksums
L131[12:11:44] <Z0id​berg> xmodem eh
L132[12:12:16] <Z0id​berg> xmodem is pretty nice for transferring files
L133[12:12:28] <s_​a_m> also you can have semi-cursed reliable datagrams
L134[12:12:32] <s_​a_m> B)
L135[12:12:49] <Z0id​berg> I use xmodem with uboot on things
L136[12:12:57] <s_​a_m> hue
L137[12:13:17] <s_​a_m> i just used the xmodem polynomial since it's pretty common
L138[12:13:33] <s_​a_m> used in a buncha other things besides xmodem
L139[12:13:43] <s_​a_m> MMCs and uhhh
L140[12:14:13] <s_​a_m> i forgot what
L141[12:14:29] <s_​a_m> i only specifically remember seeing something about MMCs
L142[12:15:05] <Z0id​berg> what you need, is a brand new computer with rambus
L143[12:15:12] <s_​a_m> do i really?
L144[12:15:19] <s_​a_m> that sounds like a lot of heat
L145[12:17:15] <Z0id​berg> heat is good
L146[12:17:21] <Z0id​berg> gets you through winter
L147[12:18:30] <s_​a_m> heh
L148[12:18:44] <s_​a_m> the closest i have are DDR2-FBDIMMS
L149[12:18:50] <s_​a_m> which run pretty toasty
L150[12:18:57] <s_​a_m> toastier than the CPUs i have in the server
L151[12:19:55] <s_​a_m> toasty https://tinyurl.com/ydubpjwg
L152[12:20:06] <s_​a_m> 😋
L153[12:20:32] <Z0id​berg> I have My computer is too old to have temp sensors
L154[12:20:38] <s_​a_m> wew
L155[12:22:08] <s_​a_m> huh
L156[12:22:33] <s_​a_m> coulda sword this was 800MHz, but i guess i got 667 because i didn't trust 800 to not shit the bed or something
L157[12:24:07] <Z0id​berg> ooh
L158[12:24:10] <Z0id​berg> my comp is 400
L159[12:24:17] <Z0id​berg> My new board is 66 though
L160[12:24:32] <s_​a_m> heh
L161[12:26:42] <Ko​dos> Okay so stupid question about Lua. If I’m doing while x <= 10000 do, I know if x goes over 10k it stops doing said code. But as long as I’m not exiting the program will the code resume if x goes back under will it resume?
L162[12:31:39] <Z0id​berg> No, because it will exit the while block. You would need it to jump back in there from some external expression somehow, like a goto, or being iterayed elsewhere, a function call, etc
L163[12:31:50] <Z0id​berg> once the while loop is done it moves on to the next expression
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L165[12:40:07] <s_​a_m> anyways, i plan on making it decently easy to extend tsukinet if you really want :)
L166[12:40:50] <s_​a_m> though, the more i think about it
L167[12:41:13] <s_​a_m> the more i wonder if i even need subprotocols—wait, yeah i do
L168[12:41:26] <s_​a_m> for ports lmao
L169[12:44:00] <Z0id​berg> Why not port RINA?
L170[12:45:11] <s_​a_m> hm?
L171[12:48:39] <Z0id​berg> What we were supposed to have instead of TCP, still talked about today, but TCP kinda took over before RINA could get any hold:
L172[12:48:40] <Z0id​berg> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_Internetwork_Architecture
L173[12:48:58] <Z0id​berg> It makes it much more simple in that, all networking is a form of IPC
L174[12:49:32] <Z0id​berg> and instead of having 7 layers like the OSI model, or 5 in the TCP model, you have an infinite number of recursive IPC pipelines and which one you are on is not really your concern
L175[12:49:45] <s_​a_m> wack
L176[12:50:29] <Z0id​berg> https://tinyurl.com/yhs87ex8
L177[12:50:34] <Z0id​berg> Check that out
L178[12:51:05] <Z0id​berg> It's just a series of tubes
L179[12:51:06] <Z0id​berg> 😛
L180[12:52:18] <s_​a_m> the more i think about it, the more i kinda just wanna say "fuck it, ports are in the base tsukinet protocol"
L181[12:52:26] <Z0id​berg> lol
L182[12:52:43] <s_​a_m> who needs subprotocols if the main protocol can do most things if you ask it nicely
L183[12:53:35] <Z0id​berg> ports are also on modems in oc but theres a limit to how many you can open at once which is hilarious and unrealistic since ports are just a virtual number
L184[12:53:44] <s_​a_m> need a one off message? `tn.send(addr, port, msg[, flags[, ttl]])`
L185[12:54:18] <Z0id​berg> ttl -1
L186[12:54:23] <Z0id​berg> what happens
L187[12:55:13] <s_​a_m> out of bounds error
L188[12:55:13] <s_​a_m> ez
L189[12:55:21] <Z0id​berg> 0?
L190[12:55:31] <s_​a_m> need a socket? `tn.open(addr, port[, flags[, ttl]])`
L191[12:55:42] <s_​a_m> oh, instantly discarded
L192[12:55:52] <s_​a_m> if the reliable flag is set, it raises an i/o error
L193[12:57:15] <s_​a_m> i'm debating if i should allow broadcast sockets
L194[12:57:30] <s_​a_m> it sounds fucking hilarious
L195[13:01:54] <s_​a_m> `tn.connect("ffff:ffff:ffff:97df", 42069, tn.flags.broadcast | tn.flags.reliable)` to instantly get cursed bybeveryone on the network
L196[13:02:09] <s_​a_m> DDoS yourself with this one simple trick
L197[14:35:18] <Spar​kyFox> how do you exactly do `openprinter.print():boolean`? where you you put true/false
L198[14:36:15] <ThePi​Guy24> boolean is the return type, its returns `true` if it successfully printed, `false` if it failed
L199[14:36:38] <Spar​kyFox> i know, i mean...
L200[14:39:04] <Spar​kyFox> in the book it says "op.print():boolean" calling this method returns all previous calls written to writeln to the printer, but anything i do errors, like `openprinter.print():true` `openprinter.print():boolean true`
L201[14:39:15] <Spar​kyFox> i cant really find its proper usage
L202[14:45:16] <s_​a_m> [narrows eyes] https://tinyurl.com/ydm7u3at
L203[14:45:21] <s_​a_m> ok, fedboy
L204[14:45:23] <Spar​kyFox> ohh
L205[14:45:48] <Spar​kyFox> as in print() there is no :boolean its the return value
L206[14:45:55] <Spar​kyFox> that caught me of
L207[14:45:57] <Spar​kyFox> off
L208[14:48:47] <Spar​kyFox> the way i read it, was `:boolean` was a separate thing that would allow two `prints()`'s to copy the last `writeln("")` instead of doing a new `writeln("")` one after another
L209[14:50:27] <Spar​kyFox> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/cokugoqotu
L210[14:58:17] <vet​boss> Someone help https://tinyurl.com/yh4wcbeo
L211[14:58:37] <vet​boss> Too long without yielding
L212[14:58:43] <Ocawes​ome101> post code
L213[14:58:44] <Spar​kyFox> is it lagging?
L214[14:58:50] <vet​boss> Yes
L215[14:58:52] <vet​boss> Idk why
L216[14:58:56] <Spar​kyFox> ah change your launcher
L217[14:59:04] <Ocawes​ome101> launcher has nothing to do wit hit
L218[14:59:05] <Spar​kyFox> or redownload a new minecraft launcher
L219[14:59:06] <vet​boss> To what?
L220[14:59:16] <Spar​kyFox> >Ocawes​ome101: launcher has nothing to do wit hit
L221[14:59:16] <Spar​kyFox> it does
L222[14:59:21] <Ocawes​ome101> ?!
L223[14:59:23] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L224[14:59:24] <vet​boss> I am using the diefault one
L225[14:59:24] <Spar​kyFox> fixed mine with this exact issue
L226[14:59:26] <Ocawes​ome101> it doesn't
L227[14:59:33] <Spar​kyFox> it does
L228[14:59:40] <vet​boss> Is it a mod that fixes lag?
L229[14:59:56] <vet​boss> What launcher did you fix it with?
L230[14:59:56] <Spar​kyFox> basically redownload minecraft
L231[14:59:59] <Ocawes​ome101> unless you're really resource-constrained, in which case switching to MultiMC over the electron-based official launcher might help marginally
L232[15:00:11] <Ocawes​ome101> i have never had reinstalling minecraft fix a performance problem
L233[15:00:11] <Ocawes​ome101> ever
L234[15:00:26] <Spar​kyFox> https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download
L235[15:00:28] <vet​boss> hm how do I get MultiCraft?
L236[15:00:46] <Ocawes​ome101> just
L237[15:00:50] <Spar​kyFox> there, do that first before multiMC and if it still continues then do multiMC
L238[15:00:51] <Ocawes​ome101> don't bother reinstalling minecraft
L239[15:01:00] <Ocawes​ome101> and tell us what you're doing that's making it error @vetboss
L240[15:01:14] <vet​boss> I am trying to install the os
L241[15:01:18] <Ocawes​ome101> and @SparkyFox stop recommending they reinstall minecraft until they tell us what's going on
L242[15:01:28] <Ocawes​ome101> is this on a server or a local world? @vetboss
L243[15:01:37] <Spar​kyFox> beats confusing with multiMC
L244[15:01:40] <vet​boss> On a singleplayer world
L245[15:01:47] <vet​boss> Idk how to get this on a server btw
L246[15:01:50] <Ocawes​ome101> hm
L247[15:01:51] <Spar​kyFox> the issue they're having is the same issue i had
L248[15:01:58] <Ocawes​ome101> what tier of computer?
L249[15:02:03] <vet​boss> 3
L250[15:02:08] <Ocawes​ome101> try again
L251[15:02:14] <vet​boss> It is the same always
L252[15:02:15] <Spar​kyFox> vetboss, correct me, when you turn on any computer, the game freezes and lags for a bit and then it blue screens?
L253[15:02:26] <vet​boss> Yes
L254[15:02:27] <Spar​kyFox> even with `/oc_sc`
L255[15:02:43] <vet​boss> I have not tried that command
L256[15:02:46] <Ocawes​ome101> oh this is interesting
L257[15:02:49] <Spar​kyFox> then yeah, issue is something in the minecraft launcher
L258[15:02:53] <Ocawes​ome101> are you running any other mods?
L259[15:03:05] <vet​boss> Yes a lot actually
L260[15:03:17] <Ocawes​ome101> does this issue still happen with just OC?
L261[15:03:30] <vet​boss> idk
L262[15:03:35] <Ocawes​ome101> try it and see
L263[15:03:37] <Ocawes​ome101> and what specs does your computer have? (do you know?)
L264[15:03:42] <Ocawes​ome101> (irl computer)
L265[15:03:55] <Spar​kyFox> its honestly not the specs
L266[15:03:59] <Ocawes​ome101> uhhhh???
L267[15:04:10] <Ocawes​ome101> i see no reason why it'd be unrelated to specs
L268[15:04:22] <vet​boss> Well my gpu is super good why would it be the issue?
L269[15:04:27] <Ocawes​ome101> it's not a gpu issue
L270[15:04:31] <Ocawes​ome101> this is cpu-related
L271[15:04:31] <vet​boss> I normally get 200 to 300 fps
L272[15:04:33] <Spar​kyFox> ok tell me what you have(one sec)
L273[15:04:36] <Ocawes​ome101> oh
L274[15:04:38] <Ocawes​ome101> hmmm
L275[15:04:43] <Ocawes​ome101> are you running windows?
L276[15:04:58] <vet​boss> I am also using web display
L277[15:05:13] <Spar​kyFox> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/imorigoyek
L278[15:05:14] <Ocawes​ome101> ~~does webdisplay even still work?~~ oh right it requires windows
L279[15:05:33] <vet​boss> It still works yet
L280[15:05:45] <vet​boss> Yes
L281[15:05:49] <vet​boss> >Spar​kyFox: in your cdrive do you have:
L282[15:05:50] <vet​boss> `C:\Program …
L283[15:05:50] <vet​boss> Yes
L284[15:05:53] <Spar​kyFox> what one?
L285[15:05:57] <M​GR> lol
L286[15:06:13] <Ocawes​ome101> MGR: ?
L287[15:06:20] <vet​boss> Both actually but its the bottom one that is more
L288[15:06:27] <M​GR> I was reacting to the "Yes" answer to a question that wasn't a yes or no question
L289[15:06:35] <Ocawes​ome101> ic
L290[15:06:35] <Spar​kyFox> make sure youre launching from Minecraft_Launcher
L291[15:06:45] <vet​boss> I have
L292[15:06:50] <Spar​kyFox> and tell me what you get, THEN try launching from minecraft
L293[15:07:29] <vet​boss> It dose not say any errors when I launch it It is when I try to do install on the mod
L294[15:07:54] <Ocawes​ome101> are you able to boot into OpenOS? or does this happen while OpenOS is booting?
L295[15:08:03] <vet​boss> Should I use MultiMC?
L296[15:08:13] <vet​boss> It happens while booting
L297[15:08:17] <Ocawes​ome101> multimc is what i use
L298[15:08:20] <Ocawes​ome101> i don't see why it'd help though
L299[15:08:24] <Ocawes​ome101> also try updating java
L300[15:08:30] <Spar​kyFox> because its something in the files
L301[15:08:40] <Spar​kyFox> running something old
L302[15:08:44] <vet​boss> Ok dose it already have forge installed?
L303[15:08:51] <Ocawes​ome101> well then just remove everything in .minecraft/ that isn't saves
L304[15:09:00] <vet​boss> Ok.
L305[15:09:01] <Ocawes​ome101> https://adoptopenjdk.net
L306[15:09:18] <vet​boss> What dose that do?
L307[15:09:25] <Spar​kyFox> its javaJDK
L308[15:09:31] <Spar​kyFox> its for modding
L309[15:09:34] <vet​boss> Ok
L310[15:09:35] <Ocawes​ome101> tf no
L311[15:09:40] <Ocawes​ome101> it's a newer better JDK
L312[15:09:40] <Spar​kyFox> you only need it for modding
L313[15:09:42] <Ocawes​ome101> it's a newer better JDK/JRE [Edited]
L314[15:09:43] <vet​boss> Is it a better version that forge?
L315[15:09:47] <Ocawes​ome101> ????
L316[15:09:50] <Ocawes​ome101> it's a java runtime
L317[15:10:00] <Ocawes​ome101> has nothing to do with forge except that forge is written in java
L318[15:10:01] <vet​boss> So not better than forge?
L319[15:10:18] <Ocawes​ome101> and that minecraft is written in java, so minecraft requires a java runtime
L320[15:10:19] <Spar​kyFox> you dont need a JDK to run minecraft
L321[15:10:25] <vet​boss> Ok
L322[15:10:26] <Ocawes​ome101> no, but you need a JRE
L323[15:10:30] <Spar​kyFox> exactly
L324[15:10:32] <Ocawes​ome101> and OpenJDK provides a JRE
L325[15:10:36] <vet​boss> ok
L326[15:10:45] <vet​boss> then what do I set the jre as?
L327[15:10:50] <vet​boss> What verion?
L328[15:10:57] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yeczx35u
L329[15:10:59] <Spar​kyFox> latest
L330[15:11:02] <Ocawes​ome101> java 8
L331[15:11:09] <Ocawes​ome101> you need java 8 (OpenJDK 8)
L332[15:11:16] <Spar​kyFox> yeah
L333[15:11:18] <vet​boss> Ok not latest?
L334[15:11:19] <Ocawes​ome101> otherwise minecraft does weird things, particularly with forge
L335[15:11:26] <Spar​kyFox> latest java8
L336[15:11:27] <vet​boss> Ok
L337[15:11:42] <vet​boss> Open j9?
L338[15:11:45] <Spar​kyFox> 8
L339[15:11:54] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yfzhyong
L340[15:11:59] <Ocawes​ome101> yep
L341[15:12:04] <Ocawes​ome101> Latest release there
L342[15:12:04] <vet​boss> The other?
L343[15:12:19] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yzrquufw
L344[15:12:31] <Spar​kyFox> https://www.java.com/en/download/java8_update.jsp
L345[15:12:35] <Ocawes​ome101> HotSpot is fine
L346[15:12:36] <Spar​kyFox> if you just want the jre
L347[15:12:39] <Ocawes​ome101> @SparkyFox no
L348[15:12:42] <vet​boss> Ok
L349[15:12:46] <Ocawes​ome101> that's oracle's JRE, which is outdated
L350[15:12:53] <vet​boss> Ok.
L351[15:13:01] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yzzlsun8
L352[15:13:12] <Ocawes​ome101> now run that file @vetboss
L353[15:13:23] <vet​boss> The openjdk?
L354[15:13:32] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L355[15:13:35] <vet​boss> Ok
L356[15:13:44] <vet​boss> Now what?
L357[15:13:51] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yg2kuvfw
L358[15:14:04] <Ocawes​ome101> "next"
L359[15:14:12] <vet​boss> Then install?
L360[15:14:22] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L361[15:14:26] <vet​boss> ok
L362[15:14:47] <vet​boss> Ok done now what?
L363[15:15:02] <Spar​kyFox> keep pressing next until you see finish
L364[15:15:07] <vet​boss> I did
L365[15:15:08] <Spar​kyFox> let it do its thing
L366[15:15:15] <vet​boss> It's dont
L367[15:15:19] <vet​boss> done
L368[15:15:28] <Spar​kyFox> once thats done, download forge
L369[15:15:34] <vet​boss> I have.
L370[15:15:49] <vet​boss> I already have forge installer for minecraft installed
L371[15:15:56] <Ocawes​ome101> now go into the minecraft launcher and change the java runtime to OpenJDK
L372[15:16:07] <Ocawes​ome101> `C:\Program Files\OpenJDK` or similar
L373[15:16:16] <vet​boss> Won't it destroy everything then?
L374[15:16:38] <Ocawes​ome101> changing the java runtime?
L375[15:16:39] <Ocawes​ome101> lolno
L376[15:16:44] <vet​boss> Can I change back if I don't want it that way?
L377[15:16:44] <Spar​kyFox> `C:\Program Files\Eclipse Foundation\jdk-8.0.302.8-hotspot`
L378[15:16:55] <Ocawes​ome101> you can, but it shouldn't hurt anything
L379[15:17:03] <vet​boss> Ok.
L380[15:17:56] <Spar​kyFox> IF this doesnt fix it, can i take over?(i personally dont see the need for openJDK but whatever floats your boat 🙂 )
L381[15:18:14] <Spar​kyFox> if youre nto modding at least
L382[15:18:19] <vet​boss> Where is the minecraft launcher again?
L383[15:18:28] <Ocawes​ome101> uhhh
L384[15:18:29] <Ocawes​ome101> just
L385[15:18:34] <Ocawes​ome101> launch the launcher from the start menu
L386[15:18:47] <vet​boss> Oh not the folde
L387[15:19:02] <vet​boss> Now?
L388[15:19:10] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L389[15:19:52] <vet​boss> Where now+ https://tinyurl.com/ygq36u6r
L390[15:19:58] <Ocawes​ome101> the option to change the java runtime should be in the profile options menu
L391[15:20:04] <vet​boss> ok
L392[15:20:21] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ye2drzrd
L393[15:20:26] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L394[15:20:28] <Ocawes​ome101> sorry
L395[15:20:40] <Ocawes​ome101> the options for the minecraft installation
L396[15:20:44] <Ocawes​ome101> not your user
L397[15:20:48] <vet​boss> Ok
L398[15:20:57] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ye2rhrfc
L399[15:21:21] <Ocawes​ome101> "Installations" -> ???
L400[15:21:32] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yzxwy76z
L401[15:22:33] <Ocawes​ome101> find the installation you're using and go into its options
L402[15:22:44] <vet​boss> For the mods?
L403[15:23:04] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yjx7ygzl
L404[15:23:13] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L405[15:23:18] <Ocawes​ome101> click "More Options"
L406[15:23:26] <vet​boss> ok
L407[15:23:52] <vet​boss> Should I save the already one somewhere?
L408[15:24:11] <vet​boss> Just in case something goes wrong?
L409[15:24:18] <Ocawes​ome101> shouldn't matter
L410[15:24:27] <Ocawes​ome101> if you want to then go ahead
L411[15:24:27] <vet​boss> But I don't want to lose anything
L412[15:26:04] <Ocawes​ome101> sparkyfox over here typing out an essay
L413[15:26:23] <Spar​kyFox> aye you bet i am
L414[15:26:41] <Spar​kyFox> got a method incase your one still doesnt fix it
L415[15:27:16] <vet​boss> Well what now?
L416[15:27:35] <Ocawes​ome101> screenshot of the more options menu please
L417[15:27:42] <Ocawes​ome101> i remember little of the vanilla launcher
L418[15:27:57] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ygqy49us
L419[15:27:59] <Spar​kyFox> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/vefeminoza
L420[15:28:19] <Ocawes​ome101> in the "Java Executable" field click "Browse"
L421[15:28:27] <vet​boss> Ok
L422[15:29:00] <Ocawes​ome101> should be `C:\Program Files\Eclipse Foundation\jdk-8.0.302.8-hotspot\bin\java.exe`
L423[15:29:03] <Ocawes​ome101> or similar
L424[15:29:48] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ygjyqcpf
L425[15:30:08] <M​GR> :squint: you have the eclipse IDE installed?
L426[15:30:11] <Ocawes​ome101> now exit the settings pane (if necessary, save changes) and launch minecraft using that profile
L427[15:30:15] <M​GR> nevermind
L428[15:30:19] <Ocawes​ome101> no, it's because OpenJDK @MGR
L429[15:30:19] <Ocawes​ome101> lol
L430[15:30:30] <Spar​kyFox> lots of love
L431[15:30:35] <vet​boss> ok what about the multimc?
L432[15:30:36] <M​GR> Yeah, I made the connection
L433[15:30:49] <Ocawes​ome101> multimc is unnecessary for the moment
L434[15:30:59] <vet​boss> Ok but what if it would help?
L435[15:31:05] <Spar​kyFox> leave it for now
L436[15:31:07] <vet​boss> Ok
L437[15:31:27] <Ocawes​ome101> oh, and sparky, i see your issue was related to the version of java shipped with minecraft - that's precisely what this fixes
L438[15:31:39] <Spar​kyFox> ah
L439[15:31:39] <vet​boss> What about this? https://tinyurl.com/yjw9tyj5
L440[15:31:44] <vet​boss> Should it be open?
L441[15:32:02] <Ocawes​ome101> `javaw.exe` instead of `java.exe` might make that not happen
L442[15:32:13] <vet​boss> Oh
L443[15:32:13] <Ocawes​ome101> `java.exe` is probably marked to be run in a terminal
L444[15:32:21] <Spar​kyFox> i thought it was easier to just reinstall minecraft instead of going through openjdk
L445[15:32:26] <vet​boss> Ok
L446[15:32:37] <Ocawes​ome101> minecraft ships with JRE u75 or something like that, and i just had vetboss install u302
L447[15:32:52] <vet​boss> ok
L448[15:33:10] <Forec​aster> https://i.imgur.com/4u5NHvA.gif
L449[15:33:20] <Spar​kyFox> i guess on the bright side, modding is gonna have less isssues
L450[15:33:23] <vet​boss> testing it to see if it works
L451[15:33:38] <Ocawes​ome101> er, actually, minecraft ships with u51 🤢
L452[15:33:57] <vet​boss> It was less laggy at the start but now it is laggy but less
L453[15:34:09] <Ocawes​ome101> good, so it's fixed?
L454[15:34:11] <vet​boss> not enough energy
L455[15:34:35] <vet​boss> How do I make the not enough energy never show up again?
L456[15:34:42] <Ocawes​ome101> use a creative case
L457[15:34:56] <Ocawes​ome101> or disable energy requirements in the OpenComputers config
L458[15:35:02] <vet​boss> But I want to use a not creative case to feel the real one
L459[15:35:11] <vet​boss> Where is that?
L460[15:35:44] <Ocawes​ome101> `.minecraft/config/opencomputers/settings.cfg`
L461[15:35:46] <vet​boss> I am using enderio for the energy
L462[15:36:43] <Ocawes​ome101> well, if you hook up a conduit to the computer it might have enough energy
L463[15:36:52] <Ocawes​ome101> (you may also need a power adapter)
L464[15:36:58] <vet​boss> Ok
L465[15:37:05] <Spar​kyFox> do /oc_sc XD
L466[15:37:13] <Spar​kyFox> if you want instant computer
L467[15:37:19] <Spar​kyFox> just to test
L468[15:37:33] <vet​boss> lol
L469[15:38:49] <vet​boss> Where do I disable the power then?
L470[15:39:32] <vet​boss> Where in the settings?
L471[15:42:10] <Ocawes​ome101> `useEnergy` or something like that
L472[15:42:46] <vet​boss> ok
L473[15:43:09] <vet​boss> Nope
L474[15:46:50] <ThePi​Guy24> `ignorePower`
L475[15:47:29] <vet​boss> Thanks
L476[15:52:41] <vet​boss> Still the same took too long to yielding but now it is when I try to install it with a red error code
L477[15:52:52] <Ocawes​ome101> that's better than previously
L478[15:52:55] <Ocawes​ome101> screenshot?
L479[15:53:12] <vet​boss> It went away before I could screenshot it
L480[15:53:15] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L481[15:53:25] <vet​boss> I'll try again
L482[15:53:46] <Ocawes​ome101> you can also increase the time limit in the config (`timeout=SECONDS` on or near line 296)
L483[15:54:08] <vet​boss> Ok well can I reduce lag a bit more?
L484[15:54:10] <vet​boss> And how?
L485[15:54:25] <Ocawes​ome101> remove other mods other than OC
L486[15:54:32] <Ocawes​ome101> what CPU do you have, btw?
L487[15:54:37] <vet​boss> Ok but some of them is cool
L488[15:55:39] <vet​boss> Can the OpenComputers access websites?
L489[15:57:02] <Forec​aster> you can make internet requests with the internet card
L490[15:57:11] <Forec​aster> so in a sense, yes
L491[15:57:23] <vet​boss> So I can also watch youtube videos there?
L492[15:57:33] <Forec​aster> if by "access" you mean "type in a url and go to a website" then no
L493[15:57:41] <vet​boss> Oof
L494[15:57:48] <vet​boss> Can I make it do that tho?
L495[15:58:03] <ben_mkiv> no
L496[15:58:10] <vet​boss> Ok
L497[15:58:20] <Forec​aster> well, to an extent
L498[15:58:31] <ben_mkiv> well, maybe you can make a browser which is able to display text, but not videos
L499[15:58:37] <Forec​aster> you can't exactly render a website like a real browser
L500[15:58:45] <vet​boss> I can watch videos on webdisplay so why not on this mod as well?
L501[15:58:47] <Forec​aster> or run javascript, or a number of other things
L502[15:59:00] <ben_mkiv> because thats not the purpose of the mod
L503[15:59:01] <Forec​aster> because it wasn't made for it...
L504[15:59:08] <vet​boss> ok.
L505[15:59:18] <vet​boss> Do I need jei?
L506[15:59:24] ⇨ Joins: bpm140 (bpm140@fomalhaut.me)
L507[15:59:25] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yz5lcdcy
L508[15:59:26] <ben_mkiv> it helps alot
L509[15:59:26] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L510[15:59:31] <bpm140> LeshaInc: ntr
L511[15:59:33] <ben_mkiv> but you dont need it
L512[15:59:52] <vet​boss> Ok but I will keep it just incase I need it for some of the mods
L513[16:00:01] <LeshaInc> bpm140: tln
L514[16:00:08] <bpm140> LeshaInc: 1
L515[16:00:25] <vet​boss> Who is all these bots?
L516[16:00:36] <ben_mkiv> irc users
L517[16:00:40] <Forec​aster> %discorded
L518[16:00:41] <MichiBot> Cor​ded is a relay between IRC and Discord. It uses a webhook (most of the time) to send IRC messages to discord, which is why there is a Bot tag
L519[16:00:44] <vet​boss> How do I do that?
L520[16:01:06] <vet​boss> Is it like in minecraft?
L521[16:01:24] <Forec​aster> look up irc
L522[16:01:25] <vet​boss> via the mod?
L523[16:01:29] <vet​boss> Ok
L524[16:01:38] <vet​boss> Ok
L525[16:02:52] <vet​boss> It is still lagging
L526[16:03:11] <vet​boss> I have seen youtubers do this with smooth speed
L527[16:03:25] <vet​boss> But I can't get it to do the same
L528[16:04:07] <vet​boss> um https://tinyurl.com/yzqa8857
L529[16:13:03] ⇦ Quits: ben_mkiv (~ben_mkiv@88.130.157.137) (Ping timeout: 192 seconds)
L530[16:13:44] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ygagpx69
L531[16:13:58] <vet​boss> 0748ab7a-f1eb-483d-9992-8c6029343905
L532[16:15:03] <Z0id​berg> @vetboss whatchya building
L533[16:15:50] <vet​boss> What you mean?
L534[16:16:09] <vet​boss> Also can I disable this to stop lag? https://tinyurl.com/yz7ym54p
L535[16:16:19] <Mic​hiyo> No.
L536[16:16:22] <vet​boss> Ok.
L537[16:16:31] <vet​boss> What dose happen if I disable it?
L538[16:16:43] <Mic​hiyo> Nothing.
L539[16:16:45] <vet​boss> Ok.
L540[16:16:47] <Mic​hiyo> As in, nothing will happen.
L541[16:16:52] <Mic​hiyo> because everything will break
L542[16:17:19] <vet​boss> Oh
L543[16:17:28] <vet​boss> Good that I did not disable it lol
L544[16:17:34] <Mic​hiyo> Forge requires MCP
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L546[16:17:47] <vet​boss> Ok
L547[16:18:19] <vet​boss> How do I make the installing of the mods not lag the game or server i ma in?
L548[16:18:32] <Mic​hiyo> Get a better CPU, more RAM.
L549[16:18:48] <Mic​hiyo> Those are really your only options.
L550[16:18:52] <vet​boss> I have a good cpu
L551[16:18:57] <Mic​hiyo> Do you though?
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L553[16:19:12] <vet​boss> Is there not any mods for lag stopers?
L554[16:19:41] <vet​boss> Because I want something else than this! https://tinyurl.com/ygq9ljnx
L555[16:20:00] <Mic​hiyo> Sure, depending on what version of mInecraft you're running. But they can only do so much
L556[16:20:09] <vet​boss> I have not gotten over it
L557[16:20:10] <Mic​hiyo> and THAT very much sounds like a CPU bound issue.
L558[16:20:24] <vet​boss> I am on 1.12
L559[16:20:34] <vet​boss> Is this mod for any older versions?
L560[16:21:07] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/foamfix-optimization-mod Might work
L561[16:21:23] <vet​boss> What dose that mod do?
L562[16:21:24] <Mic​hiyo> OpenComputers is available down to 1.7.10
L563[16:21:29] <Mic​hiyo> Read the page.
L564[16:21:36] <Mic​hiyo> I'm not a screen reader AI
L565[16:21:44] <Ocawes​ome101> @vetboss what CPU do you have?
L566[16:21:44] <vet​boss> Ok
L567[16:22:09] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ygw85eng
L568[16:22:56] <Ocawes​ome101> how much RAM?
L569[16:23:31] <vet​boss> Where do I check the ram in task manager?
L570[16:23:50] <Ocawes​ome101> there's like an "overview" page or something
L571[16:24:02] <Ocawes​ome101> i don't exactly remember, though - it's been a few years since i've used windows
L572[16:24:10] <vet​boss> ok
L573[16:24:20] <Mic​hiyo> https://i.imgur.com/IzmY5zg.png
L574[16:24:25] <Ocawes​ome101> (at least, on my personal computer - and even that was only for about two weeks)
L575[16:24:26] <Mic​hiyo> The performance tab shows you
L576[16:24:28] <Ocawes​ome101> ah, Performance
L577[16:24:42] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yjk4a4n2
L578[16:24:47] <vet​boss> I do not have all that
L579[16:25:03] <Mic​hiyo> Double click that screen
L580[16:25:22] <vet​boss> nope
L581[16:25:28] <Ocawes​ome101> also please just take a screenshot of the whole window
L582[16:25:36] <Ocawes​ome101> not part of it
L583[16:25:39] <Mic​hiyo> Double click it PROPERLY :D it does work.
L584[16:25:41] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yfk24ukn
L585[16:25:53] <Ocawes​ome101> hmm yes high RAM usage
L586[16:26:02] <vet​boss> Where do you see that?
L587[16:26:08] <Mic​hiyo> Oh look, to the left, RAM 16Gb, and almost all of it used.
L588[16:26:15] <Ocawes​ome101> https://tinyurl.com/ygemhat6
L589[16:26:24] <Ocawes​ome101> what the fsck--oh, right, Windows
L590[16:26:26] <vet​boss> Oh god
L591[16:26:33] <vet​boss> And chrome
L592[16:26:33] <Ocawes​ome101> what are you running
L593[16:26:36] <Ocawes​ome101> oh
L594[16:26:43] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ygkxfpv7
L595[16:26:45] <vet​boss> lol
L596[16:26:59] <Ocawes​ome101> yikes
L597[16:27:03] <vet​boss> yea
L598[16:27:12] <vet​boss> Gonna close a few lol
L599[16:27:24] <Mic​hiyo> LOL is that all of the chrome tabs you have?
L600[16:27:26] <vet​boss> I need to watch some of those youtuve vids
L601[16:27:32] <vet​boss> Yes
L602[16:27:49] <Izaya> https://f001.backblazeb2.com/file/koyuspace-media/media_attachments/files/106/919/018/107/425/177/original/58677ed8e0c08760.png
L603[16:27:59] <vet​boss> XD
L604[16:28:38] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/yfylyl3k
L605[16:28:52] <Mic​hiyo> That's not including the OTHER chrome window I have of tabs I WONT be showing.
L606[16:28:53] <Mic​hiyo> :P
L607[16:28:53] <vet​boss> Now I have just 9 open
L608[16:29:02] <vet​boss> wow
L609[16:29:12] <vet​boss> how good is your cpu and ram?
L610[16:29:13] <Izaya> tfw I have a portrait monitor and tree style tabs and it goes right to the bottom
L611[16:29:21] <vet​boss> And GPU!
L612[16:29:38] <Ocawes​ome101> gpu doesn't impact browser performance much
L613[16:29:55] <vet​boss> ok
L614[16:29:56] <Mic​hiyo> Threadripper 1900x 9c 16t 3.8GHz 64GB of RAM, and a RTX 2060, but that doesn't mean much for this
L615[16:29:57] <Ocawes​ome101> but i have an i5 and 32GB of RAM in my desktop and i've probably had 100 firefox tabs open at times
L616[16:30:03] <Izaya> my computer is the peak of 2014 technology
L617[16:30:08] <Mic​hiyo> Threadripper 1900x 8c 16t 3.8GHz 64GB of RAM, and a RTX 2060, but that doesn't mean much for this [Edited]
L618[16:30:17] <Izaya> i7 4790, 16GB of 1866Mhz DDR3, 16GB of RAM
L619[16:30:23] <Izaya> wait I said that
L620[16:30:25] <Izaya> uhhhh RX 580
L621[16:30:30] <vet​boss> wow
L622[16:30:44] <vet​boss> now it goes a bit faster
L623[16:30:47] <Mic​hiyo> This thing is coming up on 5 years old soon I think
L624[16:31:10] <Izaya> kinda wild to think I'm going to be using a 10 year old platform soon enough and it's still fine
L625[16:31:14] <Izaya> moore's law really is dead
L626[16:31:29] <vet​boss> bruh when can I get past this screen! https://tinyurl.com/yhmen8wu
L627[16:31:53] <Ocawes​ome101> my laptop that i currently have has an i7-6600U + 16GB of 2133(?)MHz DDR4 + iGPU, but i'm getting one today or tomorrow with a Ryzen 5 5500U and 32GB of RAM
L628[16:31:55] <Mic​hiyo> You'll need to bump the timeout up in your OC config. As has been said before.
L629[16:32:04] <Izaya> yield more
L630[16:32:18] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: they're having this issue trying to boot/install OpenOS
L631[16:32:20] <vet​boss> >Mic​hiyo: You'll need to bump the timeout up in yo…
L632[16:32:20] <vet​boss> And what do I need to search for then in config?
L633[16:32:22] <Mic​hiyo> Your CPU is running too far behind. If you're running custom code then yes, yield more.
L634[16:32:41] <Ocawes​ome101> `timeout=...` on line 296 of `config/opencomputers/settings.conf` @vetboss
L635[16:32:46] <Ocawes​ome101> and quit minecraft before you change it
L636[16:32:49] <vet​boss> Where do I set how much yield I can you?
L637[16:32:51] <Ocawes​ome101> set it to like 7
L638[16:32:58] <vet​boss> Ok
L639[16:33:10] <Izaya> what CPU do you have? is it like a pentium 4 or something
L640[16:33:20] <Mic​hiyo> i5 9400f
L641[16:33:20] <Ocawes​ome101> it's an i5-9400F
L642[16:33:24] <Izaya> mfw
L643[16:33:26] <Ocawes​ome101> should be more than capable
L644[16:33:34] <Mic​hiyo> ehh :P
L645[16:33:36] <Izaya> pretty sure that should be faster than my 4790
L646[16:33:58] <vet​boss> There set to 7
L647[16:34:07] <Ocawes​ome101> and then windows comes along and just goes "hippity hoppity your CPU is my property"
L648[16:34:19] <vet​boss> Yea
L649[16:34:20] <Ocawes​ome101> ok, now start minecraft again it might be better
L650[16:34:28] <vet​boss> Ok let me do se
L651[16:34:30] <vet​boss> So
L652[16:34:32] <Izaya> windows update got real aggressive ig
L653[16:34:49] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/1a743135751aefd3e6b3267081925c1233bd4f7bb214f89d03e7286cccc78ff1.jpg
L654[16:35:50] <vet​boss> Windows 11 update free soon
L655[16:36:15] <! Sk​yzey> damn you guys got nice pc's
L656[16:36:30] <Izaya> thankfully I don't have a single windows machine in the house these days but even if I did, I'd be glad because I don't even have a TPM 1.1 module
L657[16:36:35] <vet​boss> Well people that owns win10 gets win11 free
L658[16:36:43] <vet​boss> in a short wile
L659[16:36:56] <Izaya> * assuming they have a computer built since 2019 or so
L660[16:37:14] <vet​boss> lol
L661[16:37:28] <Izaya> and what a waste of good hardware that is
L662[16:37:43] <Izaya> thanks microsoft, creating tonnes of e-waste in the middle of a global pandemic and computer hardware shortage
L663[16:37:49] <Izaya> very cool
L664[16:37:55] <Izaya> oh well, someone has to fund the used market, right?
L665[16:38:49] <vet​boss> maybe
L666[16:38:53] <Izaya> a shame it doesn't increase the minimum display requirements
L667[16:38:58] <Izaya> I'm in the market for a new display
L668[16:39:19] <vet​boss> bruh what? https://tinyurl.com/ygoprjel
L669[16:39:20] <vet​boss> Again
L670[16:39:29] <vet​boss> This is dumb
L671[16:40:12] <Izaya> hey did first-gen ryzen hardware come with TPM2.0 modules?
L672[16:40:35] <Mic​hiyo> Izaya.. eehhhhhh
L673[16:40:51] <Izaya> I'm hoping for a "no" because then I might have an upgrade path
L674[16:41:24] <Izaya> can buy prematurely replaced first-gen ryzen stuff, upgrade to newer processors when they get cheap
L675[16:41:28] <Mic​hiyo> Not... really... my board has firmware TPM that will KINDA run 11, but it lags like shit because it has to run some of the encryption in software instead of hardware
L676[16:41:40] <Izaya> excellent
L677[16:41:41] <vet​boss> Is this the right tools to make it happen? https://tinyurl.com/yfht5l6l
L678[16:42:37] <vet​boss> Do I need the timeout to be even longer?
L679[16:42:59] <Izaya> I imagine you've already checked the game logs?
L680[16:43:14] <vet​boss> I did not
L681[16:43:42] <Izaya> might be another issue we didn't expect because surely you have the CPU time to make that happen within 7 seconds
L682[16:43:55] <vet​boss> Yea
L683[16:44:04] <vet​boss> And the game lags a bit tho
L684[16:44:27] <vet​boss> Like when it downloads and starts up the game freezes but after that it dose not
L685[16:44:57] <Ocawes​ome101> i would suggest trying ULOS but that would probably be even worse
L686[16:45:20] <vet​boss> What is that?
L687[16:45:36] <Izaya> .minecraft/logs/latest.log may be illuminating
L688[16:45:41] <Izaya> also may not
L689[16:45:43] <Izaya> worth a look?
L690[16:45:48] <vet​boss> ok
L691[16:46:15] <Ocawes​ome101> what is what, ulos?
L692[16:46:27] <vet​boss> Yes
L693[16:46:29] <Ocawes​ome101> https://ocawesome101.github.io/ulos my opencomputers operating system
L694[16:46:40] <vet​boss> Is it better than openos?
L695[16:47:58] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm not the best person to ask, since i wrote it, but it depends
L696[16:48:05] <vet​boss> Dose this mod make the mods less lagging the server and minecraft? https://tinyurl.com/yfwt8jlm
L697[16:48:11] <vet​boss> Ok
L698[16:48:14] <Ocawes​ome101> if you want an even more *nix-like experience it'll be better than OpenOS
L699[16:48:25] <Ocawes​ome101> and it supports pre-emptive multitasking!
L700[16:48:26] <vet​boss> ok
L701[16:48:32] <Izaya> foamfix mostly reduces memory usage
L702[16:48:38] <Izaya> good to have though
L703[16:48:57] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: by pre-emptive multitasking do you mean forcing to yield on component calls?
L704[16:50:33] <Izaya> (and if so, how well does that work? did it significantly complicate the scheduler or is that just an effect of me always having a really dumb scheduler when I try it?)
L705[16:50:40] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yewcj9j9
L706[16:51:14] <vet​boss> ok
L707[16:51:25] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yjqr59ws
L708[16:51:36] <vet​boss> This is what the foamfix dose it says
L709[16:52:04] <Forec​aster> %sip
L710[16:52:04] <Izaya> hey Amanda are you still using weechat with that bridge bot script? does this "! Skyzey" individual show up as no name at all for you too?
L711[16:52:06] <MichiBot> You drink a simulated octiron potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a tuna dryad boy until someone stabs them.
L712[16:52:36] <Izaya> yup, foamfix reduces memory consumption
L713[16:53:04] <vet​boss> Maybe it will be cool to add that and the lag stops when I turn on the computre
L714[16:53:10] <Mic​hiyo> Which, if you're swapping (At the time you VERY MUCH WERE) is important.
L715[16:53:27] <Mic​hiyo> (And you may very much still be...)
L716[16:53:39] <vet​boss> Are you talking to me?
L717[16:54:10] <Mic​hiyo> Nope, the other person here who is having issues with their computer crapping itself running minecraft.
L718[16:54:19] <vet​boss> ok
L719[16:54:20] <Mic​hiyo> eyeroll
L720[16:54:22] <Mic​hiyo> anyway
L721[16:55:17] <Forec​aster> just remember to roll one eye the other way to counter the spin
L722[16:55:24] <Forec​aster> very important in zero gravity
L723[16:55:30] <vet​boss> lol
L724[16:59:02] <vet​boss> Can I make the timeout to like infinite?
L725[17:01:12] <vet​boss> Did not work
L726[17:02:49] <Mic​hiyo> You've mentioned a server a few times..... is this single player, or a server?
L727[17:03:20] <Mic​hiyo> and if it's a server, are you changing the config for the server and restarting it?
L728[17:03:29] <vet​boss> Single
L729[17:04:02] <vet​boss> idk how to make this mod go into a server but if I can I would be happy to learn it
L730[17:04:30] <Forec​aster> maybe look up how to set up a modded server on the internet
L731[17:04:56] <vet​boss> Ok
L732[17:11:08] <s_​a_m> >Iz​aya: windows update got real aggressive ig
L733[17:11:09] <s_​a_m> "windows 10 will be the last version of windows"
L734[17:11:58] <s_​a_m> my ASS
L735[17:12:01] <s_​a_m> anyways
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L738[17:19:52] <s_​a_m> @Ocawesome101 prepare for the fuck fuck fest known as tsukinet
L739[17:20:47] <s_​a_m> i am armed with an address https://tinyurl.com/yegs8hkb
L740[17:20:53] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: no, i mean it inserts `internalyield()` (where `internalyield()` is a function injected into the environment by `load()`, which only actually yields every 0.1s) statements into the code in every loop. it compensates for signals picked up during those forced yields too so no signals are dropped (though, if you're processing signals you're probably yielding enough anyway)
L741[17:21:11] <Ocawes​ome101> it's fairly smart and doesn't process code inside multiline blocks
L742[17:21:33] <Ocawes​ome101> https://github.com/ocawesome101/oc-cynosure/blob/dev/base/load.lua
L743[17:22:10] <s_​a_m> that address is more progress than i've made before lmao
L744[17:22:22] <s_​a_m> i plan on making three tsukinet stacks
L745[17:22:48] <s_​a_m> one for the EEPROM, one for Zorya, and one for OpenOS
L746[17:23:35] <Ocawes​ome101> presumably one for tsuki as well?
L747[17:23:48] <s_​a_m> and i'll hopefully have minitel compat for hostname to tsukinet address resolution
L748[17:24:04] <s_​a_m> >Ocawes​ome101: presumably one for tsuki as well?
L749[17:24:04] <s_​a_m> that requires tsuki to have code
L750[17:24:18] <Ocawes​ome101> yes of course
L751[17:24:30] <Ocawes​ome101> once you get tsuki to a workable state in about 30 years
L752[17:25:05] <s_​a_m> tsukifs is nearly(tm) done, foxfs is put on hold until i have OSSM 2.0 done and i can have 8 MiB async i/o drives
L753[17:26:04] <Ocawes​ome101> i need to get my act together and write a CFS implementation
L754[17:26:04] <s_​a_m> tsukifs is jank, the good kind of jank
L755[17:26:07] <Ocawes​ome101> or OpenFS
L756[17:26:11] <Ocawes​ome101> or OCFS
L757[17:26:28] <Ocawes​ome101> or really some form of unmanaged filesystem so i can properly test cynosure's file permissions system
L758[17:26:35] <s_​a_m> tsukifs is built upon the managed filesystem so i can track node allocations
L759[17:26:48] <Ocawes​ome101> (and really the whole unmanaged-drive subsystem)
L760[17:26:53] <s_​a_m> easily track, that is
L761[17:27:25] <s_​a_m> every node in the filesystem is a file with a number encoded to base36 as the name
L762[17:27:38] <s_​a_m> and the files start with the actual metadata
L763[17:27:45] <s_​a_m> it's wonderfully jank
L764[17:28:19] <Ocawes​ome101> sounds like it for sure
L765[17:29:21] <s_​a_m> but since i'm doing this, i don't have the overhead of tracking node/sector allocation, and it's easier to delete files, just unlink and if nlinks reaches 0, remove from the filesystem
L766[17:29:32] <s_​a_m> :D
L767[17:29:48] <vet​boss> Got one to work so far! https://tinyurl.com/yjfmfu49
L768[17:29:53] <vet​boss> Yay
L769[17:31:04] <s_​a_m> also plan on having a special node type to "link" a normal file (say, init.lua or boot.velx) to a file in the fs the tsukifs driver sees
L770[17:31:06] <Ocawes​ome101> ew mineos
L771[17:31:13] <s_​a_m> bloatos lmao
L772[17:31:15] <vet​boss> what?
L773[17:31:20] <vet​boss> It at least worked
L774[17:31:30] <Ocawes​ome101> it's also just about the slowest, heaviest thing ever written for OC
L775[17:31:31] <s_​a_m> i say knowing damn well tsuki will need lots of dedodated wam
L776[17:31:40] <vet​boss> ok
L777[17:31:53] <Ocawes​ome101> ULOS needs 384K as it stands, and is much more comfortable in 512K
L778[17:31:57] <s_​a_m> purely because i plan on going nuts with features
L779[17:32:09] <vet​boss> ok
L780[17:32:11] <Ocawes​ome101> mostly because cynosure won't even load on 256k lmao
L781[17:32:25] <s_​a_m> my absolute maximum limit is 768k
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L783[17:32:28] <vet​boss> I will try to install it later
L784[17:32:48] <s_​a_m> if tsuki+coreutils takes more than that, i will cry
L785[17:32:50] <vet​boss> I added you Ocaw
L786[17:32:57] <Ocawes​ome101> @sam is that just a personal limit?
L787[17:33:08] <s_​a_m> >Ocawes​ome101: <@!175686996461617162> is that just a …
L788[17:33:09] <s_​a_m> yes
L789[17:33:18] <Ocawes​ome101> it's a perfectly reasonable one
L790[17:33:43] <s_​a_m> if tsuki needs more thsn 768k of ram, i did something wrong
L791[17:34:03] <Ocawes​ome101> cynosure might need more than 384k when running an unmanaged-mode filesystem :P
L792[17:34:15] <Ocawes​ome101> or with all the extra features built in
L793[17:34:29] <vet​boss> Wait that much ram?
L794[17:34:38] <vet​boss> I won't have enough then
L795[17:34:56] <Ocawes​ome101> if you can run MineOS you can run ULOS lmao
L796[17:35:00] <s_​a_m> i plan on using tsuki on a server anyways, and you can have dumb terminals spread about
L797[17:35:08] <vet​boss> ok
L798[17:35:19] <vet​boss> But mineos runs so slow
L799[17:35:24] <s_​a_m> yes
L800[17:35:24] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L801[17:35:30] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ydwqx452
L802[17:35:32] <Ocawes​ome101> because MineOS is a slow, bloated tech demo
L803[17:35:34] <vet​boss> Wow can't even load
L804[17:35:38] <s_​a_m> what did you expect when we said it would be slow
L805[17:35:48] <s_​a_m> >RAM: 100%
L806[17:35:49] <vet​boss> not this slow lol
L807[17:35:55] <s_​a_m> there's your problem
L808[17:36:03] <Ocawes​ome101> anyways https://ocawesome101.github.io/ulos
L809[17:36:32] <vet​boss> ok
L810[17:36:37] <s_​a_m> i can't wait to have tsuki actually do something lmao
L811[17:36:55] <s_​a_m> it'll be sick
L812[17:37:00] <Ocawes​ome101> me during the first couple months of Cynosure work
L813[17:37:19] <s_​a_m> "come on, just do something"
L814[17:37:30] <s_​a_m> tbh, whenever i get the drive, i can work pretty fast
L815[17:37:46] <s_​a_m> if you couldn't tell by how quick luacomp 2.0 happened when i said
L816[17:37:58] <s_​a_m> "man, i need to rewrite this, it's too damn slow"
L817[17:38:13] <s_​a_m> so i made it fast as fuck
L818[17:38:29] <Ocawes​ome101> aha, cynosure took about a month to get to the state where it could load init from disk
L819[17:38:44] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L820[17:38:45] <Ocawes​ome101> wait
L821[17:39:14] <s_​a_m> my first two things in tsuki will be loading executables and kernel panicking
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L823[17:39:22] <s_​a_m> (and everything required for those)
L824[17:39:57] <Ocawes​ome101> ended up actually taking closer to 2.5 months for cynosure to be at all usable
L825[17:40:14] <s_​a_m> "sam, why are you using velx exclusively in tsuki" because i can >:(
L826[17:40:59] <s_​a_m> but you can still +x lua scripts with a `#!/bin/lua` at the top, i swear
L827[17:41:07] <s_​a_m> i will make that a feature
L828[17:42:02] <Ocawes​ome101> ....may have been closer to 4 months.... looking through my git changelog i keep finding more lol
L829[17:42:15] <vet​boss> I have no cpus with lua 5.3
L830[17:42:29] <vet​boss> How can I get it then?
L831[17:43:17] <vet​boss> Only 5.2 https://tinyurl.com/yhwuaf82
L832[17:43:32] <Ocawes​ome101> shift right-click with the CPU in your hand
L833[17:43:41] <vet​boss> Ok
L834[17:43:53] <vet​boss> Oh
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L837[17:49:10] <vet​boss> Witch one? https://tinyurl.com/yh8xzwu9
L838[17:49:23] <vet​boss> 1 or 2?
L839[17:49:31] <Ocawes​ome101> which drives are in your computer?
L840[17:49:38] <Ocawes​ome101> also i think that installer may not work, you have been warned
L841[17:49:49] <Ocawes​ome101> (run `mount` in the shell)
L842[17:49:58] <vet​boss> Where?
L843[17:50:05] <vet​boss> And witch one?
L844[17:50:28] <Ocawes​ome101> whichever one doesn't have OpenOS installed on it
L845[17:50:28] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yjax6k5m
L846[17:50:36] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ydj5esx3
L847[17:50:47] <Ocawes​ome101> which i think would be `d7d...`, so `2`
L848[17:50:49] <vet​boss> 2 is the hard drive
L849[17:51:06] <vet​boss> So the OpenOS?
L850[17:51:16] <Ocawes​ome101> huh? no
L851[17:51:24] <Ocawes​ome101> the one that doesn't have OpenOS is the one you want
L852[17:51:30] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yfnujda4
L853[17:51:34] <Ocawes​ome101> 2
L854[17:51:42] <vet​boss> So the hard drive tire 3?
L855[17:51:43] <vet​boss> ok
L856[17:51:44] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L857[17:52:05] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yz7yd6t8
L858[17:52:07] <vet​boss> um
L859[17:52:28] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah, i wondered if that'd happen (it does for me) - i'm not sure why
L860[17:52:33] <Ocawes​ome101> go ahead and install OpenOS
L861[17:52:41] <Ocawes​ome101> then put another blank drive in the system
L862[17:52:46] <vet​boss> Ok
L863[17:53:02] <vet​boss> now it dose no lag
L864[17:53:05] <vet​boss> wow
L865[17:53:59] <vet​boss> I did it but now it's back to this! https://tinyurl.com/yjvghqdo
L866[17:54:10] <Ocawes​ome101> run `mount`
L867[17:54:21] <vet​boss> Ok
L868[17:54:36] <vet​boss> Do I also include the run?
L869[17:55:01] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L870[17:55:08] <vet​boss> Should I type run mount or just mount?
L871[17:55:11] <Ocawes​ome101> only the text that looks `like this`
L872[17:55:16] <vet​boss> Ok
L873[17:55:28] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yhxqgpzc
L874[17:56:03] <vet​boss> Hold on let me take out the cat
L875[17:57:18] <Ocawes​ome101> remove the floppy disk, and put in a new blank hard drive (but leave the hard drive that's in there in!)
L876[17:57:44] <vet​boss> So take out to green one?
L877[17:57:47] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L878[17:57:53] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yhfum79e
L879[17:58:02] <Ocawes​ome101> yes, take out that one
L880[17:58:03] <vet​boss> ok
L881[17:58:07] <Ocawes​ome101> then put in a Tier 2 hard drive
L882[17:58:12] <Ocawes​ome101> then run `pastebin run L7iWx5j7`
L883[17:58:12] <vet​boss> Ok
L884[17:58:32] <vet​boss> Ok
L885[17:59:00] <vet​boss> Like this? https://tinyurl.com/yjprzwg9
L886[17:59:08] <Ocawes​ome101> yep
L887[17:59:11] <vet​boss> Ok
L888[18:00:33] <vet​boss> Ok it looks different now all the loadings lol
L889[18:00:40] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ygov3f7z
L890[18:00:46] <vet​boss> Password?
L891[18:01:01] <Ocawes​ome101> `root`
L892[18:01:05] <vet​boss> Ok
L893[18:01:38] <vet​boss> Wait should I noot put root as the localhost login?
L894[18:01:43] <Ocawes​ome101> you should
L895[18:01:44] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yec55yev
L896[18:01:50] <vet​boss> Like that?
L897[18:01:53] <Ocawes​ome101> the credentials are `root` and `root`
L898[18:02:01] <Ocawes​ome101> while typing the password nothing will show up
L899[18:02:05] <vet​boss> Ok
L900[18:02:15] <vet​boss> So should I type root the 2 time?
L901[18:02:28] <Forec​aster> ...
L902[18:02:36] <vet​boss> So it will be easy to login for others?
L903[18:02:41] <Ocawes​ome101> what
L904[18:02:52] <Ocawes​ome101> you have to log in every time you log out or reboot
L905[18:03:07] <Ocawes​ome101> that's a critical part of security
L906[18:03:12] <vet​boss> Ok but when the password and username is as easy as root
L907[18:03:30] <Ocawes​ome101> well yes you'll set the root password during installation
L908[18:03:37] <vet​boss> Ok
L909[18:03:41] <Ocawes​ome101> you should see something like `root@localhost: /# `
L910[18:03:44] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yh4xp5kb
L911[18:03:48] <Ocawes​ome101> ah good
L912[18:03:50] <Forec​aster> if they were so easy why'd you have to ask about it
L913[18:03:52] <Ocawes​ome101> run `installer`
L914[18:03:58] <vet​boss> Wait is this the whole system of yours?
L915[18:04:11] <Ocawes​ome101> is... what
L916[18:04:22] <Ocawes​ome101> i wrote every single line of code in this OS, yes
L917[18:04:26] <vet​boss> oh nvm
L918[18:04:26] <Forec​aster> "did you make this" is what I guess that meant
L919[18:04:33] <vet​boss> ooh your good
L920[18:04:41] <Forec​aster> my good
L921[18:04:43] <Ocawes​ome101> i've been using Lua for 2-3 years
L922[18:04:46] <Ocawes​ome101> you're*
L923[18:04:49] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yhmyr2lo
L924[18:04:51] <vet​boss> Witch?
L925[18:05:01] <Ocawes​ome101> `0b07...`
L926[18:05:07] <Forec​aster> also, having to log in after logging out is the worst feature, it should be banned
L927[18:05:08] <vet​boss> Ok
L928[18:05:08] <Mic​hiyo> Yes, I am, but that's besides the point.
L929[18:05:22] <Mic​hiyo> (also it's which :P)
L930[18:05:30] <Forec​aster> whomst?
L931[18:05:30] <vet​boss> Offline or online?
L932[18:05:33] <Ocawes​ome101> online
L933[18:05:52] <vet​boss> Your good
L934[18:05:57] <Ocawes​ome101> you're*
L935[18:06:03] <vet​boss> Sorry lol
L936[18:06:11] <Ocawes​ome101> don't worry, it's a common mistake
L937[18:06:28] <Ocawes​ome101> anyways i've been working on ULOS since january, i should hope it'd be decent by now
L938[18:06:38] <vet​boss> Ok. How did you do it? I want to do this to one day
L939[18:06:52] <ThePi​Guy24> >Ocawes​ome101: you're*
L940[18:06:52] <ThePi​Guy24> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8KqaxE7kD0
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L942[18:07:06] <Ocawes​ome101> @vetboss practice
L943[18:07:08] <vet​boss> Should I put something else now? https://tinyurl.com/yzbh6w9l
L944[18:07:12] <Forec​aster> a good start is probably to learn lua
L945[18:07:15] <vet​boss> Like my own?
L946[18:07:15] <Ocawes​ome101> put something memorable
L947[18:07:23] <vet​boss> Like not root?
L948[18:07:40] <Ocawes​ome101> it can be `root`, it can be `sdjfhdkgjhsfkjh`, it can be anything as long as it's longer than 4 characters
L949[18:07:44] <Forec​aster> hey, `notroot` is the password for my luggage!
L950[18:08:13] <vet​boss> Ok so I will put my own password for my real accounts?
L951[18:08:17] <vet​boss> Or no?
L952[18:08:21] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L953[18:08:39] <vet​boss> Should I put a real password that I use for everything?
L954[18:09:13] <Ocawes​ome101> you should put whatever password you want to
L955[18:09:16] <Ocawes​ome101> just don't tell me what it is
L956[18:09:45] <vet​boss> Ok lol
L957[18:09:54] <vet​boss> Can others login to my account as well?
L958[18:10:05] <Ocawes​ome101> only if they know your password
L959[18:10:19] <vet​boss> Ok cool
L960[18:10:36] <Ocawes​ome101> and passwords are not stored in plaintext, but hashed, so there's no way for them to find it unless you tell them
L961[18:11:04] <vet​boss> ok
L962[18:11:19] <vet​boss> How do I change the username of my main?
L963[18:11:30] <Ocawes​ome101> you can't change a username once the account is created
L964[18:11:32] <Ocawes​ome101> however
L965[18:11:45] <Ocawes​ome101> did you exit the user creation utility already?
L966[18:11:52] <vet​boss> Cause I want it to be named Vetboss and not root
L967[18:12:05] <Ocawes​ome101> there is always a root account
L968[18:12:08] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yh8oan8o
L969[18:12:32] <Ocawes​ome101> enter `1,2,5,9`
L970[18:12:40] <vet​boss> oki
L971[18:13:19] <vet​boss> What do I do? https://tinyurl.com/ygs8j2pg
L972[18:13:25] <Ocawes​ome101> just press enter
L973[18:13:36] <vet​boss> Ok
L974[18:15:20] <vet​boss> What now? https://tinyurl.com/ygeepo9c
L975[18:15:45] <Forec​aster> it literally says right there...
L976[18:15:45] <Ocawes​ome101> remove the tier 3 hard disk and reboot the computer
L977[18:15:50] <Forec​aster> jeez
L978[18:15:53] <vet​boss> Ok
L979[18:15:57] <Ocawes​ome101> it does indeed say what to do
L980[18:16:11] <vet​boss> Ok
L981[18:16:25] <vet​boss> I gtg eat so brb
L982[18:16:54] <Ocawes​ome101> bye
L983[18:17:02] <Forec​aster> gotta love the "explain everything so I don't have to do any thinking myself" kind of support
L984[18:17:20] <Ocawes​ome101> this is why i need a video
L985[18:17:23] <Forec​aster> thinking/reading
L986[18:17:37] <Ocawes​ome101> in fact i'm planning a video series on how to use ULOS
L987[18:17:41] <vet​boss> Um invalid password! I think I missclicked
L988[18:17:50] <Ocawes​ome101> screenshot?
L989[18:17:53] <vet​boss> How do I reset it?
L990[18:17:58] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yepv4y7w
L991[18:18:08] <Ocawes​ome101> log in as `root`
L992[18:18:11] <vet​boss> Ok
L993[18:18:18] <Ocawes​ome101> then run `passwd Vetboss`
L994[18:18:23] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yea4xapj
L995[18:18:35] <Ocawes​ome101> hmm
L996[18:18:36] <vet​boss> wrong password
L997[18:18:44] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: re: preemptive multitasking, cursed but neat
L998[18:18:50] <Ocawes​ome101> are you sure you're typing the password correctly? (they're case-sensitive!)
L999[18:18:51] <vet​boss> I had that password for root root
L1000[18:18:56] <vet​boss> I did
L1001[18:19:07] <Ocawes​ome101> the root password is the first password you entered earlier
L1002[18:19:15] <Ocawes​ome101> not `root` (unless you entered `root`)
L1003[18:19:25] <vet​boss> I did
L1004[18:19:44] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: ikr? i want to make the scheduler loop smarter so i can have even faster preemption but for now it suffices
L1005[18:19:45] <Ocawes​ome101> odd
L1006[18:20:02] <Ocawes​ome101> one moment
L1007[18:20:06] <vet​boss> Well now I really gtg eat so I'll get back to it later
L1008[18:20:09] <vet​boss> ok
L1009[18:20:15] <vet​boss> cya in some minutes
L1010[18:20:22] <Ocawes​ome101> alright
L1011[18:20:22] <Izaya> I want to try a different design some time
L1012[18:20:45] <Izaya> it's not quite preemptive but have all the event processing happen in the same function as is used to call external code
L1013[18:21:05] <Izaya> so the event queue is kept in the process's scope
L1014[18:22:32] <Ocawes​ome101> huh
L1015[18:23:10] <Ocawes​ome101> also i have a really cursed method for sending signals from the TTY to whichever process is in the "foreground"
L1016[18:24:42] <Ocawes​ome101> https://github.com/ocawesome101/oc-cynosure/blob/dev/base/tty.lua#L676-L699
L1017[18:25:07] <Amanda> Izaya: I've stopped using weechat, using a matrix bridge instead
L1018[18:30:26] <vet​boss> Alright i am back
L1019[18:30:34] <vet​boss> What is the solution?
L1020[18:31:13] <Ocawes​ome101> remove `/etc/passwd` using the OpenOS disk
L1021[18:31:22] <Ocawes​ome101> is the best i've got
L1022[18:31:31] <vet​boss> So turn off pc?
L1023[18:31:38] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L1024[18:31:42] <vet​boss> Ok
L1025[18:31:52] <vet​boss> Then add the 3
L1026[18:32:00] <vet​boss> tire 3 disk
L1027[18:32:10] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L1028[18:32:20] <Ocawes​ome101> remove the ULOS one while it's starting or it'll just boot into ULOS again
L1029[18:32:22] <Ocawes​ome101> wait
L1030[18:32:22] <Ocawes​ome101> wait
L1031[18:32:23] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L1032[18:32:27] <Ocawes​ome101> don't add the tier 3 disk
L1033[18:32:29] <vet​boss> So the tire 3 disk is the troubleshooter or the fixer
L1034[18:32:30] <Ocawes​ome101> add the floppy disk
L1035[18:32:35] <vet​boss> Ok
L1036[18:32:46] <vet​boss> like this? https://tinyurl.com/yfgkuuhz
L1037[18:32:55] <Ocawes​ome101> remove the tier 3 one
L1038[18:32:58] <vet​boss> Don't remove anything else?
L1039[18:33:03] <Ocawes​ome101> correct
L1040[18:33:03] <vet​boss> ok
L1041[18:33:10] <Ocawes​ome101> actually no remove both hard drives
L1042[18:33:14] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yjwepk4w
L1043[18:33:20] <vet​boss> Ok
L1044[18:33:26] <vet​boss> So the changes won't be done?
L1045[18:33:34] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yg588do8
L1046[18:33:52] <Ocawes​ome101> that is how it should be
L1047[18:33:55] <Ocawes​ome101> now turn on the computer
L1048[18:33:58] <vet​boss> ok
L1049[18:34:14] <Ocawes​ome101> then put in the yellow disk
L1050[18:34:15] <vet​boss> now?
L1051[18:34:18] <vet​boss> ok
L1052[18:34:32] <vet​boss> now what?
L1053[18:34:43] <Ocawes​ome101> then run `rm /mnt/0b0/etc/passwd`
L1054[18:34:56] <Ocawes​ome101> then shut down, then remove the OpenOS disk
L1055[18:35:02] <vet​boss> Ok hold on
L1056[18:35:53] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yjlc5ecv
L1057[18:35:55] <vet​boss> like that?
L1058[18:36:05] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L1059[18:36:09] <vet​boss> Ok
L1060[18:36:24] <vet​boss> now looks like this https://tinyurl.com/yenedvtm
L1061[18:36:59] <Ocawes​ome101> yep
L1062[18:37:01] <Ocawes​ome101> now shut down
L1063[18:37:04] <vet​boss> ok
L1064[18:37:07] <Ocawes​ome101> then remove the floppy disk
L1065[18:37:10] <Ocawes​ome101> then turn the computer back on
L1066[18:37:13] <vet​boss> ok
L1067[18:37:20] <vet​boss> ok
L1068[18:37:27] <vet​boss> Ok.
L1069[18:37:29] <vet​boss> Now what?
L1070[18:37:40] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ydzwlr4v
L1071[18:38:06] <Ocawes​ome101> now log in with `root`/`root` again
L1072[18:38:11] <vet​boss> ok
L1073[18:38:21] <vet​boss> ok
L1074[18:38:29] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yeh6odx8
L1075[18:38:49] <vet​boss> Can I now change the password to something else?
L1076[18:39:36] <vet​boss> So to not add back the tire 3 disk?
L1077[18:41:04] <Ocawes​ome101> run `passwd vetboss --enable=SUDO,MOUNT,HWINFO,HOSTNAME`
L1078[18:41:11] <vet​boss> Ok
L1079[18:41:12] <vet​boss> hold on
L1080[18:41:57] <vet​boss> Sodo and everything else in caps?
L1081[18:42:52] <vet​boss> like this? https://tinyurl.com/yz4337wf
L1082[18:43:26] <Ocawes​ome101> you typo'd `HOSTNAME`
L1083[18:43:30] <Ocawes​ome101> otherwise yes
L1084[18:43:51] <vet​boss> ok
L1085[18:43:55] <vet​boss> So press enter?
L1086[18:43:57] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L1087[18:43:59] <vet​boss> ok
L1088[18:44:11] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yfjpnnho
L1089[18:44:32] <Ocawes​ome101> enter a password
L1090[18:44:38] <Ocawes​ome101> make sure you type it correctly
L1091[18:44:43] <vet​boss> Ok
L1092[18:44:54] <vet​boss> Ok cool
L1093[18:45:00] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yjth286y
L1094[18:45:32] <vet​boss> I will save this in a place later so I know how to do stuff if I do something wrong
L1095[18:45:36] <vet​boss> all of this proccess
L1096[18:45:40] <Ocawes​ome101> good idea
L1097[18:45:50] <Ocawes​ome101> as i mentioned earlier i have plans for a series of videos on how to use ULOS
L1098[18:45:52] <vet​boss> So I know what to remove and not
L1099[18:46:03] <vet​boss> Ok cool
L1100[18:46:12] <vet​boss> So we are like alpha users?
L1101[18:46:14] <vet​boss> Testing?
L1102[18:46:51] <Ocawes​ome101> people other than me using the installer definitely help me iron out the kinks :P
L1103[18:47:00] <vet​boss> Ok.
L1104[18:47:02] <vet​boss> Cool
L1105[18:47:17] <Ocawes​ome101> though ULOS is at release 1.6 and as such, i hope, fairly stable
L1106[18:47:40] <vet​boss> Ok
L1107[18:50:08] <vet​boss> Should I add back the tire 3 one too?
L1108[18:50:43] <vet​boss> Rn only this one is insite https://tinyurl.com/ydmnvbmo
L1109[18:50:54] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L1110[18:50:57] <vet​boss> Ok
L1111[18:51:03] <vet​boss> So only the yellow one?
L1112[18:51:27] <Ocawes​ome101> correct
L1113[18:51:29] <vet​boss> So do not keep the tire 3 one for later?
L1114[18:51:39] <Ocawes​ome101> you can keep the tier 3 one but there's not much point
L1115[18:52:00] <vet​boss> What do I need the tire 3 one for in the future maybe?
L1116[18:52:06] <vet​boss> Reinstalling it?
L1117[18:52:43] <Ocawes​ome101> or fixing it if for example UPM is broken
L1118[18:52:50] <vet​boss> Ok
L1119[18:52:59] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yew599dw
L1120[18:53:11] <vet​boss> Should I rename the floppy disk to bug fixing?
L1121[18:53:17] <Ocawes​ome101> nah it's just OpenOS
L1122[18:53:45] <vet​boss> Ok, I will try to remember that it is used for password recovery
L1123[18:53:59] <Ocawes​ome101> lol it's not password recovery it's password deletion :P
L1124[18:54:05] <Ocawes​ome101> to upgrade the system you should occasionally run `upm update && upm upgrade` (don't do it right now, but in the future it may be useful)
L1125[18:54:08] <vet​boss> Ok.
L1126[18:54:22] <vet​boss> Ok
L1127[18:54:30] <Ocawes​ome101> and if you're interested, i have a discord server for it https://discord.gg/rZMYeHp5
L1128[18:54:34] <vet​boss> Saving that line for later
L1129[18:54:42] <vet​boss> Ok cool
L1130[18:54:50] <Ocawes​ome101> i announce updates and whatnot there
L1131[18:54:55] <vet​boss> Ok
L1132[18:54:59] <vet​boss> So what not to do?
L1133[18:55:20] <Ocawes​ome101> wdym
L1134[18:55:39] <vet​boss> like what to do and what not to do so you don't do a fail
L1135[18:55:40] <Ocawes​ome101> no, by "whatnot" i just mean "things" lmao
L1136[18:55:46] <vet​boss> lol
L1137[18:56:07] <vet​boss> Is there anything else than just this? https://tinyurl.com/yg47jr45
L1138[18:56:14] <vet​boss> Like an browser?
L1139[18:56:18] <vet​boss> Or apps?
L1140[18:56:35] <Ocawes​ome101> there's UWM, which has a couple basic GUI apps, but no not much
L1141[18:56:46] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm working on a more advanced windowing system but it'll take a while
L1142[18:57:26] <vet​boss> Ok can I get to see the GUI apps?
L1143[18:57:38] <Ocawes​ome101> run `upm install uwm`
L1144[18:57:55] <vet​boss> Should I remove some stuff tho?
L1145[18:57:58] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L1146[18:58:11] <vet​boss> ok so keep the yellow card in?
L1147[18:58:22] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah
L1148[18:58:27] <vet​boss> ok
L1149[18:59:10] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yekzp2jg
L1150[18:59:15] <Ocawes​ome101> now run `uwm`
L1151[18:59:20] <vet​boss> ok
L1152[18:59:45] <vet​boss> What dose this do?
L1153[18:59:53] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ydk8nk3r
L1154[19:00:20] <Ocawes​ome101> it manages windows
L1155[19:00:24] <vet​boss> Ok.
L1156[19:00:34] <Forec​aster> what if I want to manage linux?
L1157[19:00:38] <vet​boss> lol
L1158[19:00:42] <Ocawes​ome101> smh
L1159[19:01:25] <vet​boss> What if I want to add mb to the hard drive?
L1160[19:01:37] <vet​boss> Stuck on this https://tinyurl.com/ygjxx9zk
L1161[19:02:51] <Ocawes​ome101> which option did you select?
L1162[19:03:05] <vet​boss> settings
L1163[19:03:09] <Ocawes​ome101> hmm
L1164[19:03:33] <Ocawes​ome101> works for me, try again
L1165[19:03:42] <Ocawes​ome101> OH!
L1166[19:03:44] <Ocawes​ome101> wait
L1167[19:03:45] <vet​boss> It won't let me do anything now
L1168[19:04:00] <Ocawes​ome101> you're not using new enough OpenComputers for UWM to work properly
L1169[19:04:20] <vet​boss> What do I do?
L1170[19:04:26] <vet​boss> Can't do anything
L1171[19:04:29] <Ocawes​ome101> download a newer build from https://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-MC1.12.2
L1172[19:04:39] <Ocawes​ome101> restart the computer with the power button
L1173[19:04:59] <vet​boss> That link gets me to an page not found
L1174[19:05:07] <vet​boss> ok
L1175[19:05:26] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ye4yf439
L1176[19:05:37] <Ocawes​ome101> download a newer build from https://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-MC1.12 [Edited]
L1177[19:05:40] <Ocawes​ome101> try now
L1178[19:05:49] <vet​boss> Ok
L1179[19:05:55] <vet​boss> Works
L1180[19:05:58] <Ocawes​ome101> specifically you want https://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-MC1.12/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/libs/OpenComputers-MC1.12.2-1.7.5.217.jar
L1181[19:06:00] <vet​boss> now what?
L1182[19:06:07] <vet​boss> Ok
L1183[19:06:29] <vet​boss> So what do I do with the old one I have on the mods folder?
L1184[19:06:43] <vet​boss> Won't everything be deleted if I remove it?
L1185[19:07:40] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L1186[19:07:45] <vet​boss> Ok
L1187[19:07:49] <Ocawes​ome101> all you're doing is upgrading opencomputers
L1188[19:07:51] <vet​boss> What do I do then?
L1189[19:08:00] <Ocawes​ome101> then just relaunch minecraft
L1190[19:08:14] <Ocawes​ome101> (after you've swapped the OpenComputers files, of course!)
L1191[19:08:20] <vet​boss> Delete the old one?
L1192[19:08:53] <vet​boss> The one not selected is the old one https://tinyurl.com/ygftfa2r
L1193[19:09:04] <Ocawes​ome101> yes delete the old one
L1194[19:09:14] <vet​boss> ok
L1195[19:09:35] <vet​boss> You sure deleting the old one won't remove the stuff placed?
L1196[19:09:38] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L1197[19:09:42] <vet​boss> ok
L1198[19:09:48] <Ocawes​ome101> that's in the save file, not the mod file
L1199[19:10:04] <vet​boss> What if I do this in a multiplayer server?
L1200[19:10:27] <vet​boss> Will the same happen there to?
L1201[19:11:58] <vet​boss> Now there is no other accounts I have on the PC
L1202[19:12:24] <Ocawes​ome101> it requires the server owner to upgrade it if you do it on a server
L1203[19:12:32] <vet​boss> Ok
L1204[19:12:51] <vet​boss> Well how do I add back the account I deleted the password to?
L1205[19:13:05] <Ocawes​ome101> you already did
L1206[19:13:07] <Ocawes​ome101> lowercase `v`
L1207[19:13:19] <Ocawes​ome101> usernames are case-sensitive and conventionally lowercase
L1208[19:13:30] <vet​boss> ok.
L1209[19:13:49] <vet​boss> So mine is vetboss?
L1210[19:15:08] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ygnautzk
L1211[19:15:33] <vet​boss> I typed a password I remembered
L1212[19:15:40] <vet​boss> Did it not save?
L1213[19:17:26] <Ocawes​ome101> huh
L1214[19:17:27] <Ocawes​ome101> oh
L1215[19:17:32] <Ocawes​ome101> it didn't
L1216[19:17:42] <vet​boss> Ok
L1217[19:17:45] <Ocawes​ome101> it only saves when you shut down with `shutdown -p`
L1218[19:18:07] <vet​boss> Ok
L1219[19:18:17] <Ocawes​ome101> so, run `passwd vetboss --enable=sudo,mount,hwinfo,hostname` again
L1220[19:18:25] <Ocawes​ome101> then run `shutdown -r` and it'll reboot
L1221[19:18:44] <vet​boss> So first login to root? https://tinyurl.com/yh2fmtq3
L1222[19:18:54] <vet​boss> then the shutdown p
L1223[19:19:03] <Ocawes​ome101> nono
L1224[19:19:06] <vet​boss> ok.
L1225[19:19:09] <Ocawes​ome101> then the passwd command
L1226[19:19:14] <Ocawes​ome101> then the shutdown
L1227[19:19:27] <vet​boss> Well I have not typed the shutdown -p
L1228[19:19:39] <vet​boss> Because I had to login first
L1229[19:20:42] <vet​boss> this then reboot? https://tinyurl.com/ydssm4e5
L1230[19:21:33] <vet​boss> If this is the wrong way then idk why you said shutdown -p first
L1231[19:24:14] <vet​boss> You there?
L1232[19:24:26] <Ocawes​ome101> i am in fact here
L1233[19:24:30] <Ocawes​ome101> do not do that
L1234[19:24:36] <vet​boss> Ok
L1235[19:24:39] <Ocawes​ome101> >Ocawes​ome101: so, run `passwd vetboss --enable=sudo,mount,h…
L1236[19:24:39] <Ocawes​ome101> do this
L1237[19:24:41] <vet​boss> What do I do then?
L1238[19:24:47] <Ocawes​ome101> >Ocawes​ome101: then run `shutdown -r` and it'll reboot
L1239[19:24:47] <Ocawes​ome101> then do this
L1240[19:24:59] <vet​boss> >Ocawes​ome101: it only saves when you shut down with `s…
L1241[19:24:59] <vet​boss> Ok well you said this while I was in login still
L1242[19:25:43] <Ocawes​ome101> that was not meant to tell you to run `shutdown -p` right then, it was meant to inform you that user account changes only are saved when you use the `shutdown` command to turn off the computer
L1243[19:26:03] <vet​boss> ok
L1244[19:26:46] <vet​boss> Not all in caps?
L1245[19:26:49] <! Sk​yzey> hi , i'm new to Oc and i was wandering if a money system is possible with this mod , like having a bank and credit cards , etc ...
L1246[19:27:02] <Ocawes​ome101> it's possible, but not simple
L1247[19:27:09] <Ocawes​ome101> @vetboss lowercase is fine
L1248[19:27:13] <vet​boss> Ok
L1249[19:27:31] <vet​boss> Ok now?
L1250[19:27:42] <vet​boss> Shutdown -r?
L1251[19:28:40] <vet​boss> ? https://tinyurl.com/yevlep36
L1252[19:28:46] <Mic​hiyo> >! Sk​yzey: hi , i'm new to Oc and i was wandering i…
L1253[19:28:46] <Mic​hiyo> Open Security adds mag cards, mag readers/writers and keypads... might make that easier. Though you'll have to write all of the interfacing code yourself, it provides none.
L1254[19:28:55] <Ocawes​ome101> yes @vetboss
L1255[19:28:57] <vet​boss> ok
L1256[19:29:27] <vet​boss> Ayy https://tinyurl.com/yzh84p46
L1257[19:29:45] <Ocawes​ome101> good
L1258[19:29:50] <Ocawes​ome101> now if you run `uwm` it should worm
L1259[19:29:52] <Ocawes​ome101> now if you run `uwm` it should work [Edited]
L1260[19:29:58] <! Sk​yzey> >Mic​hiyo: Open Security adds mag cards, mag readers…
L1261[19:29:59] <! Sk​yzey> nice i'll go check that ,thanks
L1262[19:30:06] <vet​boss> Ok
L1263[19:30:20] <vet​boss> it dose
L1264[19:30:27] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yg8l44ja
L1265[19:30:33] <vet​boss> How do I change it!
L1266[19:30:38] <Mic​hiyo> >! Sk​yzey: nice i'll go check that ,thanks
L1267[19:30:38] <Mic​hiyo> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/opensecurity
L1268[19:30:50] <Ocawes​ome101> @vetboss click the numbers, they're input boxes
L1269[19:30:50] <vet​boss> Just type random numbers?
L1270[19:30:55] <vet​boss> Ok cool
L1271[19:30:58] <Ocawes​ome101> and they're hex colors
L1272[19:31:04] <Ocawes​ome101> (well, numbers)
L1273[19:31:10] <vet​boss> yea
L1274[19:31:33] <vet​boss> I can move terminals and make one
L1275[19:31:46] <Ocawes​ome101> yep, and if you click the `Close` text on them they should close
L1276[19:31:52] <vet​boss> What should the color be?
L1277[19:32:05] <Ocawes​ome101> whatever you want
L1278[19:32:08] <vet​boss> What do you recommend for the eyes
L1279[19:32:17] <Ocawes​ome101> i don't use uwm much
L1280[19:32:27] <Ocawes​ome101> it was mostly a thing i wrote to see if i could
L1281[19:32:34] <vet​boss> Cool
L1282[19:32:42] <vet​boss> You can have multiple stuff open at once
L1283[19:32:48] <Ocawes​ome101> yep
L1284[19:32:53] <vet​boss> nice you're good at coding bro.
L1285[19:33:09] <vet​boss> How minecraft can handle this in a i5 card is cool
L1286[19:33:15] <Ocawes​ome101> i've been programming for... a long time
L1287[19:33:20] <Ocawes​ome101> modern i5s are pretty good
L1288[19:33:20] <vet​boss> I can see
L1289[19:33:26] <vet​boss> Yea
L1290[19:34:20] <vet​boss> cool https://tinyurl.com/yh48pc6a
L1291[19:34:33] <vet​boss> Can't wait to show my friends lol
L1292[19:36:11] <vet​boss> Is there any other commands?
L1293[19:36:13] <vet​boss> Like help?
L1294[19:36:59] <Ocawes​ome101> run `ls /bin` to see them all
L1295[19:37:19] <vet​boss> ok
L1296[19:37:23] <Ocawes​ome101> you can run `man COMMAND` (substitude `COMMAND` for the name of a command) to get some information in it
L1297[19:37:44] <vet​boss> ok
L1298[19:46:17] <Amanda> rather busy channel today
L1299[19:46:59] <Ocawes​ome101> indeed
L1300[19:47:40] <Amanda> %choose factory or halucinate more
L1301[19:47:41] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: My grandfather always told me that "halucinate more" is the way to go!
L1302[19:55:02] <vet​boss> I have made a new pc now witch I want to test the irc what do I do?
L1303[20:06:12] <Izaya> you'll need the irc loot disk or to install it via oppm
L1304[20:06:25] <Izaya> (assuming you got OpenOS working, I haven't been paying attention)
L1305[20:06:41] <Ocawes​ome101> they did
L1306[20:07:40] <vet​boss> Yea I did but I also started a new pc to play around with to install irc to test that out
L1307[20:07:47] <vet​boss> but how do I do that?
L1308[20:09:48] <Izaya> either install it from the loot disk or via oppm
L1309[20:09:51] <Izaya> then run it
L1310[20:10:06] <vet​boss> Ok
L1311[20:26:03] <vet​boss> How do I run it?
L1312[20:26:54] <Izaya> irc
L1313[20:27:00] <vet​boss> ye
L1314[20:27:07] <Izaya> ye
L1315[20:28:10] <vet​boss> Ok
L1316[20:29:07] <vet​boss> It is installed now! https://tinyurl.com/ydkany2d
L1317[20:29:24] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/ydsmzkhs
L1318[20:31:50] <vet​boss> restarted the pc and tried again and this is what came up after I did all that https://tinyurl.com/ydjsnc8b
L1319[20:32:54] <Izaya> looks like you installed it to another drive
L1320[20:33:01] <vet​boss> Hm
L1321[20:33:21] <vet​boss> What then?
L1322[20:33:39] <Izaya> install it to your / instead
L1323[20:33:49] <vet​boss> Ok
L1324[20:34:05] <vet​boss> So install it to the main operating disk?
L1325[20:34:50] <Izaya> only if you want to install it :)
L1326[20:35:10] <vet​boss> Ok
L1327[20:35:15] <vet​boss> Then restart
L1328[20:35:27] <Izaya> not necessary
L1329[20:35:33] <vet​boss> Ok
L1330[20:35:57] <vet​boss> What is the server that you guys go into to use it?
L1331[20:36:12] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yg7xjg7h
L1332[20:36:36] <Izaya> this is #oc on irc.esper.net
L1333[20:36:41] <Izaya> but that's the default network and channel
L1334[20:36:52] <vet​boss> Ok so what do I type?
L1335[20:37:49] <vet​boss> What is the port?
L1336[20:38:07] <Izaya> irc <nick>
L1337[20:38:18] <vet​boss> Ok
L1338[20:38:32] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yzssrnpt
L1339[20:38:35] <Izaya> [] around arguments means they're optional
L1340[20:39:07] <vet​boss> Ok what do I do now?
L1341[20:39:56] <Izaya> you put in irc <nick> and hit enter and then you should end up here
L1342[20:40:23] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yzzpv4zw
L1343[20:40:31] <vet​boss> um
L1344[20:40:50] <Izaya> where did you end up lmao
L1345[20:40:58] <Izaya> also could you stop cropping your screenshots
L1346[20:41:00] <Izaya> it's infuriating
L1347[20:41:10] <vet​boss> ok
L1348[20:41:24] <vet​boss> I typed in irc.esper.net
L1349[20:41:40] <vet​boss> So irc vetboss irc.esper.net
L1350[20:42:20] <Izaya> oh okay esper just only shows the one server
L1351[20:42:23] <Izaya> weird
L1352[20:42:29] <Izaya> anyway yeah you should be able to /join #oc now
L1353[20:42:36] <vet​boss> What do I do now?
L1354[20:42:56] <vet​boss> It says I can /join
L1355[20:43:27] <vet​boss> Is there a way to get a code to this servers code?
L1356[20:43:38] <Izaya> yes, it's irc.esper.net #oc
L1357[20:43:52] <vet​boss> ok
L1358[20:44:12] <Izaya> ircs://irc.esper.net/#oc if you want a URI, though I may have that format wrong
L1359[20:44:22] <vet​boss> Ok
L1360[20:45:06] ⇨ Joins: vetboss (~vetboss@50.79-160-184.customer.lyse.net)
L1361[20:45:13] <Izaya> greetings
L1362[20:45:15] <vetboss> hey
L1363[20:45:19] <vet​boss> It worked
L1364[20:45:45] <vetboss> Yay
L1365[20:46:05] <Izaya> congratulations, you've now entered the rabbit hole
L1366[20:46:13] <vetboss> lol
L1367[20:46:25] <Ko​dos> o/
L1368[20:47:28] <vetboss> So I can play Minecraft and chat here!
L1369[20:47:46] <vetboss> Cool
L1370[20:47:53] <Izaya> man, just wait till you discover there are proper IRC clients
L1371[20:48:06] <vetboss> What!
L1372[20:48:25] <vetboss> Oh man this mod is so awesome!
L1373[20:48:44] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/aYZYNfcQ2U40Q32f/Screenshot_2021-09-14_06-48-26.png
L1374[20:48:46] <vetboss> Can't imagine how hard it was to code all this!
L1375[20:48:54] <Ko​dos> Yeah man. ~~instant reply~~ chat is cool as hell
L1376[20:49:06] <vetboss> Yea
L1377[20:49:22] <vetboss> How did you get that cool cayout
L1378[20:49:28] <vetboss> layout*
L1379[20:49:42] <CompanionCube> mine's cooler.
L1380[20:49:44] <Ko​dos> That’s weechat
L1381[20:49:47] <Izaya> uuuuuh I set up weechat years ago I can't remember
L1382[20:49:57] <vetboss> Ok
L1383[20:49:58] <CompanionCube> Izaya: i yoinked mine from someone else's lol
L1384[20:50:10] <vetboss> lol
L1385[20:50:23] <CompanionCube> comes with a fancy highlight monitor and next to it a feed of all channels :p
L1386[20:50:29] <vetboss> Could you probably send me the thing you made if you find it?
L1387[20:50:54] <Izaya> CompanionCube: I have a script that sends pings to my XMPP account set up in ZNC
L1388[20:50:55] <vetboss> Or you copied
L1389[20:51:07] <vetboss> Oh cool
L1390[20:51:16] <CompanionCube> weechat isn't an OC program, so it's probably not useful by itself
L1391[20:51:24] <vetboss> But do you still have to setup guide?
L1392[20:51:30] <CompanionCube> Izaya: also
L1393[20:51:33] <CompanionCube> >no fancy nick colours
L1394[20:51:36] <CompanionCube> shame
L1395[20:51:41] <Izaya> fancy?
L1396[20:51:42] <vetboss> Oof
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L1398[20:51:50] <vetboss> Yea
L1399[20:52:02] <CompanionCube> Izaya: mine are coloured in the userlist as well, strangely *not the same* colours though...
L1400[20:52:10] <Izaya> it may horrify you to know that I set my terminals to the VGA colour scheme
L1401[20:52:20] <CompanionCube> oh god why
L1402[20:52:24] <vetboss> Ohh
L1403[20:52:38] <Izaya> they're very distinct on mediocre colour monitors
L1404[20:53:01] <Izaya> the nicer colour schemes are lower contrast, y'know?
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L1406[20:53:15] <CompanionCube> also terminology image previews are very nice with weechat
L1407[20:53:18] <vetboss> I wish you knew how to get the thing you got
L1408[20:53:20] <vetboss> still
L1409[20:53:39] <Izaya> I mean the name of the program has been mentioned multiple times
L1410[20:53:42] <Izaya> it's quite popular
L1411[20:53:50] <vetboss> If you find out how to setup weechat again can you show me?
L1412[20:53:52] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/samis/dotfiles-weechat
L1413[20:53:54] <Izaya> there's also hexchat and uhhhhhhhh
L1414[20:53:59] <Izaya> irssi!
L1415[20:54:07] <vet​boss> Is that it?
L1416[20:54:24] <CompanionCube> if you can crack AES (lol no) you get bonus IRC passwords :p
L1417[20:54:57] <vet​boss> Is there a line to send it to the openpc on minecraft to download the weechat?
L1418[20:55:14] <Izaya> it doesn't run on OpenComputers my dude
L1419[20:55:17] <CompanionCube> weechat is not for OC, it's for your actual computer
L1420[20:55:25] <vet​boss> Oh.
L1421[20:55:36] <vet​boss> How do I set it up?
L1422[20:55:40] <Izaya> I suspect you're the only person here actually using OpenComputers right now
L1423[20:55:48] <vet​boss> lol
L1424[20:55:57] <vet​boss> How do I set it up tho?
L1425[20:55:59] <Izaya> Kodos: how goes your cursed stuff?
L1426[20:56:06] <CompanionCube> what OS are you running
L1427[20:56:13] <vet​boss> Windows
L1428[20:56:19] <CompanionCube> which Windows?
L1429[20:56:22] <vet​boss> 10
L1430[20:56:29] <Izaya> here you go https://weechat.org/doc/
L1431[20:56:36] <vet​boss> ok
L1432[20:56:48] <vet​boss> Where do I press?
L1433[20:56:59] <Izaya> have you considered reading the page
L1434[20:57:09] <vet​boss> https://tinyurl.com/yft7wdyh
L1435[20:57:13] <vet​boss> Witch one?
L1436[20:57:24] <Va​ur> any of those 3
L1437[20:57:28] <vet​boss> ok
L1438[20:57:29] <CompanionCube> does weechat even compile on vanilla windows
L1439[20:57:32] <CompanionCube> or do you need WSL?
L1440[20:57:39] <Izaya> which*
L1441[20:57:49] <Amanda> Cygwin last I tried
L1442[20:57:52] <Amanda> in the late '00s
L1443[20:57:54] <vet​boss> Ok well I have it now what do I open?
L1444[20:58:01] <Izaya> speaking of windows, https://pl.kotobank.ch/media/c5d906c2610fe0cf8cce28654dd4b4ddd5c3f5910fe131356f996a05f32412c3.jpg
L1445[20:58:21] <vet​boss> XD
L1446[20:58:55] <Amanda> Elfi, tell the birbs that my back porch isn't where they should all be building their nests.
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L1448[20:59:19] <vet​boss> Oof
L1449[20:59:21] <CompanionCube> wouldn't it maybe be easier to just follow a guide on WSL and install it from whichever linux you install
L1450[20:59:26] <vet​boss> I got disconnected
L1451[20:59:53] <vet​boss> maybe
L1452[21:00:11] <vet​boss> I am gonna install it on my windows 10 dude
L1453[21:00:23] <CompanionCube> ubuntu is the usual initial recommendation, no?
L1454[21:00:35] <vet​boss> Ok.
L1455[21:01:04] <vet​boss> I'll do this tomorrow rn I gtg to bet it's almost 1 am here in Norway
L1456[21:01:36] <Izaya> https://weeaboo.space/media/8ba0414b18a70f9aa985f057b63d9403293a4d7cbaf081152e5bef73804541a7.png
L1457[21:01:48] <vet​boss> lol
L1458[21:02:11] <CompanionCube> Izaya: https://64.media.tumblr.com/bb8dc1a72ed6ef319461e5c211efacea/410f590441481d07-33/s1280x1920/0c378f769938fa8f7a915092c31ecc52e9628aec.jpg
L1459[21:04:49] <vet​boss> Cya later guys
L1460[21:05:16] <Izaya> o/
L1461[21:06:58] <CompanionCube> o/
L1462[21:10:42] <Z0id​berg> might as well say that computers are made out of glass
L1463[21:11:54] <Ocawes​ome101> That’s why they break so easily
L1464[21:23:45] <Amanda> > 178 compiler errors
L1465[21:24:02] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/wPoeZzKoYFRttIFboPGYrnYn/tenor_gif1898116773218779448.gif
L1466[21:25:21] <Amanda> I'm pretty sure I got over a thousand once by poorly using a boost library in C++
L1467[21:28:21] <Mic​hiyo> C is a letter, not a language, and + is for MATH!
L1468[21:55:38] <dequbed> "I'm writing a recursive method with threads to optimize the CPU usage in a 0.02%" *is* a nonsensical statement however :P
L1469[21:56:54] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L1470[21:56:55] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 12 hours, 33 minutes and 11 seconds (By 1 hour, 16 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1471[21:56:56] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.013 tonk points! plus 0.024 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.79776204, Position #2 Need 0.12993866 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L1472[22:11:40] <Amanda> Yeah, clearly you'd use a byzian filter for that, right dequbed? :P
L1473[22:13:43] <s_​a_m> > I'm pretty sure I got over a thousand once by poorly using a boost library in C++
L1474[22:13:52] <s_​a_m> Amanda: That's how boost do be
L1475[22:14:02] <s_​a_m> it also adds 300MiB to your binaries
L1476[22:15:48] <s_​a_m> and an hour to your compile time
L1477[22:15:52] <s_​a_m> boost: not even once
L1478[22:45:20] <CompanionCube> Skye: Izaya: https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1437450308691632135
L1479[22:45:20] <MichiBot> Mon Sep 13 16:17:14 UTC 2021 @JolyonMaugham: This might be the first time I've ever heard Michael Gove speak with genuine conviction. <https://t.co/4tyuNmpSwz&gt;
L1480[22:45:29] <CompanionCube> %inv add michael gove
L1481[22:45:30] * MichiBot summons 'michael gove' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L1482[22:45:36] <CompanionCube> %loot
L1483[22:45:37] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube: You get a loot box! It contains a very stale piece of pizza. (Junk)
L1484[22:59:05] ⇨ Joins: phrog (~phrog@88.230.186.5)
L1485[22:59:20] <phrog> ...
L1486[22:59:59] <phrog> had no idea this chat was alive
L1487[23:08:00] <Amanda> was truely roaring along today
L1488[23:08:20] ⇦ Quits: phrog (~phrog@88.230.186.5) (Quit: phrog)
L1489[23:27:27] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-217-230.dynamic.as20676.net) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L1490[23:43:33] <Amanda> %give MichiBot a ruby necklace
L1491[23:43:33] * MichiBot accepts the ruby necklace and adds it to her inventory
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